Philly Sugar

[QUOTE=GranAnimal;5822657]Hello Fellow Mongers.

I relocated from NH to Easton back in September. One of the Allentown members told me about this section as there is no place to put this up there. I was very active up in NH since 2011 and I'm just as active here. I'm exclusively on SA and WYP. I've had great luck here as their are way more women to choose from down here compared to NH. I've met some great women here and they are very friendly. I don't know if you guys get up by the ABC area but here is what I've found so far.

I have also met some scammers on SA:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7db7e4dd-1a00-4b64-a9a3-c478b75f43ac[/URL]

Beware of this one I took her on 5 dates buying lunch / dinners and when she realized that I was not giving her money she ghosted me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ab090db3-54e6-4fd4-84a5-fcd4200664e8[/URL]

This one reached out to me and we setup two different dates and she blew me off both times, never ripped me off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/73694819-723b-4aa5-9544-84c3ed0e82ee[/URL]

This one in Bethlehem was fun but young and hot $$. 5 worth it for me. No BS with this one you just have to have a place to go.[/QUOTE]Great info and welcome to the board. Many of us can use this information especially if we take a trip up to Windcreek up in Bethlehem.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5817522]Play to your strengths, play in the most familiar surroundings, play where you find it!

There was a dude here, Fbtom, who could pick up a girl for play at the bar, in line at Wawa and at Walmart. So if that is where your skill set lies, go for it! Much easier to make decisions face-to-face than miles of texting off a website. Paying for website access is one way, real life encounters skips so many steps.

Go for it![/QUOTE]Thanks! Recently went out with one of my free to play targets and realized why I hadn't in months. Still waiting for another to get off the Covid bench but I'm starting to see some activity in some of the local bars that I pursue for new targets. I'm mostly in southwest Bucks and Monco and like to frequent those higher end bars where you find the female population enjoying their super charged ladies night cocktails or $5 wines. I need a list of these kind of places if its out there somewhere. (Blue Bell Inn, and Panache are my two place to investigate right now).

I'm not totally done with SA but I haven't reupped yet. I've noticed that I have 14 unopened messages at this point but my unopened messaged seemed to double once my membership expired. Anyone have any intel on other sites that are useful?

[QUOTE=Mythbuster;5834933]Thanks! Recently went out with one of my free to play targets and realized why I hadn't in months. Still waiting for another to get off the Covid bench but I'm starting to see some activity in some of the local bars that I pursue for new targets. I'm mostly in southwest Bucks and Monco and like to frequent those higher end bars where you find the female population enjoying their super charged ladies night cocktails or $5 wines. I need a list of these kind of places if its out there somewhere. (Blue Bell Inn, and Panache are my two place to investigate right now).

I'm not totally done with SA but I haven't reupped yet. I've noticed that I have 14 unopened messages at this point but my unopened messaged seemed to double once my membership expired. Anyone have any intel on other sites that are useful?[/QUOTE]There is a bar in Lower Bucks, if memory serves, that is essentially a swinger's bar or a place one goes to get picked up. Met a couple there once, but it has been so long ago I don't remember the name.

Most other sites do the pay for credits racket. Can't tell if contacts are real or bot generated until after you spend your credits.

If you are looking for the meat market, try Del Friscos in Philly. Full of MILFs, upscale ladies looking for action. However, the drinks are crazy expensive as well as the food.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5835828]There is a bar in Lower Bucks, if memory serves, that is essentially a swinger's bar or a place one goes to get picked up. Met a couple there once, but it has been so long ago I don't remember the name.

Most other sites do the pay for credits racket. Can't tell if contacts are real or bot generated until after you spend your credits.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5837594]If you are looking for the meat market, try Del Friscos in Philly. Full of MILFs, upscale ladies looking for action. However, the drinks are crazy expensive as well as the food.

Be Safe.[/QUOTE]That's my kind of spot! I was just there late last year. It was a boy's night but we were more caught up on catching up than prowling so I didn't roam far from our table. I'd love to find a place like that in the burbs! (I wish there was a thread for that kind of thing) Anyone have any recent experience on SA. I have about 14 unanswered messages but I'm worried that they are just bots or scam artist. I'll probably do a short stint on the site in another month or two.

Met this one last night in Pottstown.

Agreed in 60 for a car BJ.

Heavier than her pics.

Asked for money to be put on dash.

I hesitated but gave in so she doesn't think I was going to rip her off.

10 seconds into the BJ I tell her how I like it done.

She ignores me. Tells me she will do it her way.

I ask her again. She refuses. Says she knows how to give a BJ.

Grabs my money and leaves.

Not worth chasing after her for 60 and risk cops getting involved.

Stephaniiee from.

Pottstown.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/652f23ca-c2b7-41e3-8672-18c0080d25cc[/URL]

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5835828]There is a bar in Lower Bucks, if memory serves, that is essentially a swinger's bar or a place one goes to get picked up. Met a couple there once, but it has been so long ago I don't remember the name.

Most other sites do the pay for credits racket. Can't tell if contacts are real or bot generated until after you spend your credits.[/QUOTE]I picked up a few couples there who wanted to be cucked or a mfm.

I'm 99.9% sure this is Firecracker, a pro from Lancaster (discussed in the Lancaster Escort thread):

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1e8bb8b8-3793-4df3-bb17-b86e9656b577[/URL]

[QUOTE=KenAllen;5842097]Met this one last night in Pottstown.

Agreed in 60 for a car BJ.

Heavier than her pics.

Asked for money to be put on dash.

I hesitated but gave in so she doesn't think I was going to rip her off.

10 seconds into the BJ I tell her how I like it done.

She ignores me. Tells me she will do it her way.

I ask her again. She refuses. Says she knows how to give a BJ.

Grabs my money and leaves.[/QUOTE]Yesterday I got suspended and then permanently banned from SA.

For use of escort terminology.

Actually it's a good thing. It's gone downhill so much that I was just wasting.

My money on monthly membership and so much work for little return.

Time to find a new mongering site.

[QUOTE=Critias;5848077]I'm 99.9% sure this is Firecracker, a pro from Lancaster (discussed in the Lancaster Escort thread):

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1e8bb8b8-3793-4df3-bb17-b86e9656b577[/URL][/QUOTE]I read that forum occasionally too. You can find the post on Lancaster STG and "firecracker" keyword. Supposedly a good time but definitely a user and questionable teeth. Little spinner.

Firecracker is listed as 5'1 to 5'3. This one says 5'7.

[QUOTE=KenAllen;5850378]Yesterday I got suspended and then permanently banned from SA.

For use of escort terminology.

Actually it's a good thing. It's gone downhill so much that I was just wasting.

My money on monthly membership and so much work for little return.

Time to find a new mongering site.[/QUOTE]Do you remember what you wrote? I've had a decent amount of success on SA and I want to avoid getting banned. Thanks.

Hey Fellow Mongers, some of you may have already seen this but I went to renew my SA profile today and believe it or not they offered me a 20% coupon. It brought the monthly cost down to $90, still excessive for all of the scammers, fakes and bots. Regardless I have stayed active on the site with some continued ongoing success. As most of you know, it takes a lot of sifting and sorting but can be worth it. The discount code for today was VW020 PB.

Best to all!

Runner.

[QUOTE=Pleck2;5851928]Do you remember what you wrote? I've had a decent amount of success on SA and I want to avoid getting banned. Thanks.[/QUOTE]DO NOT talk about the date particulars through SA email. Get the girl to offsite communication ASAP: text, SC, Kik, etc. THEN you can talk about sugar for her time.

Even if the girl asks you something about money, defer and say something like let's talk about that offsite. I have had girls intentionally try to bait me into sex 4 money talk, so beware. Have had to tell girls that I don't want to get banned in order to move such a convo offsite.

SA cannot afford to look like it is an overt prostitution site so I has invested heavily into technology to spot that and ban the members. BOTs scan emails.

So trying to find the "right" words or phrases or things to say is the wrong approach. Just don't do it. Take any "dating particulars" convo offsite!

Hope this helps!

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5852838]DO NOT talk about the date particulars through SA email. Get the girl to offsite communication ASAP: text, SC, Kik, etc. THEN you can talk about sugar for her time.

Even if the girl asks you something about money, defer and say something like let's talk about that offsite. I have had girls intentionally try to bait me into sex 4 money talk, so beware. Have had to tell girls that I don't want to get banned in order to move such a convo offsite.

SA cannot afford to look like it is an overt prostitution site so I has invested heavily into technology to spot that and ban the members. BOTs scan emails.

So trying to find the "right" words or phrases or things to say is the wrong approach. Just don't do it. Take any "dating particulars" convo offsite!

Hope this helps![/QUOTE]I don't know exactly but it's possible bots are scanning messages for escort terminology or some women will report you if you treat them like an escort. That has happened to me a few years ago.

I always tell them to text me to discuss details offline but some will still insist in discussing ppm in the site.

It's been too much work for low return the last year and now there's women are asking for 400-500 for quick fun (if they actually will meet).

2 years ago you could get 3-4 hrs for $300.

5 years ago you could get a quickie BBJ+BBFS for 100 from a college student or single mom.

Social media has ruined it for us guys.

Too many options for these ladies to make money.

Tik tik, * selling pics and videos, desperate guys paying just for dinner companionship.

This girl is on SA and SDM and available [URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?userId=61432753[/URL].

A little pricy but the only person that was found. She's been in the business for quite a while and seems very trustworthy. Close to downtown.

News flash: She lied in her SA profile. It's her. I saw her a week ago, the SA pics match her FB pics. She's short, I'd say 5'3, about 100 lb. Definitely using something, kinda spaced out and yet present the whole time. Decent visit, might repeat.

[QUOTE=Neoled;5851919]Firecracker is listed as 5'1 to 5'3. This one says 5'7.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KenAllen;5853179]It's been too much work for low return the last year and now there's women are asking for 400-500 for quick fun (if they actually will meet).

2 years ago you could get 3-4 hrs for $300.

5 years ago you could get a quickie BBJ+BBFS for 100 from a college student or single mom.

Social media has ruined it for us guys.

Too many options for these ladies to make money.

Tik tik, * selling pics and videos, desperate guys paying just for dinner companionship.[/QUOTE]There is way too much GPS out there. Even below average girls want $$$ and up for an hour. It is our own fault. If some idiots will pay them double and triple what they should be worth, then that becomes the going rate. I have to believe that some guys are just looking for a one time or very occasional roll in the hay. At $$$$ and $$$$$ a pop, you can get to a point where your SB makes far more an hour than you do. LOL.

Entering that tight young new SB recruit for the first time. A moment worth capturing.

WRONG — apologies, they're two different people. Wow they could be twins though.

Dreamygirl88 is Mallory, completely different person than Firecracker. My mistake gentlemen, apologies.

[QUOTE=Critias;5862063]News flash: She lied in her SA profile. It's her. I saw her a week ago, the SA pics match her FB pics. She's short, I'd say 5'3, about 100 lb. Definitely using something, kinda spaced out and yet present the whole time. Decent visit, might repeat.[/QUOTE]

Name is Layna, met her on SDM and not sure if she's on any of the other SB sites. Have any of you spoken with her at all? We've moved on to off-site texts but she's a little too eager. Claiming I'm the only person she's talking to and how much she likes me, even though we've barely spoken. Kind of a huge red flag. Thought I'd check before I just ignore her completely.

[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?userId=70750936[/URL]

[QUOTE=Trying2;5865757]Name is Layna, met her on SDM and not sure if she's on any of the other SB sites. Have any of you spoken with her at all? We've moved on to off-site texts but she's a little too eager. Claiming I'm the only person she's talking to and how much she likes me, even though we've barely spoken. Kind of a huge red flag. Thought I'd check before I just ignore her completely.

[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?userId=70750936[/URL][/QUOTE]Not sure how many have a membership with that site, so wondering if posting a picture or two of Layna might help others recognize her from SA and SB? Help us help you?

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5866138]Not sure how many have a membership with that site, so wondering if posting a picture or two of Layna might help others recognize her from SA and SB? Help us help you?[/QUOTE]Sorry, good point. Here's a couple photos.

[QUOTE=Trying2;5865757]Name is Layna, met her on SDM and not sure if she's on any of the other SB sites. Have any of you spoken with her at all? We've moved on to off-site texts but she's a little too eager. Claiming I'm the only person she's talking to and how much she likes me, even though we've barely spoken. Kind of a huge red flag. Thought I'd check before I just ignore her completely.

[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?userId=70750936[/URL][/QUOTE]Haven't interacted with her but -- funny you should ask -- because she is the only person who has sent a message to my bare-bones profile: viewed me; liked me; asked for a photo. Not sure that helps. Maybe she's just aggressively hunting down leads.

[QUOTE=Trying2;5866225]Sorry, good point. Here's a couple photos.[/QUOTE]She's a rinser. I'm not going to lie, I'm tempted to ask you to set up a meeting with her and me show up to see her so I could tell her off face to face.

Thanks, guys. Funny enough, today I finally got the sob story of money stolen from her in a scam, and she can't pay rent or buy groceries or blah blah blah the usual bull.

I replied with my sympathy and telling her that I hate scams. For instance, because of scams, I never sent money ahead of actually meeting a SB in person and having actual face to face interaction.

Strange, she hasn't written back.

Here is her current SA profile. I'm pretty sure I traded messages with her a few months ago under a different profile that was probably banned LOL. If I remember correctly I think my spider senses were going off that she seemed to be a semi pro and really looking to make a quick buck. Not for me LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f14ba9f4-0f06-4817-a3be-fdcff9be97b7[/URL]

Happy Hunting!

Runner.

[QUOTE=Pleck2;5867215]Haven't interacted with her but -- funny you should ask -- because she is the only person who has sent a message to my bare-bones profile: viewed me; liked me; asked for a photo. Not sure that helps. Maybe she's just aggressively hunting down leads.[/QUOTE]

I texted with Layna quite a bit a couple weeks ago. Pictures are real and I verified them. She kept saying she'd see me but wanted $50 for an Uber, couldn't afford gas, didn't want to drive, etc. I think she's just trying to make a quick easy buck off of people. I'd stay away.

[QUOTE=CooperTown;5874541]I texted with Layna quite a bit a couple weeks ago. Pictures are real and I verified them. She kept saying she'd see me but wanted $50 for an Uber, couldn't afford gas, didn't want to drive, etc. I think she's just trying to make a quick easy buck off of people. I'd stay away.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I definitely got the same impression after three different sob stories on consecutive days, and after each time I simply apologized for her bad luck, she stopped messaging me.

I'm more in Central PA, so I didn't want a regular SB. I was really just hoping to find an UTR girl in Philly to have a fun night with when I'm in town occasionally. So far I've either found scammers or girls wanting 5-6. Oh well.

Some girls have everything one would want. Cute. Lithe. Energetic. Funny. Accommodating. Curious. Adventurous. Skillful. Sexy. Coy. Luscious. Feisty. Playful. Supple. Clever. Adorable. Affectionate. Adaptable. Creative. Daring. Free-Spirited. Imaginative. Lively. Passionate. Perky. Resourceful. Spontaneous. Stimulating. Talented. Vibrant. Likes to call me "Daddy" in a sultry and teasing way and does anything I want. Definitely a KEEPER!

Does anyone have any experience with Berlyn profile name? See picture attached.

Thinking about messaging but wondering if it is a scam.

Gents, see this long post about China scams on Seeking.

Beware.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=5888174&viewfull=1[/URL]#post5888174.

[QUOTE=FTP1999;5888185]Gents, see this long post about China scams on Seeking.

Beware.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=5888174&viewfull=1[/URL]#post5888174.[/QUOTE]Scams have infiltrated almost everything on line today. Another good reason I prefer finding my own SBs in the wild.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;5887291]Some girls have everything one would want. Cute. Lithe. Energetic. Funny. Accommodating. Curious. Adventurous. Skillful. Sexy. Coy. Luscious. Feisty. Playful. Supple. Clever. Adorable. Affectionate. Adaptable. Creative. Daring. Free-Spirited. Imaginative. Lively. Passionate. Perky. Resourceful. Spontaneous. Stimulating. Talented. Vibrant. Likes to call me "Daddy" in a sultry and teasing way and does anything I want. Definitely a KEEPER![/QUOTE]Hot AF. She looking for another regular? She looks like a home run.

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5888764]Hot AF. She looking for another regular? She looks like a home run.[/QUOTE]I have been seeing her for quite a while. That is unusual for me. I usually get bored with women I see regularly, no matter how good they are. Variety is, after all, the spice of life. But she has qualities that make her consistently satisfying and interesting, and often new and different. So few men or women I know, including me, have that ability. So, while our age difference really makes it highly unlikely this will ever be other than a business relationship, I am pleased with the continuation. Does she have other regulars? Haven't asked and don't care. I see plenty of other women, although she never asks about that, either. We accept this for what it is for as long as it works for both of us. Does she want other regulars? She has never brought it up. If she wants this, she is no wallflower and I am sure she would ask. However, when I tire of her, which will be inevitable but not any time soon that I can see, I am sure there will be a very long line to fill my shoes.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;5887291]Some girls have everything one would want. Cute. Lithe. Energetic. Funny. Accommodating. Curious. Adventurous. Skillful. Sexy. Coy. Luscious. Feisty. Playful. Supple. Clever. Adorable. Affectionate. Adaptable. Creative. Daring. Free-Spirited. Imaginative. Lively. Passionate. Perky. Resourceful. Spontaneous. Stimulating. Talented. Vibrant. Likes to call me "Daddy" in a sultry and teasing way and does anything I want. Definitely a KEEPER![/QUOTE]Excellent find.

She's a gem!

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Heads up,

This one is a scammer.

I broke the cardinal rule of Sugaring for the first time, ever, for her.

DON'T SEND MONEY BEFORE YOU MEET HER.

She had a good story, got me. I was stupid.

Maybe you can learn from my stupid mistake.

Her profile name is Berlyn.

She gives the name Amber.

Her PayPal is Amber23Xx. I know the PayPal last name but can't put it here due to site rules.

See attached profile shot.

Don't be fooled like I was.

[QUOTE=FTP1999;5901769]Heads up,

This one is a scammer.

I broke the cardinal rule of Sugaring for the first time, ever, for her.

DON'T SEND MONEY BEFORE YOU MEET HER.

She had a good story, got me. I was stupid.

Maybe you can learn from my stupid mistake.

Her profile name is Berlyn.

She gives the name Amber.

Her PayPal is Amber23Xx. I know the PayPal last name but can't put it here due to site rules.

See attached profile shot.

Don't be fooled like I was.[/QUOTE]There is LOTS of this happening: both on the internet and in person. Some SBs want to get paid for a meet. Are you kidding me? Pay to MEET some girl? Don't be a sap. NEVER EVER pay a SB before the panties hit the floor.

PS: Most scammers want gift cards and then you are sunk. But you can dispute a PayPal payment. Tell PayPal you never received the "product" purchased. The onus is on the seller to produce proof it was "shipped." You can get your money back by filing a claim, and you have 180 days to do so. The scammer has no seller protection without a waybill for a product shipped or a tracking letter for a service delivered. Legitimate providers of goods and services have these, and this scammer obviously won't and you will get your money back in a claim. If the scammer gets enough of these she will be banned from PayPal.

Everyone here should send this scammer a dollar and dispute it. I will. It will serve her right for being stupid enough to use PayPal, and arrogant enough to be a scammer.

This one wants me to send her money to buy a dress and get her nails done before meeting. I told her I'm a former Vegas casino dealer and not stupid. She then said that she's from NYC and guys always pay for that. I said then move back to there because that doesn't play in Delco.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8e3b2be7-7170-4b20-852d-ad8d7025b9ad[/URL]