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It's a false sense of security, the same guys are bare backing all of these girls. From the $20 streetwalkers to $300 brazilian imports. You can only protect yourself by wearing a cover. And even then it won't protect you from the genital warts all over their balls and herpes spreading down to their thighs.
[QUOTE=Crap9;5120175]With all the drug use talk, I guess now would be a good time to ask.
I like sticking to the higher end providers to minimize the blowback on things like them going raw, needle sharing, and other bad habits that could effect me and my personal health and wellbeing due to them not being forthcoming 100%.
So, what's the allure of the dopesick fuckups in nototells?
No judgements, merely looking for edification. Is it budget? Feel like your helping someone out? Thrill of using a cheap *****?
Genuinely curious about the full spectrum of hobbyists and why we do what we do.[/QUOTE]Strictly depends on who's available when I'm ready.
Would I like a high class working girl that's clean, professional and beautiful? Shit yeah. Trouble is they're few and far between. If they even exist around here.
I usually have a pretty small window to indulge so I go with who's got a recent ad and looks good enough and will answer a text.
[QUOTE=HoundDoug;5120505]So I didn't get a response to this, so TOFTT. Isabelle is quite sweet, petite, has baby damage (if that bothers some), tries to put you at ease, and doesn't have a croaky voice like I feared. Angel looked a shade prettier but had an air of nervousness about her and let Isabelle or me take the lead. Both seemed clean.
No kissing, no DATY, no Fingering either of them, CBJ and CFS for both and had to change covers when going from one snatch to the other. Didn't ask about rimming or greek. Didn't seem likely given the other rules.
They don't play with each other, one would use the vibrator or let me use the vibrator on them while I fuck the other. Isabelle generally starts off with a CBJ and Angel will fuck after. I got the CBJ from both, had angel ride me while I played with Isabelle and then flipped her over for doggy. Changed covers and finished in Isabelle in mish. Isabelle got into it and liked watching her firend get mounted and fucked. Not sure yet if I'd recommend, I like to incorporate kissing and fingering.
Anyone have other duo recommendations?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. Sounds like a pretty lame time tbh. And I'm sure the damage was steep. That being said, I was on the fence over Isabelle but now gone go give her a try.
Hope you find a good duo!
[QUOTE=WinterKnight;5119779]Not all. I know of one who did not and does not use. But she's out of the life forever.[/QUOTE]Most guys wouldn't know the difference between a track mark and an insect bite. These girls can hid it a 101 ways.
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5120043]Several gals I "knew" absolutely had no track marks because their use was limited to opioids taken orally.[/QUOTE]So you inspected between their toes, their neck, armpit, etc? Most guys think girls only shoot up in their elbow but 80% of them shoot up in their left hand. There was a stripper I use to see at BT's a lot, I never seen her tracks marks until I seen her OTC without make-up to cover up the back of her hand.
[QUOTE=HeadsUp313;5121008]Most guys wouldn't know the difference between a track mark and an insect bite. These girls can hid it a 101 ways.[/QUOTE]They know guys freak out about it so definitely.
[QUOTE=Crap9;5120115]Exceptions indeed. Some don't use anything stronger than weed. Having a background in substance abuse treatment and therapies you learn the tics and tricks.
I've found the cheaper the provider the stronger the drugs. Granted there are a few on the higher end that might use, and don't exhibit anything in session, but like I said, rare. We can all easily agree that the further down the payscale the more drugs, harder drugs, abuse, and general fuck ups there are.
That's the main reason I stick with the higher end broads. Not a 100% guarantee, but damn close to it. [b]I'd rather sling my money at a girl that's going to use the funds to dig her way out of a financial hole rather than use the money to fall further down her personal hell-hole of an addiction[/b].[/QUOTE]Well said.
I've seen providers (the old boards) that had a full time jobs and still hooked just because they like to fuck and shop LOL.
[QUOTE=DownRiverRat;5120146]Every broad that posts on STG or LC is on some type of Dope stronger than weed. At minimum there doing coke & popping pills, most are on that dog food & smoking rocks or meth.[/QUOTE]Agreed, 99% of the online classified metro Detroit BP type girls are junkies with internet access. The day they lose their phone will be the day they get 10 toes down (walk the streets).
[QUOTE=Stealth72;5120153]Nah, just better at hiding it, shooting between toes.[/QUOTE]Some of these guys have no idea.
[QUOTE=Crap9;5120175]With all the drug use talk, I guess now would be a good time to ask.
I like sticking to the higher end providers to minimize the blowback on things like them going raw, needle sharing, and other bad habits that could effect me and my personal health and wellbeing due to them not being forthcoming 100%.
[b]So, what's the allure of the dopesick fuckups in nototells?[/b]
No judgements, merely looking for edification. Is it budget? Feel like your helping someone out? Thrill of using a cheap *****?
Genuinely curious about the full spectrum of hobbyists and why we do what we do.[/QUOTE]This is a blue collar site, the guys here like cheap 60 dollar pussy. You won't see too many reviews of providers North of $200, and if you do odds are it's fake, someone just trying to look cool.
[QUOTE=GolDark;5120274]I think her name was Sara? The girl on 23 mile by Shelby township. Communicated via text. She told me to park at a gas station by her place and she would give me directions from there. Wouldn't give out an address to meet because she said some guy was fucking with her. After I got there, she told me where to turn as she walked out from her driveway. Skinny and kinda cute in a hoodie. Services were as described by others here. Said she liked doing it at night since less chances of getting caught by neighbors but day time appointments available if you drive her somewhere secluded (ie, not in her driveway). A little mechanical but gets the job done. Would repeat in a pinch.[/QUOTE]Nice review but you forgot the rate and a link. Yes I know who she is and what she charges but it still doesn't hurt to post it.
[QUOTE=HeadsUp313;5121039]Some of these guys have no idea.[/QUOTE]Maybe it's a chicken and egg thing. If you can determine from her lifestyle, behavior, and observations from within your relationship, that she isn't an IV user, the track marks are a moot issue.
[QUOTE=HeadsUp313;5121052]This is a blue collar site, the guys here like cheap 60 dollar pussy. You won't see too many reviews of providers North of $200, and if you do odds are it's fake, someone just trying to look cool.[/QUOTE]And learned the ropes, and eventually Eros, P4, and l was using PB at that time. Was even here when RS2 K got snatched up. I've worked my way up *to* the 400 to 500 providers, but would be interested to know about boards that cater to the range.
[QUOTE=Other;5119651]Does anybody have any experience with this one?
[URL]https://escortindex.com/ad/detroit/313-544-3/1/3748224[/URL][/QUOTE]You should search names. If you go to this loser and get ripped off, I'll have no pity as I warned everyone clearly here. Not only is she a thief but she stays in a LE hot hotel and purportedly has multiple warrants out for her.
[QUOTE=HeadsUp313;5121033]Well said.
I've seen providers (the old boards) that had a full time jobs and still hooked just because they like to fuck and shop LOL.[/QUOTE]A lot of the high end girls have problems too. They just are not snorting their big lines in front of johns (or off of johns LOL).
I was working on making a young mom into sugar babe one time a couple years back. She had no substance problem. I thought wow, great.
Turned out she was a serious con-artist grifter and got info on me. She was smart and had been a fraud investigator at a bank (really). She started to try to pull money out of my accounts. Exactly when she knew I couldn't look at phone for a couple hours to see any emails or texts or check anything.
I did get it stopped. Later she tried to blackmail me.
As hot as she was, I'd take a drug addict over her anytime.
So don't completely diss addicts. They may steal or run with your cash occasionally, but some are basically good people. Look at Amanda and Fatima.
I'm still going to get back and mess with that * somehow sometime.
[QUOTE=HeadsUp313;5121038]Agreed, 99% of the online classified metro Detroit BP type girls are junkies with internet access. The day they lose their phone will be the day they get 10 toes down (walk the streets).[/QUOTE]Not really. Many if not most don't post their own ads. When we text them its often the bf / pimp that answers back.
[QUOTE=WinterKnight;5119779]Not all. I know of one who did not and does not use. But she's out of the life forever.[/QUOTE]I have known 2 but are out of the life now.
Anyone know about this girl.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/56935753/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Stealth72;5121211]Not really. Many if not most don't post their own ads. When we text them its often the bf / pimp that answers back.[/QUOTE]My point was if it wasn't for the internet everyone of those girls would be walking the streets, true?
I always find it funny that we have Mexicantown, and there is a lack of younger (25-35 yrs old) Latina / Hispanic escorts. Does anybody know of any?
[QUOTE=HeadsUp313;5122334]My point was if it wasn't for the internet everyone of those girls would be walking the streets, true?[/QUOTE]Well if you want to hop in the time machine they'd go back to pimps setting the dates or ads in the Metro Times.
[QUOTE=NotaSexAddict;5121168]You should search names. If you go to this loser and get ripped off, I'll have no pity as I warned everyone clearly here. Not only is she a thief but she stays in a LE hot hotel and purportedly has multiple warrants out for her.[/QUOTE]Escortindex doesn't show names and her LC ad isn't there. Good looking on the heads up about her being a thief.
Honestly I have a pretty good method of not getting stole from. Put the money out on a table when they are naked, don't let them take. Seriously tell them you aren't putting up with any bs. If they start with any bs at all grab the money and leave.
I had a similar situation with Sam she started complaining and trying to rush me. I had to snatch her up and grab my money when she started her complaining after giving me head for like 2 min. And called her dude when I was leaving but he didn't try to do shit. I warned her up front to over text!! Hate that ***** for that. LOL.
[QUOTE=HeadsUp313;5121052]This is a blue collar site, the guys here like cheap 60 dollar pussy. You won't see too many reviews of providers North of $200, and if you do odds are it's fake, someone just trying to look cool.[/QUOTE]That may be the case now but we used to have plenty of reviews of good, clean (or semi clean) providers at and above that rate. The scene has simply nose dived. It's not hard to find solid providers who charge more, but there are fewer of them now than a couple years ago. I've reviewed a lot of providers over the years and most of the ones I saw were in the above $200 range. And most were clean. Just a different time now.
Someone doing pills isn't ideal but is certainly better than fucking someone who shoots up dope. That's asking for trouble (HIV).
[QUOTE=NotaSexAddict;5121168]You should search names. If you go to this loser and get ripped off, I'll have no pity as I warned everyone clearly here. Not only is she a thief but she stays in a LE hot hotel and purportedly has multiple warrants out for her.[/QUOTE]Nothing purported about it. A simple otis search on her shows she is absconding from probation on a felony b & e charge.
[QUOTE=Stealth72;5122604]Nothing purported about it. A simple otis search on her shows she is absconding from probation on a felony b & e charge.[/QUOTE]What's the last 4 of her phone number? I actually want to see her. Lmao.
Who cares about warrants? I assume they all got warrants, not my problem.
[QUOTE=SleRicls;5122559]Escortindex doesn't show names and her LC ad isn't there. Good looking on the heads up about her being a thief.
Honestly I have a pretty good method of not getting stole from. Put the money out on a table when they are naked, don't let them take. Seriously tell them you aren't putting up with any bs. If they start with any bs at all grab the money and leave.
I had a similar situation with Sam she started complaining and trying to rush me. I had to snatch her up and grab my money when she started her complaining after giving me head for like 2 min. And called her dude when I was leaving but he didn't try to do shit. I warned her up front to over text!! Hate that ***** for that. LOL.[/QUOTE]The girl in question changes her name and hair color whenever she surfaces. Last winter went by the name Holly and was a brunette. Resurfaced late summer early fall with pink hair going by name Avery. Now is a blond going by Alissa.
Is friends with Mia and will still occasionally hang with her. Otherwise a kinda hit or miss provider with a pimp / bf that's kinda particular about her activities. I know he beat the shit out of her awhile back so she left but went running back of course.
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5121154]Maybe it's a chicken and egg thing. If you can determine from her lifestyle, behavior, and observations from within your relationship, that she isn't an IV user, the track marks are a moot issue.[/QUOTE]Some are just really good at hiding it, or that the addiction hasn't consumed them to the point they can't maintain their hygiene. Some even snort to avoid track marks, but they are just as addicted.
Example: I know one $500 provider a certain Lions lineman likes to see is one big old crack fiend that dabbles in heroin.
[QUOTE=Stealth72;5122612]The girl in question changes her name and hair color whenever she surfaces. Last winter went by the name Holly and was a brunette. Resurfaced late summer early fall with pink hair going by name Avery. Now is a blond going by Alissa.
Is friends with Mia and will still occasionally hang with her. Otherwise a kinda hit or miss provider with a pimp / bf that's kinda particular about her activities. I know he beat the shit out of her awhile back so she left but went running back of course.[/QUOTE]I really liked Avery and I guess I got really lucky with her. Would give me ss for 80 and she pretty much let me have my way with her. Kind of a dead fish but I still pounded it out and her body was pretty solid so it was all good.
Mia is also interesting. A very pretty girl with great asthetetics. Very open minded but like Avery she is also kind of a dead fish.
Both can be good in a pinch though, at least back in the day.
We started off talking about IV users and track marks. You now have drifting into snorting.
Your example is ironic. She is good at hiding it, yet you know.
[QUOTE=Stealth72;5122613]Some are just really good at hiding it, or that the addiction hasn't consumed them to the point they can't maintain their hygiene. Some even snort to avoid track marks, but they are just as addicted.
Example: I know one $500 provider a certain Lions lineman likes to see is one big old crack fiend that dabbles in heroin.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5122701]We started off talking about IV users and track marks. You now have drifting into snorting.
Your example is ironic. She is good at hiding it, yet you know.[/QUOTE]You really shouldn't be in this hobby. You don't have a clue what really goes on or how the game works. I know because they don't try to hide it from me and I'm not gullible.
If you think there is a difference between iv and sniffing heroin I really can't help you. It's simply a matter of timing. The monster always wins out.
[QUOTE=DopeRunner;5122641]I really liked Avery and I guess I got really lucky with her. Would give me ss for 80 and she pretty much let me have my way with her. Kind of a dead fish but I still pounded it out and her body was pretty solid so it was all good.
Mia is also interesting. A very pretty girl with great asthetetics. Very open minded but like Avery she is also kind of a dead fish.
Both can be good in a pinch though, at least back in the day.[/QUOTE]Different Avery. I thought it really odd the girl in question chose that name since I know the other Avery and her hated each other. The original Avery is currently on a vacation.
[QUOTE=TheBro;5122582][b]That may be the case now but we used to have plenty of reviews of good, clean (or semi clean) providers at and above that rate[/b]. The scene has simply nose dived. It's not hard to find solid providers who charge more, but there are fewer of them now than a couple years ago. I've reviewed a lot of providers over the years and most of the ones I saw were in the above $200 range. And most were clean. Just a different time now.
Someone doing pills isn't ideal but is certainly better than fucking someone who shoots up dope. That's asking for trouble (HIV).[/QUOTE]I'm talking about current times and this site, I'm not talking about 20 years ago or EV and AES. The Detroit USASG forum has always been about cheap pussy. You are right about the hobby taking a "nose dive," the private escort boards suck, the SC suck (even before Covid), the streets dried up, etc. And yes, pills aren't as taboo as IV use.
[QUOTE=TokyoJump1;5122347]I always find it funny that we have Mexicantown, and there is a lack of younger (25-35 yrs old) Latina / Hispanic escorts. Does anybody know of any?[/QUOTE]Probably because there is a serious cartel presence in Southwest (that would control all trade of any comodity) and most families living there are the dyed in the wool Good Christian Homes. Don't see a lot of broken homes, single parent households or kids with drug addictions or the molestations that drive most of the girls out before they're 18. Southwest is an entirely different animal, culturally speaking. Just get a couple bags of Teleway's sliders, and cruise Michigan for a mile or so each way. She'll probably be a cracked out white junkie, but for an extra $5 she might let you call her Rosarita. 👍.
[QUOTE=Crap9;5123275]Probably because there is a serious cartel presence in Southwest (that would control all trade of any comodity) and most families living there are the dyed in the wool Good Christian Homes. Don't see a lot of broken homes, single parent households or kids with drug addictions or the molestations that drive most of the girls out before they're 18. Southwest is an entirely different animal, culturally speaking. Just get a couple bags of Teleway's sliders, and cruise Michigan for a mile or so each way. She'll probably be a cracked out white junkie, but for an extra $5 she might let you call her Rosarita. 👍.[/QUOTE]Your kidding right? Plenty of hispanic girls work. Get friendly with any girl, ask her if she knows a Mexican girl that wants to make money. Problem solved.
[QUOTE=Stealth72;5122985]If you think there is a difference between iv and sniffing heroin I really can't help you. It's simply a matter of timing. The monster always wins out.[/QUOTE]Wait, you can snort heroin? You're telling me Quentin Tarantino's lied to me all these years?
Has anyone seen her? And what's the deal with the bareback is she clean, if I see her imma use protection anyway any feedback on this one a be great her prices are low her ass is nice and juicy and she's in my neighborhood.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/56963926/[/URL]
I have said I look for a higher quality than you appear to. No blow & go in an abandoned house, no car dates, no ss, no Street walkers, and no strip clubs. I look into their lives thru social media, I select girls with other income, usually a job. Background checking isn't that hard.
I tolerate some level of drug use, just not IV.
[QUOTE=Stealth72;5122985]You really shouldn't be in this hobby. You don't have a clue what really goes on or how the game works. I know because they don't try to hide it from me and I'm not gullible.
If you think there is a difference between iv and sniffing heroin I really can't help you. It's simply a matter of timing. The monster always wins out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5123350]I have said I look for a higher quality than you appear to. No blow & go in an abandoned house, no car dates, no ss, no Street walkers, and no strip clubs. I look into their lives thru social media, I select girls with other income, usually a job. Background checking isn't that hard.
I tolerate some level of drug use, just not IV.[/QUOTE]TeeTime69, out of all the women you have been with do you think that it's possible that one of them might of used IV drugs sometimes and you just didn't realize it?
[QUOTE=TokyoJump1;5122347]I always find it funny that we have Mexicantown, and there is a lack of younger (25-35 yrs old) Latina / Hispanic escorts. Does anybody know of any?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Crap9;5123275]Probably because there is a serious cartel presence in Southwest (that would control all trade of any comodity) and most families living there are the dyed in the wool Good Christian Homes. Don't see a lot of broken homes, single parent households or kids with drug addictions or the molestations that drive most of the girls out before they're 18. Southwest is an entirely different animal, culturally speaking. Just get a couple bags of Teleway's sliders, and cruise Michigan for a mile or so each way. She'll probably be a cracked out white junkie, but for an extra $5 she might let you call her Rosarita. 👍.[/QUOTE]Out of the 25 years I've been picking up girls in Southwest I can count on one hand how many Latino SW I've picked up.
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5123350]I have said I look for a higher quality than you appear to. No blow & go in an abandoned house, no car dates, no ss, no Street walkers, and no strip clubs. I look into their lives thru social media, I select girls with other income, usually a job. Background checking isn't that hard.
I tolerate some level of drug use, just not IV.[/QUOTE]They must work you so easily. Wow, just wow.