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[QUOTE=Spongebob357;1774122]That was Maria aka "Pleasure Princess", as far as I know she got out of the biz several years ago. If she is active I have not seen anything, I would also love to re-connect.[/QUOTE]I was one of her last clients. She soon after got busted by Saugatuck L. E. She quit.
[QUOTE=WolvGuy;1774616]I ended up working Sunday so I decided to swing by E\W. Only 2 girls working at that time, I knew I would atleast get a decent massage. I got just what I thought a decent massage. Durring my appointment I was told a few interesting tidbits of info. Seniors can pm me for details.[/QUOTE]Why hold out just for seniors. I want to know too!
[QUOTE=Durant;1773946]I have seen a few times. It is worth it.[/QUOTE]Thanks Durant for the review, are you recommending her as a masseuse that offers some form of HE? What about costs? Thanks for sharing.
[QUOTE=LifeTimeOfFun;1774846]Why hold out just for seniors. I want to know too![/QUOTE]Because most seniors will reciprocate while most new guys just want to have the info and not contribute. I know with most of the seniors that what is said backdoor via pm will stay there.
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;1774251]OMG. Did this post bring back some great memories. Maria was her name and once she got to know you nothing was off the table. Great looking. Great massage. Great "extras". Great time. She closed the Body Shop and took off for other lands.[/QUOTE]CourtneyGR worked at the Body Shop with Maria.
[QUOTE=WolvGuy;1775139]Because most seniors will reciprocate while most new guys just want to have the info and not contribute. I know with most of the seniors that what is said backdoor via pm will stay there.[/QUOTE]Understood. Was meant more in a light-hearted way. Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Spongebob357;1775091]Thanks Durant for the review, are you recommending her as a masseuse that offers some form of HE? What about costs? Thanks for sharing.[/QUOTE]She has a link to her website in her ad. The website includes a page with her prices. Her massage is methodical. It is evident that she has formal training. Although she is quite petite, she provides good pressure and does some stretching. Good massage for me. Very personable IMHO. Her website includes the additional charge for the "HE". As you will see on her website, it is more medical / clinical than HE. Apparently it works for many. Not for me. The post reminded me that I should repeat for the quality massage and quality of conversation. Hope this helps.
I know there is a place to post for Holland and Muskegon, but it doesn't get much traffic, plus I know many from the lakeshore area travel to GR for work so I thought someone here may be able to help.
I'm looking for a mostly legit massage along the lakeshore where a HE may be possible once a relationship is established (or sooner, though I don't know of any openly offering a HE at this point). Please PM details to keep it discrete if that's helpful.
I'm not a Senior yet but I've offered several reviews.
In terms of new info, I will say I've noticed several comments about Jennifer lately, who is currently at Royal if I understand correctly. I've seen her lots of times over the years, and she is a great sure thing if you're striking out or get a bad vibe somewhere else. She's also quite attractive relatively speaking. In my experience her focus can be hit or miss depending on if it's busy, and once she gets to know you the quality tends to tank quickly. She starts answering the phone more, going in and out of the room, changing who is massaging you (up to 3-4 different girls in one visit at times!) , and will try harder to get you to spend more. One time early on I was thinking with the small head and she roped me into a "four handed massage" with her and Cindy. It was great while it lasted, and I got both of them topless which I quite enjoyed, but after literally about five minutes she was getting antsy and trying to rush me along (I don't usually take too terribly long, and didn't that day either, but feeling rushed is a major boner killer for me. Anyway, finished soon after that, and left after having been in an hour session for a total of about 35 minutes, and both of them in there for probably 8-10 minutes, and her wanting I think $ if memory serves me well. I told her I felt a little ripped off but she didn't care. Very frustrating, but I take a good portion of responsibility for being new to the game and not knowing better. Won't make that mistake again, and only go there now in a pinch if I really have no other choice. Again, all my opinion and based on my experiences. I don't think they're too far from what others have reported, but haven't seen anything about her in a while other than from some new people so I thought this might be helpful for some.
[QUOTE=LifeTimeOfFun;1774846]Why hold out just for seniors. I want to know too![/QUOTE]With E / W in particular we have to be careful what's said in the open forum. Extras have been shut off completely at one point with one girl due to a report here in the forum. So best to keep details with E / W thru pm's.
Just saw a new girl at Royal. Cute, petite, lots of fun. She said you worked at Panacea before. Will definitely return!
I saw Paige last week, I love her personality. Very caring person and not talking down about other providers. I will repeat, everything is nice about her.
Well I used my gift massage today at Pacific Massage in Cascade.
I called ahead and Marianna, Lucy and Holly were working. I made the appointment with Lucy and I'm not sure why but they switched me when I arrive to Marianna. I have never had Marianna before so I went along with it. They told me it would be 10 minutes till she was ready so I took a shower first and waited for her in the room. She walks in 5 minutes later and I get my first look at her. Not my body type at all so I was disappointed. I love spinner types and she was probably 60- 80 pounds over my taste.
She had that glow / smile on her face and she slapped my ass when she come along side the table and I knew extras were probably on the menu.
The massage was nothing special. I kept my eyes closed the whole time, seriously, as I didn't want to wreck whatever mood I could muster up. On the flip she offered HJ which was decent but not great.
I would only recommend her to those that like bigger girls with big boobs. She rubbed those boobies all over me trying to get a response. She did have a good attitude and smile. My guess she is Italian. 5'6" and around 190 pounds. Sorry I did not inquire about other extras she may offer but I honestly think more is available. She mentioned she wanted to spank me next visit, whatever the hell that's suppose to mean.
[QUOTE=ZzzDamm;1776910]I saw Paige last week, I love her personality. Very caring person and not talking down about other providers. I will repeat, everything is nice about her.[/QUOTE]And. She provides a very good massage (IMHO).
[QUOTE=ZzzDamm;1776910]I saw Paige last week, I love her personality. Very caring person and not talking down about other providers. I will repeat, everything is nice about her.[/QUOTE]I agree. Paige is a very satisfying masseuse. I've know her for over a year now, and though I can't visit her regularly, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend her to anyone.
[QUOTE=SoKent;1777356]And. She provides a very good massage (IMHO).[/QUOTE]Awesome. Now we just got to figure out who and where she is =).
[QUOTE=LongTom;1777545]I agree. Paige is a very satisfying masseuse. I've know her for over a year now, and though I can't visit her regularly, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend her to anyone.[/QUOTE]Just so those of us who are looking for more than a legit massage. You two are talking about the same Paige others have who provides an excellent massage but nothing else?
[QUOTE=Tarotjd;1777580]Awesome. Now we just got to figure out who and where she is =).[/QUOTE]Is this the Paige in question?
[url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensational-hands/11915096[/url]
I am glad that she is a sweet girl and gives a good massage, but like Paul Harvey. I would like to know the "rest of the story"
[QUOTE=ZzzDamm;1776910]I saw Paige last week, I love her personality. Very caring person and not talking down about other providers. I will repeat, everything is nice about her.[/QUOTE]So how happy was the ending?
I can only report my experience. The last time I saw Paige she was at Healthy Habits. 28th St east. That was several months ago. I don't know if she is still there. I have not requested or expected anything other than legit massage at this facility, YMMV. There are many other options for HE. Paige's legit massage is one of the best I have found and simply added that to ZzzDamm's report. I understand that the forum is focused on reports for where extras are available. I know there are other members that appreciate quality massage as well.
Her massage is pretty great but I would be surprised if anything more was on the menu. She was totally legit with me and I was draped the entire time. Too bad too as she is quite easy on the eyes. I asked about her on this forum once before and have been to her a couple times since and she was completely professional.
[QUOTE=SoKent;1778642]I can only report my experience. The last time I saw Paige she was at Healthy Habits. 28th St east. That was several months ago. I don't know if she is still there. I have not requested or expected anything other than legit massage at this facility, YMMV. There are many other options for HE. Paige's legit massage is one of the best I have found and simply added that to ZzzDamm's report. I understand that the forum is focused on reports for where extras are available. I know there are other members that appreciate quality massage as well.[/QUOTE]
Fwiw, a woman claiming to be Marianna answered a craigslist post of mine once, and was willing to meet up for a car date. I'm thinking if you get to know her fun can be had. Imo.
[QUOTE=Asianplvr; 1777331]Well I used my gift massage today at Pacific Massage in Cascade.
I called ahead and Marianna, Lucy and Holly were working. I made the appointment with Lucy and I'm not sure why but they switched me when I arrive to Marianna. I have never had Marianna before so I went along with it. They told me it would be 10 minutes till she was ready so I took a shower first and waited for her in the room. She walks in 5 minutes later and I get my first look at her. Not my body type at all so I was disappointed. I love spinner types and she was probably 60- 80 pounds over my taste.
She had that glow / smile on her face and she slapped my ass when she come along side the table and I knew extras were probably on the menu.
The massage was nothing special. I kept my eyes closed the whole time, seriously, as I didn't want to wreck whatever mood I could muster up. On the flip she offered HJ which was decent but not great.
I would only recommend her to those that like bigger girls with big boobs. She rubbed those boobies all over me trying to get a response. She did have a good attitude and smile. My guess she is Italian. 5'6" and around 190 pounds. Sorry I did not inquire about other extras she may offer but I honestly think more is available. She mentioned she wanted to spank me next visit, whatever the hell that's suppose to mean.[/QUOTE]
So I haven't ventured to the massage body rub route in gr. Previously just backpage and you know what you are getting for the price. So what is normal tipping for HE in gr?
Just curious
Thanks
[QUOTE=Rjmlu; 1781477]So I haven't ventured to the massage body rub route in gr. Previously just backpage and you know what you are getting for the price. So what is normal tipping for HE in gr?
Just curious
Thanks[/QUOTE]Most of my my experience in GR is to Panacea although I have tried a couple others as well. Tips for me anyways usually start at 1/2 of the upfront fee on up to matching the upfront fee. If I am doing a 1/2 hour and the house cost is 40. 00, I will usually tip 40.00 as well IF the service is good! If I do the hour and the house cost is 60. 00, I'll usually tip from 40.00 to 60.00. When you see a new girl for the first time she will usually tell you that her service gets better the more you see her, I usually respond that my tip gets better as well if the service gets better!
I used to see Summer at Panacea as well as Natasha and Natalie. Something about Summer always turned me on! I saw her about 4 times and each time got hotter and hotter. Then when I went to see her the last time they told me she was no longer working at Panacea, that was about a month or so ago. Anybody know if she is somewhere else or still doing massages? She was a Hottie!
[QUOTE=Gcd02;1779538]Fwiw, a woman claiming to be Marianna answered a craigslist post of mine once, and was willing to meet up for a car date. I'm thinking if you get to know her fun can be had. Imo.[/QUOTE]It may be the same Marianna. The one I saw was certainly acting naughty. I just wasn't interested so I didn't take it anywhere.
[QUOTE=Love The Lips;1781665]I used to see Summer at Panacea as well as Natasha and Natalie. Something about Summer always turned me on! I saw her about 4 times and each time got hotter and hotter. Then when I went to see her the last time they told me she was no longer working at Panacea, that was about a month or so ago. Anybody know if she is somewhere else or still doing massages? She was a Hottie![/QUOTE]Check at Royal. 44th St.
Hey guys,
Was in town, so decided to give Panacea a try. Went with the surprise 1/2 hour (didn't ask for anyone in particular). In walked a young girl with blond / black hair (kind of a combination of the two), fairly skinny with a cups who talked a lot. Didn't catch her name, however (anyone know who this girl is?) the experience was very good. I don't think it is a girl who has been reviewed on the board previous, as the description didn't really match any of the previous ones. Overall damage was .8 and I left happy!
I was impressed by this place, as I am a fan of the American MP's. Guess my question for you all is, do they do 4 hands here? If so any idea on cost? I would like to try out some of the other girls, including Natasha if I can get an appointment with her, but 2 at once would be amazing. I know the Asian spas do it all the time, but that doesn't really interest me.
Thanks for any feedback you can provide! I am from Detroit, and can help you all out on this side of the state if interested!
M
[QUOTE=Love The Lips;1781659]Most of my my experience in GR is to Panacea although I have tried a couple others as well. Tips for me anyways usually start at 1/2 of the upfront fee on up to matching the upfront fee. If I am doing a 1/2 hour and the house cost is 40. 00, I will usually tip 40.00 as well IF the service is good! If I do the hour and the house cost is 60. 00, I'll usually tip from 40.00 to 60.00. When you see a new girl for the first time she will usually tell you that her service gets better the more you see her, I usually respond that my tip gets better as well if the service gets better![/QUOTE]That's just a little more than I normally tip. Whether a half hour or an hour I tip the same, since I'm paying for a massage with the door fee. I consider the tip to be for the end of the massage. Generally my tip is $20-$40, with the low end being for a basic rub 'and tug where the massage girl raise her shirt and let's her breasties out, to the high end where the girl goes fully nude and let's me fondle a bit. Very few allow any digital insertion, but when that happens that might be good for something slightly higher than the $40. No way in hell I would go higher than $50 for a HJ though (where total cost for a HJ would be $110 with the massage), if I'm going more than that I can get fully serviced by quite a few different ladies off backpage or the other internet resources.
Ok now why does a person post on massage and body rub, then why you see her she claims that she does not participate in any satisfying action? Her ad says cum see me! It makes me think of false advertising or falsies. Lets all protest! (walking away sign in hand, doing a protest March). Ok guys what should my sign say?
What a contrast. I had seen Jennifer at Royal some time ago. At that time the phone calls were a significant distraction. It is just not the case at the new location. On a recent visit, I made the house payment for 60 minutes upon arrival. For that I received more than the 60 minutes of Jen's full attention. No phone calls, no interruptions. Great personal service and a welcome improvement. Will repeat often as long as the level of service remains as good as the recent experience.
[QUOTE=ZzzDamm;1782810]Ok now why does a person post on massage and body rub, then why you see her she claims that she does not participate in any satisfying action? Her ad says cum see me! It makes me think of false advertising or falsies. Lets all protest! (walking away sign in hand, doing a protest March). Ok guys what should my sign say?[/QUOTE]I guess I might have missed that ad. I did see one Tiffany posted in Therapeutic with that title tho. I thought Trisha was off having a baby.
[QUOTE=Mike27L; 1782444]Hey guys,
Was in town, so decided to give Panacea a try. Went with the surprise 1/2 hour (didn't ask for anyone in particular). In walked a young girl with blond / black hair (kind of a combination of the two) , fairly skinny with a cups who talked a lot. Didn't catch her name, however (anyone know who this girl is?) the experience was very good. I don't think it is a girl who has been reviewed on the board previous, as the description didn't really match any of the previous ones. Overall damage was. 8 and I left happy!
I was impressed by this place, as I am a fan of the American MP's. Guess my question for you all is, do they do 4 hands here? If so any idea on cost? I would like to try out some of the other girls, including Natasha if I can get an appointment with her, but 2 at once would be amazing. I know the Asian spas do it all the time, but that doesn't really interest me.
Thanks for any feedback you can provide! I am from Detroit, and can help you all out on this side of the state if interested!
M[/QUOTE]OK, I'm thinking by your description that she had blonde and dark hair and a smaller chest, it could have been Tia or maybe Ava? I think it's those two that may fit your description.
[QUOTE=WolvGuy;1783264]I guess I might have missed that ad. I did see one Tiffany posted in Therapeutic with that title tho. I thought Trisha was off having a baby.[/QUOTE]I think Tiffany is who he is referring to.
[QUOTE=LifeTimeOfFun;1783636]I think Tiffany is who he is referring to.[/QUOTE]Yes Tiffany not Trisha, so now I have to cross the name off of the sign I made and rewrite it. (I still need sign ideas)
[QUOTE=Love The Lips;1783419]OK, I'm thinking by your description that she had blonde and dark hair and a smaller chest, it could have been Tia or maybe Ava? I think it's those two that may fit your description.[/QUOTE]I can't remember if it was blonde hair with black ends or vice versa! Wasn't thinking straight on the way out, if you know what I mean!
It certainly wasn't bad at all, I just would like to try someone different next time. Maybe with a larger chest (can't help it, I'm a boob guy) If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate it.
M
[QUOTE=Love The Lips;1783419]OK, I'm thinking by your description that she had blonde and dark hair and a smaller chest, it could have been Tia or maybe Ava? I think it's those two that may fit your description.[/QUOTE]I'm going to agree and say that was Tia.
[QUOTE=LifeTimeOfFun;1783636]I think Tiffany is who he is referring to.[/QUOTE]I reviewed Tiffany and in that review stated there were no extras. I'm sure like so many others that post on BP she probably used that word "cum" to get the phone to ring. Doesn't make it right.
[QUOTE=WolvGuy;1783865]I reviewed Tiffany and in that review stated there were no extras. I'm sure like si many others that post on BP she probably used that word "cum" to get the phone to ring. Doesn't make it right.[/QUOTE]Agreed. But all is fair in advertising. The idea of sex sells. Doesn't mean you are gettin any. That's how AXE deodorant continues to sucker my ass in.
Saw Megan at Panacea. The one hour massage was 40 minutes including the HJ to finish. To begin with I walked in and the girl shows me to the room. 10 minutes pass before Megan comes in. She's mid-40's, tall and thin with enhanced rack. But the body is nothing special. She'll do nude for $60 tip, not worth it in my opinion. She was nice, talkative, gave a half-assed massage that she kept saying how great it was, and finished with a flip and HE. Total time 40 minutes plus the 10 I waited for her to even enter the room. Would not repeat.
[QUOTE=Blackfire;1784032]Saw Megan at Panacea. The one hour massage was 40 minutes including the HJ to finish. To begin with I walked in and the girl shows me to the room. 10 minutes pass before Megan comes in. She's mid-40's, tall and thin with enhanced rack. But the body is nothing special. She'll do nude for $60 tip, not worth it in my opinion. She was nice, talkative, gave a half-assed massage that she kept saying how great it was, and finished with a flip and HE. Total time 40 minutes plus the 10 I waited for her to even enter the room. Would not repeat.[/QUOTE]If you give Panacea another try, check out Natasha or Natalie. In my opinion they are the best ones at Panacea!