Well said MrNoodly.
[QUOTE=MrNoodly;1637028]Hmmm. Maybe a contributing factor is that in NYC there are a lot more opportunities to get your dick sucked for free or for the price of a couple of drinks.[/QUOTE]
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Well said MrNoodly.
[QUOTE=MrNoodly;1637028]Hmmm. Maybe a contributing factor is that in NYC there are a lot more opportunities to get your dick sucked for free or for the price of a couple of drinks.[/QUOTE]
Dick sucked for free? I need to move!
[QUOTE=MrNoodly;1637028]Hmmm. Maybe a contributing factor is that in NYC there are a lot more opportunities to get your dick sucked for free or for the price of a couple of drinks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NC Transplant;1637105]Dick sucked for free? I need to move![/QUOTE]Maybe by a "boy named Sue!"
I guess someone forgot to pay someone off here? Sometimes you guys are just plain full of shit. Almost ALL the DC AMPs were shut down about 6 or 7 years ago. And busts do happen with MPs in NYC too.
[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ads-offered-high-end-prostitutes-260-hour-article-1.1189231[/url]
[QUOTE=PieMonger; 1636978]*sigh*
North; South, This; That, Corruption; Corruption. I know for a fact that the Vice departments up North aren't sitting on some moral high horse. They're getting paid in money, services, or critical information to look the other way.[/QUOTE]
Okay I have spent about an hour RTFFing some the AMP threads in NYC. With that many AMPs (at least 500 in Manhattan alone?) , and a population well over 10 million, I would expect to find a substantial number of posts that corroborate some of your claims. Most of the time I read about door fees in the $60 to $80 range. I did not find any reports of guys paying $60 for FS with young gorgeous Asian girls. More often the providers seem to be in their 30s and don't sound all that hot. And guys seem to be paying much more than $100 for FS. So can you provide more specific evidence to back up your claims? I honestly and sincerely hope you can, because I can visit the NYC area several times a year on "business." Perhaps I missed reports that are consistent with your claims when I read the threads. Or maybe the guys who do all the posting prefer to pay more for less with older women.
A very senior mongerer with hundreds of posts,"Dirty Old Guy", recently responded with a very, very detailed post about Manhattan AMPs. It is Post #1495 in the Manhattan AMP thread. I cut and paste here his direct quote about prices:
"12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing. One thing some guys recommend is leaving the tip out in advance. But, I know some guys here recommend strongly against it, but I have always found it works to strip down, lie down, and have the money sitting on the counter before the girl returns to the room. The only times I've ever had to haggle is when I didn't do that."
[QUOTE=Sam Weller; 1636974]I'm from NYC where it's $40-50 for 30 mins door fee and $60- (at most) $100 for FS.
There are at least 500 AMPs in Manhattan alone.
If you leave and go to the outer boroughs (Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx, etc) there's even more and the prices get lower since you are not in the city any longer.
In Manhattan a girl of Monica's looks is the bottom rung average.
Most of the girls look like the girls in the ADs these goofball AMPs put here in BP and the avg age is mid 20s.
I've never had a girl ask for a tip up front in NYC.
And every time I go back I go to my usual place on the upper east side or down in Chinatown on canal and get a 30 mins session for $40 door fee and $60 for FS.
That is the NORM.
Why things are not like that here in a small little bumfuck southern city I'll never know and leave to better minds to explain to me.
I still have a hard time believing that in the 21st century a bunch of religious whack jobs can influence the law so much. And as I stated if these yahoos chase away all the AMPs where are THEY going to go?
I like Charlotte and it has a ton to offer but it's these little things that make me miss a big cosmopolitan educated secular liberal city.
Sigh.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=John Marigold; 1637429]I guess someone forgot to pay someone off here? Sometimes you guys are just plain full of shit. Almost ALL the DC AMPs were shut down about 6 or 7 years ago. And busts do happen with MPs in NYC too.
[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ads-offered-high-end-prostitutes-260-hour-article-1.1189231[/url][/QUOTE]1. That guy was running an actual working girl house. There was no pretense of massage or "therapy"
2. If you do THAT so nakedly (pun intended) in an mid-town upscale residential building the tenants WILL complain and the cops will just have to do something (even in NYC).
3. That's 1 down and 499 to go.
Seriously all the AMPs in NYC that I know advertise as actual AMPs and are very discreet if in a residential building. Many of the others are in cheaper walk ups and brownstones or industrial commercial warehouses downtown and on Canal st which never get busted.
If you're going to operate an actual no holds brothel in a mid-town residential building with hundreds of johns coming in a day you are just begging for trouble.
NYPD hardly have the time on stuff like this unless an upscale neighbor gets other neighbors together and raises a stink to the local PD or co-op board.
Then you are kinda out of luck.
Locations like Rainbow, Sun One, etc in their semi-industrial dilapidated areas would never even get looked at in their NYC equivalent unless they were doing extra circular stuff like drug dealing.
Trust me for AMPs NYC is the place to be.
Hell anywhere outside of CLT is the place to be.
[QUOTE=John Marigold; 1637458]Okay I have spent about an hour RTFFing some the AMP threads in NYC. With that many AMPs (at least 500 in Manhattan alone?) , and a population well over 10 million, I would expect to find a substantial number of posts that corroborate some of your claims. Most of the time I read about door fees in the $60 to $80 range. I did not find any reports of guys paying $60 for FS with young gorgeous Asian girls. More often the providers seem to be in their 30s and don't sound all that hot. And guys seem to be paying much more than $100 for FS. So can you provide more specific evidence to back up your claims? I honestly and sincerely hope you can, because I can visit the NYC area several times a year on "business." Perhaps I missed reports that are consistent with your claims when I read the threads. Or maybe the guys who do all the posting prefer to pay more for less with older women.
If you're paying $100 and only seeing girls in their 30s then you're doing it wrong.
Seriously I'm born and raised in NYC and lived there up till a few years ago when I came here. I have no idea about this list server in NYC as I don't use this web site for AMPs there. I only use the CLT ver since things are so crappy here I need all the help I can get.
And this is not a NYC vs. CLT argument. I love CLT just not the AMPs. I'm not getting into THAT argument.
Are there girls in their 30s and 40s in NYC AMPs- Sure.
Are there girls that charge more than $100 for FS- Of course.
But in my experience those are the outliers and not the norm.
Open the NYC backpage and pick any random Manhattan AMP and you will get this-
$40-50 door fee for 30 mins ($60-70 for an hour).
$20-40 for HE.
$40-60 for BJ.
$60-100 for FS.
You will be able to get to see all girls before choosing one at most of these.
The girls will generally be mid 20s to early 30s and they will all be Kay from Hanna to hotter.
I have no reason to fabricate this stuff. Check out all my CLT posts and you'll see I've never lied or led you guys wrong about anything AMP-wise.
If you search on me in the NYC thread you'll find nothing since I know that city and don't need this site for intel there so I can't even comment on the veracity or usefulness of those guys there.
Finally here is a regular AMP I frequent on NYC visits (about 3 times a year). [url]http://manhattan.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-amazing-massage-best-service-5-star-23/31853096[/url]
The pics on the AD are not the real girls there but the real ones who work there are not far from that.
They are in their mid to late 20s.
Last time I was there it was $50 for 30mins and $60 for FS.
Let me know if you find different but I will be going back there in a few weeks so I can confirm again.
Honestly you can fire up backpage NYC and go to the Manhattan section, close your eyes, and randomly pick any AMP there and you will pretty much get the above.
And yes in a city as large as NYC there will always be exceptions but the norm is what I stated here and elsewhere and I stick by it.
I've go no reason to make up stories about my hometown and I visit it enough times per year to not be a victim of false nostalgia otherwise.
Anyways this was a long post so thanks for reading.
Later
I decided to stay away from the FS / money first AMPs during the holidays and try the smaller AMPs (somewhat a waste of money) :
Cupid-tried twice, attendant. 6, massage. 7, TS. 6, Service-0 legit.
Sunbeam. Seen Annie and Jenny (new) , attendant. 7, massage 7 TS. 0 service. 0, legit.
SR- att. 6, massage- 6. 5, TS-0, service-0 legit.
It was worth the try I guess, all clean and friendly, I hope someone else will post if they received better service, SR and Sunbeam was busy.
Next stop.K!
[QUOTE=Sam Weller; 1636974]I'm from NYC where it's $40-50 for 30 mins door fee and $60- (at most) $100 for FS.
There are at least 500 AMManhattan alone.
If you leave and go to the outer boroughs (Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx, etc) there's even more and the prices get lower since you are not in the city any longer.
In Manhattan a girl of Monica's looks is the bottom rung average.
Most of the girls look like the girls in the ADs these goofball AMPs put here in BP and the avg age is mid 20s.
I've never had a girl ask for a tip up front in NYC.
And every time I go back I go to my usual place on the upper east side or down in Chinatown on canal and get a 30 mins session for $40 door fee and $60 for FS.
That is the NORM.
Why things are not like that here in a small little bumfuck southern city I'll never know and leave to better minds to explain to me.
I still have a hard time believing that in the 21st century a bunch of religious whack jobs can influence the law so much. And as I stated if these yahoos chase away all the AMPs where are THEY going to go?
I like Charlotte and it has a ton to offer but it's these little things that make me miss a big cosmopolitan educated secular liberal city.
Sigh.[/QUOTE]Have you read about how capitalism work, offer and demand. As simple as that. By the way your post was a wast of time nd a waste more answering back
Bad penis! BAD penis! Don't go spending money on things your brain doesn't want.
I called the Wallace joint yesterday for an appointment.
"Who would you like?" she asked.
"Who's available now?"
"Mary."
This was the third time Mary had been offered. I had passed the previous times, but I thought to myself,"Hmmm, all the other Wallace women have been excellent. Maybe Mary is, too. She might even be better."
Mistake.
Just on the basis of looks, I should have turned and left when she met me at the door. But Mr. Dick overrode Mr. Brain. And both left disappointed. Mr. Wallet was crying.
[QUOTE=PrGuy23;1637563]Have you read about how capitalism work, offer and demand. As simple as that. By the way your post was a wast of time nd a waste more answering back[/QUOTE]Can you explain Keynesian or Milton Friedman economics to me mr. Ass Clown?
I would appreciate it as I never bothered getting my MBA.
My 1 request is to try not to be such a vagina when you do so
Thanks and happy new year professor!
[QUOTE=Sam Weller; 1636974]I'm from NYC where it's $40-50 for 30 mins door fee and $60- (at most) $100 for FS.
There are at least 500 AMPs in Manhattan alone.
If you leave and go to the outer boroughs (Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx, etc) there's even more and the prices get lower since you are not in the city any longer.
In Manhattan a girl of Monica's looks is the bottom rung average.
Most of the girls look like the girls in the ADs these goofball AMPs put here in BP and the avg age is mid 20s.
I've never had a girl ask for a tip up front in NYC.
And every time I go back I go to my usual place on the upper east side or down in Chinatown on canal and get a 30 mins session for $40 door fee and $60 for FS.
That is the NORM.
Why things are not like that here in a small little bumfuck southern city I'll never know and leave to better minds to explain to me.
I still have a hard time believing that in the 21st century a bunch of religious whack jobs can influence the law so much. And as I stated if these yahoos chase away all the AMPs where are THEY going to go?
I like Charlotte and it has a ton to offer but it's these little things that make me miss a big cosmopolitan educated secular liberal city.
Sigh.[/QUOTE]Sam, I'm confused. Wasn't it you singing the praises of that fat-ass Wendy from SCS a few months back? She is certainly not in the same league as your perfect NYC gals!
[QUOTE=Smoky R Wood;1637644]Sam, I'm confused. Wasn't it you singing the praises of that fat-ass Wendy from SCS a few months back? She is certainly not in the same league as your perfect NYC gals![/QUOTE]That's why there's chocolate and vanilla.
I don't discriminate.
What Wendy may lack in traditional beauty she made up for in attitude and sexiness.
Do you want a lackluster bored workman like HJ from a young beauty that acts like she's doing you a favor or a enthusiastic dirty talking HJ from a girl who nay not be your physical ideal?
Which brings us back to CLT slim pickings.
In NYC I'd never have to make that choice.
If presented with it I'd just walk a few blocks to the next AMP and not look back.
But being in CLT one has to make do with things one never thought they would like overweight Asian providers and crazy Jesus freaks.
We all make our sacrifices.
I did not post my comments to start a war just trying to figure out the dramatic change in our area. For what its worth I am from Pa and a lot of similarities to whats being said about NY with a couple exceptions. (Similar) The prices are at or just a little higher than whats being said. (similar) The comment about being in a lower rent industrial or commercial area are true in a lot of those areas they have the we contributed to the police department sticker on the door and never get bothered by the police unless problems happen. Although its not published my guess is there is also some complimentary services. Its not true of all townships some especially in the little higher end areas do shut them down but a lot of the areas they are left alone. (different) The girl quality is real hit and miss its not uncommon to get a bowser or get a shitty massage some places are better than others at the looks but they all tend to not worry about the massage when full service is there, especially if she is good looking. Its also not uncommon to go in and get completely rejected for any type of extra service even in a place where you have gone for years. In any case its not worth getting worked up about.
[QUOTE=John Marigold; 1637458]Okay I have spent about an hour RTFFing some the AMP threads in NYC. With that many AMPs (at least 500 in Manhattan alone?) , and a population well over 10 million, I would expect to find a substantial number of posts that corroborate some of your claims. Most of the time I read about door fees in the $60 to $80 range. I did not find any reports of guys paying $60 for FS with young gorgeous Asian girls. More often the providers seem to be in their 30s and don't sound all that hot. And guys seem to be paying much more than $100 for FS. So can you provide more specific evidence to back up your claims? I honestly and sincerely hope you can, because I can visit the NYC area several times a year on "business." Perhaps I missed reports that are consistent with your claims when I read the threads. Or maybe the guys who do all the posting prefer to pay more for less with older women.
A very senior mongerer with hundreds of posts,"Dirty Old Guy", recently responded with a very, very detailed post about Manhattan AMPs. It is Post #1495 in the Manhattan AMP thread. I cut and paste here his direct quote about prices:
"12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing. One thing some guys recommend is leaving the tip out in advance. But, I know some guys here recommend strongly against it, but I have always found it works to strip down, lie down, and have the money sitting on the counter before the girl returns to the room. The only times I've ever had to haggle is when I didn't do that."[/QUOTE]
I dreamt about Cindy a young and cute black hottie at SCS. Her massage was deeper than is typical and felt good. Her personality and appearance were appealing. Her ending left a lot to be desired. Not really into it, just going through the service mechanics but it felt good nonetheless. I'd rate a 5 overall with the ending around a 4. Left. 2$ tip on top of base fee. The facility is nice, clean and reliable but the service can vary some from girl to girl. No TS yet.