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[QUOTE=Erikleewashdc;6672278]Was there ever a website named Happy Together or Happy something? I know they ran out of that APT building in Moasic which was one of the target apartments in the law doc.[/QUOTE]Multiple agencies have used that building. The only one targeted in this investigation was BEG.
[QUOTE=JsppsgFun4;6671669][URL]www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/feds-bust-high-end-bothel-1234873115/amp/[/URL]
Interesting take from a former federal prosecutor. Hinting at what he believes is the underlying reasons behind what happened yesterday.[/QUOTE]Maybe, but seems more likely to go the way of the Epstein case, which had far more prominent clientele and actual trafficking, not just what passes for it in dramatic news conferences.
Went to BEG like 2-3 weeks ago and used Zelle. I am an idiot.
[QUOTE=DmvMack;6672343]Multiple agencies have used that building. The only one targeted in this investigation was BEG.[/QUOTE]The affidavit seemed to indicate most of the surveillance took place in MA. That would've really been something had everyone gotten swept up in one fell swoop. Wonder which state the confidential source was busted in, and if she was an owner or a player, so to speak.
[QUOTE=BallerTbakflsl;6672358]Went to BEG like 2-3 weeks ago and used Zelle. I am an idiot.[/QUOTE]Relax don't get worked up over it. The only thing that will reduce your fears is time.
Ok dudes. I notice my favorite NOVA place already clean up the act and takes the prices and other shit like measurement off the site. Next things we knows business tank and they pull up stakes and head outs like K-pops. Shit. NYC and Montreal too far for weekly bangs.
So, anybody had Ada yet? Support your local agency LOL. PM is OK.
Just asking. Curios. Hypothetically.
[QUOTE=NightHawk1967;6672242]The savior part of this bust be really lame. I be loving these gals for long time and I never ever think they be "slaves" like DHS call them in the news conference. They in it for the green for sure and that it. LE know this too.[/QUOTE]I liked the part in the document where they claim that one of the owners was 'locking' the door when he left apartments as a way to keep the girls locked in and act as implicit threat to work. Dude was just probably just locking the door to be extra safe about someone randomly walking in without the girl's permission. The cops had to stretch so hard to try and point to some sort of coercion and make it look like they actually did something good.
[QUOTE=Derilious89;6672474]I liked the part in the document where they claim that one of the owners was 'locking' the door when he left apartments as a way to keep the girls locked in and act as implicit threat to work. Dude was just probably just locking the door to be extra safe about someone randomly walking in without the girl's permission. The cops had to stretch so hard to try and point to some sort of coercion and make it look like they actually did something good.[/QUOTE]That lockdown shit be real funny. I not do BEG, but I beens to so many other place where I knows the gals is free as birds.
I bang a gal in a NYC joint in summer and was nearby the shop next day at Starbucks waiting to do another gal. Lo and behold first gal walks in shop laughing and acting like a princess with another working gal and order a frap. She look real good in street clothes and I just about say her "hi baby, want to date?" but I had to get to other date LOL.
Another time a gal gave me digits and lo and behold we fuck all week for discount at my hotel. I read all other kinds of stories like this. These gals not on lockdown for sure. Just like weed and booze this hobby need be legal.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;6672103]Things that used to be classified as garden variety prostitution or pimping have gained new life, and been elevated in status, using the trafficking label. That's not to say that real trafficking doesn't exist, only that the label is now being used as a pretext to turn what would previously have been shrugged over into an "OMG, this is horrible" kind of thing.
There is a shitload of state and federal dollars sloshing around and directed at task forces and other so-called anti-trafficking efforts. Prosecutions like this one get lots of publicity and ensure the flow of public money never dries up.
Your tax dollars at work! (sarc off).[/QUOTE]Good point, JmSuttr. Cops, do-gooders, and other activists like to slap the "trafficking" label on not only prostitution but porn these days, even if everyone involved is participating voluntarily and without coercion. It's a good way to keep the federal, state, and private foundation grants coming in.
Ideally the best solution is to legalize the hobby. There's no reason the government should prosecute consenting adults' activities simply because an exchange of money is involved. But that would require a willingness on the part of officeholders to change the laws against the hobby. That could still be a career-killer even with the changes in the public's attitudes toward sex over the last few decades.
By the way, it's good to see you posting again.
This is why I don't like and avoid screenings and photos. The last thing ya want is them getting access to a database of clients after busting a group and being on it.
If you share info use fake photos, burners, and never give real name/job/etc. Be safe boys! My personal logic that always pisses them off... Never give you real information to some 304 that won't give you her real first name.
What sucks is work was sending me up this weekend but I guess it's better to happen before I head up than during. Be safe boys!
[QUOTE=TheBdn0128;6670012][URL]https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/feds-to-announce-sophisticated-high-end-brothel-network-bust-in-mass-va/3184748/[/URL]
FYI, taking a break![/QUOTE]
Only a matter of time before this all blows over. The owners will likely not face any jail time, at least not for prostitution or human trafficking. Just look at Wikipedia on Prostitution in the US: "Prostitution is illegal in the vast majority of the United States as a result of state laws rather than federal laws". There's no reason for federal agencies, like the DOJ and DHS, to get involved with suspected prostitution, as that's relegated to the state level. So now all they've got is human trafficking. But good luck getting those Korean women to testify. It should be noted that not a single news article mentioned that the authorities took these Asian women in for questioning. When you don't even have your main source of evidence in human trafficking cases (in this case, the women), what else have you got? Not much, so the cases will likely be tossed.
At best, they can probably hit the owners with money laundering or racketeering. So, some jail time is possible. But not much.
New agencies will pop up using different names. Probably run by the same people.
People on the so-called client list are safe. Having your name on a list is not evidence of a crime committed. Even sending text messages discussing payment for sex is not sufficient. They would need to catch you in the act to prove you engaged in prostitution. The agencies are not sting operations. There are no cameras set up inside the apartments.
One good thing that might come out of this is that we all collectively wake up and refuse to comply with these unreasonable screening requirements. If we refuse to hand over our PII to these agencies, they will stop requiring it. They have no legitimate need for our PII. But yet they do need our business, and will adapt to more reasonable screening like in years past.
Another observation. The affidavit says that surveillance has gone on for months and that they've interviewed 20 mongers. But yet no intel on this was reported. Makes me wonder how many investigations are currently going on against agencies, and how many guys are being flipped by the feds right now on agencies that are still operating. If you see something, say something!
Also, have you noticed that sometimes these agencies bring it on themselves. One agency has papasan in the hallway directing mongers. As I just said, the residents of that building might see something and also say something.
[QUOTE=Finitts;6672235]Hope everyone that just gave away their PII stops freaking out. You already gave it up, can't get it back from those people. Learn your lesson and move on.
P.S.-if you really think the agencies "erased" your PII after the verification. Hahahahaha sure they did.[/QUOTE]I recently tied to screen with DS and they asked me for numerous pieces of PII and I declined. The only reason I can think why they ask for so much personal info is that it gives them a level of power over you because you cannot tell how a guy is going to behave when he's alone with a girl based on his DL, his job, etc. The best way to screen to see if he's well behaved is via other ladies he's seen. Co-sign on the comment that if we collectively refuse to give up PII they'll be forced to stop asking for it or they'll go out of business; but unfortunately there will also be a few weak links in the hobby chain that will cave and send it thus ruining it for everyone.
[URL]https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/boston-brothel-mass-sex-trafficking/3186274/[/URL]
"But who those sex buyers were remained a mystery on Thursday. Federal authorities were mum on the subject at the news conference, saying that any arrests for the purchase of sex would happen at the state level. ".
That may be a dash of morning comfort for many of you. Steve Descano is the total opposite of a tough on crime "community morals" crusader. Hell, he may congratulate some of you for being charitable to the ladies. I jest, but you get my point.