BBB. Now you are preaching my brother
[QUOTE=Bad Bad Boy; 1578858]Rookiemonger, a very knowledgeable and respected member, expressed his frustration in recently being stood up by our flavor of the month SW who has a thing about texting for hookups but often fails to respond to appointments or provide an explanation why she wouldn't. This gal is quickly getting a reputation for being irresponsible and not showing up for appointments and / or responding to text messages, which will eventually come back to bite her in the ass. Drama and SWs are synonymous. Rook knows this better than anyone. We have all had similar experiences or where the SWs draw us into their never ending problems. It would have been nice if the SW would have called and say she was sorry and state why (e. G, I got abducted by aliens and he wouldn't let me call from his cell. LOL) All have a story to tell and many of us want to help out, it rarely works and leaves us frustrated. Drugs really mess them up to the point it affects their memory and thought process, making it nearly impossible to be responsible. Drama is a big part of this hobby and you need to keep your distance and be careful not to cross that line of getting too involved in their lives. It's always a good idea to have a back up plan ready when something goes wrong.
I learned the hard way when dating Alicia, my all time favorite. I remember ALICIA showing up one time with a cut lip an badly bruised face as a result of a beating her boyfriend gave her. I was so upset and wanted to smash him. I have no respect for guys beating up girls to prove how tough they are. ALICIA calmed me down and reminded me it wasn't any of my business, nor my fight so we left it at that. We can very innocently get drawn into their problems when just being friendly and wanting to help. We need to remember at all times that we live in two different worlds which neither will be able to fit into the other. BBB[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you and I fell into that drama with Kiara. It was a blessing and a nightmare at the same time. It got to the point that I was helping her so much that I forgot at times what I was suppose to be doing in my life. Taking her to probation officer appointments, getting her something to eat at crazy hours of the night, listening to her cry about her life and listening to her talk about family matters getting her started on a methadone clinic of which she never started. I guess just the attempt was good enough for her LOL. The drugs controlled her whole world and you can get sucked into that world easily even without doing the drugs. It took me standing up to her that brought things to a head. It took me saying to her that if you want help then except it, but if you do not then stop pretending. It was then that she did not want to stay in her home in the suburbs of Maryland after being brought home by me every night to stay in a normal life at her parents house and then started wearing the same ole dirty clothes and living in a infested apartment in Baltimore once again. This is after having bought her new clothes so that she could feel better about herself. Even getting her coverup makeup to hide the track marks that she was ashamed of. It did nothing but dress up a junky that wanted to pretend that she wanted better. That is the shame of being to close to someone on the street. It took a smack in the face to get me to walk away the other day when she asked me to put a post out there for her that she needs attention. Then afterward telling texting everyone that she needed money for her grandfathers bday to take him out. I then felt sorry for her and gave her money because I know her parents and said we will work it out later. Then the post for her and all the numbers going to her and her making the call of which one she wanted to see. When I texted her, it fell on deaf ears for the first time. Then when I would get a answer it was rude and assholish. She had no problem finding time to meet me to give her money but she had no time after that. Then the major slap was when see called me and said that she has so many clients right now that she did not need to deal with me putting her down and wanting her to change. That when she can find the time for me, that is when I will get it. Until then stop texting her. This is after being with her for almost 3 months. I got twisted into her world of which she has no control. It was all about the dope and were she could get it or steal it. Either way her demons are internal and if you get close to any of these girls, there demons will spread like a infection to you even if you are not the one sticking yourselves with needles. This is such the 3rd girls that I have meet just like Kiara and I thought that I learned my lesson well. Hell I have been mongering since 1984 off and on between girlfriends and a marriage but I still got sucked in LOL. Obvious I did not learn or comprehend and others in here have not read the same book but then the chapters change or we forget what we have read. But that is LIFE! We are not robots regardless of how we put up walls to stop worrying about them and wanting them to be ok.
Even though the time was well spent with Kiara and knowing her life in many personal ways which includes in family. IT was an experience to say the least. But like BBB said, you can not help the unwilling and the unwilling can not help using others because the drugs rule the day in there lives from the time that they wake up until they go to sleep for that brief moment. And when they sleep, that is when they are only like us and our worlds meet.
Happy Hunting to All. Great post Bad Bad Boy Your thoughts where right on the money
Getting Sucked into and Getting out of a Steetwalker's World
We all know how to get sucked into the world of a streetwalker, many of us have done it. It's as easy as falling off a log. BBB and Punished just described some of the heartaches and issues very nicely.
I have two suggestions of how to get out of her world. First, is to plead poverty when she calls: "Oh, baby, I want to see you so bad but I just paid rent and I don't have money to put gas in the car to come see you. This car is too expensive, I need to sell it and buy a POS." Even if you are filthy rich these girls can related to being broke. Don't ever say that you can't spend money today because you need to pay rent (or whatever) tomorrow, that is admitting you have money today and she wants it. Second, you need to convince her that she can get money from other men. I once drove a girl to her client so she could do a BJ for the $20 she needed to buy her meds, she would have been really pissed if she knew I had plenty of money in the trunk when I dropped her off. When she talks about other men paying her money, be supportive of her servicing that man."Wow, it sounds like he is rich, you should give him a call. I wish I had that much money."
Once she believes that you are broke she won't have any reason to call you.
Gentleman, There is a line, and there is a rule.
Look, Some times it is easy to "fall" for one of our ladies. We are involved intimately with them. We may try hard to SAVE them.
You can't. You can help, you can support them, you can even aid them. You can love them. But Gentleman, YOU CANNOT SAVE THEM.
There is a line. It is very clear. If you cross that line, and you will know when you do. Its when you know you are "involved" with them, When your private personal life is being opened to them. This is a Big Red Flag. It will destroy you, and your life. Stop.
I have an expression. You have read my posts, I am an intensive lover. I make love to my ladies, I pay amazing attention to their needs and passions, I am supportive and helpful to my closest friends. I say to them.
Fall in love with me, I will fall in love with you. For just a little while. And then they are gone.
I can't beleive we are having this descussion again. But I see new names, so its always good to review the rules.
An update here. 4 day marathon. 4 girls 4 days 4 amazing women. OMG. I am even impressed. LOL.
Headen for the Hosp. Next week, so all your ladies will be safe for a few weeks. My ladies want to visit me in the hosp. How can I hit on that hot nurse with all these girls running around my room. LOL.
Be safe out there.
Smiling Fox, ; }
We all know about this situation
[QUOTE=NiteTimer;1580018]What you're doing now is what we call re-investing. You have to pull out your investment of time, money and energy in Kiara and have to re-invest in someone else. You are not the 1st one as my friend Joe Cool is learning right now, and this was not a wasted investment, because she was obviously fun for the moist part, and if she wakes up suddenly she may discover you probably were a high (not needle induced) point in her life. I only met her once, and was amazed of how pretty she was, but I know that spell all too well. You're still thinking linear; as most of us old soldiers do do don't punish yourself for making it through the chaos of someone else's life. Now, go out and find some sweet young thang to take your mind off the drama; carry on.[/QUOTE]I think that we are taking to much time on this subject If I would have known that answering or responding to BBB's post would have started such huge response on my comments, I probably would not have done it. I am certainly past it as all of us should be by now. LOL.
It happens to the best of us and even the ones that have been mongering for years.
Happy Hunting
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If the Dr. Phil show is over.
I am with Nitetimer, lets get back to Freaky Friday Fun! All this analysis and you are letting todays treats slip through your hands. We all have been in this long enough to know what the drill is. You can get caught up, once. After that you know there is a line. It is there for a reason, if you decide to cross it, you cross it knowing how things are going to be. If you chose to get involved with anyone beyond the norm, you do so willingly. Its like getting deeply involved with a raging alcoholic then being pissed off they are drunk.
That being said, lets continue to scout new talent! Isn't that what this is all about?
Have a great weekend.
