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Tl; dr- typically excessive delays, extremely sketchy location, did not see her.

This was my second, and last, attempt to see her. She's pretty open about being freaky and liking CIP. With my home schedule I can only meet certain times of the day so we made arrangements to meet in the morning, 1 hr, bb, 200. I texted exactly on time and said I was omw and gave an accurate eta. I arrive in her town and got the address from hger pretty promptly. I get there and ask for the room number and the bullshit starts. She says to give her 10 minutes and I should have left right then because I knew where this was going.

That 10 minutes turned into 25 which gave me plenty of time to watch the goings on at the sketchy motel. Pimps and hoors walking around arguing, pimps literally going from door to door to check in on their stable or get their cut, two dudes nearly getting into a fist fight, all around a classic, lvery ow-end hookerjoint. I realised I would not be comfortable leaving my car unattended for an hour so I drove away. Got a text asking if I was still there. I said no and said I'd rather do a car date. Not usually my thing but little head was still making some noise about needing attention. She agrees and says another 10 minutes. I text after 15 and it's another 5 before she says she's ready. I said I'll pick her up out front. I go back and wait and get eyeballed by all the pimps and pulled out. I ended up driving past the place a few times and not seeing her. Texted to ask where she was, nothing. I left and 20 miles down the road I get a "where are you" text from her. Overall I wasted 3 hrs on her including travel.

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Tl; dr- typically excessive delays, extremely sketchy location, did not see her.

This was my second, and last, attempt to see her. She's pretty open about being freaky and liking CIP. With my home schedule I can only meet certain times of the day so we made arrangements to meet in the morning, 1 hr, bb, 200. I texted exactly on time and said I was omw and gave an accurate eta. I arrive in her town and got the address from hger pretty promptly. I get there and ask for the room number and the bullshit starts. She says to give her 10 minutes and I should have left right then because I knew where this was going.

That 10 minutes turned into 25 which gave me plenty of time to watch the goings on at the sketchy motel. Pimps and hoors walking around arguing, pimps literally going from door to door to check in on their stable or get their cut, two dudes nearly getting into a fist fight, all around a classic, lvery ow-end hookerjoint. I realised I would not be comfortable leaving my car unattended for an hour so I drove away. Got a text asking if I was still there. I said no and said I'd rather do a car date. Not usually my thing but little head was still making some noise about needing attention. She agrees and says another 10 minutes. I text after 15 and it's another 5 before she says she's ready. I said I'll pick her up out front. I go back and wait and get eyeballed by all the pimps and pulled out. I ended up driving past the place a few times and not seeing her. Texted to ask where she was, nothing. I left and 20 miles down the road I get a "where are you" text from her. Overall I wasted 3 hrs on her including travel.[/QUOTE]You wasted three hours on that? She is gross.

[QUOTE=Solomon19;4974653]Did anyone catch what she was trying to say? Confirming no bb?[/QUOTE]She confirmed that she has a shitty attitude towards other providers that charge less than her. She also confirmed she has a shitty attitude towards men and that she's really not that bright.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4975247]She confirmed that she has a shitty attitude towards other providers that charge less than her. She also confirmed she has a shitty attitude towards men and that she's really not that bright.[/QUOTE]Yep, that's it. Not sure why Kana attacked the $200-$300 hookers, many of them are much better looking than she is and enjoy what they do.

She probably isn't that busy and likes to degrade other hookers.

[QUOTE=Jonderin;4975312]Yep, that's it. Not sure why Kana attacked the $200-$300 hookers, many of them are much better looking than she is and enjoy what they do.

She probably isn't that busy and likes to degrade other hookers.[/QUOTE]Have a link to her?

[QUOTE=Jonderin;4975312]Yep, that's it. Not sure why Kana attacked the $200-$300 hookers, many of them are much better looking than she is and enjoy what they do.

She probably isn't that busy and likes to degrade other hookers.[/QUOTE]Seriously. I mean if you're sucking the dick of a random stranger for $300 or sucking the dick of a random stranger for $500, you're still sucking dick of random strangers for money. You really shouldn't go all holier-than-thou on people doing the exact same thing you do. I mean, it's not like you need a Master's degree for it.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4975589]Seriously. I mean if you're sucking the dick of a random stranger for $300 or sucking the dick of a random stranger for $500, you're still sucking dick of random strangers for money. You really shouldn't go all holier-than-thou on people doing the exact same thing you do. I mean, it's not like you need a Master's degree for it.[/QUOTE]Yup agreed. Funny thing is, best of my knowledge, no one has ever mentioned her here. Maybe that is why is soo upset. She comes here makes a couple inflamatory posts, then goes back to TNA and posts there about this thread so people come look. Two things to note 1 She has WAY too much free time with no one standing in line to see her. 2 She realizes that all publicity is good publicity and is drumming up business. I bet if you visit her she will be more than happy to BB you (bet she will give you a really good discount too).

[QUOTE=Jonderin;4975312]Yep, that's it. Not sure why Kana attacked the $200-$300 hookers, many of them are much better looking than she is and enjoy what they do.

She probably isn't that busy and likes to degrade other hookers.[/QUOTE]It's probably similar supply-demand dynamics hobbyists have, but more from the supply side. As hobbyists most of us are trying to get good service for a reasonable price while many providers want to charge as much as they can get and lower price providers prevent them from charging as much as they feel entitled to get.

It's how most markets work. Sellers charge what buyers are will to pay. I doubt I'll ever pay $500/ hr because that's unreasonable to me, esp considering most providers charge considerably less.

[QUOTE=FastBreakJunk;4975694]It's probably similar supply-demand dynamics hobbyists have, but more from the supply side. As hobbyists most of us are trying to get good service for a reasonable price while many providers want to charge as much as they can get and lower price providers prevent them from charging as much as they feel entitled to get.

It's how most markets work. Sellers charge what buyers are will to pay. I doubt I'll ever pay $500/ hr because that's unreasonable to me, esp considering most providers charge considerably less.[/QUOTE]Well stated! As it is, there are enough quality women who charge between $200 and $240 an hour and give good service. Why the need to pay more than that has always been baffling.

[QUOTE=FastBreakJunk;4975694]It's probably similar supply-demand dynamics hobbyists have, but more from the supply side. As hobbyists most of us are trying to get good service for a reasonable price while many providers want to charge as much as they can get and lower price providers prevent them from charging as much as they feel entitled to get.

It's how most markets work. Sellers charge what buyers are will to pay. I doubt I'll ever pay $500/ hr because that's unreasonable to me, esp considering most providers charge considerably less.[/QUOTE]Yeah I've seen Kana before she bumped her rates to the current ridiculous rate. Is she attractive? Sure. Hot? Nah. I would consider many of the KG girls to be much hotter than her, let alone the BB group. Molly is way way hotter than Kana and was a way better fuck. All inclusive, great attitude and accommodating. Kana on the other hand was a very mechanical transaction. The techniques are all there plus a pretty tight pussy (but not the tightest around regardless of what she thinks) but her attitude stinks. Super entitled and thinks she's smarter than she is. She also gets dry on round 2 (which she really don't want to do either and try to talk you out of it) so fuck her hard enough and you might get lucky like I did to slip the rubber off. Went full throttle when it came off and squirt in her before she could get away. She was not happy for sure but I wasn't planning on seeing her again anyways. Had the gall to ask for additional donation too. Told her I would if she agreed to it before hand and walked out.

[QUOTE=Jonderin;4975312]Yep, that's it. Not sure why Kana attacked the $200-$300 hookers, many of them are much better looking than she is and enjoy what they do.

She probably isn't that busy and likes to degrade other hookers.[/QUOTE]She's probably just salty. Granted, she needs to look up supply and demand curve.

[QUOTE=Jonderin;4975312]Yep, that's it. Not sure why Kana attacked the $200-$300 hookers, many of them are much better looking than she is and enjoy what they do.

She probably isn't that busy and likes to degrade other hookers.[/QUOTE]Considering she doesn't look half as good as the girls that charge the average Seattle rate and she is constantly spamming the board with her ads, I don't think she is as high value as she thinks she is. I don't know why providers attack other providers for something hopefully they do out of their own free will. A girl charging her rate spamming LMA and Weekend sections is sus in terms of quality as well.

[QUOTE=MiniMiniBag;4975875]Considering she doesn't look half as good as the girls that charge the average Seattle rate and she is constantly spamming the board with her ads, I don't think she is as high value as she thinks she is. I don't know why providers attack other providers for something hopefully they do out of their own free will. A girl charging her rate spamming LMA and Weekend sections is sus in terms of quality as well.[/QUOTE]Wow she has a vendetta against this board now.

[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;4976040]Wow she has a vendetta against this board now.[/QUOTE]As I said before, she has no standing because she openly denigrated providers that charge less that she does and she's simply not that bright. They should have left her comment up here so everyone at TNA can see how she thinks other women that charge less than her are dirty pieces of shit. If she's going to whine and moan about something that she can't change then she's also a Drama Queen. Not even going to bother going to the other site to see what she says, it will just be whining because her feelings got hurt.

[QUOTE=BBpornogeek;4975767]Yeah I've seen Kana before she bumped her rates to the current ridiculous rate. Is she attractive? Sure. Hot? Nah. I would consider many of the KG girls to be much hotter than her, let alone the BB group. [/QUOTE]Agree with you. She has a nice petite body but no different than the C and K girls I have seen in the 200-250 range. So not sure who is paying her 500 rate. Must be a Bellevue thing.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4976045]As I said before, she has no standing because she openly denigrated providers that charge less that she does and she's simply not that bright. They should have left her comment up here so everyone at TNA can see how she thinks other women that charge less than her are dirty pieces of shit. If she's going to whine and moan about something that she can't change then she's also a Drama Queen. Not even going to bother going to the other site to see what she says, it will just be whining because her feelings got hurt.[/QUOTE]She said she is going to message people mentioned here to raise their prices. Charming.

[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;4976061]She said she is going to message people mentioned here to raise their prices. Charming.[/QUOTE]I'm sure they'll be real receptive to their competition telling them to raise their prices. She's a real rocket scientist.

[QUOTE=JoeyAnt1971;4976058]Agree with you. She has a nice petite body but no different than the C and K girls I have seen in the 200-250 range. So not sure who is paying her 500 rate. Must be a Bellevue thing[/QUOTE]Kana's def not worth current rate. I met her on SA and she was meh even then. Her friend Lucky offered BBFS for 2 k, which was stupid so I passed and such.

Seeing her today and she's down for BBFS +200 and such.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;4969465]+1 can vouch for that. She is an incredible appointment and does an incredible slide. I have seen her many times and Gosh she really knows what buttons to press. Love seeing her[/QUOTE]Do she do BBFS or just camel slide?

She's down for 2 hrs BBFS cip cia Greek cim swallow msog for 1 k. Bonus she wants to talk dirty in Spani.

I have seen her photos on BP (how long long ago was that now?) in Kitsap county, and now on STG:

[URL]https://tacoma.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/22f-incall-in-kitsap-county-ou/270400383048[/URL]

[QUOTE=RottenRobert;4977217]I have seen her photos on BP (how long long ago was that now?) in Kitsap county, and now on STG:

[URL]https://tacoma.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/22f-incall-in-kitsap-county-ou/270400383048[/URL][/QUOTE]I tineyed but did not find duplicates on the net. Still, pics appear TGTBT. I texted from my burner with no response about a week ago.

[QUOTE=JoeSpaur;4976990]She's down for 2 hrs BBFS cip cia Greek cim swallow msog for 1 k. Bonus she wants to talk dirty in Spani.[/QUOTE]Good for her and her golden pussy. Pass.

[QUOTE=RottenRobert;4977217]I have seen her photos on BP (how long long ago was that now?) in Kitsap county, and now on STG:

[URL]https://tacoma.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/22f-incall-in-kitsap-county-ou/270400383048[/URL][/QUOTE]Little young, but nice looking woman. Rates are excellent also. Too bad so far away, especially if she performs as advertised (and as we want her to).

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;4977332]Good for her and her golden pussy. Pass.[/QUOTE]Hmm, 1 k? I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that I can sell for a reasonable amount!

[QUOTE=MartyByrde;4977360]Hmm, 1 k? I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that I can sell for a reasonable amoun![/QUOTE]Her base is 300/ H. Most providers upsell on both BBFS and Greek. 1 K for both AND 2 hours? That's about par for course these days I think. If it's 1 hour then GPS for sure.

[QUOTE=JoeSpaur;4976730]Seeing her today and she's down for BBFS +200 and such.[/QUOTE]Those tits look amazing, but if you're saying +200 on top of what her ad says (300). That's well into GPS territory.

[QUOTE=BBpornogeek;4977403]Her base is 300/ H. Most providers upsell on both BBFS and Greek. 1 K for both AND 2 hours? That's about par for course these days I think. If it's 1 hour then GPS for sure.[/QUOTE]No way am I going to pay such a crazy amount! As it is, the most I will spend for a 1 hour session is $220, and that must include BBBJ, DATY, DATO, and BBFS (Rimming would be an added bonus). Yes, hard to find women who would accept that much, but they are out there.

[QUOTE=JoeSpaur;4976730]Seeing her today and she's down for BBFS +200 and such.[/QUOTE]So how was she?

[QUOTE=DukeOfExeter;4977626]So how was she?[/QUOTE]+1.

I think I have seen her under a previous name (ellaskye) and it was strictly cfs.

Hope the new name has a new attitude.

[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;4976061]She said she is going to message people mentioned here to raise their prices. Charming.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4976063]I'm sure they'll be real receptive to their competition telling them to raise their prices. She's a real rocket scientist.[/QUOTE]Yeah, what an asshole. Does she really think they'll raise rates just because she tells them to? Providers figure out their rates based on hobbyist response (demand). While I'm sure providers would love to get $500 hr the vast majority know they won't get many (or any) takers at that price. Most providers understand they can attract more potential customers with prices in about the $160-300 hr range. Sure, as I said before, while there might be a few spendthrift hobbyists willing to pay $400-500 hr hopefully they're so few most providers won't expect such prices.

It's basic financial math. If a providers asks for $200 hr and has about 7 sessions per week she makes $1400. If she asks for $400 hr and only has 2 session per week she only makes $800; quite a bit less money. I think most providers understand this and know to keep their rates reasonable.

[QUOTE=FastBreakJunk;4977746]It's basic financial math. If a providers asks for $200 hr and has about 7 sessions per week she makes $1400. If she asks for $400 hr and only has 2 session per week she only makes $800; quite a bit less money. I think most providers understand this and know to keep their rates reasonable.[/QUOTE]This is much too basic and there are tons of other factors that providers have to think about to reach their income goals.

Sure lower rates equals more sessions but she also has to be available more days / hours per week. She has to spend more time vetting potential clients, more days with an incall, spend more on gas / Uber for outcalls, and not to mention she has to fuck 3 x the amount of dudes. I would argue that more sessions also increases the risk of running into LE and bad clients.

Higher rates attract wealthier clientele, the kind that is able to afford multiple hours at $500 per hour easily. Would you rather fuck 5 guys at 200 hour, or spend 2 hours with a wealthy regular?

Maybe she has a civvie job and an extra $800 a week is enough for her.

These girls aren't stupid.

I'm coming off as a white knight, sorry gents.

Happy pooning.

[QUOTE=Raven1855;4977779]This is much too basic and there are tons of other factors that providers have to think about to reach their income goals.

Sure lower rates equals more sessions but she also has to be available more days / hours per week. She has to spend more time vetting potential clients, more days with an incall, spend more on gas / Uber for outcalls, and not to mention she has to fuck 3 x the amount of dudes. I would argue that more sessions also increases the risk of running into LE and bad clients.

Higher rates attract wealthier clientele, the kind that is able to afford multiple hours at $500 per hour easily. Would you rather fuck 5 guys at 200 hour, or spend 2 hours with a wealthy regular?

Maybe she has a civvie job and an extra $800 a week is enough for her.

These girls aren't stupid.

I'm coming off as a white knight, sorry gents.

Happy pooning.[/QUOTE]I've never had an issue with rates. They can charge whatever they want, but I know what I will pay and won't go above my limit. That being said, there I never felt that I "had" to get with a hooker. I don't know if I'm old and jaded, but you can have the most gorgeous woman in the world offer to get with me for $1000 and I'd be like, "no, sorry", I'll go with the above average chick for $300. It's not that I couldn't afford the $1,000; it's simply that a sexual experience isn't worth $1,000 to me. Maybe one day it will be, but probably not in this decade. As I said before, I've been off the hookers / escorts for about a year now and have been using SA where I feel I have a better connection, but if I go back to seeing escorts, I know that there will always be attractive women that provide good service in my price range. Some will charge $500-750 hr, but for every one of those there will be 10 that charge $150-250/ hr.

[QUOTE=DukeOfExeter;4977626]So how was she?[/QUOTE]She ghosted me. LOL. Saw dulce instead and let me fill up all 3 holes in 2 hrs. Muy caliente.

[QUOTE=Raven1855;4977779]Higher rates attract wealthier clientele, the kind that is able to afford multiple hours at $500 per hour easily.
[/QUOTE]I disagree, higher rates won't attract wealthier clientele. Incredible looks, services, and attitude are what sells.

Raising the price of a 1985 Yugo isn't going to attract wealthy buyers. Kana is basically a Yugo. Average looking, doesn't always work.

[QUOTE=Jonderin;4977865]I disagree, higher rates won't attract wealthier clientele. Incredible looks, services, and attitude are what sells.

Raising the price of a 1985 Yugo isn't going to attract wealthy buyers. Kana is basically a Yugo. Average looking, doesn't always work.[/QUOTE]You're free to your opinion but raising prices does have psychological effects, see Peloton sales.

[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/peloton-ceo-says-sales-increased-raised-prices-2245-exercise-bike-132256225.html[/URL]

Also it's funny you bring up Yugo, the 'Worst car in history', because the distinguish has lead to somewhat of a cult following and good examples are so rare now that prices have steadily gone up.

[URL]https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/features/from-the-vault-edmunds-1989-yugo-gvl.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4977805]I've never had an issue with rates. They can charge whatever they want, but I know what I will pay and won't go above my limit. That being said, there I never felt that I "had" to get with a hooker. I don't know if I'm old and jaded, but you can have the most gorgeous woman in the world offer to get with me for $1000 and I'd be like, "no, sorry", I'll go with the above average chick for $300. It's not that I couldn't afford the $1,000; it's simply that a sexual experience isn't worth $1,000 to me. Maybe one day it will be, but probably not in this decade. As I said before, I've been off the hookers / escorts for about a year now and have been using SA where I feel I have a better connection, but if I go back to seeing escorts, I know that there will always be attractive women that provide good service in my price range. Some will charge $500-750 hr, but for every one of those there will be 10 that charge $150-250/ hr.[/QUOTE]Exactly this. I don't understand why we're arguing rates here.

Pay what you want and am willing to pay. Some might be more willing to pay more for no drama. Like Riley and Molly before. They charge ridiculously higher rates but all inclusive, on time, no drama sessions each time. Of course if there are issues being on time, etc. Then the price is not justified. It's like you can buy a TV off Amazon with full white glove delivery from your computer and pay a bit more or go to Costco and lug one home yourself, install it, etc. For a bit less. I absolutely hate wasting time waiting on hookers or getting ghosted. Most of the 400 hookers I've seen so far have always been on time and drama free, even the K-girls where many get bait and switched with grannies, I have not had the issue. I just tell the booker up front, he knows a steady income is better than a 100 random ones. Just like the regular I see, she knows she's guaranteed at least a visit a month and frees up her schedule to match mine.

[QUOTE=Raven1855;4978043]You're free to your opinion but raising prices does have psychological effects, see Peloton sales.

[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/peloton-ceo-says-sales-increased-raised-prices-2245-exercise-bike-132256225.html[/URL]

Also it's funny you bring up Yugo, the 'Worst car in history', because the distinguish has lead to somewhat of a cult following and good examples are so rare now that prices have steadily gone up.

[URL]https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/features/from-the-vault-edmunds-1989-yugo-gvl.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Specific unique cases vs the vast number of companies that barely survive or go out of business each year due to mediocre products and bad pricing. Kana is not unique, she's on par with the $200-$300 prostitutes she was attacking.

You're trying too hard to explain hooker math, it isn't that difficult. Hookers aren't always logical. It's hard for them to put a dollar amount on themselves and some are way off.

I'd say let's get back to the topic of this thread.

[QUOTE=JoeSpaur;4977820]She ghosted me. LOL. Saw dulce instead and let me fill up all 3 holes in 2 hrs. Muy caliente.[/QUOTE]Good choice, I would say Joe. Dulce has a rep that preceeds her and has been known to provide good service. Also, based on pics alone, dulce seems way sexier. Full disclosure, I have not seen either, so just my opinion based on research. There is plenty of evidence pointing to Dulce providing services we want. Whereas little to none for the other. Glad you had a good time.