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[QUOTE=Ron M;1859532]Just for the Hell of it, I walked in. Greeted by an older lady. Just asked basic questions about their Massage and left. Will never go here or any other AMP for a Massage. Hope no other AMPs open up in Wrigleyville and this one quietly goes away.[/QUOTE]What did you ask and what were the answers that got you mad?
Not that I am an expert by any means but in lieu of revealing provider information I thought I would contribute to this forum in a different way. It's not that I am opposed to providing this information, it is just that I do not maintain this information. The reason being, for me, I enjoy the thrill of the hunt and the uncertainty of whether I leave happy or not. So I rarely go to the same place more than a time or two before I get bored and move on. So what I thought I would do is to provide my tips on staying safe and leaving happy 95% of the time. Below is what has kept me safe legally and physically for the last 10+ years. Again, your results may vary.
When I look for a place to go, I tend to check out three different boards 'BPage – Massage, BPage – Body Rub, and CL – Therapeutic massage. When I open an ad, I first look for indications that this provider may be willing provide more than a basic massage. Obviously the first thing I look at is the picture, but place very little credence on photos because 98% are fakes. However, if a picture appeals to my taste, I tend to read. When I read, I look for word 'Come' Example. 'Come give us a try and spoil yourself at same time. ' That play on that word, in most cases is all it take for me to think I have a pretty good shot at leaving happy. However, before I go, I come here (USA Sex Guide) to look for rip offs and others who have TOFTT and left unhappy. If I see no recent posting telling me not to go, I move forward. I tend to ignore postings that might be a few years old because the turnover in MP management.
If address is not posted, I call but I generally do not make an appointment (at that time) but inquire about walk-in possibilities. I usually can tell from their voice, whether Asian, Latin, white, or black. If it meets my personal taste for the day, I move forward. Once I have an address, I go to Google Maps, plug in the address and get down to a street level view. I then do my best to see about parking, main entrance, busy streets and etc. If my gut tells me yes, I move forward, if not, I don't. Always trust your gut. Always.
When entering towards a new place, I always think my odds are 51/49 that I will leave happy.
Once near the place I look for certain things, such as, any nosey neighbors or businesses that might call Uncle Leo, and etc. If the place has an alley, I may drive around back to look for a back door. I always think safety first. On a few occasions, I even have driven around the block looking for Uncle Leo.
At the door, if locked, while I feel vulnerable waiting for them to open I see a locked door as a good sign. If open, I rarely go in, this is not just for safety, but if open, my experience has been the MP is more legit than not, if it is locked, it is a decent indication that more might be happening on the other side.
Once inside, I look for talent and how they might be dressed. If somewhat provocative, my mental odds increase. If a complete turn off, I have left. Sometimes, a. 4 in looks is a 1. 0 on service. When the time comes to pay house fee, I always pay in cash. No trace, but I also make it obvious to the attendant that I also have tip money. Not flaunting, they are smart and they are looking.
Once inside the room, before getting undressed. I separate in one pocket .4 for a HJ and have more in another pocket if additional menu items become available.
After getting undressed, I tend to sit on the table, not hiding a thing, so when the masseuse enters she 'sees' before I turn over to lay stomach down on the table. If asked how I like my massage, I normally tell them soft. I just think they take that to mean, he is here for more than a good hard massage. It is kind of like a secret communication of sorts.
When lying on the table, my hands are normally dangling down with my elbow slightly outside the contours of the table.
As the massage starts, I look for certain signs that are indications that things are going 'my way' such as. A towel, or lack of one. If no towel is used to cover, odds are increased that something good may happen. However, many therapist start with a towel till they are certain about you or as part of their normal massage routine. So while no towel is good, having a towel is not indication of anything bad. Another sign is. Them allowing me to touch their leg as they are massaging me. If I touch them, and they move away, right away, I feel my odds are less that 50% that this massage will end happy. If they do not mind, I continue, but I am also respectful and not 'handsy'. Another good signal that when received is when they move to the side and push their body against my slightly extended bent elbow. I tend to think they are testing you to see if you move away. If you do not, I believe they believe things are good.
Then the obvious, if any kind of teasing occurs, well, then my odds just increased by 90% that I will leave happy.
On the flip, if they avoid little blu, I tend to touch myself first and while my hand is in the area. As they massage. I gently guide their hand in that direction. Once they touch. 100% you will leave happy.
How happy is based on their skill. The biggest turn off for me is when menu options come up and they stop till you 'pay in advance' But, I am generally not there for much more that a HJ so rarely does that happen.
If the worst does happen and I leave unhappy, I do not, I just give them .1 or .2 for a tip depending on the actual massage.
Just thought I would share.
Blu
[QUOTE=Nudus81; 1860087]Fortunately it is curable with antibiotics. Most likely source was Pine Tree, but could have also been Korean Palace.
You play with fire long enough you get burned and can lose everything you care about. I'm done with the hobby!
At least it wasn't the LEO community.[/QUOTE]What did you get?
[QUOTE=OldTime;1860310]What did you ask and what were the answers that got you mad?[/QUOTE]I just asked how much was a Massage and the hours they were open. I just wanted to look at the place since it's only 10 minutes away from me. And I was Bored. Besides I'd already seen my Provider this past Tuesday. So how can I be Mad? LOL
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[QUOTE=Sal Minella; 1861489]Ron, we get it, you think you are some kind of superstar and you have the greatest provider ever. Enough with all the cynical posts on every forum and tooting your own horn about how great your provider is.
Please don't respond with something that I am just in a bad mood because I don't have a great provider keeping me happy like you do. Don't even bother trying to argue with me, it will fall on deaf ears. I have a feeling others feel like you're nothing, but a nuisance lately too so I thought I'd say something. If I'm the only one sick of you then so be it.[/QUOTE]Well said buddy I'm sure a lot people here agree with you.
[QUOTE=Nudus81; 1860087]Fortunately it is curable with antibiotics. Most likely source was Pine Tree, but could have also been Korean Palace.
You play with fire long enough you get burned and can lose everything you care about. I'm done with the hobby!
At least it wasn't the LEO community.[/QUOTE]What happened? I'm curious to know, is there anything I should look out for in any of the recent places you've visited.
[QUOTE=SgtPerv;1856906]That is normal AMP FS price, if you got less then it was a bad deal. Normal AMP price is .4 HJ .8 BJ and 120 FS paid as tip plus house fee.[/QUOTE]This is an invaluable tip to Newbies. Thank you!
[QUOTE=SgtPerv;1856906]That is normal AMP FS price, if you got less then it was a bad deal. Normal AMP price is .4 HJ .8 BJ and 120 FS paid as tip plus house fee.[/QUOTE]In my experience, I agree with the. 4 for a HJ, with some but not unlimited roaming. I sometimes pay. 6 if she is fully nude, though.
Agree here. If fully nudity and roaming, .60 is ok.
[QUOTE=Dangerously;1864369]In my experience, I agree with the. 4 for a HJ, with some but not unlimited roaming. I sometimes pay. 6 if she is fully nude, though.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GotMilf;1857024]Yes, there is an "Anna" there. (And at every other AMP for that matter. LOL!) Don't know if she's been there too long. I've only been going there for about 6 mos, so I'm not a veteran. I've also dreamt about Casey and Mickey. And a few others whos names I can't remember. The "Anna" I dreamt about was taller and thin with a great rack and great skills.[/QUOTE]Bro,
I got you! The Anna who was there a few years ago had been working at a little place on a side street off Van Buren. Don't remember the name of the place right now. Anyway, thanks!
[QUOTE=Luv Nooke2; 1865175]Bro,
I got you! The Anna who was there a few years ago had been working at a little place on a side street off Van Buren. Don't remember the name of the place right now. Anyway, thanks![/QUOTE]I believe that place was called Alice's. Least ways it was owned by Alice. And Anna worked their. Do you know where she is presently working? I loved that place on Green Street. Each room had a shower. Anna used to take shower with me. Place their now is called "Oxygen". I've not been able to figure out if legit or not. A few indicators when I've talked to them that may be xtra's, but I have not gone. PM with any info on Anna or Oxygen. Have a good one.
The AMP on halsted in the w. Loop has all the aesthetic characteristics of every other. Thinking about toftt and seeing what it's all about. Has anyone heard anything about this place? Please pm with any helpful insight.
[QUOTE=Chimonger;1859396]Visited NL and was pleasantly surprised. Went right before close so one girl was there. Her name was michelle. Cute. Late 20's, thin with long legs, small see. 60 door, massage was great and the flip even better. No talk of tips. Allowed lots of roaming with a really great he. At the end gave her 60 for the extra effort. Overall a great experience and I'm sure more is available on the menu. I was flying high and felt awesome coming out but a couple days later thought about the total damage and felt a little like it was a bit high. 120 for a massage and he seems high as you could get FS at an apt for 140-160. Apt typically give shitty massages if anything at all but you do get FS. Toally debatable which is better. I enjoy ed nl and michelle was great but still think 120 out the door is a bit high for massage with he. Might repeat but looking for other gems.[/QUOTE]Don't be so hard on yourself. You tipped what you thought she deserved. You probably could have tipped .4 and gotten away with it, but you did get a quality massage that was worth the door fee. I only feel ripped off when the massage is mediocre regardless of the HE. Then I feel like I wasted 45 mins of my time and money. And as far as other hidden gems, you might want to try NH on Lincoln. You're going to be spending. 110 for an hour w / TS, but its always a consistently great massage with varying results on the HE. I also hear that the two places in Belvedere give more of a GFE for under. 100. But it's a hike.
Today's a holiday for many of us mongers. Do you think it's a good day for an AMP visit? Would the MPs be any more or less busy?
Archer Spa: got 4 hand, but one of the girls was clearly sick, and stupid me, I did not demand that they get me a different masseuse. Spent the whole time covering my mouth and nose to keep from getting sick. Also, the sheet on the table smelled bad. Won't be back.
Halsted Spa: Drew middle-aged woman who didn't do much of anything in her hour with me. I seem to recall hands passing over my neck, back, and legs. But it was too.
Light to be therapeutic.
Anyone know what happened to the woman (Lily or Leelee?) at the old acupuncture place on archer?
Same experiences in the burbs lately too. No pressure even if you tell them. Too much oil / lotion and bad attitudes.
[QUOTE=Chi Troll; 1867494]Archer Spa: got 4 hand, but one of the girls was clearly sick, and stupid me, I did not demand that they get me a different masseuse. Spent the whole time covering my mouth and nose to keep from getting sick. Also, the sheet on the table smelled bad. Won't be back.
Halsted Spa: Drew middle-aged woman who didn't do much of anything in her hour with me. I seem to recall hands passing over my neck, back, and legs. But it was too.
Light to be therapeutic.
Anyone know what happened to the woman (Lily or Leelee?) at the old acupuncture place on archer?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chi Troll; 1867494]Archer Spa: got 4 hand, but one of the girls was clearly sick, and stupid me, I did not demand that they get me a different masseuse. Spent the whole time covering my mouth and nose to keep from getting sick. Also, the sheet on the table smelled bad. Won't be back.
Halsted Spa: Drew middle-aged woman who didn't do much of anything in her hour with me. I seem to recall hands passing over my neck, back, and legs. But it was too.
Light to be therapeutic.
Anyone know what happened to the woman (Lily or Leelee?) at the old acupuncture place on archer?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DMichaels69;1867680]Same experiences in the burbs lately too. No pressure even if you tell them. Too much oil / lotion and bad attitudes.[/QUOTE]Seems as if the AMP quality in the Chicago area, already average at its' best, is getting worse. Add on greedy girls wanting more than the standard for tips and it's no wonder there's a lot of griping. I sure wish I could've started going to AMPs 10-20 years ago; judging by the reminisces of the veteran mongers, that's when it seemed better. Am I right? And if so, can we ever get back to those good days?
[QUOTE=OPIllini;1869284]Seems as if the AMP quality in the Chicago area, already average at its' best, is getting worse. Add on greedy girls wanting more than the standard for tips and it's no wonder there's a lot of griping. I sure wish I could've started going to AMPs 10-20 years ago; judging by the reminisces of the veteran mongers, that's when it seemed better. Am I right? And if so, can we ever get back to those good days?[/QUOTE]For what you guys pay to go to these AMPs and get lousy service, you could find a Reliable Provider that would cost a little more. And you'd get a lot better service. If you guys are going to these AMPs just for the Thrill of being with an Asian Girl, to me this seems like a Rip-Off. If you want the "Best Bang For The Buck", go with a Provider. Just my 2 cents. Oh. About going back to the "Good Old Days?" It would be Great. But it ain't going to happen.
[QUOTE=MoanyNaomi;1866126]The AMP on halsted in the w. Loop has all the aesthetic characteristics of every other. Thinking about toftt and seeing what it's all about. Has anyone heard anything about this place? Please pm with any helpful insight.[/QUOTE]You mean Green?
[QUOTE=Sxy Joker;1869532]You mean Green?[/QUOTE]Yeah that one can't tell if it's legit or not. Guess I might havta find out.
[QUOTE=OPIllini;1869284]Seems as if the AMP quality in the Chicago area, already average at its' best, is getting worse. Add on greedy girls wanting more than the standard for tips and it's no wonder there's a lot of griping. I sure wish I could've started going to AMPs 10-20 years ago; judging by the reminisces of the veteran mongers, that's when it seemed better. Am I right? And if so, can we ever get back to those good days?[/QUOTE]Too many negative factors these days. 10 20 years ago the Asian women coming here were from a culture where the man was king. Now that prosperity, education and womens lib has hit Asia the women coming here as sex workers have a completely different attitude about their work, they all want to be snotty pampered American girls. I'm really glad I am not looking for a wife / girlfriend these days. There are still a few ladies out there with the old school values but they are very few and far between.
Add to that the fact that the govenment is on a jihad against pleasure for sale and the legal bullshit is out of control. Grim time to be a hobbyist. I don't think we will ever see a time again in the US when you will be able to walk into an AMP and be guaranteed a great time for a reasonable price.
The last really good times I had were around 2003 with a couple of Chinese honeys who hopped right on afteri gave them a little a little licking / fingering. And that was after "inteviewing" probably 20 girls a year for 3 or 4 years. The economy being what it is today who can afford to do a proper search for golden oppotunities?
Snotty and pampered is a great way to describe it and agree with old school being few and far between.
[QUOTE=Past Tense; 1870824]Too many negative factors these days. 10 20 years ago the Asian women coming here were from a culture where the man was king. Now that prosperity, education and womens lib has hit Asia the women coming here as sex workers have a completely different attitude about their work, they all want to be snotty pampered American girls. I'm really glad I am not looking for a wife / girlfriend these days. There are still a few ladies out there with the old school values but they are very few and far between.
Add to that the fact that the govenment is on a jihad against pleasure for sale and the legal bullshit is out of control. Grim time to be a hobbyist. I don't think we will ever see a time again in the US when you will be able to walk into an AMP and be guaranteed a great time for a reasonable price.
The last really good times I had were around 2003 with a couple of Chinese honeys who hopped right on afteri gave them a little a little licking / fingering. And that was after "inteviewing" probably 20 girls a year for 3 or 4 years. The economy being what it is today who can afford to do a proper search for golden oppotunities?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ron M;1859532]Just for the Hell of it, I walked in. Greeted by an older lady. Just asked basic questions about their Massage and left. Will never go here or any other AMP for a Massage. Hope no other AMPs open up in Wrigleyville and this one quietly goes away.[/QUOTE]Is this meant to be informative or helpful in any way? I honestly don't get it. If there was a problem there, please share. If you don't like AMPs at all, then you could post this about every AMP in the city and still none of us would benefit.
I dreamed I decided to pay a visit to Pine tonight since I was in the area. I was torn if I should stop in as my last 2 visits were below avg.
The ads with the new talent made me stop in. I did draw a younger, cute girl so initially I was very happy. She did a nice job on my back and ok on my legs. There was no flip with a massage at all. When she asked me what I wanted, I was thinking, wow, that seemed really quick. At first she told me no more menu, too many girls fired for reviews being posted. She then told me, I'll be right back and to put the money on counter. She came back in, counted the FS donation (1st time that happened here) and gave me a disappointed look? My change from the massage was on the other table, she walked over picked it up and asked if she could have it.
I was thinking this better be good, body was decent. Thin girl, be-see top, Maybe a 6-7 being generous. Overall it was just ok, pretty much a touch me not and only mish available.
I got back to my car and saw that I was in and out in 35 mins. WTF? There worried about reviews, and you mentioning a name but I dropped two bills for rushed ok service.
Time to get the priorities straight, I've dropped near 6 on my last 3 crappy visits to this place. Stop worrying about reviews and start providing service worthy of the amount of money that's dropped here.
Ok, I feel better now.
Agree here. Asking for more money like that is ridiculous. That sours the whole experience.
[QUOTE=Jovi69; 1876586]I dreamed I decided to pay a visit to Pine tonight since I was in the area. I was torn if I should stop in as my last 2 visits were below avg.
The ads with the new talent made me stop in. I did draw a younger, cute girl so initially I was very happy. She did a nice job on my back and ok on my legs. There was no flip with a massage at all. When she asked me what I wanted, I was thinking, wow, that seemed really quick. At first she told me no more menu, too many girls fired for reviews being posted. She then told me, I'll be right back and to put the money on counter. She came back in, counted the FS donation (1st time that happened here) and gave me a disappointed look? My change from the massage was on the other table, she walked over picked it up and asked if she could have it.
I was thinking this better be good, body was decent. Thin girl, be-see top, Maybe a 6-7 being generous. Overall it was just ok, pretty much a touch me not and only mish available.
I got back to my car and saw that I was in and out in 35 mins. WTF? There worried about reviews, and you mentioning a name but I dropped two bills for rushed ok service.
Time to get the priorities straight, I've dropped near 6 on my last 3 crappy visits to this place. Stop worrying about reviews and start providing service worthy of the amount of money that's dropped here.
Ok, I feel better now.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tommy Anonymus;1871138]Is this meant to be informative or helpful in any way? I honestly don't get it. If there was a problem there, please share. If you don't like AMPs at all, then you could post this about every AMP in the city and still none of us would benefit.[/QUOTE]This guy hasnt posted anything helpful in over two months. All of his posts are worthless comments that clog up the board. I think hes just trying to pad his posts or something.
[blue]Then why don't you guys put him on your ignore list? It takes more effort to whinge about him than it does to never see another one of his posts.
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To the swarthy gentleman who I very briefly met and spoke to on Saturday, September 21st at 12:30pm*at a Chinatown area massage place. Could you please send me a pm?
Has anyone been to Crystal recently and do they have any younger attendants? Last two times I was there, in May, both were easily in there forties. I would rather make the drive out to pine before getting a massage from someone that could be my mother in law. I also recently heard of a Spa in Michigan city. Any one have info? I am going to check out the NWI board.
Last time I was at Crystal, I had an attendant, not bad looking, but had the stones to waltz over and grab my pants for the tip, then wanted way more for the standard finish. I have not been back since. Hard to tell her age with all the make up on and a fake rack.
[QUOTE=E6671;1881694]Has anyone been to Crystal recently and do they have any younger attendants? Last two times I was there, in May, both were easily in there forties. I would rather make the drive out to pine before getting a massage from someone that could be my mother in law. I also recently heard of a Spa in Michigan city. Any one have info? I am going to check out the NWI board.[/QUOTE]
Well I'm thinking of a trip to chinatown in first week of October. I have not read much about the AMPs there.
Does anyone have any help or recomendations for me.
Dropped by Ruby Spa the other day.
Took a 1/2 hour massage for 40. I drew a rather heavy and ugly masseuse. Turns out she gave a nice soft touch massage. Kept my eyes closed the whole time.
Took care of business for 1. Total.
I doubt I'll be back. I prefer Gunnison Spa because you get a very good massage first.
This is the world's record for shortest time between ending a session and posting comments about it. I go into a little more detail on other forum sites. This can only mean it contains a negative review, but it's fair. I've been in this forum over a year. I've seen these Latinas advertise for almost a year. This is the first time someone answered the phone. This place advertises in the BP Body Rub section, and really that's all you are going to get in this case for $40. Their minimum tip suggested when I called was $60, in this case even with the HE, is really overpriced. Before I got up from the table, I knew I would not be returning. I did complain a little about not even getting the 30 minutes. I strongly suggest, skip this one.
[url]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/40-latina-throbbing-body-rubs-25/14182021[/url]
At least you got some business taken care of for 1. I have gotten decent service for that at Ruby. Just left nearby "$40 Throbbing Latinas" and I won't go back there. Ruby or any placeon Archer gives much better service for 1, even when they are not at their best.
[QUOTE=RogerC; 1882911]Dropped by Ruby Spa the other day.
Took a 1/2 hour massage for 40. I drew a rather heavy and ugly masseuse. Turns out she gave a nice soft touch massage. Kept my eyes closed the whole time.
Took care of business for 1. Total.
I doubt I'll be back. I prefer Gunnison Spa because you get a very good massage first.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Albert47; 1881754]Well I'm thinking of a trip to chinatown in first week of October. I have not read much about the AMPs there.
Does anyone have any help or recomendations for me.[/QUOTE]I was wondering the same. But by reading older post China town seems like a hit or miss. Good luck
[QUOTE=Jayp80; 1748882][url]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/60-chicas-masagistas-laidys-massage-26/15908919[/url]
Never tried this place but if you look at the other ads by the same users you see some ads for transsexual escorts the pictures seem very similar so you make your own assumptions.[/QUOTE]ALL of those pics are of a 100% male, reverse look-up and viola!
Just looking to see how my old an best spot was doing so far? Lisa and Nivea is there name and no playing around is there game. LOL 312. XXX. 1443 sexy LMP's here I just wanted to here any updates on them or if any body had any info on my girls. LOL I know there's a few more but I just a rundown on any experience so if you'd like to share with me or the world inbox me or reply thanks.
The ad is in craigslist along with photo of provider. The location is 333 Wells cross street is Jackson Blvd. They are pretty open with what kind of massages they provide. If you call and make appointment, you can ask the girl (when you arrive at the location) directly what types of massage they offer and she will tell you what specials they offer. Don't go out of your way for this location. I only wanted to point it out as options for those who work near Sears Tower downtown. Name in the title is intentionally misspelled. Look for the similar ad title in CL.
[QUOTE=Xabi Alonso;1886820]The ad is in craigslist along with photo of provider. The location is 333 Wells cross street is Jackson Blvd. They are pretty open with what kind of massages they provide. If you call and make appointment, you can ask the girl (when you arrive at the location) directly what types of massage they offer and she will tell you what specials they offer. Don't go out of your way for this location. I only wanted to point it out as options for those who work near Sears Tower downtown. Name in the title is intentionally misspelled. Look for the similar ad title in CL.[/QUOTE]I live right down the street, can you pm me some deets? Damage / service etc. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Brandon83; 1883610]This is the world's record for shortest time between ending a session and posting comments about it. I go into a little more detail on other forum sites. This can only mean it contains a negative review, but it's fair. I've been in this forum over a year. I've seen these Latinas advertise for almost a year. This is the first time someone answered the phone. This place advertises in the BP Body Rub section, and really that's all you are going to get in this case for $40. Their minimum tip suggested when I called was $60, in this case even with the HE, is really overpriced. Before I got up from the table, I knew I would not be returning. I did complain a little about not even getting the 30 minutes. I strongly suggest, skip this one.
[url]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/40-latina-throbbing-body-rubs-25/14182021[/url][/QUOTE]I'm confused, are you disappointed because the massage was bad or you were expecting more for $40? For a latina massage place, their prices are pretty normal.
With that said I haven't returned since, but only because they don't have a full menu.