Beginners should read the forum
[QUOTE=DumboTheJumbo;5045158]Hey everyone, I joined a while back but haven't been active at all both in this forum and mongering. I didn't have anything to share or any questions to ask. With no posts, nobody is willing to share digits or info with me. Seems like a chicken and egg problem.
Someone please tell me how to gain some reputation here?[/QUOTE]Read, click on a link for a lady with positive reviews, call, tell her you are new and ask if she'd like to see you, NEVER USE ANY WORDS ABOUT SEX, just that you'd like a visit, what is the suggested donation, newbies don't dicker. Pay a hundred or one and a half to build a base line, be polite! Fuck her and report back, even if she has a hundred reviews, we always like one more. Stick with the well established ladies until you learn the ropes. Repeat. Yd.
Sending A Dick Pick-Due Diligence Is Required
I have had some specific experience with this. While I am not a law enforcement officer, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night! Seriously, I do have a legal background though. Sending a picture of your genitals is called dissemination of explicit sexual material and is a crime. Level varies by jurisdiction. I have asked a law enforcement officer who is a hobbyist about the dick pick requirement and have been told, "law enforcement can not disseminate sexual material in the furtherance of an investigation. " The single biggest reason being the possibility of dissemination to minors. To the best of both of our knowledge, it has not been presented in a court case, yet. I know many girls who require a dick pick before they will see a client. While anyone should rightly be leary, perform your due diligence as best you can seems to me to be common sense. Clearly, sending the picture is dissemination of sexual material. I would not contact nor send a picture to someone I have not checked out as best I could first, before I even pick up the phone. My primary rule is search of the provider's phone number should return a sufficient amount of links to varying advertisements over a period of time. Secondly, they must have varying reviews from different sites also over a period of time. This process certainly eliminates some savory options, but I do believe it has served me well. So, your dick pick gives your provider the confidence that you are not law enforcement. In regards to using common sense, I use a burner phone changed out monthly, available everywhere dirt cheap, pay cash. I never send a picture including my face. I was asked for a copy of my drivers license recently. Screw that. My final thought to add fellow members, is the laugh I get at those who ask "are you in any way affiliated with law enforcement?" as if this CYA. There is clear precedent in the courts that a law enforcement officer may lie in furtherance of an investigation. Lying is one thing. Committing an actual crime in furtherance of an investigation is another. Keep in mind that in our hobby both sides are interested in covering their back side. Simply use common sense with your activity, perform your due diligence and go with your Gibbs gut.
[QUOTE=ReturnOfBlade;5047040]If you're not comfortable it's best to move on. You're not alone. It's a no for me as well 99.9% of the time. In all my years in this hobby I've only made exactly ONE exception. I sent a dick pic for verification and only because this provided had 40 positive reviews on the LC site with respectable rates. It felt weird sending it, but at the same time I felt comfortable based on the plethora of reviews she had. It's not something I foresee myself ever doing again. Definitely not my face ever. There are plenty of providers who don't require photo verification.[/QUOTE]
The Pic Dilemma and How to Handle
I agree that you can find other providers if she insists on pics. If you do still want to see that provider, read on.
There is a way around this if you feel you have to send a pic. All you have to do is send a fake picture pulled from the internet of what ever body part that provider is asking. I literally searched "average looking guy" picture on the internet and found a picture that looks similar to me and have sent that. I use it whenever I need to, it never has failed. I originally found one that actually was TOO close looking to me that it actually fooled my family! It was eerily identical. I don't use that one any longer and found a similar one. When searching, some of you may need to use some other descriptor than average looking guy, maybe above average or below average. LOL.
I try to never need to use the identifying picture. If she has used HER real pic in her ads or sent her real pic and I am not 100% comfortable with the situation, I send a fake pic even less like I look and always ask to meet outside the house or the room. I ask to meet near the pool area, parking lot or some other common area or place before going to the house / room. I will then recognise her and approach her, not the other way around. I approach her and introduce myself. This also is a good tip to avoid a sting situation. LEO will NOT generally meet you outside the room. Using a fake pic also has another benefit to use one. If you are spoken to by LEO, you can always say and prove, "that's NOT me". I also never give my actual car type to a provider either when asked. Same reason. I don't want LEO or possible handlers trying to rob me approaching me in a parking lot.
If she wants a dick pic, find one that resembles you (or not) and send it to her. What is she going to do, match it up to you in person and turn you away when the veins don't match up? NOT when there's $$ waiting for her. Many members have mentioned to never send a real dick pic, I agree. There are tons of reasons not to send real pics and I can't think of a single reason to do it. If the provider EVER finds out your real name and info, she (or her handler) now possesses something that she can easily use against you for blackmale purposes. I bet your wife CAN match up the veins! You would be in a rough spot.
Just my thoughts.
Grain 56.
[QUOTE=MikeDoes;5045100]For awhile now I've seen girls posting about needing photo verification before they'll meet-up; I know it's most likely a safety thing, but I would think if they needed the $ then that wouldn't matter. I've definitely skipped contacting providers because of that. Has anyone found a good way around that? Or are guys really sending these girls their picture?Thanks.[/QUOTE[QUOTE=DixenCider;5045320]No way to get around it if the provider insists. I would just let them know its not something I'm comfortable with and if she won't budge than its best to find another provider.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ReturnOfBlade;5047040]If you're not comfortable it's best to move on. You're not alone. It's a no for me as well 99.9% of the time. In all my years in this hobby I've only made exactly ONE exception. I sent a dick pic for verification and only because this provided had 40 positive reviews on the LC site with respectable rates. It felt weird sending it, but at the same time I felt comfortable based on the plethora of reviews she had. It's not something I foresee myself ever doing again. Definitely not my face ever. There are plenty of providers who don't require photo verification.[/QUOTE[QUOTE=Miketastic69;5047383]Imagine, a provider gets busted and gives up her phone. A picture of your drivers license is included. How do you explain that to work, spouse, court? When her MO is to collect picture before giving you paid sexual services?[/QUOTE]
Anyone have intel on Yasmine?
Anyone seen Yasmine, she claims to be GFE, but no reviews. TIA.
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You know what's going to SUCK the for next 4 weeks?
Usually starting just before Halloween and going pretty steady through about Thanksgiving (many times even through the end of the year) there USUALLY are hundreds if not thousands of young ladies who love to party, diverge on Orlando. This year, they won't show due to cancellations from Covid-19. They show up in groups and gaggles; they show up with boy friends or other friends, they are college kids, millennial, homeless migrants, free-spirits, party girls, goths, witches and everything in between. They come to party and they OFTEN times get left behind due to fights, irresponsibility of themselves or others in their group, misunderstandings, drugs or think they've found nirvana and want to stay.
These ladies usually arrive for Halloween Horror Nights, many would stay through (and a lot more come in for) the Electric Daisy Carnival and a percentage of them stay through Thanksgiving and even into the New Year, many times due to reasons mentioned above. Usually starting around this time we see an increase of these girls (many super hot) who will advertise their services and even walk the streets. The longer they stay, the more desperate and cheaper they seem to get. Several end up drug zombies and end up being stuck here for months. Eventually they filter out but some stay a while. During the EDC, you'd see nothing but hot chicks walking up and down OBT at all hours of the day and night. This year I think it will be quiet. That's bad news for us.
COVID SUCKS!
Grain 56.
Sending pics. Watch the size
I tried to visit a lady who wanted a pic of the hotel when I arrived so I took one and sent it. After 20 minutes passed I asked for room number and she said send the pic. I replied I had and sent another but still no room number. A half hour after the first pic, she responded but I had left. What I realized later is the pic on the phone was 5 megabytes and that sms transfer rate was so low, it took way too long to send. I notice that the phone allows me to send a lower resolution pic that's smaller and arrives much quicker. Probably would have had my dream with the smaller pic. Lesson learned.
On the money with Amy Bear / Harley
I think you are right about the current situation. She is on a TIGHT leash. Her pricing has gone through the roof too. One other thing I've noticed though, in her newer pics, she seems to be blowing up like a balloon. The photos are cropped smartly but she looks like she has pulled a Savannah / Swaggs and is now much bigger in size and trying to hide it with older pics and creative editing.
Grain 56.
[QUOTE=RebelRok;5050414]The thing that strikes me strange is prior to her getting busted she was reckless somewhat independent economical casual but then she gets out of the grey hotel has the ankle monitor and with some dude and she's advertising more oftenWearing make up her nails done total transformation. The new or old dude must have a strong pimp hand. There is no way that she alone could've transformed and organize herself.
A good conspiracy theory LOL that This dude is part of the system that got her out and is no Managing her.[/QUOTE]
Kissimmee Room for Rent for Play
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Kind of a strange ad on EA. Room for Rent for $25 in Kissimmee. I don't know about how safe I'd feel with the 4 MAN SECURITY TEAM next door! Kind of a bold advertisement for Westgate. I doubt this is the actual property listing this ad.
Grain 56.