I called Winter Princess to my Home?
[QUOTE=MisterE253;5635264]Contacted Winter Princess. Requested an outcall, started it, got a call from my neighbor. Apparently her driver was fighting with another girl at the end of my driveway In front of my Laural hedges. Gave me sob story. Just handed her money and asked her to leave. Would not repeat.[/QUOTE]You invited her to your home? Yeah I stopped doing that 15 years or so ago. This is the exact type of drama I want to avoid. Makes a lot more sense to book a room somewhere and ask the ***** to meet you there. That way if there is any BS you can just lock the door and bail.
No truth in anything board
Not surprising at all that this guy gets bombarded for telling the truth lmao.
[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?2271073-Fitness-matters[/URL]!
As expected the usual suspects chime in and have to deny reality. Every provider in there minus one has to come to the rescue for the rest of the obese slags falsely marketing themselves as "chubby" and completely missing the point of the hobby for most guys, the point that poster gabrieltna was making. Only three people in that thread being honest, and one was the OP who hasn't come back.
The simpking 2000 magnus ven honestly needs to disappear, his cringe takes / posts are some of the worst non provider posted shit on that forum. I'm also honestly shocked that anyone has actually paid to fuck that seacow Mollylane too, there is zero attractive qualities about that beast. Grotesquely fat, fucking hairy, a face like a crossdressing trucker, with the classic Portland mind cancer in the brain. Every vouch that isn't one of her mentally damaged friends on there has to have visited for the fetish of fucking the grossest thing they could.
How I know I have no kids out there: Child support
I didn't want to put this in Rants, but here, because by doing BBFS, we are (depending on your personal view of it) risking getting a woman pregnant, or getting a golden opportunity to perhaps get her pregnant. (I feel the latter).
Sorry to hijack. But, this thread is where pregnancy with an SP is talked about most.
I am 97% sure I have NO children. (Hobby or non-hobby women).
If I did, why wouldn't she come after me for child support?
One can say, she reveals to me that I have a kid with her, and I can them petition for visitation rights.
We all know that the courts are stacked against males and husbands and fathers.
So, if the judge orders me to pay her 800 a month child support, but with me getting visitation rights, then:
Couldn't she say, I'll volunteer to accept 500 a month, but Father Rex gets NO visitation rights. I CAN see the courts allowing her to do so, considering how courts screw over men.
My point is, IF I had any children out there, the Baby Momma could at least get 500 easy dollars a month out of me.
I have not paid a DIME in child support, in my entire life.
I therefore proclaim 97% certainty, that I have NO children.
If I impregnated inadvertently a KAngel, wouldn't the Booker tell me about it? If only to help the girl get 500 plus dollars a month from me in child support?
This is a VERY explosive topic. I am pleasantly surprised that I haven't gotten much negative pushback on this topic. I'm sure that secretly more guys than you would think, think like me on this Biological Fatherhood imbroglios predicament.
About knocking a provider up.
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If I did, why wouldn't she come after me for child support?
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If I impregnated inadvertently a KAngel, wouldn't the Booker tell me about it? If only to help the girl get 500 plus dollars a month from me in child support?
This is a VERY explosive topic. I am pleasantly surprised that I haven't gotten much negative pushback on this topic. I'm sure that secretly more guys than you would think, think like me on this Biological Fatherhood imbroglios predicament.[/QUOTE]Don't be so certain that any of them would come after you for child support. Especially if they are connected to an org, because if the whole child support thing becomes messy it can easily drag the org into it as well.
A number of years ago a pretty well-known provider told me I put a brat in her and wanted to negotiate for child support. I sent her some money in good faith and said I'd talk to my lawyer and get back to her. I did talk to my lawyer and had my lawyer (or actually a paralegal at their office) reach out to her. She freaked out and left the state and I haven't heard from her since. So I don't know if she was really pregnant, or if she was pregnant if I was the father. From convos I've had with other mongers over the years that situation is par for the course.
So I'd say if you get into this situation get yourself a damned good lawyer who can advise you on your rights. Yes, the system is biased against you but you can easily make it much worse. Most of these girls are "sure thing" people who want something for nothing. If they think getting the money is going to involve going to court (and it will, we are talking about a child here) most of them won't be interested no matter how much money is on the table.
I blame the media, society and pop culture for my fetish
[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;5643227]What I don't get is how completely selfish this fetish, because it is a fetish at this point, is. As someone who was raised by an addict, why the hell would you want a child raised by an addict? Add the situations providers live in and all you're looking for is an abused child. Why do you want to sentence a child to that life? Do you want to be a hero? It doesn't sound like it. It sounds like you just want to know you have a child and are completely willing to set them up poorly in life.
I don't know man. I personally don't want to hear about your desire to set kids up for a life of abuse and drug addiction anymore. You seem like a nice enough guy. Please get a normal, non provider, drug addicted person for this endeavor. Some self confidence would be good too.[/QUOTE]I blame the media, society and pop culture for my fetish.
If I accomplish this fetish, that would send my self-confidence through the roof.
Why as kids, do we think chocolate cake tastes great, and that liver tastes like shit? Is liver really that bad? I don't care for liver, but I think reading in story books, comics, cartoons, and hearing it from other kids, convinced me that liver is yucky, more than anything. If cartoons and classmates taught me spinach is good, I probably would have liked spinach better.
The way I've given examples of how seemingly nice enough people, become TOTAL arrogant shithead asshole snobs right AFTER becoming a biological parent, makes ME also want to become an arrogant shithead asshole.
Like you, even though we're on opposite sides, the grass always looks greener on the other side.
You have your view, I have mine.
Yes, but somebody is going to do it anyway. So, why not let it be me.
[QUOTE=BoboThe55;5642544]Sorry buddy, your posts about wanting to have a kid with providers are getting old. Kids without fathers leads to misery most of the time.[/QUOTE]Bobo,
I respectfully disagree with you.
I'm talking about women who are going to get knocked up ANYWAY, by SOMEBODY, eventually and inevitably.
So, SW Samantha is having BBFS for the right price. She is openly NOT on birth control. Look, she's going to get knocked up.
Bobo likes 7-up, Rex likes Pepsi. There are two cans of soda on the table: One 7-up and one Pepsi. Simple formula: Give Bobo the 7-up, give Rex the Pepsi.
As for criticizing me for creating a kid who will live a life in misery, as long as you EQUALLY criticize the BILLIONS of other deadbeat dads out there, I'm fine with that. I just don't like being singled out, when I would be just another in BILLIONS of deadbeat dads.
I agree with you, that kids without fathers often lead a life of misery. But, ask their DADS how much they care, and most of them will laugh and say, "Chlut! As long as I'm not financially on the hook, I couldn't give a damn!" So, why should I care?
Bobo, you have your view on this, and I have mine. Nothing more nothing less.
I just need to play my cards right
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5643139]Don't be so certain that any of them would come after you for child support. Especially if they are connected to an org, because if the whole child support thing becomes messy it can easily drag the org into it as well.
A number of years ago a pretty well-known provider told me I put a brat in her and wanted to negotiate for child support. I sent her some money in good faith and said I'd talk to my lawyer and get back to her. I did talk to my lawyer and had my lawyer (or actually a paralegal at their office) reach out to her. She freaked out and left the state and I haven't heard from her since. So I don't know if she was really pregnant, or if she was pregnant if I was the father. From convos I've had with other mongers over the years that situation is par for the course.
So I'd say if you get into this situation get yourself a damned good lawyer who can advise you on your rights. Yes, the system is biased against you but you can easily make it much worse. Most of these girls are "sure thing" people who want something for nothing. If they think getting the money is going to involve going to court (and it will, we are talking about a child here) most of them won't be interested no matter how much money is on the table.[/QUOTE]Reminder to everybody: If any woman, tells me specifically NOT to get her pregnant, I'm not going to do it. It is not my intent to outright violate any woman. I'm looking for ones who CONSENT, or "if you impregnate me, you impregnate me, and oh well. ".
I'm certain that there have always been women who would have loved for me to knock them up, because they could get my child support. The problem is, MY money would also pay for her OTHER 2 or 3 kids, with other men.
I'm not saying that I'm rich, but I certainly have more money than the other Chads who fathered her other 2 or 3 kids. Especially, when those Chads are homeless, in jail, or even deceased.
So, my fear is that, how little of my monthly payment to DSHS, which gets funneled to Mama Samantha, truly benefits Rex Jr? Most of it, unfortunately, helps pay for and raise Chad Jr, Chad III and Chad IV.
I know that I "want to have my cake and eat it. " My reply is (not to Marko personally), "Tell me ONE person, who doesn't want that. ".
Also, (not just to Marko personally) I see this as another "dog eat dog world" situation. So I need to stop being the cuddly friendly puppy, and I need to step up and act like a PIT BULL!
Sometimes, you have to fight fire, WITH fire!
WOOF!
To Jimmy: It's points of view here
[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;5643227]What I don't get is how completely selfish this fetish, because it is a fetish at this point, is. As someone who was raised by an addict, why the hell would you want a child raised by an addict? Add the situations providers live in and all you're looking for is an abused child. Why do you want to sentence a child to that life? Do you want to be a hero? It doesn't sound like it. It sounds like you just want to know you have a child and are completely willing to set them up poorly in life.
I don't know man. I personally don't want to hear about your desire to set kids up for a life of abuse and drug addiction anymore. You seem like a nice enough guy. Please get a normal, non provider, drug addicted person for this endeavor. Some self confidence would be good too.[/QUOTE]Jimmy, I will say, I know that life wasn't easy for you or your mother. I can believe that both your biological mother and father are decent people, who just unfortunately wound up in bad situations. I can believe and understand the pain you felt, being raised by an addict. I am sympathetic to you on that.
What I want, is for people to understand, that MY situation, while nowhere as rough as yours, is STILL not totally pain free.
Talking about myself here: Since age 26, feeling like a nerd, geek, loser, who "has no game," is NOT a painless existence to live through. It also has massive damage to the ego and psyche.
I'm not asking Jimmy or anybody to AGREE with me. I just want all of you to "see where I'm coming from. ".
Complex people (me) don't necessarily always want to be AGREED with. What we do want, is for people to understand us.
Legit BBFS topic: FIVE missed opportunities
This IS relevant to BBFS in the hobby.
I am beating MYSELF up, because I am going to tell you about FIVE potentially MISSED OPPORTUNITIES. These would have been consensual.
Midori: Unfortunately, she had her life taken in a robbery. But, literally MONTHS before that, I had a BBBJ date with her. I didn't know about BBFS in this world at that time, and honestly, didn't know how so many women use NON-condom birth control. Midori was seemingly about to LET me BBFS her doggy style! I hesitated, saying "Ummmmm. ". She said, Oh do you want a condom? STUPID FUCKING REX! At least, I would have had a chance.
Sophie KGirl: Saw Sophie in 2012 or so. Young pretty KGirl, slim, small breasts. Didn't look DRUGGED, but emotionally tired. She seemed JUST ready to let me BBFS her, Mish position. I STUPIDLY said "Ummmm. " Sophie said, "Oh, do you want a condom?" Like Midori, this would have been CONSENSUAL. Rex, you've made many mistakes in your life, but you FUCKING THREW THIS ONE AWAY, you stupid dumb ass!!
Cute young Persian girl: She was cute, sexy, SLIM, in her early 20's, and did NOT know about my "fathering a child fetish. " First date, she said, I kid you not, "Will you have babies with me?" I said "I would LOVE to have babies with you," hoping she was serious. Why didn't I push it and ask for BBFS? Because she worked for an AGENCY, and I didn't want to get banned. I don't 100% regret not pushing it. Only 75% regret.
Lily of VIP Spa: In 2015, I did NOT know that BBFS was the NORM at ET, Kings and VIP. Lily actually initiated a LOT of conversation with me, and seemed to like my company, and seemed to think I was a nice guy. She seemed rather lonely. Had I had HALF a brain in 2015, I would have sweet talked her, to see if she was even remotely interested in consensually having a baby with me. At worst, she would have said no. Rex, you DUMB FUCK IDIOT!!
Courtney of Seattle: 2010, she came back. Unfortunately, in 2011 I believe, she passed away from a drug overdose. In 2010, she told me on her own accord, that she had a baby in 2006. I THEN opened up to her (I first saw her in 1997, then a few times in 2001) about my "father desires. " Courtney said, I'm being honest, "I might be willing to do one child with you, if you can make me some other promises to go along with that. ".
What a DUMB FUCK I was, with these missed opportunities! They were HANDED to me, and like a fucking idiot, I did my "Duh. What do I do" shit.
I could have a winning 10 million dollar lottery ticket, and wouldn't know what to do with it.
Rex is a FUCKING IDIOT DUMB FUCK. (At least gets was, on five occasions).
The last cream puff on the platter analogy
[QUOTE=Joseph1955;5643383]This "hobby" is about seeking fun and gratification. Seeking BB is about maximizing that gratification. Or in some cases, the only way to reliably climax.
It's not about finding a partner or mate. Trying to use this to produce offspring sure sounds like a fetish to me. But it also points out one of the ways this whole thing isn't played on a level field. At the end of the day, the woman needs to guard against pregnancy or deal with it's immediate consequences. Trying to avoid introducing a child into the mix seems like common sense to me. Spread your seed elsewhere. Or be a sperm donor and have random children with those who are, at least hopefully, trying to build a stable family.[/QUOTE]If ALL providers and SW a were guarding against pregnancy, and successful at doing so, I Wouldn't be talking about it here.
It's just that, these SP are so open about not being on birth control, and are actually PROUD when they get knocked up.
The point: SOME hobbyist will do it, eventually.
How is Nerdy Rex knocking you SW Samantha any worse than Asshole-Abusive-Chad knocking her up?
At a banquet (no refills by a kitchen), you go to the serving table, and there is ONE cream puff left. You KINDA don't want to take it, because you'll feel kind of greedy and selfish.
MY point: TAKE that last cream puff (provided, you didn't have 5 of them prior to that, as that's a totally different story). Because, if YOU don't take that last cream puff, somebody ELSE will.
I see your points Joseph, and I respect them.
But, I'm seeing this as another "dog eat dog world" situation. I'm tired of being the friendly little puppy with the sad eyes. I'm going to be a PIT BULL from now on!
WOOF!