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[QUOTE=Polishedbronze;1266714]Does anyone know if Harley is officially retired?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Fred Zeppelin;1266808]I don't think "retired" is exactly the right word.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mundane; 1266864]Re·tired.
Adjective
1. Having left one's job and ceased to work.
2. (of a place) Quiet and secluded; not seen or frequented by many people.[/QUOTE]As of today, she's no longer listed as a member of the population at our Uncle's house.
[QUOTE=Knox Dew; 1266393]First, TwoPupPop, sorry to hear about your problem with Bella.
I have seen Bella (from tryshaitoday) fame, about 5 times over the last couple of years, and was pissed when I read your review.
I emailed her and questioned her about it, and she did confirm that about 15-20 minutes into she had an emergency and had to cancel.
She explained about her sister being drunk on the side of the road somewhere and that she needed to go get her.
I decided to give her one more shot, and we had the opportunity to meet a few minutes ago in West Knox at her new in call location. I was nervous, even thought I had seen her many times. She was alone, no pimp / protection. In sight. She opened the door in a nice sundress and I went in.
She never looked at or even picked up the donation. We hugged, talked a little, started LFK then DFK, then clothes fell off magically.
Nice tight body, could be a coed on UT campus any day. Started with a nice BBBJ, then DATY with digits, cover came on then Cowgirl, doggie and mish to Round 1 ended all over her awesome nipples.
Cleanup, talking a little and she started touching me lightly. Then she got me hard and took me in her mouth again. Same positions, ended on her ass.
She is a very shy, not very talkative provider. Obvioously, after 2Pup's problems, YMMV.
I will repeat, and she is offering some pretty good specials right now (150 hour for limited time)
Just wanted to share my experience.
Good luck and stay safe.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Beaux;1266506]I agree completely with Knox Dew's assessment of Bella Che. I have seen her many, many times and lately as well. She's just too shy for me though but I've never had any kind of problem like 2Pup did.[/QUOTE]Wish I could buy it, but the fact that another guy showed up & went into the room WITH HER less than 5 minutes after I was "expelled", WHILE I WAS STILL THERE TALKING TO HER PIMP, and his "excuse" was that she made an appointment without checking with him first, and that they hadn't gotten to do the appropriate screening (this after I offered refs via text when setting up the appt) all points to something less innocent than her story. Then he threatened to damage my car (WTF?) and to make my identity public.
To me, it just doesn't add up. She was very attractive and seemed very sweet, and I don't know why I was singled out, but the picture that I'm getting is I was set up to be ripped off. I wish I could say I forgive her, she could make it up to me, etc. And then I could rescind those reviews, but there's not a chance in hell I'm going near them again.
I had a similar experience as 2Pup did with Bella Che. First off she was advertising "two for one" special to be used consecutively or at a later date. My first date was ok, though she did have a person come to the door to give her what appeared to be pills as soon as she got the donation.
A week later I decided to try the second half of the "special" and being a bit suspicious and not wanting to get told later, later, later on the time I did not specify until I was there that it was for the follow up visit. Very promptly she had a Black male and a White male in the room demanding money, threatening to take pictures, bodily harm, and most laughable to call the police. Well I had taken only 20 into the room so when another knock came on the door I quickly retreated.
She definitely is not independent and I would highly recommend everyone stay away. Though as other reviewers have stated they had different experiences. YMMV.
Thanks guys Deaux and Knox Dew for speaking up for me. And thank you Knox Dew for trusting your instincts and seeing me after you read the ONE bad review I have ever seen in the 3 years of reviews I have obtained while being a high-end provider.
I love my job and take it quite serious. My goal is to always make my friends whom come to see me feel so good and safe that they return time and time again. This is a profession for me one inwhich I must take serious or I can't pay my bills.
As far as the bad review goes I will say just this:
1) It was admitted by the reviewer that I offered a rain check, which seems quite confusing since the review described me as a rip-off. Offerrering a rain check yet ripping off someone is an oxymoron.
2) The session was just a half hour appointment. 30 mins, and for only a small small donation was asked for, and there was not much of any reference checking so the appointment was made very last minute to appease the reviewer. And the reviewer admits the session was canceled 20 mins into the appointment. That means only 10 mins was left out. And yet I still offered to give a rain check. Also 20 mins into any appointment with me means that many good and wonderful things had already been going on, which means I was in my bday suit and was very much into the act of pleasing the reviewer for a whole 20 mins. I don't even offer a half hour appt on my website being most upscale clients don't do 30 mins or ask for it, thinking that asking the provider would insult her to ask for a 30 min appt, so I don't even have a 30 min appt time nor rate listed on my site and my regular rate is 300 roses for an hour and yet I have been offering amazing specials to accomidate many new guys that couldn't see me before.
3) I don't have a BF nor muscle or a PIMP. I run the referral service tryshaitoday (dot) com where several girls work with me. And the guys that were at the location I was at, which I do admit was low class and I am glad to be out of that area, but the guys that actually live in that area tried to bully me to pay them for me working in that area and they tried to act like my protection without my consent. So the conversation that happened outside of my door when the appt ended had nothing to do with me and I believe the anger between the reviewer toward the other men who tried to be forceful with him was taken out on me hence the bad review against me, a very shy sweet girl who would never rob someone especially knowing for 3 years how reviews work and I wouldn't get away with it, got to be labeled a rip-off. But thank you to my great friends to know to read between the lines and know me well enogh to know I am not like that.
P. S-Stella Payge did work for my referral service that I now own. She was let go because she was trying to up-sell services to our clients behind our back. And please do not let anything she does now or has done in the past 3 years as a reflection of us at S. H. A. I. Or against myself BELLA. [blue][Commercial Message deleted by Admin][/blue]
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My experience was also bad. I made an appt with her over email and text, but never ended up even seeing her. Instead, I got robbed by "her driver".
[QUOTE=Fred Zeppelin;1266808]I don't think "retired" is exactly the right word.[/QUOTE]LOL agreed Fred. I'd say sidetracked for a while
[QUOTE=TryShaiToday; 1267258]Thanks guys Deaux and Knox Dew for speaking up for me. And thank you Knox Dew for trusting your instincts and seeing me after you read the ONE bad review I have ever seen in the 3 years of reviews I have obtained while being a high-end provider.
I love my job and take it quite serious. My goal is to always make my friends whom come to see me feel so good and safe that they return time and time again. This is a profession for me one inwhich I must take serious or I can't pay my bills.
As far as the bad review goes I will say just this:
1) It was admitted by the reviewer that I offered a rain check, which seems quite confusing since the review described me as a rip-off. Offerrering a rain check yet ripping off someone is an oxymoron.
2) The session was just a half hour appointment. 30 mins, and for only a small small donation was asked for, and there was not much of any reference checking so the appointment was made very last minute to appease the reviewer. And the reviewer admits the session was canceled 20 mins into the appointment. That means only 10 mins was left out. And yet I still offered to give a rain check. Also 20 mins into any appointment with me means that many good and wonderful things had already been going on, which means I was in my bday suit and was very much into the act of pleasing the reviewer for a whole 20 mins. I don't even offer a half hour appt on my website being most upscale clients don't do 30 mins or ask for it, thinking that asking the provider would insult her to ask for a 30 min appt, so I don't even have a 30 min appt time nor rate listed on my site and my regular rate is 300 roses for an hour and yet I have been offering amazing specials to accomidate many new guys that couldn't see me before.
3) I don't have a BF nor muscle or a PIMP. I run the referral service tryshaitoday (dot) com where several girls work with me. And the guys that were at the location I was at, which I do admit was low class and I am glad to be out of that area, but the guys that actually live in that area tried to bully me to pay them for me working in that area and they tried to act like my protection without my consent. So the conversation that happened outside of my door when the appt ended had nothing to do with me and I believe the anger between the reviewer toward the other men who tried to be forceful with him was taken out on me hence the bad review against me, a very shy sweet girl who would never rob someone especially knowing for 3 years how reviews work and I wouldn't get away with it, got to be labeled a rip-off. But thank you to my great friends to know to read between the lines and know me well enogh to know I am not like that.
P. S-Stella Payge did work for my referral service that I now own. She was let go because she was trying to up-sell services to our clients behind our back. And please do not let anything she does now or has done in the past 3 years as a reflection of us at S. H. A. I. Or against myself BELLA. [blue][Commercial Message deleted by Admin][/blue]
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Account for locals in the area. Or other tenants at the establishment. But I'm going to have to side with Pup on this one.
Things like that make us mongers really really leary about seeing providers who renig on their offers as advertised.
One side note. If you knew these guys were giving you trouble. Why didn't you at least tell your client BEFORE he arrived to face the problem?
Or were the dollar signs clouding your memory of them being there? And you put him at risk to make sure you got his hobby funds?
Just a thought.
Sharky
[QUOTE=Sharky2; 1267355]Sorry Bella. I've been a part of this forum for quite some time. And you've got to admit. It is kind of shady with the muscle at the door. I realize alot of providers can't.
Account for locals in the area. Or other tenants at the establishment. But I'm going to have to side with Pup on this one.
Things like that make us mongers really really leary about seeing providers who renig on their offers as advertised.
One side note. If you knew these guys were giving you trouble. Why didn't you at least tell your client BEFORE he arrived to face the problem?
Or were the dollar signs clouding your memory of them being there? And you put him at risk to make sure you got his hobby funds?
Just a thought.
Sharky[/QUOTE]This girl needs to make it up to pup before she gets and biz from anyone on this board.
[QUOTE=Knox Dew; 1266393]First, TwoPupPop, sorry to hear about your problem with Bella.
I have seen Bella (from tryshaitoday) fame, about 5 times over the last couple of years, and was pissed when I read your review.
I emailed her and questioned her about it, and she did confirm that about 15-20 minutes into she had an emergency and had to cancel.
She explained about her sister being drunk on the side of the road somewhere and that she needed to go get her.
I decided to give her one more shot, and we had the opportunity to meet a few minutes ago in West Knox at her new in call location. I was nervous, even thought I had seen her many times. She was alone, no pimp / protection. In sight. She opened the door in a nice sundress and I went in.
She never looked at or even picked up the donation. We hugged, talked a little, started LFK then DFK, then clothes fell off magically.
Nice tight body, could be a coed on UT campus any day. Started with a nice BBBJ, then DATY with digits, cover came on then Cowgirl, doggie and mish to Round 1 ended all over her awesome nipples.
Cleanup, talking a little and she started touching me lightly. Then she got me hard and took me in her mouth again. Same positions, ended on her ass.
She is a very shy, not very talkative provider. Obvioously, after 2Pup's problems, YMMV.
I will repeat, and she is offering some pretty good specials right now (150 hour for limited time)
Just wanted to share my experience.
Good luck and stay safe.[/QUOTE]Damnit now I don't know what to do. I was planning on seeing Bella (of tryshaitoday) this weekend. But to tell you the truth Pups (who's opinion I trust) experience scares the hell out of me. But on the other hand, Knox has different times with her and I trust his opinion as well. Could she have went downhill that fast from the last time Knox saw her? I totally agree that the majority of the incident lays on Bella's shoulders and agree that if she had that kind of "company", whether with her or not, hanging around her door she should have warned her client. Better yet completely left that dive and got another hotel somewhere else. Seriously, you would have been out 50 bucks for another room and saved yourself and us all this hassle. On the other hand us as clients KNOW. Never go to a seedy dive no-tel to meet ANYONE, I don't care how good looking she is. And Bella you are hot, so maybe its another example of the little head doing the thinking. Just saying (don't get mad Pup). Luv ya. LOL. Just MHO. Hound
I know Tsuki was getting some good reports a couple months ago but I haven't saw anything on her recently and was wanting to see her this week. Anyone see her recently. PM details if you wish.
Thanks Hound
[QUOTE=Sexhoundtn2; 1267452]I know Tsuki was getting some good reports a couple months ago but I haven't saw anything on her recently and was wanting to see her this week. Anyone see her recently. PM details if you wish.
Thanks Hound[/QUOTE]I would appreciate also, either here or PM. I tried to make an appt with her a few weeks ago, but she never picked up & her voicemail was jammed. Is it better to use email?
[QUOTE=Sexhoundtn2;1267441]Damnit now I don't know what to do. I was planning on seeing Bella (of tryshaitoday) this weekend. But to tell you the truth Pups (who's opinion I trust) experience scares the hell out of me. But on the other hand, Knox has different times with her and I trust his opinion as well. Could she have went downhill that fast from the last time Knox saw her? I totally agree that the majority of the incident lays on Bella's shoulders and agree that if she had that kind of "company", whether with her or not, hanging around her door she should have warned her client. Better yet completely left that dive and got another hotel somewhere else. Seriously, you would have been out 50 bucks for another room and saved yourself and us all this hassle. On the other hand us as clients KNOW. Never go to a seedy dive no-tel to meet ANYONE, I don't care how good looking she is. And Bella you are hot, so maybe its another example of the little head doing the thinking. Just saying (don't get mad Pup). Luv ya. LOL. Just MHO. Hound[/QUOTE]The risk isn't worth it and her story is full of holes. TwoPup has no reason to lie about what happened and she has every rea$on to change the facts. It is a fact that she is working for the guy that runs Tryshiat (or whatever it's called) and he is more than likely the guy that threatened TwoPup. Do some Google searching on the business for some interesting reading.
They may be trying to go legit again and give good service, but who knows when they will go crazy and do something like this again? If her pu*why is worth that risk to you. Go for it. I'll pass.
Just dreamed of Bella this am and once again, no problems at all. Have seen her 5-6 times recently without any concerns at all. I can't challenge what others have said (wasn't there and didn't see what happened) but
All my experiences with her have been good and totally trouble free. Just FYI.
TwoPup is a very reputable member who doesn't leave a negative review unless its warranted. I have no doubt his review is factually accurate. Somebody's not being completely honest and I'm confident that its not TwoPup. Throw in the provider's cheap shot at mongers who'd rather not drop $$$ in this economy, with all the top quality lower cost options avaiable and I say let the free market forces take care of this matter.
[QUOTE=Mundane; 1267754]The risk isn't worth it and her story is full of holes. TwoPup has no reason to lie about what happened and she has every rea$on to change the facts. It is a fact that she is working for the guy that runs Tryshiat (or whatever it's called) and he is more than likely the guy that threatened TwoPup. Do some Google searching on the business for some interesting reading.
They may be trying to go legit again and give good service, but who knows when they will go crazy and do something like this again? If her pu*why is worth that risk to you. Go for it. I'll pass.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TryShaiToday; 1267258]As far as the bad review goes I will say just this:
1) It was admitted by the reviewer that I offered a rain check, which seems quite confusing since the review described me as a rip-off. Offerrering a rain check yet ripping off someone is an oxymoron.
2) The session was just a half hour appointment. 30 mins, and for only a small small donation was asked for, and there was not much of any reference checking so the appointment was made very last minute to appease the reviewer. And the reviewer admits the session was canceled 20 mins into the appointment. That means only 10 mins was left out. And yet I still offered to give a rain check. Also 20 mins into any appointment with me means that many good and wonderful things had already been going on, which means I was in my bday suit and was very much into the act of pleasing the reviewer for a whole 20 mins.[/QUOTE]I find it revealing that this poster tries to make a point about what TPP "admitted to" regarding those 20 minutes of "good and wonderful things" and about a raincheck "offer". My prospective to-do list just got shorter.
[QUOTE=TwoPupPop; 1240116]It was 20 minutes into the appointment before she "finished her makeup".5 minutes later, the room phone rang. Supposedly her "sister" telling her she had to call her "friend" in 3 minutes. She called her back (now we're IN the appointment!) , and then says she has to go out to take care of a problem "Sorry. This NEVER happens".
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After about 10 minutes of very unsatisfying conversation during which he tells me that he hadn't gotten to properly screen me and it wasn't his fault that the young lady scheduled something improperly on HIS phone, and threatened to damage my car and post pics of me and my car, I finally left. Older and hopefully a little wiser, definitely poorer. His theory is that he "Offered a raincheck, so I shouldn't feel ripped off".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Curt828;1267841]I find it revealing that this poster tries to make a point about what TPP "admitted to" regarding those 20 minutes of "good and wonderful things" and about a raincheck "offer". My prospective to-do list just got shorter.[/QUOTE]Woudln't you hate to leave after 20 min of good and wonderful things, uless you got the happy wonderful thing before you were asked to leave. Rain check or not, that's got to sting.
Anyone have anything good, bad, indiferent to say about Shaynna or Erica? They have been advertising.
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Thanks, PM me if you wish.
I hate to have to write this, but I must. Great girl, awful management. Twopup's and others experience follow the same MO as I experienced. Bella is fabulous, but she does not run the show. It is all about the money with her management and threats of violence, etc is the only way they will "resolve" a misunderstanding.
Sorry Bella.
[QUOTE=TwoPupPop; 1240116]Hadn't seen any reviews on this one on the boards:
[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/2-for-1-with-nationally-reviewed-adult-video-star-23/4049843[/url]
But this ad caught my eye. I'd been kinda watching her ads and considering taking this plunge, and with a "2 for 1" offer, decided to TOFTT. Reviews on another site were a bit dated, but good, and the website pics looked really good. We texted back and forth a bit, and set up an appointment in W. Knoxville. When I arrived was when things started to go downhill; sitting 2 doors down from her room was a guy (presumed he might be her "protection". Probably should have just driven on by, and now wish I had). Knocked on her door, and she let me in the room. Here's the good. VERY pretty young lady, and she seemed very sweet. Now the bad. It was 20 minutes into the appointment before she "finished her makeup".5 minutes later, the room phone rang. Supposedly her "sister" telling her she had to call her "friend" in 3 minutes. She called her back (now we're IN the appointment!) , and then says she has to go out to take care of a problem "Sorry. This NEVER happens". I took my clothes and went to the bathroom, and 3 minutes later, she comes back in and says "Sorry. Can we reschedule?". Sure. Fine. While I'm putting my shoes on, I here her say "No. You don't have to get your gun" to someone outside (guessing it's the pimp again). I asked her for the donation back, and she says I don't have it. He does, pointing to the aforementioned guy.
So, stupidly, I walk over and say."I understand you're the guy with the money" and he says "Did you just walk up on me?" and I said "Yeah. I did".
Long story short. After about 10 minutes of very unsatisfying conversation during which he tells me that he hadn't gotten to properly screen me and it wasn't his fault that the young lady scheduled something improperly on HIS phone, and threatened to damage my car and post pics of me and my car, I finally left. Older and hopefully a little wiser, definitely poorer. His theory is that he "Offered a raincheck, so I shouldn't feel ripped off". Yeah, right.
So. If you're looking to get ripped off. Have at it. Makes me sad.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TwoPupPop;1241383]You pretty much hit the nail on the head. (edited for length) Am I completely off base here? If this was the first time you had ever seen a particular provider, and you were treated this way (prior to the pimp issue) , would you have walked away without your money and a promise of a "reschedule"? If this was a girl I had seen before and knew, sure, that might have been okay. But with someone I had never seen before? That's like saying. Here, give me money. Now go on your way. Thanks for the money.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Howard865; 1267206]I had a similar experience as 2Pup did with Bella Che. First off she was advertising "two for one" special to be used consecutively or at a later date. My first date was ok, though she did have a person come to the door to give her what appeared to be pills as soon as she got the donation.
A week later I decided to try the second half of the "special" and being a bit suspicious and not wanting to get told later, later, later on the time I did not specify until I was there that it was for the follow up visit. Very promptly she had a Black male and a White male in the room demanding money, threatening to take pictures, bodily harm, and most laughable to call the police. Well I had taken only 20 into the room so when another knock came on the door I quickly retreated.
She definitely is not independent and I would highly recommend everyone stay away. Though as other reviewers have stated they had different experiences. YMMV.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TryShaiToday; 1267258]Thanks guys Deaux and Knox Dew for speaking up for me. And thank you Knox Dew for trusting your instincts and seeing me after you read the ONE bad review I have ever seen in the 3 years of reviews I have obtained while being a high-end provider.
I love my job and take it quite serious. My goal is to always make my friends whom come to see me feel so good and safe that they return time and time again. This is a profession for me one inwhich I must take serious or I can't pay my bills.
As far as the bad review goes I will say just this:
1) It was admitted by the reviewer that I offered a rain check, which seems quite confusing since the review described me as a rip-off. Offerrering a rain check yet ripping off someone is an oxymoron.
2) The session was just a half hour appointment. 30 mins, and for only a small small donation was asked for, and there was not much of any reference checking so the appointment was made very last minute to appease the reviewer. And the reviewer admits the session was canceled 20 mins into the appointment. That means only 10 mins was left out. And yet I still offered to give a rain check. Also 20 mins into any appointment with me means that many good and wonderful things had already been going on, which means I was in my bday suit and was very much into the act of pleasing the reviewer for a whole 20 mins. I don't even offer a half hour appt on my website being most upscale clients don't do 30 mins or ask for it, thinking that asking the provider would insult her to ask for a 30 min appt, so I don't even have a 30 min appt time nor rate listed on my site and my regular rate is 300 roses for an hour and yet I have been offering amazing specials to accomidate many new guys that couldn't see me before.
3) I don't have a BF nor muscle or a PIMP. I run the referral service tryshaitoday (dot) com where several girls work with me. And the guys that were at the location I was at, which I do admit was low class and I am glad to be out of that area, but the guys that actually live in that area tried to bully me to pay them for me working in that area and they tried to act like my protection without my consent. So the conversation that happened outside of my door when the appt ended had nothing to do with me and I believe the anger between the reviewer toward the other men who tried to be forceful with him was taken out on me hence the bad review against me, a very shy sweet girl who would never rob someone especially knowing for 3 years how reviews work and I wouldn't get away with it, got to be labeled a rip-off. But thank you to my great friends to know to read between the lines and know me well enogh to know I am not like that.
P. S-Stella Payge did work for my referral service that I now own. She was let go because she was trying to up-sell services to our clients behind our back. And please do not let anything she does now or has done in the past 3 years as a reflection of us at S. H. A. I. Or against myself BELLA. [blue][Commercial Message deleted by Admin][/blue]
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If these "guys that actually live in that area tried to bully me to pay them for me working in that area and they tried to act like my protection without my consent" weren't actually with you (for the record, there was only 1 guy) , then why did you promptly turn over my donation to him? You were the one that told me that the guy outside had the money.
Also, the guy that threatened me, Marcus Washington, if you Google search on his name and tryshai, he is listed as the owner of the domain.
And finally, I asked the question in one of the posts above: "Am I completely off base here? If this was the first time you had ever seen a particular provider, and you were treated this way (prior to the pimp issue) , would you have walked away without your money and a promise of a "reschedule"? If this was a girl I had seen before and knew, sure, that might have been okay. But with someone I had never seen before? That's like saying. Here, give me money. Now go on your way. Thanks for the money." Howard865's subsequent post points out exactly why I wasn't comfortable with the "raincheck". What do you think you are, KMart? Even there, with a raincheck, they don't take your money until you actually get the goods that you got the raincheck on!
Bottom line, as I said before, I don't know why I was apparently singled out for this, but it makes me sad, since you do have lots of positive reviews. My review was to inform the others on the board about what happened, as a warning. If they've seen you several times before and enjoyed your company with no problems, great, I hope things continue that way for them, and that they don't have any problems. If they've never seen you before, they may want to think twice; they may have a great time, but they could also run into the type problem that I had (or worse). I know I won't ever be back, especially when we have a number of providers in Knoxville that I have met and will happily visit again; I don't need the kind of grief I got from my experience with your organization.
[QUOTE=PinkFloyd;1267784]TwoPup is a very reputable member who doesn't leave a negative review unless its warranted. I have no doubt his review is factually accurate. Somebody's not being completely honest and I'm confident that its not TwoPup. Throw in the provider's cheap shot at mongers who'd rather not drop $$$ in this economy, with all the top quality lower cost options avaiable and I say let the free market forces take care of this matter.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with PinkFloyd, Mundane and others about Pups reputation and contributions to this board. I for one do believe his account of the incident. Especially after a couple of PM's I received from other members that have not openly voiced their thoughts or experiences on the board. It appears that others are familiar with her Muscle / Pimp even to the point of knowing him by name. It is truly ashamed that someone of Bella's form could fall to the place of being pimped by the likes of Mr. MW (name with held to protect the innocent. LOL) Bella honey you could have done just fine without your muscle and whatever it is that he provides you. Anybody that is a serious monger reads this board (trust me, I read it for 2 years before joining and posting). I would think your trustworthiness may well be ruined. I know your off my list for sure.
P. S. I know this may offend at least a couple of my fellow mongers on here. Sorry. Just MHO.
[QUOTE=TwoPupPop; 1267105]Wish I could buy it, but the fact that another guy showed up & went into the room WITH HER less than 5 minutes after I was "expelled", WHILE I WAS STILL THERE TALKING TO HER PIMP, and his "excuse" was that she made an appointment without checking with him first, and that they hadn't gotten to do the appropriate screening (this after I offered refs via text when setting up the appt) all points to something less innocent than her story. Then he threatened to damage my car (WTF?) and to make my identity public.
To me, it just doesn't add up. She was very attractive and seemed very sweet, and I don't know why I was singled out, but the picture that I'm getting is I was set up to be ripped off. I wish I could say I forgive her, she could make it up to me, etc. And then I could rescind those reviews, but there's not a chance in hell I'm going near them again.[/QUOTE]Can't really blame you twopup. If it happened to me, I would be just as pissed. I didn't ask too many questions, didn't want to ruin my dream. I havebeen taken like that twice in my 25-20 years of mongering. It hurts like a bi-atch
, and never a good explanation. When you play with fire, eventually we all get burned. Sorry it happened to you, but don't give up, there is always some fresh girl on the horizon.
[QUOTE=PinkFloyd;1267784]TwoPup is a very reputable member who doesn't leave a negative review unless its warranted. I have no doubt his review is factually accurate. Somebody's not being completely honest and I'm confident that its not TwoPup. Throw in the provider's cheap shot at mongers who'd rather not drop $$$ in this economy, with all the top quality lower cost options avaiable and I say let the free market forces take care of this matter.[/QUOTE]Pinkfloyd, I don't disagree with TwoPup's experience, and I'm sure it was terrible. I was just sharing my experience that I had AFTER TwoPup's nightmare appointment. As for $$$, not even close to that price. I don't think I ever paid more than $$, and have pad $.5 when she runs specials.
If you are saying I "am not being completely honest", I'm sorry you feel that way. Just no reason to lie if you are posting anonymously.
I guess to each his own.
I'm not accusing you of dishonesty at all Dew, but I don't buy Bella Che's story that she doesn't have a pimp and that she didn't know the guy described in TwoPup's initial report.
I believe your experience was as you described. And anyone with a pair of eyes can see that Bella is super hot and I'm sure she would be a lot of fun, if you didn't have to deal with the muscle. I'm just not going to knowingly put myself in the situation that TwoPup found himself in, when there are plenty of alternative options out there that are super fun and safe.
[QUOTE=Knox Dew; 1268124]Pinkfloyd, I don't disagree with TwoPup's experience, and I'm sure it was terrible. I was just sharing my experience that I had AFTER TwoPup's nightmare appointment. As for $$$, not even close to that price. I don't think I ever paid more than $$, and have pad $.5 when she runs specials.
If you are saying I "am not being completely honest", I'm sorry you feel that way. Just no reason to lie if you are posting anonymously.
I guess to each his own.[/QUOTE]
Well guys up until tonight I loved what I do, never had a bad experience, besides a few weirdos or attachment issues. Tonight I had a dream with a out-of-town white mid 40s quiet monger. I screened him to best of my ability and spoke on the phone a cpl times before our meet. I met in public and everything seemed great. He followed me to my incall loc and came in got comfy. Compenssted me well first and then the fun began. We went for about 45 min. Finished up I got up went to bathroom to get towells ect. When I came back in my room (with in 3-4 min) he was dressed and headed towards door. Something struck me wrong in my gut feeling so I quickly checked my donation-it was gone. I did my best to divert him from the door while dialing my neighbor (who watches out for me to some degree) but he made it out of my front door to run right unto my neighbor. My neighbor (older and by no means scary) confronted him. He didn't respond and quickly made it to his car and left. I stood there stunned. I learned some valuable lessons tonight the biggest one being NEVER LET YOUR GAURD DOWN! I have gotten to comftorable and it was a huge wake-up call! Any of you who have met with me know I'm very skilled, punctual, not rushed, reasonable, warm, fun, ect. I am still in shock!
[QUOTE=PinkFloyd; 1268152]I'm not accusing you of dishonesty at all Dew, but I don't buy Bella Che's story that she doesn't have a pimp and that she didn't know the guy described in TwoPup's initial report.
I believe your experience was as you described. And anyone with a pair of eyes can see that Bella is super hot and I'm sure she would be a lot of fun, if you didn't have to deal with the muscle. I'm just not going to knowingly put myself in the situation that TwoPup found himself in, when there are plenty of alternative options out there that are super fun and safe.[/QUOTE]Gents, not a senior member here, but I did see Bella Che multiple times several years ago (see posts on E. Com. If they still exist). She always had a "driver" with her, but I never had a problem. Also agree with positive reviews on performance. Now for the bad, I stopped seeing her when she started texting constantly and acting strange. Not sure what was behind that, but I try to stay low key-thus I am not surprised to hear of this issue. Too bad. Stay safe.
[QUOTE=TNcandy;1268298]Well guys up until tonight I loved what I do, never had a bad experience, besides a few weirdos or attachment issues. Tonight I had a dream with a out-of-town white mid 40s quiet monger. I screened him to best of my ability and spoke on the phone a cpl times before our meet. I met in public and everything seemed great. He followed me to my incall loc and came in got comfy. Compenssted me well first and then the fun began. We went for about 45 min. Finished up I got up went to bathroom to get towells ect. When I came back in my room (with in 3-4 min) he was dressed and headed towards door. Something struck me wrong in my gut feeling so I quickly checked my donation-it was gone. I did my best to divert him from the door while dialing my neighbor (who watches out for me to some degree) but he made it out of my front door to run right unto my neighbor. My neighbor (older and by no means scary) confronted him. He didn't respond and quickly made it to his car and left. I stood there stunned. I learned some valuable lessons tonight the biggest one being NEVER LET YOUR GAURD DOWN! I have gotten to comftorable and it was a huge wake-up call! Any of you who have met with me know I'm very skilled, punctual, not rushed, reasonable, warm, fun, ect. I am still in shock![/QUOTE]Hey Candy sorry to hear about your experience. No1 deserves that especially you, you're a real sweetheart. Sorry got to see you this week.
Guys Candy is the real midsized bbw, well endowed. I've had the privilege of seeing her several times and she's always fun. Easy to see reasonable and trustworthy. With very good skills. Never tried the full menu but her french lessons are great. Stay safe Candy.
I too had given Bella a call a few days ago. Her pics are hot but the mixed reviews had me concerned. I spoke with her on the phone and couldn't udnerstand her most of the time. She slurred her words and just didn't make much sense. I asked her if she was ok and she said yes that her phone was messin up but sounded more like she was on somethin. Just my take for what its worth.
[QUOTE=Sexhoundtn2; 1268085]I totally agree with PinkFloyd, Mundane and others about Pups reputation and contributions to this board. I for one do believe his account of the incident. Especially after a couple of PM's I received from other members that have not openly voiced their thoughts or experiences on the board. It appears that others are familiar with her Muscle / Pimp even to the point of knowing him by name. It is truly ashamed that someone of Bella's form could fall to the place of being pimped by the likes of Mr. MW (name with held to protect the innocent. LOL) Bella honey you could have done just fine without your muscle and whatever it is that he provides you. Anybody that is a serious monger reads this board (trust me, I read it for 2 years before joining and posting). I would think your trustworthiness may well be ruined. I know your off my list for sure.
P. S. I know this may offend at least a couple of my fellow mongers on here. Sorry. Just MHO.[/QUOTE]Two thumbs up!
I dreamed that for 3 Jacksons I had an experience that blew me away (pun intended, LOL).
[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/60-labor-weekend-specials-in-the-mood-for-a-gentleman-incalloutcall-25/4077969[/url]
Any reviews on Ciara?
[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/giving-you-exactly-what-you-need-19/4256909[/url]
The number does not pull up anything on a google search. I believe the 423 area code is just south of Kville. The ad & pictures look believable. I don't see any obvious red flags. However, my hunch is that she has a manager. Any reviews, opinions would be great.
Happy hunting, be safe.
[QUOTE=GeeDick; 1269171]Any reviews on Ciara?
[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/giving-you-exactly-what-you-need-19/4256909[/url]
The number does not pull up anything on a google search. I believe the 423 area code is just south of Kville. The ad & pictures look believable. I don't see any obvious red flags. However, my hunch is that she has a manager. Any reviews, opinions would be great.
Happy hunting, be safe.[/QUOTE]Some recent reviews. No Reno Welcome but not really positive either. Pics not her.
[QUOTE=PinkFloyd; 1268152]I'm not accusing you of dishonesty at all Dew, but I don't buy Bella Che's story that she doesn't have a pimp and that she didn't know the guy described in TwoPup's initial report.
I believe your experience was as you described. And anyone with a pair of eyes can see that Bella is super hot and I'm sure she would be a lot of fun, if you didn't have to deal with the muscle. I'm just not going to knowingly put myself in the situation that TwoPup found himself in, when there are plenty of alternative options out there that are super fun and safe.[/QUOTE]Jeeez go away for a few weeks and all hell breaks loose.
Bella Che I saw a year ago, and had fun, but WTH? Even then all the drama over the years surrounding Tryshai gave me a case of nerves when I booked with her. Now I don't know what to think.
Harley, well not shocked, my visit with her was weird, lot of delays.
On top of that one of my ATFs retires! What's a monger to do? Go back on vacation!
And as someone correctly pointed out on the other thread, I think we've beat the Harley thing to death. Same can be said about Bella Che. The information is now out there on both of them. Anybody who's willing to spend a few minutes reading has all the information they could ever need to make an informed decision about either.
Anybody had a chance to take advantage of that incredible Anna / Nurse TCB labor day deal? Sweet dreams everybody!
[QUOTE=Jay Twogo; 1269388]Jeeez go away for a few weeks and all hell breaks loose.
Bella Che I saw a year ago, and had fun, but WTH? Even then all the drama over the years surrounding Tryshai gave me a case of nerves when I booked with her. Now I don't know what to think.
Harley, well not shocked, my visit with her was weird, lot of delays.
On top of that one of my ATFs retires! What's a monger to do? Go back on vacation![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PinkFloyd; 1269596]And as someone correctly pointed out on the other thread, I think we've beat the Harley thing to death. Same can be said about Bella Che. The information is now out there on both of them. Anybody who's willing to spend a few minutes reading has all the information they could ever need to make an informed decision about either.
Anybody had a chance to take advantage of that incredible Anna / Nurse TCB labor day deal? Sweet dreams everybody![/QUOTE]Pink,
Was seriously thinking of seeing them, but wasn't Anna with another girl? If it was I heard great things from you all on here and may get really I'll tonight.
[QUOTE=PinkFloyd; 1269596]And as someone correctly pointed out on the other thread, I think we've beat the Harley thing to death. Same can be said about Bella Che. The information is now out there on both of them. Anybody who's willing to spend a few minutes reading has all the information they could ever need to make an informed decision about either.
Anybody had a chance to take advantage of that incredible Anna / Nurse TCB labor day deal? Sweet dreams everybody![/QUOTE]First off, let me say, I trust TPP as m uch or more than anyone on this board and have no doubt his version is right on. Actually, he and I shoot the breeze through pms often even when I am not posting that often due to mongering inactivity on my part. I like to try to find the utr types and when successful I don't do much mongering. FWIW, I usually after a bit try to get the utr types I find to "expand their horizons" and let me pass on their info to others but that convo never goes well for me and usually screws up my deal.
Anyway, back to the main point of the post, my utr girl called me needing a ride home from work. Well, I hadn't expected to see her so earlier when I woke up from a nap "swollen", I just knocked the swelling down myself. Well since, I had just helped myself right before she called I figured I could use a little something to help out so I stopped by West Knox News and bought one of those otc herbal viagra type pills and popped it. The ones that are about $10 a pill work great but not sure about the cheap ones. So I get to her work and she tells me that she has agreed to cover for an hour for another girl. Well, my better half would be home in about an hr and 15 minutes, so there was no way I could hang around for an hour, take her home and get some. I, certainly, didn't want to sit in Hooters checking out the eye candy on herbal viagra and not get any. Even the old lady would have made me wait until she she cleaned up and unwound from a 12 hr shift so I was desperate.
Ok, sorry about the backstory but I just wanted to explain why I decided to roll dice. I called a very trusted provider and set up an appointment. I am not going to mention her name because she is very good and shit happens. Anyway, she told me to call her right before I got there but when I did no answer, I called again no answer and then when I called again the phone went straight to message and box was full so I knew then I wasn't seeing her so I had my Ipad and started looking hard at backpage. It came down to Bella Che or one of the visitors and the little head was in total control. I had no idea about the visitors and considered that a total shot in the dark but I knew what happened to TPP with BC but she also had some decent reviews so I decided screw it and called BC. I told her right upfront that I was aware of what happened and was very leery but if she was available right then I would give her a chance and she said come on and gave me her location.
I got to her location and circled it a couple of times to check it out and nobody but a skinny white dude was anywhere around. He looked harmless and was near the other end of hotel so I wasn't sure what his deal was. Her room is really close to the front so IMO, it is very safe. She answered the door and her looks did not disappoint. I checked the bathroom and then told her I didn't expect any interruptions so no phone calls. She said fine but she needed to call her friend and let them know I was ok not our Uncle or freak. I said go ahead but donation stays on TV and if knock on door or any interruption it is going back in my pocket and I am out. She agreed. She called friend and said he is cool call me back in a hour.
We were both already naked and we laid down on the bed and she started a BBBJ. She was doing an excellent job and asked if I wanted to 69. I said no your doing just fine. She then started a little freaky talking while continuing with a HJ. She asked if I liked dirty talk and I said I would rather she didn't talk with her mouth full. She said fine with her and then really went to work. She was trying her best to get me to explode and damn near did it. I knew my time was running short (not my hr) and I would need to be getting out and home so I pulled her head off me and told her I was ready to get to work. We started out in mish and she was feeling real good and she was moaning and groaning nicely. I was just getting ready to flip her to doggie when my phone started ringing. I knew it was either ol lady or utr. No way, could I stop then so I just started hitting it as hard and as fast as I could and about 3 minutes later pop goes the weasel. I climbed off and she went and got me a wet washcloth. The rate was $.5 for an hr but I was only there for 38 minutes (my choice). I laid a nice tip on her and we chatted again for a couple minutes. She said she was through with tryhai or whatever but I told her that even with a bunch of good reviews it is hard to make up for what happened to TPP. I told her we (mongers) understand that girls are vulnerable and need to take safety precautions but it goes both ways and if she needs someone to watch her back then dude should be invisible. She said she learned a valuable lesson. She still says if TPP wants she will throw him a freebie. Overall, it was a great dream and I will probably repeat. However, I will always be extra careful with her. I will say 2 things as I was leaving she said something about calling her friend to let them know I left so I sit out in parking lot for a couple minutes to see if anything was up and I noticed skinny guy was still at other end of hotel and he got a phone call while I was sitting there so he was probably her friend but he was about the size of Barbie. If I had the same experience as TPP, I would feel the same way as he does but as we have all learned with Harley & the Bella of old things can go wrong any time and YMMV at any time.
[QUOTE=NewButOld; 1269879]Pink,
Was seriously thinking of seeing them, but wasn't Anna with another girl? If it was I heard great things from you all on here and may get really I'll tonight.[/QUOTE]She also does doubles with Ava (also goes by Voronica). I'm seeing that duo on my birthday this week, and the anticipation is killing me.
Okay I'll admit I've got a nice gameday buzz going but that is a pretty damn convincing story and sales pitch! LOL! Sit uboo, sit!
[QUOTE=P Hunt 37; 1269892]First off, let me say, I trust TPP as m uch or more than anyone on this board and have no doubt his version is right on. Actually, he and I shoot the breeze through pms often even when I am not posting that often due to mongering inactivity on my part. I like to try to find the utr types and when successful I don't do much mongering. FWIW, I usually after a bit try to get the utr types I find to "expand their horizons" and let me pass on their info to others but that convo never goes well for me and usually screws up my deal.
Anyway, back to the main point of the post, my utr girl called me needing a ride home from work. Well, I hadn't expected to see her so earlier when I woke up from a nap "swollen", I just knocked the swelling down myself. Well since, I had just helped myself right before she called I figured I could use a little something to help out so I stopped by West Knox News and bought one of those otc herbal viagra type pills and popped it. The ones that are about $10 a pill work great but not sure about the cheap ones. So I get to her work and she tells me that she has agreed to cover for an hour for another girl. Well, my better half would be home in about an hr and 15 minutes, so there was no way I could hang around for an hour, take her home and get some. I, certainly, didn't want to sit in Hooters checking out the eye candy on herbal viagra and not get any. Even the old lady would have made me wait until she she cleaned up and unwound from a 12 hr shift so I was desperate.
Ok, sorry about the backstory but I just wanted to explain why I decided to roll dice. I called a very trusted provider and set up an appointment. I am not going to mention her name because she is very good and shit happens. Anyway, she told me to call her right before I got there but when I did no answer, I called again no answer and then when I called again the phone went straight to message and box was full so I knew then I wasn't seeing her so I had my Ipad and started looking hard at backpage. It came down to Bella Che or one of the visitors and the little head was in total control. I had no idea about the visitors and considered that a total shot in the dark but I knew what happened to TPP with BC but she also had some decent reviews so I decided screw it and called BC. I told her right upfront that I was aware of what happened and was very leery but if she was available right then I would give her a chance and she said come on and gave me her location.
I got to her location and circled it a couple of times to check it out and nobody but a skinny white dude was anywhere around. He looked harmless and was near the other end of hotel so I wasn't sure what his deal was. Her room is really close to the front so IMO, it is very safe. She answered the door and her looks did not disappoint. I checked the bathroom and then told her I didn't expect any interruptions so no phone calls. She said fine but she needed to call her friend and let them know I was ok not our Uncle or freak. I said go ahead but donation stays on TV and if knock on door or any interruption it is going back in my pocket and I am out. She agreed. She called friend and said he is cool call me back in a hour.
We were both already naked and we laid down on the bed and she started a BBBJ. She was doing an excellent job and asked if I wanted to 69. I said no your doing just fine. She then started a little freaky talking while continuing with a HJ. She asked if I liked dirty talk and I said I would rather she didn't talk with her mouth full. She said fine with her and then really went to work. She was trying her best to get me to explode and damn near did it. I knew my time was running short (not my hr) and I would need to be getting out and home so I pulled her head off me and told her I was ready to get to work. We started out in mish and she was feeling real good and she was moaning and groaning nicely. I was just getting ready to flip her to doggie when my phone started ringing. I knew it was either ol lady or utr. No way, could I stop then so I just started hitting it as hard and as fast as I could and about 3 minutes later pop goes the weasel. I climbed off and she went and got me a wet washcloth. The rate was $.5 for an hr but I was only there for 38 minutes (my choice). I laid a nice tip on her and we chatted again for a couple minutes. She said she was through with tryhai or whatever but I told her that even with a bunch of good reviews it is hard to make up for what happened to TPP. I told her we (mongers) understand that girls are vulnerable and need to take safety precautions but it goes both ways and if she needs someone to watch her back then dude should be invisible. She said she learned a valuable lesson. She still says if TPP wants she will throw him a freebie. Overall, it was a great dream and I will probably repeat. However, I will always be extra careful with her. I will say 2 things as I was leaving she said something about calling her friend to let them know I left so I sit out in parking lot for a couple minutes to see if anything was up and I noticed skinny guy was still at other end of hotel and he got a phone call while I was sitting there so he was probably her friend but he was about the size of Barbie. If I had the same experience as TPP, I would feel the same way as he does but as we have all learned with Harley & the Bella of old things can go wrong any time and YMMV at any time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PinkFloyd;1270082]Okay I'll admit I've got a nice gameday buzz going but that is a pretty damn convincing story and sales pitch! LOL! Sit uboo, sit![/QUOTE]Lmao Floyd that's funny but yeah I have serious doubt's about that girl. And you are right that was one hell of a sales pitch for her. Oh and you forgot the good dog at the end of your quote there LOL.
Found this ad on back page. Tried tin eye on the pics. Found nothing. But googled her number and hit the jackpot.
[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lt-m-b-th-bst-prt-f-yur-dy-21/4262862[/url]
Started to TOFTT. But wanted to research first. Good thing I did.
Number is out of texas. And not too good of reviews from what I'm reading here.
this one is from another site like ours...
((Saw Kimmie tonight. Typical three call dealio. Hotel by the airport. She is in town for a few days and I told her that I would review her to help her out. Rates are 80 for a quickie. 100 for half. And 180 for hour. Went for the quickie. And probably glad I just went with that. Good service but def not GFE. CBJ, no kissing, no DATY, CG, RCG. It is funny because I noticed that without kissing or DATY there isn't a whole lot to do other than the deed. If you are looking for intimate GFE, not the girl. If you are looking for a young tight body to bounce on top of you at a great rate. You can't go wrong.))
Again. I didn't see her. This was a review for her. Don't think I will now..i prefer the GFE myself