Personally I think carrying a loaded gun just gives the cops more reason to bust you unless you have a permit. You are better off carrying pepper spray foam or carry a big flashlight.
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Personally I think carrying a loaded gun just gives the cops more reason to bust you unless you have a permit. You are better off carrying pepper spray foam or carry a big flashlight.
I carry my weapon with me at all times. I do not have a license to carry but I do carry it with in legal right. Now here is the catch 22 if you commit a crime and have a gun in your possession it in turn becomes a charge. Then lets just say lots of these SW are known for hitting a pipe then that becomes a first degree felony is she decides to dump her stash in your vehicle. I will always carry when I cruise for SW been several times I had a boyfriend / pimp interrupt and knowing its there just in case puts me at ease. Now one thing you better do if keep sight of it at all times it will be hell to report a stolen weapon with our circumstance. We all need to take step to stay safe but we all straddle the edge every time we meet a girl. I have only once had to draw my weapon but luckily never had to point and shot (Being prior military I Have in combat). Vino did take a few miss steps but I would have done the same thing but I don't think Vino embarrassed himself it was ore of a situation of testing the waters. TOFTT. I'm just happy he made it out safe lost. 70 but he walked away. One day that SW and he pimp will try to hussel the wrong person and get whats coming to them. Thank you Vino for your reminder.
Jack
[QUOTE=DayCruiser;1348646]What are your guys' thoughts on carrying a piece for instances like this?[/QUOTE]I carry all the time. Except when in a monger situation. My primary objective is safety, I don't take chances like Motel 6 on OBT. To each his own, I would prefer to hobby less than to take chances. Too much to lose, to expensive to defend. Frankly, a weapon is there for one thing. To keep me alive when I have no other options. If I lose some money, I lose some money. The expense of defending myself in court (attorney's fees) even if I am justified, is not worth it. Not to mention a picture in the beloved Sentinel. Another good reason to stick with known providers and establish a long term relationship (a business one).
In fairness, if there is more violence associated with the Hobby in the media, I would be worried about more pressure to enforce the law on this horrid crime without victims by the lay public.
I know some providers have a handgun in their incall. That's different to me. They don't really know what's coming in the door.
[QUOTE=Vankleek; 1348925]I carry all the time. Except when in a monger situation. My primary objective is safety, I don't take chances like Motel 6 on OBT. To each his own, I would prefer to hobby less than to take chances. Too much to lose, to expensive to defend. Frankly, a weapon is there for one thing. To keep me alive when I have no other options. If I lose some money, I lose some money. The expense of defending myself in court (attorney's fees) even if I am justified, is not worth it. Not to mention a picture in the beloved Sentinel. Another good reason to stick with known providers and establish a long term relationship (a business one).
In fairness, if there is more violence associated with the Hobby in the media, I would be worried about more pressure to enforce the law on this horrid crime without victims by the lay public.
I know some providers have a handgun in their incall. That's different to me. They don't really know what's coming in the door.[/QUOTE]I have a permit to carry and do carry nearly all the time. The first time I go to visit someone you better bet I have my 9mm hidden on me somewhere. Once I am comfortable with the girl and it is the same location I will leave the weapon hidden in my truck or not bring it at all. I had one occasion seeing someone on Backpage when I lived in Jacksonville off of Baymeadows road where in the middle of the date someone broke into the room yelling at me and threatening me. I am pretty sure this was a pimp and not an angry BF I had the gun wrapped up in my pants next to the bed so I stood up with it in my hand but did not point it at the person. I pro rated the session taking about half of my money back and left without another peep from the guy while the gun was in my hand. Plus you can ask some of the ladies who have seen me I am not an old or a small person and have a background in boxing. My lesson is carry a weapon if you want but don't be affraid to bring it out or else it could be taken from you and used against you.
Thanks for the input guys. I like to weigh others' opinions on things. The more info you have the better decisions you make. Thats whats great about this board.
[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1348382]Let us not forget that Vino purposely embarrassed himself so as to educate and remind mongers of what can happen. He didn't have to, he could have remained silent. Obviously he didn't get a bad vibe from the girl or he wouldn't have gone to her place. He was honest and gets lectured on here in a soft way. (Excluding RBW COMMENTS because they are personal friends)
If your honest and you've been a big player in the game this has or will happen to you especially with SW's and also with the occasional B / P advertiser, who wouldn't rather go in a warm room rather than their car and we all know or should know the risks, that was the reason for his post, to let everyone know about this girl. Just remember he could have said it several ways, he did not have to tell the truth.
Think about it,
VS[/QUOTE]I once more nominate Vino for Monger of the year 2011.
Oooo yea VS that first your should be YOU'RE you're slipping old man LOL.
HAPPY NEW YEAR.
TA
Vino, this is Just a light hearted take on it, but still true.
You bangned this punks girl, than got dressed and left. Ha Ha. What do you have to be embarrassed about?
Yes you put yourself in danger, but this guy puts his girl on her back for money.
(Joke) Next time give him a tip and tell him to pull your car around. Snap, snap (end joke)
Vino still a winner this girls BF, still and always. A Looser.
Glad your OK Vino.
[QUOTE=The Antagonist; 1349073]I once more nominate Vino for Monger of the year 2011.
Oooo yea VS that first your should be YOU'RE you're slipping old man LOL.
HAPPY NEW YEAR.
TA[/QUOTE]As Smokie so famously sang,
I do hereby second TA's motion in nominating Vino to Monger / Hobbyist of the year!
This is a belated report of my recent trip to your nice city. I arrived during the 2nd week of December. Got some nice intel from JackRPerez1. Thank you very much Jack for that. The day I arrived, I decide to do a toft on 441 around 2pmish. There was soem talent there. A ragged WSW was hovering near citgo. I passed and further up north met with Star. She looked nice, late 20s WSW. Drove around and she told that she had a place nearby and its safe and there is none inside except her female friends. I said ok, lets go. I took some precautions. So we entered adn right there, there is an old black dude and a couple bsws. LOL. Looked ok to me, so we went ahead and had FS for 40. She had a very nice big and tight twat. Liked it. Downside is she did not give head, but I was almost horny to see that nice mound. In the end, she asked 10 more for the room. Well, that is the price you pay when you go to your place. I did not haggle and gave her 10.
Later that night, I took a trip again and lo and behold, girls everywhere. Lots of girls. Saw a nice good looking WSW, probably a 7 on SW scale, with two bsws. Motioned her to come and all three came to my car. I told them I wanted the white one. She gets inside and wanted 200. I am like what? So dropped her off and now the bsws ask me a ride. I tell them that I can't, and they tell me I am racist!
After a little while, found one hot BSW near a hotel about a block north of ihops. She asked for a ride and me being a nice guy, offered her one. But she only wanted to get to her room in that hotel and told me she has a friend a block south of here and she is hot and I should see her. She called her and told her I will see her. Well, I did not want to, but ended up having her in my car. LOL. She was not as hot as she told me, so I was thinking to drop her. More so when she wanted 40 for a french lesson. (Now I am thinking Orlano is expansive) I countered with normal tutuion, she was not happy, we talked and in the end she agreed for normal tuition. No she did do a very good job but I was not to learn anything. She tried and I eventually got tired and tipped her 0. 02 for her efforts. Sorry her name not coming to mind. ON way back, see the WSW who wanted 200 again, wished her good luck and went to my room.
Next night, I head again around midnight, and find mostly bsws. A white WSW is spotted at the south end of 441 stroll, and I make the loop, she comes over, gets inside and I find that she is not looking clean so I make an excuse and drop her and not finding anything head home.
Next night, give a ride to a WSW and turns out she is like in 50's. So I tell her that I do not do this and just wanted to give her a ride. She wants a few bucks, so I offered her a can of coke and drop her off. After a little effort, I finally found a nice WSW and we tried to find a place to park. After driving around for a while, we parked inside a parking lot and she goes to work. Oh, before, she starts she also wants 40. I persist with normal tuition and promise a tip. So she goes to work and does a pretty decent job. Now the bad part is when I am about to cum, she did not catch and I end up with some slight mess. Of course I was very unhappy and told her so. She was good in that she apologized, but I told her she just lost her tip. Drove her back and dropped her. Overall was a good experience but the end was not good. Would have tried her again if I had seen her on my next trip.
Finally, on Friday night, I go out again around 10pm. Saw some TS girls on north end past the interstate. Found a nice looking WSW in early 30s (nort of 441 past the interstate) and offered her a ride. Now she wants $0. 1, asks me to keep driving and starts some BJ and keeps saying she is afraid of LE and LE is heavy around here, and that she does not do it and sees only a few regulars, and has a college education. Eventually she does not finish the job and stops in the middle. I gave her $0. 2 and she goes inside the store to get change and hands me back $0. 07. She gives me her digits and asks me to call her tomorrow. (I did call her next day and a dude answered the phone, I apologized and hung up.) Tells me to leave the place as there has already been 6 arrests tonight and she does not want to end up as a state guest. Now there is another nice looking WSW hanging near the gas station. As I am eyeing her and pass by her, she yells at me and asks me to go home. Now I heed the advice, and drove back to my room.
Well, guys, here is the best part. In between these eventful trips down the 441, I replied to a CL ad for an attractive benefactor for low-drama connection. We exchanged pics and agreed on a two hour date for $$. She is 27, a part time model and has a nice body and great attitude. I met her at her place and we made love like there is no tomorrow. Total GFE. I was fully spent and enjoyed very bit of it. She tried deep throating and I was amazed at her skills because she looked small and I am quite big. I did not try too hard though. Bad thing is I wanted to make a video but my phone memory was full, so could not do it. I did take a couple pics and she also sent some. I am attaching some pics of her. What a great time! I may not share the number, because I did not ask her for that. You guys should keep an eye out on CL if you want to see her.
If I visit orlando again, I will definitely see her. Once thing to remember from Oralndo aside from.
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Was in town a couple of weeks ago and hit OBT on two consecutive weekday evenings. North of I4 everything was too old or too big for my taste. Had one odd encounter on Nashville with a BSW dressed for the role soliciting right in front of her house. This sent up all sorts of warning flags and passed on it. The side streets definitely seemed to be busier than OBT itself, at least for the south side of I4.
Kept hitting the side streets parallel to OBT and came across Tina, a regular WSW with a slim build, blond hair and a tramp stamp. She was so quiet I had to get her to repeat everything. We settled on. 2 plus a tip for a BJ. She knew her side streets well and got us to a good hidden spot with good visibility down the road without being conspicuous. Turned out to be covered, but she might have had good reason so I went along with it. Nothing special, but she worked hard at it with no complaints or attempts to rush. No digits, but would repeat if I saw her out and about.
Well campers, perhaps it has been the high-cost of "end of holidays" air fares, perhaps it was the near-freezing temps; but whatever it it has been, the last two nights have been more of the same all over Gotham. Whether on the east-side, southland, north (or in the case of Monday night) even the west end of town, things remain barren. While there were some signs of life on the south trail, the selection was for the most part sparse (less than a dozen between Holden and 528) and of those spotted, only two WSWs caught my attention. By the time I completed my loop, both were gone.
Last night was more of the same with one exception being a WSW who said her name was "Jessica". She was trying to keep warm on W50 near the tracks. By the time I spotted her, it was after 3AM. I made the S&G and we were off to the races. She was cute, sporting a tight small frame, shoulder-length black hair, nice smile and sparkling eyes. That was the good part. The bad part began once she backed off the agreement we made with regard to what we were going to do as we approached our selected location. She agreed to a BBBJ for. 2, but once we entered the area for parking, she tried really hard to upsell me. The standard line of how great her oratory skills were. Then came the song and dance of how she "needed rent money" and food, etc. I told her under different circumstances, I'd be open to renegotiation, but since it was LATE, I was heading home right after dropping her. When I told her I had no other funds on me at that point, she said "well, you can pay the balance when we get to the 7/11." My response was:"take what we agreed to or leave it." (It has been my experience over the time I have strolled that when a broad upsells, she smells weakness; weakness translates into extra fees for the "promise" of a better time; nothing more. On and on it went. Finally, I started my car, turned on the lights and said,"where am I dropping you?" She knew it was time to play or hoof. She decided to play. Off to a second location. Then time to get comfy. The exchange of gift and onto what she promised. Needless to say, it was awful. Mechanical, rough to the touch, rushed. After five minutes of feeling like more skin was being removed than anything else, I told her to stop. (So much for that promise that she was "the best!") I got her back to within two blocks of where we first met, dropped her and headed home, completely frustrated.
Hey guys, late report from my recent visit.
Was in Orlando, and read the forum. Figured out the loop, and headed up this past Sunday night. Off OBT, found all types fo scary. Guys, weirdos, you name it. But as I always say, I drive too fast, and missed out on two opportunities. Both WSW, both in the area of 36th. One, in a skin tight dress, like she was going out clubbing. When I spun around, one of you had her. Hope she was really a chick. The other, a few blocks north, walking south, looked like a coed, a little heavy below, but very nice from waist up. Looked young. Again, spun around, and. Wait for it. Gone. I really hate it when I'm thr car driving up behind whoever gets her. Was out between 10pm-12am. Gave up.
Was out again in the afternoon on Tuesday. From 11am to about 1pm. It was a nice day for a drive. The same loop and saw three or four. All pretty nasty and a reminder that this type of mongering won't normally net you someone from the next model search. An asian, a WSW, not too bad looking, and a couple of nasties. Gave up. On the way south, I was on 528. Just a nice drive, until I came on the flea market area. Passed a young, hot latina, just walking West. Drove by as I was sure she was headed to the bus stop. Like I said, nice day for a drive, so I spun around just to make sure it was a stop at the bus stop. I wasn't gone 30 seconds, and no bus passed me, and she was gone.
I just drive wayyy toooo fasssssttttt.
[QUOTE=SailingJohn; 1352852]Hey guys, late report from my recent visit.
Was in Orlando, and read the forum. Figured out the loop, and headed up this past Sunday night. Off OBT, found all types fo scary. Guys, weirdos, you name it. But as I always say, I drive too fast, and missed out on two opportunities. Both WSW, both in the area of 36th. One, in a skin tight dress, like she was going out clubbing. When I spun around, one of you had her. Hope she was really a chick. The other, a few blocks north, walking south, looked like a coed, a little heavy below, but very nice from waist up. Looked young. Again, spun around, and. Wait for it. Gone. I really hate it when I'm thr car driving up behind whoever gets her. Was out between 10pm-12am. Gave up.
Was out again in the afternoon on Tuesday. From 11am to about 1pm. It was a nice day for a drive. The same loop and saw three or four. All pretty nasty and a reminder that this type of mongering won't normally net you someone from the next model search. An asian, a WSW, not too bad looking, and a couple of nasties. Gave up. On the way south, I was on 528. Just a nice drive, until I came on the flea market area. Passed a young, hot latina, just walking West. Drove by as I was sure she was headed to the bus stop. Like I said, nice day for a drive, so I spun around just to make sure it was a stop at the bus stop. I wasn't gone 30 seconds, and no bus passed me, and she was gone.
I just drive wayyy toooo fasssssttttt.[/QUOTE]Sometimes this hobby can be cruel!
He who hesitates misses out more often than not.
R D
I hate it when the SW's disappear and never come back out. Just be careful and do some recon. Because when you make a fast pick up it's easier to get busted.
Guys,
Forgot to mention, lot's of LEO. Wondered if the hotter girls were Leo stings, but couldn't tell. In a one hour time span, there were three cars pulled over by multiple units, all within a few blocks of some of the areas identified in the forum.
Not as many seen during the daylight hours. But during the daylight hours, they were all hidden in parking lot's running radar.
Be careful!