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If I recall correctly, she used to go by Paris at Synn. She had a reputation for being a ROB and it was suspected she changed her name to try to outrun her bad reputation. That was a long time ago so hopefully she has changed by now. She's good looking but not hot in person and a bit older. I might investigate further if she offers a sensible rate.
[QUOTE=FruitCake;6490005]Noticed a dancer named Tatum, she looks cute on roll call, anyone got Intel on her??[/QUOTE]
Oh no, different Honey. The Honey I'm talking about was Chinese, and according to a mutual friend she was pretty highly educated. I got that impression as well from our one email exchange. Getting laps with her was like dropping molly for the first time. When I asked her for a VIP, I had no idea what she'd do or not do. But really, almost no girls didn't do, just Eve and a few chicks who eventually went to the dark side after all. That was the difference between HT and the other HM clubs--you couldn't be sure anywhere else, not even at DVCOI with the 'for privacy just move the fake tree in front of the cubicle entrance' VIP area. At Hawaii, if a girl showed up, she showed up to f*ck. There's one funny exception to that, but that one's too obscure even for me.
[QUOTE=Jeep5151;6490798]Honey from HT is young blonde girl with big natural tits who walks around openly saying "I'll suck your cock for 90 bucks" right? I started this hobby at Paradise back in 2003. Things haven't change much. I'm still using the same approach.[/QUOTE]
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I think I was there on Alyssa's first day. The door swung upen and out she came like she was fired from a cannon. When I say she came in hot, I mean that she knew everything, all the game, all the ins and outs, how to play defense if she needed, how to look at a guy with his dick in her hand in a way that broke a man's will, or got her written into his will. She came off as entirely self-reliant, which is odd considering Nadia's position as 'cousin' ahem I mean business manager. She didn't seen to need or want the companionship of other girls. She had the kind of emotional stability that almost no dancer possesses, but which ensures some serious nightly rakes--she didn't need to talk to anyone, share anything, complain, get a laugh, nothing. She was trench friendship without the trench (insert gag about the size of Dayleen's p*ssy).
She favored a white bikini back then (and I think later as well, if memory serves). The total package was a showstopper--the contrast of that white bikini on her dark skin, the boner-on-sight body, and that oddly joyful face, that bushy hair, the mestiza Lolita vibe. Ouch, my dick hurts just writing this.
I mean she knew everything, right down to the methods for the oily handjob that needed to suffice when you learned her BJ / FS prices and said aw hell naw. I don't know Alyssa's arrangement with Nadia, and of course I asked her directly, getting only a shrug in reply. So I can only surmise that Nadia was schoolmarm, but I feel like Alyssa knew innately how to convince a patron that she's worth literally three times what a day shift girl got for the same thing. I also wondered if maybe she'd worked at Imperial in Santa Fe or Flamingo in Anaheim, both super HM places where several COI club girls started out.
I got a lapdance with her on one of her first days on the job, and wow, shorty could grind. She was very good. Leaving all better sense next to the cumstains on the lap dance couches, I swept the skinny ***** into the VIP area. And three songs later came out chastened for my hubris, the wind sucked from my sails, but nothing else sucked. At that point her prices weren't widely known, so when we settled into the booth, I had no idea of the bill about to be laid on my table. So I asked. I think at the time it was 3 for BJ / 6 for cfs, was it not? I considered those numbers as she kneeled between my legs looking at me with mature self-assurance. 'I'll get the handjob,' I said. I think most will agree, those are the hardest words to utter in all bro-hood next to telling the valet, 'I'm the 2005 Dodge Neon. ' Alyssa was accustomed even then to guys downsizing, so it left her unaffected entirely. Luckily the humiliation didn't downsize me entirely, so before song 3 was halfway complete, she was wiping the goo from between her fingers. If anyone wonders why I didn't ask in advance, I never asked in advance. There are reasons, but they're beyond the scope.
Pretty soon everyone else learned what I learned, and Alyssa's prices got out. That was when th Alyssa stigmatization began. She was the Sin Eater for all girls who hoped to increase their prices, the one who took the heat so that later Charlie, Rossi and others could ask for widly high amounts and get away with it. At the time it was madness. The Zbone board lit up like the mothaf*ckin Luxor skybeam with one topic and one topic alone--who the f*ck does this little sl*t Alyssa think she is charging so much? Meanwhile, Alyssa frolicked, and I mean frolicked, around the club, wearing long white tube socks that contrasted with her Filipina / Mex skin tones and oh how she made my dick hurt, so I'd try not to look at her. It was a waste of time. I'd spend about 30 k per year at least on the hobby, but I wasn't paying that much for covered s*x with a girl I could never thereafter maintain a friendship with (there's that word again, 'friendship,' LOL). That's going to piss off some of you he-men women-hatin secret handshake guys.
But that's nothing like how Alyssa pissed off guys. And from what I've been reading, she was on blast from 2007 until the day she retired in 2022 or 2023.
Next up, part 3, who was hot then and why did the heat come?
Somehow I never heard of that version of 'Honey,' and I'm sad that I didn't, especially if she was any good. Paradise was always a downer, except when I could convince a girl to raw-dog on the couches, which happened not a few times. I'm trying to remember which girl invented the infamous 'Paradise Handshake. ' I think it was that smoking hot, addicted blonde chick. Hmm. Paradise was the first of the clubs I gave up, because after the reno, it just wasn't the same. It was like lumber supply. All the girls had thighs like tree trunks, and the truly dirty girls were all gone. That poor blonde waitress, she saw sooo many Ds being handled as she'd walk up to drop the first drink order. She wasn't bad looking actually.
[QUOTE=Jeep5151;6490798]Honey from HT is young blonde girl with big natural tits who walks around openly saying "I'll suck your cock for 90 bucks" right? I started this hobby at Paradise back in 2003. Things haven't change much. I'm still using the same approach.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Velcrolio;6491128]2.
"how to look at a guy with his dick in her hand in a way that broke a man's will, or got her written into his will."
"'I'll get the handjob,' I said. I think most will agree, those are the hardest words to utter in all bro-hood next to telling the valet, 'I'm the 2005 Dodge Neon.'" from between her fingers. If anyone wonders why I didn't ask in advance, I never asked in advance. There are reasons, but they're beyond the scope.
[/QUOTE]Dear sir-.
You have a gift. I'd hire you if our subject areas were not so *vastly* different. I'm still laughing.
In 2003, there was a hottie (possibly mixed Asian) named Ashton. Not to be confused with the Tropical Lei Ashton. I was there one night for Shawnee, but noticed Ashton going in and out of the VIP with so many guys. My guess was she was just hot and not doing extras. When she came to ask me for a dance, I didn't get any vibes that extras were available. She was just very quiet about asking.
I got my Shawnee time because I had a thing for Jessica Simpson and she was very close in profile. I also got HJ from Dana (tall amason) and later Frankie / Ryan. Frankie was so upfront: No hello or hi, just came up to me. "you want a handjob for $40?
Anyone know if Ashton at HT did extras, or was I wrong.
[QUOTE=Velcrolio;6491094]Oh no, different Honey. The Honey I'm talking about was Chinese, and according to a mutual friend she was pretty highly educated. I got that impression as well from our one email exchange. Getting laps with her was like dropping molly for the first time. When I asked her for a VIP, I had no idea what she'd do or not do. But really, almost no girls didn't do, just Eve and a few chicks who eventually went to the dark side after all. That was the difference between HT and the other HM clubs--you couldn't be sure anywhere else, not even at DVCOI with the 'for privacy just move the fake tree in front of the cubicle entrance' VIP area. At Hawaii, if a girl showed up, she showed up to f*ck. There's one funny exception to that, but that one's too obscure even for me.[/QUOTE]
There was a Thai dancer that went by Honey that worked at the Rhino then Hawaii Theater? Was that location always called Hawaii Theater? For some reason I thought it was called something else before it closed shrug. I think we're still friends on Instagram let me check LOL. I wouldn't say she was part of The Crew but she definitely was friendly with Alyssa and all the girls.
[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;6491482]There was a Thai dancer that went by Honey that worked at the Rhino then Hawaii Theater? Was that location always called Hawaii Theater? For some reason I thought it was called something else before it closed shrug. I think we're still friends on Instagram let me check LOL. I wouldn't say she was part of The Crew but she definitely was friendly with Alyssa and all the girls.[/QUOTE]Never mind I just remembered the name, Monarchs.
[QUOTE=Velcrolio;6490501]PelicanT99 doesn't have to fret. He won't be seeing any more posts by me. I'm fine being put on 'ignore' by anyone.[/QUOTE]Haha, does he thinks putting me on ignore means I don't see HIS posts? I really don't care if and what he writes, I was just making a joke about the Alyssa-obsessed.
And even though I'm an old codger now, I just prefer reading about my next conquest than waxing over "glory days. " But different strokes, man; "you be you" LOL.
Tatum is certainly a hottie, but I've had no luck getting anything; being direct often gets me a face like she ate a lemon. Perhaps others have more luck.
Caught her when she first started a year or so ago and enjoyed good prices for a long time until one day she told me some kid paid her almost damn near a grand for the same services the night before and asked if I would do the same. And that's when I moved on to the next one. Perhaps worth a try again LOL.
[QUOTE=Jokerx27;6486792]So I was a little worried about the previous reports she had massive GPS, but thought she was cute so took the dive.
We talked a bit at the chairs, and eventually we talked VIP. She tried to get me to the actual rooms with a door, told her I was on a budget and curtain was it for the $140 or whatever it was.
We got back and I told her I only had $180 left, when she started at like $300 for CFS. She took the $180 for CFS and seemed fine with it. Really chill girl, I was pretty content with my time with her. She stayed afterwards and chatted a bit while we both cleaned up and such. Not rushed, beyond the need to get done in the VIP time limit and such. For those that were saying she had major GPS, I just wanted to say that I didn't really get that vibe from her.[/QUOTE]
Guys beware. Last night I experienced something that didn't quite anger me but irritated me to the point where I left a club without spending money. Some of these girls are now trying to charge a "rejection fee" if they sit with you and you do not buy a dance. Now normally if a girl sits with me and chats I'll pay her for her time. However these girls explicitly used the term rejection fee and asked for $5 minimum.
[QUOTE=SelectaH87;6494829]Guys beware. Last night I experienced something that didn't quite anger me but irritated me to the point where I left a club without spending money. Some of these girls are now trying to charge a "rejection fee" if they sit with you and you do not buy a dance. Now normally if a girl sits with me and chats I'll pay her for her time. However these girls explicitly used the term rejection fee and asked for $5 minimum.[/QUOTE]What club was this?
[QUOTE=SelectaH87;6494829]Guys beware. Last night I experienced something that didn't quite anger me but irritated me to the point where I left a club without spending money. Some of these girls are now trying to charge a "rejection fee" if they sit with you and you do not buy a dance. Now normally if a girl sits with me and chats I'll pay her for her time. However these girls explicitly used the term rejection fee and asked for $5 minimum.[/QUOTE]This happened to me at Sahara just recently. I told that ***** that I didn't force you to sit and converse. She proceeded to tell me that karma is a *****.
[QUOTE=SelectaH87;6494829]Guys beware. Last night I experienced something that didn't quite anger me but irritated me to the point where I left a club without spending money. Some of these girls are now trying to charge a "rejection fee" if they sit with you and you do not buy a dance. Now normally if a girl sits with me and chats I'll pay her for her time. However these girls explicitly used the term rejection fee and asked for $5 minimum.[/QUOTE]I've had dancers ask me for a tip because she sat with me. I just say no. That's ridiculous. Some get pissy about it. But so what? Don't be intimidated by girls in their underwear.
[QUOTE=SelectaH87;6494829]Guys beware. Last night I experienced something that didn't quite anger me but irritated me to the point where I left a club without spending money. Some of these girls are now trying to charge a "rejection fee" if they sit with you and you do not buy a dance. Now normally if a girl sits with me and chats I'll pay her for her time. However these girls explicitly used the term rejection fee and asked for $5 minimum.[/QUOTE]Sheesh sorry you had to go through that. Very creative and enterprising of them that's for sure.
If you're so inclined, name names and point fingers!
Whenever I feel like not talking / get a bad vibe / realize it's a dancer with a bad reputation / annoyed by a dancer, my go-to is a polite "sorry I don't want to waste your time but I'm actually waiting for someone right now. " Most of these girls don't want to step on each others' toes, so they'll leave you alone.