Strip Club Reports

Where is this and is it like a club you're describing? I'd like to try it out.

[QUOTE=Ill187;6038488]Other day seen Some reports on the massage parlor side about.

Dominican spa in Marietta in a Cardi B look alike well I was sold at Dominican.

I had to see for myself was riding around Friday kind of bored about 6 PM or so and decided to go check it out.

Unfortunately no luck seem to be close by the way it looked more like a barbershop not Dominican spa.

I have to check that out again seems like a weird set up though o well no luck here Decided to go to wax pulled up about 6:37 PM.

I've been seeing a lot of talk of Latina's there Which is what I am interested in comparing the name Cubana.

If I'm sayin that right Well I didn't know what she look like but I figured I'd be able to find out once I got there walked in the place was pretty calm but 20 girls were so still kind of early scene to Latina sitting down as soon as I walked in one really tall one and I'm not sure the one turned out later that at all when was Cubana.

Tall kinda of goofy looking if you ask me big ass but she really wasn't my style to be honest Her short friend not sure her name caught my eye way more so I'm playing a little bit of pool about two drinks in Bus and everybody's ass in the pool table like I do always haha.

Anyway remember I had caught eye contact with her when we first walked in there were literally the first two girls that I saw so playing pool and she walks around right towards me hola papi Cubana was still sitting in the corner alone watching her friend work I guess LOL.

She asked me if I wanted to dance I told her you just let me finish my pool game and I'll come and get with you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Parkway91;6039069]Vivide / Vlive is good from 12 pm 6 pm and maybe as late as 8 pm. If you see other posts there are more strippers than customers and 90% latina of all varieties. I had to see it for my own eyes to believe it. After 8 pm it's all AA. I like AA women but have latina are my favorite. It's hard for me to get out early as well. I used to go to Tattletales in my earlier years but I haven't been. I will probably reconn that one soon.[/QUOTE]That's what I will try this Saturday afternoon, start off with V; stay if its great or bounce to Tattletale if its bad. Then maybe Sunday night try Tattletale again.

[QUOTE=HeywoodDJ;6039788]That's what I will try this Saturday afternoon, start off with V; stay if its great or bounce to Tattletale if its bad. Then maybe Sunday night try Tattletale again.[/QUOTE]That was kind of my plan last Saturday. I lasted 2 hours at V and only left because I was down to a few dollars in my wallet. The girls stay in packs together and they are good at getting money fast. You will have a dance with one girl and next thing you know there will be 6 or 7 at your couch area waiting their turn.

[QUOTE=Parkway91;6040064]That was kind of my plan last Saturday. I lasted 2 hours at V and only left because I was down to a few dollars in my wallet. The girls stay in packs together and they are good at getting money fast. You will have a dance with one girl and next thing you know there will be 6 or 7 at your couch area waiting their turn.[/QUOTE]How was the talent? Hot and offering extras? Sounds good to have all that attention, as I want to sample a few dances before committing to 1 favorite girl in the VIP.

[QUOTE=HeywoodDJ;6040343]How was the talent? Hot and offering extras? Sounds good to have all that attention, as I want to sample a few dances before committing to 1 favorite girl in the VIP.[/QUOTE]The talent is outstanding if you like Latinas (12 pm-8 pm only). Every kind you can dream of. I guess on the downside the vibe I got is most of them seem to know they are hot or give off that vibe. There wasn't a lot of extra charm outside of the dance and most of the conversation outside of the dance was "you want VIP?" The communication is hard unless you are fluent in Spanish. I try to keep it between 2 and 3 bills so that kind of restricted me to 2 hours. It was my first time and VIP prices were quoted as 250. I came back here to get some more intel on that quote and it seems about average. The 7 that corraled around me were all Cuban; so they kind of stick together in packs and when they see blood (money) they swarm. As I also said the non-Latinas will hit you pretty hard too right off because they know a lot of guys (like me) are there for the hot Latinas. They seem to know once the Latinas have their hook in you they are pretty much out of the picture. I guess I could have played my cards better, but it was a little overwhelming and before I knew it I had hit my daily limit.

[QUOTE=Parkway91;6041004]The talent is outstanding if you like Latinas (12 pm-8 pm only). Every kind you can dream of. I guess on the downside the vibe I got is most of them seem to know they are hot or give off that vibe. There wasn't a lot of extra charm outside of the dance and most of the conversation outside of the dance was "you want VIP?" The communication is hard unless you are fluent in Spanish. I try to keep it between 2 and 3 bills so that kind of restricted me to 2 hours. It was my first time and VIP prices were quoted as 250. I came back here to get some more intel on that quote and it seems about average. The 7 that corraled around me were all Cuban; so they kind of stick together in packs and when they see blood (money) they swarm. As I also said the non-Latinas will hit you pretty hard too right off because they know a lot of guys (like me) are there for the hot Latinas. They seem to know once the Latinas have their hook in you they are pretty much out of the picture. I guess I could have played my cards better, but it was a little overwhelming and before I knew it I had hit my daily limit.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the Intel! Sounds like a challenge, I know little Spanish but will practice phrases before. I'll try to not get fleeced but likely just go with my gut on a favorite girl. I think I'll checkout Tattletale Fri night and V sat afternoon. Will report.

[QUOTE=HeywoodDJ;6041451]Thank you for the Intel! Sounds like a challenge, I know little Spanish but will practice phrases before. I'll try to not get fleeced but likely just go with my gut on a favorite girl. I think I'll checkout Tattletale Fri night and V sat afternoon. Will report.[/QUOTE]Went to Tattletales Thurs night. Made my first trip thanks to suggestion. Didn't feel like waiting. Got there about 11 pm, stayed till 1 am. I liked the place, wasn't intimidating as a first timer and it wasn't packed. About 1:1 ratio of patrons to girls. But some guys weren't trying to get much action and it seemed most girls were preoccupied with chatting up regulars or talking to themselves. I only got approached by 4 girls the whole night, don't know it was due to me or the girls / regulars. It was all Latina and white girls, 20's-30's, an even ratio of below avg, avg, and hot. Even though I was looking for Latina / white, at least half I was not interested in even though others still wanted them. Valet was 10 plus tip, cover 20, floor dances 20, VIP I'll say later. It's not a big place, which was fine because I didn't want to be overwhelmed, and maybe 60% capacity. Staff was nice to me, I tipped a little more for first impression. Clientele was mix of 40-60's white guy regulars, some looked like retired bankers / lawyers. Rest were solo dudes like me taking in the floor. I liked the chill vibe despite feeling a little ignored from most girls.

Notable girls, of the white chicks there were maybe 4-5 that were stunning fit bodies, 20's, enhanced and natural. 2-3 of them I was really thirsty for, but I was neglected or maybe I wasnt seek attention well. Latinas on the whole were better looking. Of the talent I had, there was a cute young thick blonde girl who later on I regretted not trying out. She had an avg friend, I passed on. One Latina warmed me up, grinded me on the floor but nothing wild. She suggested another Latina, who was a little hotter, enthusiastic. Her floor dance I got a hint of her VIP potential, handsy over the pants, tits in face; way better attention I got from anyone else. Before I took her up on VIP, there were 2 blondes I really wanted. One all natural miss America look, the other built like a pornstar but I was talking forever with a regular and the other drifted further away. So I said, f it, let's break the ice and found the Latina. English wasn't great, my Spanish is bad so I couldn't recon well. $300 for 30 min, full touching, a few min into got the offer for CBJ and shortly after exchange upsold to CF&S for $250, able to talk down by $30 because I couldn't get more cash, so in end $220 for the extras. I likely could've haggled better, just new at this. She bounced quick at the end as the place was closing, I forgot to get numbers. I plan on going back maybe tonight, definitely to see another night of talent selection, find those 2-3 blondes and see if they do VIP extras, try to see if I can get that Latina # for OTC, and just build on the experience as well as get more attention as a regular. The screener floor dance was definitely key, the booths got more attention but I don't think it's necessary as I care about is VIP and I should be able to recon well enough from the floor. Hopefully this helps, because of it being 20 min closer and easy, I'm going to hold off Vivivde unless it has the same hot Latina / white scene.

Has anyone been to blaze recently? I went the other week and didn't see ny. Asked a few people and they didn't know her. She got some of the best do dances around and from what I saw the other week at blaze, the other dancers weren't down for that.

[QUOTE=HeywoodDJ;6042604]Went to Tattletales Thurs night. Made my first trip thanks to suggestion. Didn't feel like waiting. Got there about 11 pm, stayed till 1 am. I liked the place, wasn't intimidating as a first timer and it wasn't packed. About 1:1 ratio of patrons to girls. But some guys weren't trying to get much action and it seemed most girls were preoccupied with chatting up regulars or talking to themselves. I only got approached by 4 girls the whole night, don't know it was due to me or the girls / regulars. It was all Latina and white girls, 20's-30's, an even ratio of below avg, avg, and hot. Even though I was looking for Latina / white, at least half I was not interested in even though others still wanted them. Valet was 10 plus tip, cover 20, floor dances 20, VIP I'll say later. It's not a big place, which was fine because I didn't want to be overwhelmed, and maybe 60% capacity. Staff was nice to me, I tipped a little more for first impression. Clientele was mix of 40-60's white guy regulars, some looked like retired bankers / lawyers. Rest were solo dudes like me taking in the floor. I liked the chill vibe despite feeling a little ignored from most girls.

Notable girls, of the white chicks there were maybe 4-5 that were stunning fit bodies, 20's, enhanced and natural. 2-3 of them I was really thirsty for, but I was neglected or maybe I wasnt seek attention well. Latinas on the whole were better looking. Of the talent I had, there was a cute young thick blonde girl who later on I regretted not trying out. She had an avg friend, I passed on. One Latina warmed me up, grinded me on the floor but nothing wild. She suggested another Latina, who was a little hotter, enthusiastic. Her floor dance I got a hint of her VIP potential, handsy over the pants, tits in face; way better attention I got from anyone else. Before I took her up on VIP, there were 2 blondes I really wanted. One all natural miss America look, the other built like a pornstar but I was talking forever with a regular and the other drifted further away. So I said, f it, let's break the ice and found the Latina. English wasn't great, my Spanish is bad so I couldn't recon well. $300 for 30 min, full touching, a few min into got the offer for CBJ and shortly after exchange upsold to CF&S for $250, able to talk down by $30 because I couldn't get more cash, so in end $220 for the extras. I likely could've haggled better, just new at this. She bounced quick at the end as the place was closing, I forgot to get numbers. I plan on going back maybe tonight, definitely to see another night of talent selection, find those 2-3 blondes and see if they do VIP extras, try to see if I can get that Latina # for OTC, and just build on the experience as well as get more attention as a regular. The screener floor dance was definitely key, the booths got more attention but I don't think it's necessary as I care about is VIP and I should be able to recon well enough from the floor. Hopefully this helps, because of it being 20 min closer and easy, I'm going to hold off Vivivde unless it has the same hot Latina / white scene.[/QUOTE]TT was pretty solid back in the day (early 00's) and sounds like it still is. It sounds like it has benefited from the closure of the clubs of other municipalities.

[QUOTE=ThatDude504;6042946]Has anyone been to blaze recently? I went the other week and didn't see ny. Asked a few people and they didn't know her. She got some of the best do dances around and from what I saw the other week at blaze, the other dancers weren't down for that.[/QUOTE]I went on Wednesday and didn't see her but chatted with a few other girls that I normally dance. They confirmed what that other poster here said a page or two back that the staff at blaze is starting to tighten up on do dances. Better off wearing something with good feel quality than banking on that.

Decided to hit Tattletales tonight. Used to go there back in the early 00's. Got there around 9 pm. 5 to park at exit and 20 at the door. The place was just getting warmed up. Sit at the bar and you can scope it out. Talked to some regulars. Lot of girls come in at 10. Got a few dances from this older Filipino; very warm and friendly. After this I scoped out this tall then Latina w / nice curves; all natural, super hot Colombian. Got a few dances and offers for VIP. Later, this guy points out these bleach blondes are Cubanas so I had to get some dances from them. More VIP push. It's 300 for a half hour. So back to the Colombian; decide to do VIP; HH. She was just too hot - 10 in my book. Evidently this is kind of a turn-off and they want 1 hour for 600. I go back for the VIP and there's more upsell for extra "dances" and I just staid w / standard dances for regular VIP fee. Let's extra dances in VIP would have been 400 more. Great club w / a lot of laid back regulars to chat with and get intel. If you want to do VIP here be ready to deliver like a high roller.

[QUOTE=JoggingPants;6043451]I went on Wednesday and didn't see her but chatted with a few other girls that I normally dance. They confirmed what that other poster here said a page or two back that the staff at blaze is starting to tighten up on do dances. Better off wearing something with good feel quality than banking on that.[/QUOTE]NY was there yesterday and I see her almost everytime I go but sometimes she just stays for a little while then leaves. I have known her since Pleaser's days.

[QUOTE=HomeRun17;6043963]NY was there yesterday and I see her almost everytime I go but sometimes she just stays for a little while then leaves. I have known her since Pleaser's days.[/QUOTE]Damn! I was contemplating going yesterday to see if I could find her but decided against it smh.

Really want to know what the fuss is about. It's not very popular here but I'm a huge bbl guy. Can't get enough of it. Tiny waist with some huge bowling balls behind gets me every time. The bigger and rounder the better. I don't like hard or with implants but otherwise I love it when I can see that ass from the front LOL.

My go to used to be Sable from Pinups. Did OTC with her multiple times. Sadly she moved back to NY earlier this year. I'll try for New York again this week.

If anyone knows any other ladies like this, please share.

[QUOTE=Parkway91;6043724]Decided to hit Tattletales tonight. Used to go there back in the early 00's. Got there around 9 pm. 5 to park at exit and 20 at the door. The place was just getting warmed up. Sit at the bar and you can scope it out. Talked to some regulars. Lot of girls come in at 10. Got a few dances from this older Filipino; very warm and friendly. After this I scoped out this tall then Latina w / nice curves; all natural, super hot Colombian. Got a few dances and offers for VIP. Later, this guy points out these bleach blondes are Cubanas so I had to get some dances from them. More VIP push. It's 300 for a half hour. So back to the Colombian; decide to do VIP; HH. She was just too hot - 10 in my book. Evidently this is kind of a turn-off and they want 1 hour for 600. I go back for the VIP and there's more upsell for extra "dances" and I just staid w / standard dances for regular VIP fee. Let's extra dances in VIP would have been 400 more. Great club w / a lot of laid back regulars to chat with and get intel. If you want to do VIP here be ready to deliver like a high roller.[/QUOTE]I was there too! Also saw those Latinas, did VIP with one Thurs and Fri. VIP 300 for 30. The first one did S&F and the second only allowed CBJ but for an additional 450, that's crazy. I declined for just regular VIP dance, but enjoyed it as she made for good conversation as she had perfect soft tits and ass to smother.

Looks like different cliques of girls. The Latinas, the athletic pole dancers, local girls. Other than the Latinas I really want to try for action with the white pornstar looking girls with the enhanced asses and tits. I may have to just gamble on the VIP and hope they are on the menu too.

TT right now is the only place I'm bothering to go right now, has a lot of potential.

[QUOTE=HeywoodDJ;6044065]I was there too! Also saw those Latinas, did VIP with one Thurs and Fri. VIP 300 for 30. The first one did S&F and the second only allowed CBJ but for an additional 450, that's crazy. I declined for just regular VIP dance, but enjoyed it as she made for good conversation as she had perfect soft tits and ass to smother.

Looks like different cliques of girls. The Latinas, the athletic pole dancers, local girls. Other than the Latinas I really want to try for action with the white pornstar looking girls with the enhanced asses and tits. I may have to just gamble on the VIP and hope they are on the menu too.

TT right now is the only place I'm bothering to go right now, has a lot of potential.[/QUOTE]TT is really good. It's a great place to hang out. The regulars are really cool and will give you the low down on the girls and the VIP options. Also some of the dancers will give you the low down on general info. The tall thin Colombian is really amazing. She has great sexy talk, amazing ass, long dark hair, natural tits, sexy lingerie, I could go on and on.

[QUOTE=Parkway91;6044175]TT is really good. It's a great place to hang out. The regulars are really cool and will give you the low down on the girls and the VIP options. Also some of the dancers will give you the low down on general info. The tall thin Colombian is really amazing. She has great sexy talk, amazing ass, long dark hair, natural tits, sexy lingerie, I could go on and on.[/QUOTE]Going for a third round of Tattletale after my 1st two experiences, goal is to be more proactive with approaching the specific girls I want the most for VIP by applying everyone's advice. Will post soon.

Arrived around 4:30. Parking lot was slammed as was inside the club. No question, the largest day shift crowd I have seen out of maybe 20 visits. Latinas everywhere, and taking up all my seating. Lot's of nice looking ones. Saw at least 2-3 in the 9 range but I come for the AA small framed or spinner types. AA quality was decent. A few white girls. Dancers outnumbered customers 2 to 1 (possibly more). You throw in a bunch of Mexican customers that are just there to watch and you have a whole bunch of ladies (some attractive ones as well) that never moved from the couch and did not dance in the 3 hours I was there.

So the ladies were hungry. Slim was on me before I could even order my bottle of water. As soon as I collected myself I started with her.

Went through 5 ladies and at least 30-35 dances. Mileage was strong with all but one lady. She happened to be about a 9 but as I quickly learned she had only been dancing for 1 week. Forgot the name but she was 20 YO and from DC. Slim build with all the right parts to go with a pretty face. 30 seconds in she turned to me and said your going to have to tell me what to do. So I faced her away from me, got both legs up on the couch, helped her lower her hands down to the table, rotated her butt up in the air, and got her spread apart. Excellent view but from this position she just didn't have the skills to balance, get any fingers in her vagina, or give Jr. Any attention. Went a couple songs with some weak dancing and told her to sit and talk. She said she had never done any dancing like this. When I told her my expectations she looked quite shocked. Told her this might not be her cup of tea but wished her well and paid her for her time.

Danced Karamel (spinner), KC (older lady from Gold Rush), and finished with Lyric from Club Diamond. Never seen a lady so excited to see me. Remembered my name and all my kinks and I only danced her for 4 songs about a month ago. Real sweet lady. Not the hustler type.

Anyway these ladies went from a 6 (KC) up to a 9. KC and Lyric both told me the exact same thing. Tell me what you want, how you want it, and I'll give it to you. They both went all out with the kissing, nipple pinching, FIV, grinding, rubbing Jr, massaging, etc. It would have been even better if I didn't have an angry Latin women 2 feet away watching all that was going on. Probably should have taken Lyric up to the balcony but (. 6 for as long as you need it) I was getting worn out and I had dinner plans and had to bounce around 7:30.

Had more than one lady tell me they were up for OTC.

I did miss on one tiny very dark AA spinner. Cute face, nice B / C cups and a lot of energy. She stayed busy for at least the last 2 hours I was there moving from couch to couch so she must really have some skills. Maybe next time.

As always, YMMV but on this day there was a boatload of good looking Latin women in need of a customer.

[QUOTE=JMAbacus;6044896]Arrived around 4:30. Parking lot was slammed as was inside the club. No question, the largest day shift crowd I have seen out of maybe 20 visits. Latinas everywhere, and taking up all my seating. Lot's of nice looking ones. Saw at least 2-3 in the 9 range but I come for the AA small framed or spinner types. AA quality was decent. A few white girls. Dancers outnumbered customers 2 to 1 (possibly more). You throw in a bunch of Mexican customers that are just there to watch and you have a whole bunch of ladies (some attractive ones as well) that never moved from the couch and did not dance in the 3 hours I was there.

So the ladies were hungry. Slim was on me before I could even order my bottle of water. As soon as I collected myself I started with her.

Went through 5 ladies and at least 30-35 dances. Mileage was strong with all but one lady. She happened to be about a 9 but as I quickly learned she had only been dancing for 1 week. Forgot the name but she was 20 YO and from DC. Slim build with all the right parts to go with a pretty face. 30 seconds in she turned to me and said your going to have to tell me what to do. So I faced her away from me, got both legs up on the couch, helped her lower her hands down to the table, rotated her butt up in the air, and got her spread apart. Excellent view but from this position she just didn't have the skills to balance, get any fingers in her vagina, or give Jr. Any attention. Went a couple songs with some weak dancing and told her to sit and talk. She said she had never done any dancing like this. When I told her my expectations she looked quite shocked. Told her this might not be her cup of tea but wished her well and paid her for her time.[/QUOTE]You always provide great reports, JM. Too bad I'm not into the strip club scene or we'd need to hook up. I love spinners and I don't care what color they are. Is takeout a reasonable option with these spinners?

Visited this club second time, completely different experience. Beautiful girls everywhere. One hot blonde Cuban offered VIP with entire package, but I didn't want to rush. Another girl from Kansas offered VIP for the same price with nothing extra. Lots of girls. I think this will become my favorite spot.

Went for my third night in a row to TT to close out my first run in ATL. Hopefully these help noobs like me.

The Bad: Overall Sat night was disappointing for what I hoped to do. After seeing girls arrive at 10 pm on Friday, I decided to show up at midnight to make sure the A team was ready. Place was 80% capacity, all floor tables full, most booths taken, and main bar was tight. Paths were mostly clear but I had to set up shop at a poor visibility spot at the bar, which would've been great if I already had girls to vet / dances more discreetly before VIP. Regulars were in full force, every girl was preoccupied with talking to regulars. To me, I thought what's the point why are these girls just hanging out & talking. I was confused, are the girls genuinely interested in conversation OR is it just part of the facade of companionship with the assumption of much money being dropped at the end of the night. Surely they'd rather score fast with me, right? Inexperience thoughts from me, I learned that in regulars come and spend thousands so its likely the long game. No ones impressed by my 2 VIP trips for 30 min. The lack of approachable options and busy ratio towards the end (4 guys: 1 girl) I cut my losses and figured I'd try Sunday afternoon. To which I learned from the valet, closed Sun LOL.

The Good:

The Club. Again its $10 valet, $20 cover. 50/50 mix of white girls and latinas. Mostly 6-7's, some 8's, and a handful of 9's. Naturals and enhanced. Relaxed vibe despite it getting more packed. Place still full at 2:30 am when I left. I chatted with a friendly regular, gave me some reassuring words and showed me his VIP card they give out for free entry.

Me. I was prepared to not get screwed over. Scoured the forum, found Ozy's and other's gameplans. Set up shop, scope the place, be selective, have set budget & goals while ready to turn away anything. I turned away 2 flirty girls that I had no interest in without issue. Gave me confidence to have set playbook for every time. Making better rapport (via tips and exposure) with the staff.

Next week: Will try a weeknight again, hoping its better practice on a slow night. My VIP / test dance / test tip money is saved as I didn't use it Sat. I already have 2 reliable latinas there (1 overcharges for much less though) so I'm hoping to secure 1-2 white girls from the other cliques there. I imagine this is better to get me on the radar of more girls if I just feed a few key girls and rely word of mouth. Trying to "conquer" TT before I move onto daytime Vivide for what sounds like a similar scene for Latina's and white girls that do VIP extras.

Since my bam from Blaze, I've been hitting up seduction day shift to see if anything pops. After about 5 trips, I realized regulars are there early 1-4 and get the girls attention. They don't waste too much time with newbies as the club is too slow to leave a regular to try some new money.

After falling through 5 or 6 times the past two weeks, Lexi (under 5 feet, chocolate, petite) comes over to offer me some dances. I say maybe. She asks why? I tell her I like DO dances. She says I can't have those but stays to chat. She asks if I get dances like that often. I tell her at other clubs and occasionally here. We chat a get her a couple of drinks ($5 well, $3 beers during day shift) and she just Chop it up.

A song she likes comes on and she asks if she can dance for me. For a non-DO dance, it was pretty decent. After the song, she asks me if it was a good dance. I tell her it was average. I tell her I've been getting DO dances for 10 years and the best regular dance will only be average for me.

She relents and says she wants to try a do dance. We do four. I slide her a 20. She says that it was fun to sneak but she won't be doing it again. I ask her why. She says because I got a little pre-cum on her. I apologize. I ask her if she minds if I put on a rubber-- which is my preference, I generally walk into the club with a rubber on but I hadn't had a whole lot of luck at seduction.

I go to the bathroom, slide a rubber on and come back. We get 8 dances before she says she's hot and wants a break so she can hit her blunt. During her break, she said that with a rubber those dances are harmless. I told her to start dancing again whenever she's ready. We end up getting about 20 more dances. About half way through those I ask her if I can point the tip on her lips. She agrees.

As soon as I point, the pussy so wet that the head is in her. She keeps dancing on the tip. A few songs late half the dick is in there. By the last couple songs she's riding me and I shoot in the rubber.

In total I spent $200 for about 25-30 dances and drinks. I got the digits and will be seeing her regularly.

Lastly, and I don't know if this condom is new but trojan has a rubber called "bareskin raw. " This the thinnest condom ever. Felt as close to raw I as I have ever felt. So much so that Lexi asked me if the rubber broke. It didn't. If you're giant, this might not be for you. As the screen name says, I'm only 6. 5 inches with not a whole lot of girth and this was really tight for even me. I recommend these rubber wholeheartedly if you want to be safe and feel that pussy!

Be safe!

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;6044902]You always provide great reports, JM. Too bad I'm not into the strip club scene or we'd need to hook up. I love spinners and I don't care what color they are. Is takeout a reasonable option with these spinners?[/QUOTE]Ah, for me I more or less get out of it based on the work I put into it. Someone asked the same type question in a PM which I answered in more detail. So once I have danced someone a couple times (a couple visits to the club) and it seems we have a good vibe I will ask about the possibility of OTC. I shoot for the 6-8 range with the right body type and a pleasant disposition. So to put it in perspective, I get about 50% that are interested at Vivide. In the past it was about 80% at Follies, 40% at Blaze, and 50% at Strokers when they had that core group of day shift spinner types.

At Follies I have asked about OTC and gone straight from the club, to dinner, and back to the room (and sometimes in the car) but these ladies escorted part time. I am sure there are some that will do the same at Vivid but usually it's dinner after the shift to see if we have a match of interest. If so, then I pick a night they are available so there is no rush and they are well rested and their hygiene is on point. I basically have stopped asking in the past year because I already have a short list that I could not get to Atlanta to see (I come from out of State as you know).

To add to this, I would estimate about 40% of the ladies at Vivid will provide full service ITC (not my thing normally). The few I have seen in a club I saw outside as well FWIW at other spots. For me OTC is a decent option but just requires a lot of travel time and money for everything else. If I lived in Atlanta and was a true regular at Vivide I think it would be like shooting fish in a barrel to get those 6-8 types for OTC.

There is a constant churn of new faces but the club Platinum closing seems to have really ratcheted up the talent and hunger level. Yes, definitely worth a try IMO. Good luck if you go.

[QUOTE=JMAbacus;6046199] I shoot for the 6-8 range with the right body type and a pleasant disposition. So to put it in perspective, I get about 50% that are interested at Vivide. In the past it was about 80% at Follies, 40% at Blaze, and 50% at Strokers when they had that core group of day shift spinner types.[/QUOTE]Interesting and that's exactly the type of girl I would target because a pleasant disposition can mean the difference between a wild night and a bad storm. I was only mildly familiar with Follies. Are you saying that the 30% drop in takeout at Vivide, in comparison to Follies, is because the Follies girls were more into the escort circuit?

As an FYI I used to be a big Follies day shift guy and found that by 12:30 -1 pm most of the better.

High back chairs were gone and club was crowded with both ladies and guys.

Went to Vivide on a Thursday and at 1 virtually no one was there.

So when I go again it will be closer to 3 pm.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;6046414]Interesting and that's exactly the type of girl I would target because a pleasant disposition can mean the difference between a wild night and a bad storm. I was only mildly familiar with Follies. Are you saying that the 30% drop in takeout at Vivide, in comparison to Follies, is because the Follies girls were more into the escort circuit?[/QUOTE]Well, I knew several ladies that escorted half the time and stripped at Follies. It seemed common. I don't have my finger on the pulse of Vivide like some, but for the younger AA ladies they tend to be more conservative as a group in comparison to the wild west days of Follies. Might be related a bit to Covid, the culture of Vivid versus Follies, or whatever. On my first couple outings to Follies I asked 10 AA ladies if they would consider seeing me outside the club. I had yes, hell yes, absolutely, when did you have in mind, etc. I had only one lady tell me that she had done it before but could not any longer as she was engaged. This was on the first meet.

If I opened with that same question at Vivide (I don't) the interest level would be much less. I hear things like I try to keep my club business and OTC or personal life separated. I work and leave it at the club.

My perception is the younger AA ladies are more conservative than the Latinas and white women at Vivide. That is based on VIP activity. Even though I don't really do it I ask about VIP with the ladies I dance. For the young AA types it is less than 50%. I would guess more like 90% for the white women that pop in and out. That's my limited experience. These hard core local regulars can always step in and correct me or put a finer detail on how these club dynamics work.

[QUOTE=JMAbacus;6047014]Well, I knew several ladies that escorted half the time and stripped at Follies. It seemed common. I don't have my finger on the pulse of Vivide like some, but for the younger AA ladies they tend to be more conservative as a group in comparison to the wild west days of Follies. Might be related a bit to Covid, the culture of Vivid versus Follies, or whatever. On my first couple outings to Follies I asked 10 AA ladies if they would consider seeing me outside the club. I had yes, hell yes, absolutely, when did you have in mind, etc. I had only one lady tell me that she had done it before but could not any longer as she was engaged. This was on the first meet.

If I opened with that same question at Vivide (I don't) the interest level would be much less. I hear things like I try to keep my club business and OTC or personal life separated. I work and leave it at the club.

My perception is the younger AA ladies are more conservative than the Latinas and white women at Vivide. That is based on VIP activity. Even though I don't really do it I ask about VIP with the ladies I dance. For the young AA types it is less than 50%. I would guess more like 90% for the white women that pop in and out. That's my limited experience. These hard core local regulars can always step in and correct me or put a finer detail on how these club dynamics work.[/QUOTE]I've just had dances at Vlive. I speak some Spanish but I can tell you quite a few of the Latinas in there do not speak a word of English. It's fine with dances and small talk but getting into complex social based negotiating is challenging. I think if you are a gringo fluent in Spanish it goes a long way there.

[QUOTE=JMAbacus;6047014]Well, I knew several ladies that escorted half the time and stripped at Follies. It seemed common. I don't have my finger on the pulse of Vivide like some, but for the younger AA ladies they tend to be more conservative as a group in comparison to the wild west days of Follies. Might be related a bit to Covid, the culture of Vivid versus Follies, or whatever. On my first couple outings to Follies I asked 10 AA ladies if they would consider seeing me outside the club. I had yes, hell yes, absolutely, when did you have in mind, etc. I had only one lady tell me that she had done it before but could not any longer as she was engaged. This was on the first meet.

If I opened with that same question at Vivide (I don't) the interest level would be much less. I hear things like I try to keep my club business and OTC or personal life separated. I work and leave it at the club.

My perception is the younger AA ladies are more conservative than the Latinas and white women at Vivide. That is based on VIP activity. Even though I don't really do it I ask about VIP with the ladies I dance. For the young AA types it is less than 50%. I would guess more like 90% for the white women that pop in and out. That's my limited experience. These hard core local regulars can always step in and correct me or put a finer detail on how these club dynamics work.[/QUOTE]The young AA's are much more worried about there reputations. Stripping is not sex work in their culture. In addition, they likely have friends that visit the club and they don't want to have the reputation of a ho. I know it doesn't make sense, but try and understand the dynamics at play. When you see the make it rain, air dance receiving types having a good time, they're usually not interested in buying pussy. They think there game will get them down to fuck, whereas we just accept things as they are, a woman wanting money to fuck. Follies had an accepted ho culture for the day shift. There was no shame in selling pussy if you worked day shift at follies because everyone did the same. It was very rare, as you mentioned, to find someone not down to fuck for a couple hundred.

VIVIDE doesn't include the same pervasive culture of hoeing. Most of the black dancers at VIVIDE have heard of the follies name, but never worked there. There friends go to VIvIDE, so they can't be known as a ho. A customer with a trick reputation can be enough to fuckover a well built reputation. As you stated, any are down to sell some pussy, but you must go about it thr right way, AND, have the right standing at the club, I. E not be known as a trick.

The above is just a long way to say that you're right. Young black chicks care more about there reputation than the couple of hundred were willing to give them for extras. It was that way with our faves at strokers, and is also that way at vivide.

[QUOTE=NewDude;6048496]The young AA's are much more worried about there reputations. Stripping is not sex work in their culture. In addition, they likely have friends that visit the club and they don't want to have the reputation of a ho. I know it doesn't make sense, but try and understand the dynamics at play. When you see the make it rain, air dance receiving types having a good time, they're usually not interested in buying pussy. They think there game will get them down to fuck, whereas we just accept things as they are, a woman wanting money to fuck. Follies had an accepted ho culture for the day shift. There was no shame in selling pussy if you worked day shift at follies because everyone did the same. It was very rare, as you mentioned, to find someone not down to fuck for a couple hundred.

VIVIDE doesn't include the same pervasive culture of hoeing. Most of the black dancers at VIVIDE have heard of the follies name, but never worked there. There friends go to VIvIDE, so they can't be known as a ho. A customer with a trick reputation can be enough to fuckover a well built reputation. As you stated, any are down to sell some pussy, but you must go about it thr right way, AND, have the right standing at the club, I. E not be known as a trick.

The above is just a long way to say that you're right. Young black chicks care more about there reputation than the couple of hundred were willing to give them for extras. It was that way with our faves at strokers, and is also that way at vivide.[/QUOTE]"Stripping is not sex work in their culture. In addition, they likely have friends that visit the club and they don't want to have the reputation of a ho. " 100% for most AA dancers in a $10 club and Blue Flame. They also understand that the dream of getting the pussy is much more lucrative than selling the pussy. But like you said if you play it right then you can convince them into giving it up, but that also requires time and possibly more money than the $200-$300 white girl or latina you could get same day.

One of the dancers I am friendly with said that the owners put cameras up and found f'ing going on in the halls upstairs and other places and threatened to shut it down. So any such activities are strictly behind the black curtains. That is supposedly why the curtains went upstairs as I used to get some DO titty fucking upstairs.

[QUOTE=NewDude;6048496]The young AA's are much more worried about there reputations. Stripping is not sex work in their culture. In addition, they likely have friends that visit the club and they don't want to have the reputation of a ho. I know it doesn't make sense, but try and understand the dynamics at play. When you see the make it rain, air dance receiving types having a good time, they're usually not interested in buying pussy. They think there game will get them down to fuck, whereas we just accept things as they are, a woman wanting money to fuck. Follies had an accepted ho culture for the day shift. There was no shame in selling pussy if you worked day shift at follies because everyone did the same. It was very rare, as you mentioned, to find someone not down to fuck for a couple hundred.

VIVIDE doesn't include the same pervasive culture of hoeing. Most of the black dancers at VIVIDE have heard of the follies name, but never worked there. There friends go to VIvIDE, so they can't be known as a ho. A customer with a trick reputation can be enough to fuckover a well built reputation. As you stated, any are down to sell some pussy, but you must go about it thr right way, AND, have the right standing at the club, I. E not be known as a trick.

The above is just a long way to say that you're right. Young black chicks care more about there reputation than the couple of hundred were willing to give them for extras. It was that way with our faves at strokers, and is also that way at vivide.[/QUOTE]

Another night at TT. Slower on weeknights than weekends, which I prefer. Easier to / get approached and less big spenders & regulars lock down the better talent. 50/50 mix of Latinas and white girls. Spread of mostly 7's, some 6's and 8's. Early on I got approached by 1 of my couple Latina's I've had VIP action, she got right to the VIP offer. Told her to give me 20-30 min. I wanted to scope the place out & try out the tips from this forum. My other VIP Latina was working another guy, which was fine since I still wanted to try a girl in a different friend group. Saw 1 of the porn star enhanced white girls, 9 body with enhanced T&A. Remembering advice, I saw she only air danced with another customer and kept pulling his hands off her. No personality or enthusiasm, pass. This other enhanced blonde caught my eye, like a tall blonde Kylie Jenner & definitely acts the same mannerisms. She never pole dances but will lap dance at bar and floor, grinding, going topless, encouraging groping. So I was ready to test her with 2 lap dances. As I work my way over, she gets snagged by another guy at the bar. Darn, but after seeing her good dance I figured she's still a good prospect. Time passes, she disappears and walks the floor circuit. I pursue and she gets pulled by another booth for another round of topless grinding and groping. I cut my losses and moved back to another Latina for VIP. She was aggressive with the upsell and I caved partially for added CBJ for $300 total to her for 30 min. Shouldn't have given in, but it was good to build a rapport & exchanged contact info. TT still remains my go to for location and talent, the club is laidback and I'm getting friendly with staff. I'm going to try Vlive this Sat afternoon as I've heard they have a similar talent pool. Hoping a fresh environment can help me practice at going up to the hottest ones.

[QUOTE=JMAbacus;6047014]Well, I knew several ladies that escorted half the time and stripped at Follies. It seemed common. I don't have my finger on the pulse of Vivide like some, but for the younger AA ladies they tend to be more conservative...

...I hear things like I try to keep my club business and OTC or personal life separated. I work and leave it at the club.

My perception is the younger AA ladies are more conservative than the Latinas and white women at Vivide. That is based on VIP activity. Even though I don't really do it I ask about VIP with the ladies I dance. For the young AA types it is less than 50%...[/QUOTE]Including college, I've been living in ATL for 23 years. I've been engaged or married 7 of those 23 years. During the remaining 16 years, I have had 3 exclusive stripper girlfriends and dated about 9 or 10 more (fucking, some dates, etc but no official title).

I write all that to note that if a girls tells you she doesn't offer OTC, you have a decent chance of getting some long-term FREE vagina off her. Now, there is the possibility that she is so repulsed by you that there's not a price where she's willing to fuck you but all strippers have a price for the right person.

Strippers tell you no on OTC for three reasons: 1) As mentioned earlier, they're repulsed by you, and there isn't a price where she'd fuck you, 2) You don't tip enough to meet their quote and she doesn't want the "who does she think she is to charge $2000 for sex," girl and 3) She can envision herself dating or fucking with you.

I've met all the strippers I dated the same way. I was a regular. Being a regular, we sit and chat before and after the dances. That often leads to conversations on what they do on their off days. Eventually their favorite spots come up and I'll offer to take them there. Those turn into further dates which then leads to exclusive relationships or fuck friends.

Next thing, most of the guys a stripper will ever date will be guys she met at the club. This isn't theory. All of the strippers I've dated said it's easier as guys they meet at the club know and accept their lifestyle. They don't want to have that awkward "so what do you do?" conversation with a civilian. Also, in the back of a civilians mind, they're always asking themselves, "did she or is she fucking customers. " Lastly, they know the amount of discretionary income we have makes them suitable to that social lifestyle. They are not taking time to deal with a potentially frugal dude when there's guys at the club who drop anywhere from $250-$1 at the club on a weekly basis. Since they're likely to meet they're next bf at the club, they don't want to give off the impression that they fuck for money.

I say this to say, never believe the no OTC lie and if you hear that line, just know you have a 33% chance of fucking a stripper for free.

[QUOTE=SixInchPimp;6050567]Including college, I've been living in ATL for 23 years. I've been engaged or married 7 of those 23 years. During the remaining 16 years, I have had 3 exclusive stripper girlfriends and dated about 9 or 10 more (fucking, some dates, etc but no official title).

I write all that to note that if a girls tells you she doesn't offer OTC, you have a decent chance of getting some long-term FREE vagina off her. Now, there is the possibility that she is so repulsed by you that there's not a price where she's willing to fuck you but all strippers have a price for the right person.

Strippers tell you no on OTC for three reasons: 1) As mentioned earlier, they're repulsed by you, and there isn't a price where she'd fuck you, 2) You don't tip enough to meet their quote and she doesn't want the "who does she think she is to charge $2000 for sex," girl and 3) She can envision herself dating or fucking with you.

I've met all the strippers I dated the same way. I was a regular. Being a regular, we sit and chat before and after the dances. That often leads to conversations on what they do on their off days. Eventually their favorite spots come up and I'll offer to take them there. Those turn into further dates which then leads to exclusive relationships or fuck friends..[/QUOTE]Fine,

Quality report. The same can be same for the majority of providers, whether they're strippers or not. What most guys fail to realize is to focus on balance and basic common sense.

Guys: If that's what the provider is doing, why aren't you doing it at a higher lever so you can fuck her pussy?

[QUOTE=SixInchPimp;6050567]Including college, I've been living in ATL for 23 years. I've been engaged or married 7 of those 23 years. During the remaining 16 years, I have had 3 exclusive stripper girlfriends and dated about 9 or 10 more (fucking, some dates, etc but no official title).

I write all that to note that if a girls tells you she doesn't offer OTC, you have a decent chance of getting some long-term FREE vagina off her. Now, there is the possibility that she is so repulsed by you that there's not a price where she's willing to fuck you but all strippers have a price for the right person.

Strippers tell you no on OTC for three reasons: 1) As mentioned earlier, they're repulsed by you, and there isn't a price where she'd fuck you, 2) You don't tip enough to meet their quote and she doesn't want the "who does she think she is to charge $2000 for sex," girl and 3) She can envision herself dating or fucking with you.

I've met all the strippers I dated the same way. I was a regular. Being a regular, we sit and chat before and after the dances. That often leads to conversations on what they do on their off days. Eventually their favorite spots come up and I'll offer to take them there. Those turn into further dates which then leads to exclusive relationships or fuck friends.

Next thing, most of the guys a stripper will ever date will be guys she met at the club. This isn't theory. All of the strippers I've dated said it's easier as guys they meet at the club know and accept their lifestyle. They don't want to have that awkward "so what do you do?" conversation with a civilian. Also, in the back of a civilians mind, they're always asking themselves, "did she or is she fucking customers. " Lastly, they know the amount of discretionary income we have makes them suitable to that social lifestyle. They are not taking time to deal with a potentially frugal dude when there's guys at the club who drop anywhere from $250-$1 at the club on a weekly basis. Since they're likely to meet they're next bf at the club, they don't want to give off the impression that they fuck for money.

I say this to say, never believe the no OTC lie and if you hear that line, just know you have a 33% chance of fucking a stripper for free.[/QUOTE]More like a 25% chance. She could already have a boyfriend. Like you said, you've dated a dancer exclusively before. And idk about every stripper having a price. Maybe it is true in a way, but I've offered 4 k before which was declined and ended up getting it for free months down the road. Some dancers really don't have a price or it is beyond what someone is willing to pay. Dancers that come to work after 11 pm-12 certainly aren't fucking OTC at a reasonable price 300-800 unless they are a pro. You also mentioned dudes dropping $250-1 a week. I can certainly say OTC gets easier and it is "free" but you're paying 2 k+ a month to get to that point.

I personally do not like OTC extras from clubs I frequent because it ruins the overall experience. Much rather go on Eros for that itch.

[QUOTE=SixInchPimp;6050567]Including college, I've been living in ATL for 23 years. I've been engaged or married 7 of those 23 years. During the remaining 16 years, I have had 3 exclusive stripper girlfriends and dated about 9 or 10 more (fucking, some dates, etc but no official title).

I write all that to note that if a girls tells you she doesn't offer OTC, you have a decent chance of getting some long-term FREE vagina off her. Now, there is the possibility that she is so repulsed by you that there's not a price where she's willing to fuck you but all strippers have a price for the right person.

Strippers tell you no on OTC for three reasons: 1) As mentioned earlier, they're repulsed by you, and there isn't a price where she'd fuck you, 2) You don't tip enough to meet their quote and she doesn't want the "who does she think she is to charge $2000 for sex," girl and 3) She can envision herself dating or fucking with you.

I've met all the strippers I dated the same way. I was a regular. Being a regular, we sit and chat before and after the dances. That often leads to conversations on what they do on their off days. Eventually their favorite spots come up and I'll offer to take them there. Those turn into further dates which then leads to exclusive relationships or fuck friends.

Next thing, most of the guys a stripper will ever date will be guys she met at the club. This isn't theory. All of the strippers I've dated said it's easier as guys they meet at the club know and accept their lifestyle. They don't want to have that awkward "so what do you do?" conversation with a civilian. Also, in the back of a civilians mind, they're always asking themselves, "did she or is she fucking customers. " Lastly, they know the amount of discretionary income we have makes them suitable to that social lifestyle. They are not taking time to deal with a potentially frugal dude when there's guys at the club who drop anywhere from $250-$1 at the club on a weekly basis. Since they're likely to meet they're next bf at the club, they don't want to give off the impression that they fuck for money.

I say this to say, never believe the no OTC lie and if you hear that line, just know you have a 33% chance of fucking a stripper for free.[/QUOTE]Regarding the chicks you dated or fucked for free, where you known in the club as an extras guy, or trick in there words?

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;6048849]One of the dancers I am friendly with said that the owners put cameras up and found f'ing going on in the halls upstairs and other places and threatened to shut it down. So any such activities are strictly behind the black curtains. That is supposedly why the curtains went upstairs as I used to get some DO titty fucking upstairs.[/QUOTE]I was specifically addressing why it would seem like less AA's offer in the club than out.

[QUOTE=SixInchPimp;6046123]Since my bam from Blaze, I've been hitting up seduction day shift to see if anything pops. After about 5 trips, I realized regulars are there early 1-4 and get the girls attention. They don't waste too much time with newbies as the club is too slow to leave a regular to try some new money.

After falling through 5 or 6 times the past two weeks, Lexi (under 5 feet, chocolate, petite) comes over to offer me some dances. I say maybe. She asks why? I tell her I like DO dances. She says I can't have those but stays to chat. She asks if I get dances like that often. I tell her at other clubs and occasionally here. We chat a get her a couple of drinks ($5 well, $3 beers during day shift) and she just Chop it up.

A song she likes comes on and she asks if she can dance for me. For a non-DO dance, it was pretty decent. After the song, she asks me if it was a good dance. I tell her it was average. I tell her I've been getting DO dances for 10 years and the best regular dance will only be average for me.

She relents and says she wants to try a do dance. We do four. I slide her a 20. She says that it was fun to sneak but she won't be doing it again. I ask her why. She says because I got a little pre-cum on her. I apologize. I ask her if she minds if I put on a rubber-- which is my preference, I generally walk into the club with a rubber on but I hadn't had a whole lot of luck at seduction.

I go to the bathroom, slide a rubber on and come back. We get 8 dances before she says she's hot and wants a break so she can hit her blunt. During her break, she said that with a rubber those dances are harmless. I told her to start dancing again whenever she's ready. We end up getting about 20 more dances. About half way through those I ask her if I can point the tip on her lips. She agrees.

As soon as I point, the pussy so wet that the head is in her. She keeps dancing on the tip. A few songs late half the dick is in there. By the last couple songs she's riding me and I shoot in the rubber.

In total I spent $200 for about 25-30 dances and drinks. I got the digits and will be seeing her regularly.

Lastly, and I don't know if this condom is new but trojan has a rubber called "bareskin raw. " This the thinnest condom ever. Felt as close to raw I as I have ever felt. So much so that Lexi asked me if the rubber broke. It didn't. If you're giant, this might not be for you. As the screen name says, I'm only 6. 5 inches with not a whole lot of girth and this was really tight for even me. I recommend these rubber wholeheartedly if you want to be safe and feel that pussy!

Be safe![/QUOTE]Did Lexi have muscular arms with a very flat stomach and strong jawline. If so I danced her a few weeks ago and she too was wary of being seen as a VIP girl. It could have been BS, but I'd it's the same chick, she also has an aversion to be known as an extras girl.

[QUOTE=RondaColdSon;6051253]More like a 25% chance. She could already have a boyfriend. Like you said, you've dated a dancer exclusively before. And idk about every stripper having a price. Maybe it is true in a way, but I've offered 4 k before which was declined and ended up getting it for free months down the road. Some dancers really don't have a price or it is beyond what someone is willing to pay. Dancers that come to work after 11 pm-12 certainly aren't fucking OTC at a reasonable price 300-800 unless they are a pro. You also mentioned dudes dropping $250-1 a week. I can certainly say OTC gets easier and it is "free" but you're paying 2 k+ a month to get to that point.

I personally do not like OTC extras from clubs I frequent because it ruins the overall experience. Much rather go on Eros for that itch.[/QUOTE]I think you need to have a pretty good game to date or do OTC. My game is usually with my money and just being a nice dude which probably doesn't work for OTC and why I haven't tried it. These girls are vulnerable but still good at playing games. I dated an ex-stripper once and the sex and passion was great but the insanity was more than I could deal with.

[QUOTE=NewDude;6052001]Regarding the chicks you dated or fucked for free, where you known in the club as an extras guy, or trick in there words?[/QUOTE]Yes and no! At a place like the old Follies, you're a trick! If you set in Dick Out row at the downstairs bar at Blaze, you'll probably be deemed a trick. Other places, going to the VIP during dayshift may not necessarily mark you as a trick if you have discretion. By that, I mean, if you ask 8 girls for VIP and are seen going into VIP, you'll be marked as a trick. However, if you get DO dances or dance with a girl regularly and then hit the VIP on the low, then you can skate. I would like to note though, the girls that view you as a potential bf / fwb won't fuck with you if you do VIP a lot. I personally try to avoid VIP as my wife is relatively known in ATL so I can't risk it getting back to her that I'm often on the champagne room.

If you're known as a trick, they not going to give you free pussy when they know they can reliably knock you off for a few hundred a week.

[QUOTE=NewDude;6052002]I was specifically addressing why it would seem like less AA's offer in the club than out.[/QUOTE]Most, if not all of the AA girls in Vivide are fucking in VIP. The least likely of them will do. So on a very slow day or if bills are due or if they're stacking money for a trip, a BBL, or veneers, etc.

[QUOTE=NewDude;6052008]Did Lexi have muscular arms with a very flat stomach and strong jawline. If so I danced her a few weeks ago and she too was wary of being seen as a VIP girl. It could have been BS, but I'd it's the same chick, she also has an aversion to be known as an extras girl.[/QUOTE]That's her but there are two other dancers there of similar description minus the strong jawline.