Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5163613]As I stated previously, there was definitely fraud, questionable voting & counting practices and all that. But if the Dems really went to all that trouble to rig an election then why in Hell did they not ensure they gained the Senate back in October and also not lose 12 seats in the house. Just does not compute.[/QUOTE]In the end they won the Senate anyway. The fraud schemes worked before in November and they worked again in the Georgia Senate run-offs. Nice job by Fat Stacy too. They were cocksure they were going to gain seats in the House and were stunned when they lost those 12 seats. Blamed it on racism, of course. There are a lot of things that don't add up and they will only increase when Mighty Joe has his 15 minutes. Kamala the Mensa candidate will take over before the year is out and by that time millions who were blinded by orange hatred will begin to understand just how much they have screwed themselves and the rest of us in the ass.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5163613]As I stated previously, there was definitely fraud, questionable voting & counting practices and all that. But if the Dems really went to all that trouble to rig an election then why in Hell did they not ensure they gained the Senate back in October and also not lose 12 seats in the house. Just does not compute.[/QUOTE]

The claims of widespread voter fraud during our most recent elections are not only unsubstantiated but they are flat-out false, and have been repeatedly and definitively debunked by scores of the nation's leading election administrators, national security leaders, political leaders, and election experts. Several federal agencies in charge of election security issued a joint statement declaring that the November 3 election was "the most secure in American history" and that there was "no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

Trump and his allies have had ample time to provide evidence of voter fraud across the country but have been unable to do so. They have filed more than 60 lawsuits challenging the results of the November election many of them targeting majority Black cities and counties and have lost all but one. Judges have unanimously rebuffed Trump's claims of fraud as unfounded and contrary to evidence, including judges appointed by Trump and other Republican presidents. Trump's fraud claims were so outrageous that several courts went so far as to denounce the ethics of the lawyers who filed them and expressed disgust at the relief they sought -namely, to disenfranchise hundreds or even millions of voters. Trump fared no better in the lead up to Election Day, when he filed more than a dozen lawsuits predicting that the election would be marred by fraud. Courts rejected every one of those claims.

In a recent phone call, Trump pressured Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a fellow Republican, to "find" enough votes to overturn his defeat. This undoubtedly ranks as one of the most disgusting abuses of presidential power in the history of the republic. Never before has a sitting president attempted to use his power to try to overturn the result of an election he lost. Not only did Trump threaten a public official to try to get him to violate the law, but he did so in an attempt to subvert the democratic process the very foundation of our political system and the president's authority.

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5163716]In the end they won the Senate anyway. The fraud schemes worked before in November and they worked again in the Georgia Senate run-offs. Nice job by Fat Stacy too. They were cocksure they were going to gain seats in the House and were stunned when they lost those 12 seats. Blamed it on racism, of course. There are a lot of things that don't add up and they will only increase when Mighty Joe has his 15 minutes. Kamala the Mensa candidate will take over before the year is out and by that time millions who were blinded by orange hatred will begin to understand just how much they have screwed themselves and the rest of us in the ass.[/QUOTE]You avoided the issue. He asked if they took the time to commit fraud on such a massive level to steal the presidential election why did they lose 12 seats in the house?

This is the very thing all the stop the steal guys keep ignoring and I'd really like to know the answer. You say there was fraud as if it's settled science but 60 court decisions seem to say it isn't.

If they were able to get away with stealing the presidential election why did they lose ground in the house?

I'm not asserting that you are incorrect, I obviously think you are but lets say you're not, why did they lose ground in the house?

I don't care which one of you guys who insist this is true answers this I'd like to know how you rationalize it or is it something you all agree to ignore?

A2.

I won't even read past the first sentence George because you are still strung out on the Democratic Kool-aid. Thought we might be making progress here.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5163793]The claims of widespread voter fraud during our most recent elections are not only unsubstantiated but they are flat-out false, and have been repeatedly and definitively debunked by scores of the nation's leading election administrators, national security leaders, political leaders, and election experts. Several federal agencies in charge of election security issued a joint statement declaring that the November 3 election was "the most secure in American history" and that there was "no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

Trump and his allies have had ample time to provide evidence of voter fraud across the country but have been unable to do so. They have filed more than 60 lawsuits challenging the results of the November election many of them targeting majority Black cities and counties and have lost all but one. Judges have unanimously rebuffed Trump's claims of fraud as unfounded and contrary to evidence, including judges appointed by Trump and other Republican presidents. Trump's fraud claims were so outrageous that several courts went so far as to denounce the ethics of the lawyers who filed them and expressed disgust at the relief they sought -namely, to disenfranchise hundreds or even millions of voters. Trump fared no better in the lead up to Election Day, when he filed more than a dozen lawsuits predicting that the election would be marred by fraud. Courts rejected every one of those claims.

In a recent phone call, Trump pressured Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a fellow Republican, to "find" enough votes to overturn his defeat. This undoubtedly ranks as one of the most disgusting abuses of presidential power in the history of the republic. Never before has a sitting president attempted to use his power to try to overturn the result of an election he lost. Not only did Trump threaten a public official to try to get him to violate the law, but he did so in an attempt to subvert the democratic process the very foundation of our political system and the president's authority.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5163968]I won't even read past the first sentence George because you are still strung out on the Democratic Kool-aid. Thought we might be making progress here.[/QUOTE]The true facts just do not back up what you are claiming about election fraud. People are entitled to their own opinions but not to their own alternate facts.

There were tons of protests for months and some became violent. For the first time a group attempted to capture the capitol to reverse the election results. Both are true. The last part of the rambling was just that.

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5151209]And I suppose that what happened last spring and summer as cities were looted and burned went right over your moronic, thick-brained skull. Never a word from you about that, of course. But, you won, George! Time to go out and celebrate your great victory. Do it fast though. Mighty Joe will be gone in the blink of an eye and then you can toast your ass over president harris. Yesterday was just a precursor of what is to come once your socialist lords and masters assume power and of course we will all hear more self-righteous, sanctimonious, hypocritical piety from dickwads like you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5163995]The true facts just do not back up what you are claiming about election fraud. People are entitled to their own opinions but not to their own alternate facts.[/QUOTE]There was reported fraud in every state and many counties. It was just not enough.

One would have to be Stupid to believe Joe Biden received more votes than President Trump.

President exposed the Professional Politicians ie: The Swamp. The Swamp was more powerful than anyone imagined. They Lied, Cheated and Stole the Presidency. The United States of America may never recover.

[QUOTE=ComTech42;5164106]One would have to be Stupid to believe Joe Biden received more votes than President Trump.

President exposed the Professional Politicians ie: The Swamp. The Swamp was more powerful than anyone imagined. They Lied, Cheated and Stole the Presidency. The United States of America may never recover.[/QUOTE]Keep living in your dream world. Wednesday will be here before you know it! .

There was definite fraud. In Detroit when they were counting votes the Republican poll watchers were kicked out. Some of them saw definite fraudulent activities as the link below shows. Don't forget when it comes time.

To sue, the Judges hearing the case if they are local are elected by the same machines that did the vote counting. Also when it comes time to prove vote fraud you can only prove that they were kicked out. You cannot prove what happened other than by testimony that is not corroborated by the liars on the other side of the issue. Even if you prove that there was fraud it still does not mean that you can prove that there was enough to change the election results. So we end up with just because you cannot prove it, does not mean that it was not obvious and it was obvious. The election was obviously stolen. As far as why they lost 12 seats in the house. The vote fraud occurred mainly in large cities that are run by the Democrats and the contests in those cities were never in doubt. The GOP won those seats because they were conducted in a fair manner. If you doubt the tactics of the left just look at the ruthless use of the media, phony fact checkers and the acts of Silicon valley before and after the election to silence the rest of us. [URL]https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=michigan[/URL]+legilature+hears+detrtoit+vote+fraud&&view=detail&mid=16 D1 F32 CD0 A98560 C59016 D1 F32 CD0 A98560 C590&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2 Fvideos%2 Fsearch%3 Fq%3 Dmichigan%2 Blegilature%2 Bhears%2 Bdetrtoit%2 Bvote%2 Bfraud%26 FORM%3 DHDRSC3.

[QUOTE=Admin2;5163918]You avoided the issue. He asked if they took the time to commit fraud on such a massive level to steal the presidential election why did they lose 12 seats in the house?

This is the very thing all the stop the steal guys keep ignoring and I'd really like to know the answer. You say there was fraud as if it's settled science but 60 court decisions seem to say it isn't.

If they were able to get away with stealing the presidential election why did they lose ground in the house?

I'm not asserting that you are incorrect, I obviously think you are but lets say you're not, why did they lose ground in the house?

I don't care which one of you guys who insist this is true answers this I'd like to know how you rationalize it or is it something you all agree to ignore?

A2.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Admin2;5163918]You avoided the issue. He asked if they took the time to commit fraud on such a massive level to steal the presidential election why did they lose 12 seats in the house?

This is the very thing all the stop the steal guys keep ignoring and I'd really like to know the answer. You say there was fraud as if it's settled science but 60 court decisions seem to say it isn't.

If they were able to get away with stealing the presidential election why did they lose ground in the house?

I'm not asserting that you are incorrect, I obviously think you are but lets say you're not, why did they lose ground in the house?

I don't care which one of you guys who insist this is true answers this I'd like to know how you rationalize it or is it something you all agree to ignore?

A2.[/QUOTE]I did not avoid the issue. Please read my post again. It's right there. The DemLefts were so sure of themselves and their agendas that they didn't push as hard in the house races. In their supreme arrogance they assumed gains in the house, never realizing or understanding that a backlash to their anarchy might take place. And it did. Go back and look at some of the astonished whinings from the likes of the CNN and MSNBC pukes as they bemoaned the loss of the 12 house seats. How could this happen!, they bleated. It must be racism, they screamed. Or, it was lazy black folks who didn't follow the stepinfetchit Democrat playbook as they had for decades. Why didn't they follow it? It's because a lot of black folks finally saw their standard of living actually IMPROVE under Trump and finally saw through the lies of Democrats and finally understood who the real slave masters are in America. That's not the only reason either. Many Americans woke up and voted against the Democratic agenda as they could see for themselves from the events of the past summer what the Democrats were trying to accomplish, a leftist ideology power takeover that they wanted no part of. There's more but there's no point in writing a Russian novel here pointing out the obvious. That is not, as you put it, rationalizing. We are not ignoring anything. You might be but we are not. Like him or not, Trump lost because the election was taken away from him and the at least 75 million (most likely in the 80+ million range) Americans who voted for him. The same thing happened in Georgia with the Senate run-offs. I live here, and the way the votes were tallied greatly disturbed me both in November and on January 5th. The system was set up for voter fraud. It worked. The courts chose to look the other way in a classic case of collective CYA. No way that feeble fool biden got all those votes. No way that corrupt clown got more votes than Obama did in 2008. But here we are. Biden will be sworn in in a few days and will be "president" for less than a year, maybe less than that, and then kamala will take over as planned. Dark times are coming. No, they aren't coming, they are already here.

[QUOTE=Jayman523;5164190]Keep living in your dream world. Wednesday will be here before you know it! .[/QUOTE]And your bad dream will begin on that day. We'll see how excited you are when you finally wake up and realize the awful truth of what you and others have done.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5164049]There was reported fraud in every state and many counties. It was just not enough.[/QUOTE]If you have clear proof of fraud kindly present your evidence to each of the 50 state Attorney Generals and state election board officials. The one clear proof of election fraud we have on record is a call made by President Trump to the Georgia Secretary of State demanding that he find him 11,780 votes to reverse Biden's win in Georgia. The Fulton County DA is already investigating Trump.

[B]Report: 2016 Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud[/B]

[I]PORTLAND, Maine (AP) The now-disbanded voting integrity commission launched by the Trump administration uncovered no evidence to support claims of widespread voter fraud, according to an analysis of administration documents released.

In a letter to Vice President Mike Pence and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who are both Republicans and led the commission, Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap said the documents show there was a pre-ordained outcome and that drafts of a commission report included a section on evidence of voter fraud that was glaringly empty.[/I]

[URL]https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d[/URL]

[B]Documents disprove White House voter fraud claims, says ex-member of Trump commission.[/B]

[I]A review of documents has shown White House claims to have unearthed substantial evidence of voter fraud were false, according to a junior member of Donald Trumps short-lived commission on election integrity.

Matt Dunlap, the top elections official in Maine, said he had examined 1,800 commission documents that were denied to him while he served and that he had since obtained through a court order. He found nothing in them to substantiate the claims made by the commissions vice-chair, Kris Kobach, and the White House when the commission was disbanded in January.

The sections on evidence of voter fraud are glaringly empty, Dunlap reported in an official letter to Kobach and the vice-president, Mike Pence, the commission chair. After months of litigation that should not have been necessary, I can report that the statements by Vice Chair Kobach and the White House were, in fact, false.[/I]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/03/documents-disprove-white-house-voter-claims-says-ex-member-of-trump-commission[/URL]

[QUOTE=DickMGood;5164193]There was definite fraud. In Detroit when they were counting votes the Republican poll watchers were kicked out. Some of them saw definite fraudulent activities as the link below shows. Don't forget when it comes time.

To sue, the Judges hearing the case if they are local are elected by the same machines that did the vote counting. Also when it comes time to prove vote fraud you can only prove that they were kicked out. You cannot prove what happened other than by testimony that is not corroborated by the liars on the other side of the issue. Even if you prove that there was fraud it still does not mean that you can prove that there was enough to change the election results. So we end up with just because you cannot prove it, does not mean that it was not obvious and it was obvious. The election was obviously stolen. As far as why they lost 12 seats in the house. The vote fraud occurred mainly in large cities that are run by the Democrats and the contests in those cities were never in doubt. The GOP won those seats because they were conducted in a fair manner. If you doubt the tactics of the left just look at the ruthless use of the media, phony fact checkers and the acts of Silicon valley before and after the election to silence the rest of us. [URL]https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=michigan[/URL]+legilature+hears+detrtoit+vote+fraud&&view=detail&mid=16 D1 F32 CD0 A98560 C59016 D1 F32 CD0 A98560 C590&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2 Fvideos%2 Fsearch%3 Fq%3 Dmichigan%2 Blegilature%2 Bhears%2 Bdetrtoit%2 Bvote%2 Bfraud%26 FORM%3 DHDRSC3.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5164233]If you have clear proof of fraud kindly present your evidence to each of the 50 state Attorney Generals and state election board officials. The one clear proof of election fraud we have on record is a call made by President Trump to the Georgia Secretary of State demanding that he find him 11,780 votes to reverse Biden's win in Georgia. The Fulton County DA is already investigating Trump.[/QUOTE]Oh yes, that pillar of truth, that shining beacon of integrity, The Fulton County the. Now Sgt. George, a stereotypical leftist parody if ever there was one, has turned to comedy! Remember the Fulton County the? You know, the office that proclaimed that a taser was not a deadly weapon except when it was convenient for them to proclaim that it was? Yeah, that bunch. Sgt. George continues to scrape the barrel's bottom to make his aimless points. Pitiful.