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Curious about the dayshift at Synn, been there a couple times but its a different vibe and the there's much less push for VIP it seems. Foxy was my goto but it doesn't seem like she's working anymore, any general info would be appreciated but I'm interested in Mercedes and Ava specifically.
While I don't condone her tactics, I think a lot of this was avoidable. First off, don't ever go to a strip club without a set amount of cash. Secondly, it's always best to be clear about what you expect and for how much in the VIP. As an example, last time I was there in a Wednesday, I just told the girls straight up that all I had was 80 bucks, and I just kept saying I wouldn't be able to tip. For one girl, that was enough to get her closer to her obligatory $180 threshold the club requires, and I got a CBJ. No dancing, just straight business. The time before that, the girl promised a good time, and I didn't negotiate. Things got hot and at the end she asked if I had a tip for her so I have like 25 bucks (which was low, I know). Second time with her, I told I had 80 for the VIP and could tip 80, and she said she was cool with that, so we went to the back and got the full service. Long story short, never use a card, always make clear how much you're willing to spend and reiterate that you won't be able to give them any more on top of that number (whatever you're comfortable with). Also, it's good to establish a vibe with them. Don't always go for the hottest chick; go with the one that's trying the hardest. If they don't sit with you for a bit and just do drive by dance requests, it's not going to be a good experience IMO. Live and learn. Paradise is still my club of choice for extras at a reasonable price.
[QUOTE=ClintWoods;6484501]Beware, guys!
I went to Paradise and was approached by Darla, tall, Spanish speaking with a great body. I thought I'd test the goods with a $40 lap dance. She kept insisting (practically begging) for a VIP. After our 3 songs were up, I agree to the VIP (Wednesday special). She took my hand and walked me directly to the VIP, which I thought was strange. She told me "$80 VIP". I told her I need to pay with my CC. She took my hand and walked me to the server and told her "$80 VIP". With CC service charge it was $88 total for a 15-minute VIP. So far so good; right? Wrong!
After I paid, we went to the VIP and she then asked if I was going to use the ATM for her $200 tip. Seriously? After I paid for the VIP and while the clock was ticking, she now wants to negotiate the tip. I told her I don't have my ATM card and I don't want to charge my CC again. I told her all I have is $40 cash. She then said, "Sorry; no VIP". Now at this point I know I cannot get a refund on my $88 especially since we burned 5 minutes negotiating. To salvage my $88, I went back to the cashier and caved. Told them to charge the $200 to my CC ($220 total with service charge. Now I just spent $308. As soon as we got back to the room, she said, "You like, you pay me the $40 cash". I did not respond. After the VIP (CFS / CBJ). She then said, "Now give me the $40. You said". I told her I already spent over $300. She then got mad and said, "GIVE ME THE $40! I got mad and said, "NO! I paid you enough". I then walked right out leaving her in the VIP room and then walked out of the club. We need to stay away from these dishonest hustlers. Never again will I deal with her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IntoNOut;6485021]While I don't condone her tactics, I think a lot of this was avoidable. First off, don't ever go to a strip club without a set amount of cash. Secondly, it's always best to be clear about what you expect and for how much in the VIP. As an example, last time I was there in a Wednesday, I just told the girls straight up that all I had was 80 bucks, and I just kept saying I wouldn't be able to tip. For one girl, that was enough to get her closer to her obligatory $180 threshold the club requires, and I got a CBJ. No dancing, just straight business. The time before that, the girl promised a good time, and I didn't negotiate. Things got hot and at the end she asked if I had a tip for her so I have like 25 bucks (which was low, I know). Second time with her, I told I had 80 for the VIP and could tip 80, and she said she was cool with that, so we went to the back and got the full service. Long story short, never use a card, always make clear how much you're willing to spend and reiterate that you won't be able to give them any more on top of that number (whatever you're comfortable with). Also, it's good to establish a vibe with them. Don't always go for the hottest chick; go with the one that's trying the hardest. If they don't sit with you for a bit and just do drive by dance requests, it's not going to be a good experience IMO. Live and learn. Paradise is still my club of choice for extras at a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]Word!! These rookie PLs; Always learning the hard way. Literally 😂.
Call your credit card and ask for a chargeback on the $220 and say you already paid which you did. For the club to fight it they will have to specify exactly what the service provided was. FYI you can always walk out early on a VIP to complain to mgmt that the girl refuses to dance. They may or may not offer a replacement VIP.
[QUOTE=ClintWoods;6484501]Beware, guys!
I went to Paradise and was approached by Darla, tall, Spanish speaking with a great body. I thought I'd test the goods with a $40 lap dance. She kept insisting (practically begging) for a VIP. After our 3 songs were up, I agree to the VIP (Wednesday special). She took my hand and walked me directly to the VIP, which I thought was strange. She told me "$80 VIP". I told her I need to pay with my CC. She took my hand and walked me to the server and told her "$80 VIP". With CC service charge it was $88 total for a 15-minute VIP. So far so good; right? Wrong!
After I paid, we went to the VIP and she then asked if I was going to use the ATM for her $200 tip. Seriously? After I paid for the VIP and while the clock was ticking, she now wants to negotiate the tip. I told her I don't have my ATM card and I don't want to charge my CC again. I told her all I have is $40 cash. She then said, "Sorry; no VIP". Now at this point I know I cannot get a refund on my $88 especially since we burned 5 minutes negotiating. To salvage my $88, I went back to the cashier and caved. Told them to charge the $200 to my CC ($220 total with service charge. Now I just spent $308. As soon as we got back to the room, she said, "You like, you pay me the $40 cash". I did not respond. After the VIP (CFS / CBJ). She then said, "Now give me the $40. You said". I told her I already spent over $300. She then got mad and said, "GIVE ME THE $40! I got mad and said, "NO! I paid you enough". I then walked right out leaving her in the VIP room and then walked out of the club. We need to stay away from these dishonest hustlers. Never again will I deal with her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IntoNOut;6485021]While I don't condone her tactics, I think a lot of this was avoidable. First off, don't ever go to a strip club without a set amount of cash. Secondly, it's always best to be clear about what you expect and for how much in the VIP. As an example, last time I was there in a Wednesday, I just told the girls straight up that all I had was 80 bucks, and I just kept saying I wouldn't be able to tip. For one girl, that was enough to get her closer to her obligatory $180 threshold the club requires, and I got a CBJ. No dancing, just straight business. The time before that, the girl promised a good time, and I didn't negotiate. Things got hot and at the end she asked if I had a tip for her so I have like 25 bucks (which was low, I know). Second time with her, I told I had 80 for the VIP and could tip 80, and she said she was cool with that, so we went to the back and got the full service. Long story short, never use a card, always make clear how much you're willing to spend and reiterate that you won't be able to give them any more on top of that number (whatever you're comfortable with). Also, it's good to establish a vibe with them. Don't always go for the hottest chick; go with the one that's trying the hardest. If they don't sit with you for a bit and just do drive by dance requests, it's not going to be a good experience IMO. Live and learn. Paradise is still my club of choice for extras at a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]Great advice, here's a little sample of my procedure and what kind of money to bring:
*Using Synn COI night time* ONLY HAVE CASH. Leave all credit cards in the car!
$20 for cover, $1 tip to front desk bouncer. These guys usually rotate positions throughout the night so I like to have good rapport with all of them.
$8 for the forced water + $2 tip to the waitress. Never sit down in one of the chairs or stools, always be standing. This way you can position yourself near your dancer of choice if she's standing near the bar or the ATM, you can walk away from a dancer who's annoying, etc. Also I'm fat so when I sit down I look fatter LOL. When I stand I look halfway decent (remember, hygiene and looks still matter to these dancers, they ain't robots.).
$120 for the 15-min VIP in the back + $100 tip in a band of 1's. It's a lot more visually impactful to see 100 bills VS. 1 hundred dollar bill. If you get pushback when you say "I only got $100" and you just whip out the stack. Your chances dramatically improve from my experience.
$20 + $1 + $8 + $2 + $120 + $100 = $251 in bills in your wallet / pocket. Whenever you open your wallet to pay for the VIP or to pay the waitress, you want to make sure the dancer sees you only have that amount and no credit cards (remember, they're in your car.) This will mitigate her trying to hold out for more, when she sees there is no more.
Remember, it's okay to walk away and go home empty-handed if none of the girls want to play ball. "The strongest negotiating tactic is to be able to walk away and mean it." If all else fails, you paid $31 to see some boobs and butt cheeks, and practiced your negotiating skills. And you got to spend a few hours away from your ugly wife LOL. That's a win in my book. You live to fight another day. Trust me, you'll feel better with a fatter wallet than a contrite, rushed experience.
*Pro-Tip* I keep an extra $200 in 20's in my sock. These are for the super rare occasions when a super hot dancer is just feeling you for whatever reason, would never look your direction except for that moment, and you're feeling extra frisky yourself. I've probably used this maybe 5 times during my entire strip club experience.
Good advice, everyone. Of course it was avoidable, as they say hindsight is 20/20 vision, a lesson learned none the less. A $300 lesson learned. I don't like using CC, and definitely not using debit cards; I prefer using cash and keep cash in my pocked to avoid pulling out my wallet. Again in hindsight. She took me directly to the VIP without going to the cashier and only said $80. Sure. I'm OK with an $80 VIP w / o extras. It wasn't until we returned to the VIP when she demanded a $200 TIP (TIP or nothing). She knew she had me because my choices were: $200 VIP, keep negotiating and burn the clock, or risk losing my $80 entirely and maybe try and negotiate with management for another dancer in the VIP. To save time and hassle, I just caved in and paid the $200. Then she kept demanding more money even after she finally did the VIP. It's a good club, but not going near that chick again.
[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;6485317]Great advice, here's a little sample of my procedure and what kind of money to bring:
*Using Synn COI night time* ONLY HAVE CASH. Leave all credit cards in the car!
$20 for cover, $1 tip to front desk bouncer. These guys usually rotate positions throughout the night so I like to have good rapport with all of them.
$8 for the forced water + $2 tip to the waitress. Never sit down in one of the chairs or stools, always be standing. This way you can position yourself near your dancer of choice if she's standing near the bar or the ATM, you can walk away from a dancer who's annoying, etc. Also I'm fat so when I sit down I look fatter LOL. When I stand I look halfway decent (remember, hygiene and looks still matter to these dancers, they ain't robots.).
$120 for the 15-min VIP in the back + $100 tip in a band of 1's. It's a lot more visually impactful to see 100 bills VS. 1 hundred dollar bill. If you get pushback when you say "I only got $100" and you just whip out the stack. Your chances dramatically improve from my experience.
$20 + $1 + $8 + $2 + $120 + $100 = $251 in bills in your wallet / pocket. Whenever you open your wallet to pay for the VIP or to pay the waitress, you want to make sure the dancer sees you only have that amount and no credit cards (remember, they're in your car.) This will mitigate her trying to hold out for more, when she sees there is no more.[/QUOTE]
A few notes from my visit to Synn this afternoon.
Met Dime, who I'd been looking for based on her face pic on the club site. I thought she was pretty in person but with that body her name is pretty presumptuous. Thick and IMO not in a good way. Still figured she was worth taking for a special 2 for 20. On the positive side I was able to grope her nice natural B's from the beginning. But beyond that nothing much. Grind was alright from reverse but mostly leg rubbing and air from the front. She seemed disinterested throughout. Not worth pursuing further.
Did a VIP with Kendall. For my money she's the hottest girl in the club and her reserved, almost shy demeanor only adds to it. But it was just a vanilla nude dance. When I asked her if was the "just dances" type she said yes. I think I remember someone on here claiming to have gotten extras from her but either that person was fabricating (on an anonymous internet board? Never!) or she's picky. Still worth $80 as a warm up.
Spoke with Amari, cute white (I think) girl with long blonde-ish hair wearing sexy thigh high boots. She was upfront about extras and when I asked the menu she offered 100/200/400. I told her that that was about twice what I normally pay. Her response was to try to sell me on a HJ and gave no sign of budging on her prices. To her credit she was pleasant throughout, even offering me a hug when I told her that I was going to pass. She definitely looks VIPable but not at those prices.
Ended up VIPing Lorraine, a relatively tall, slim and pretty black girl. When I inquired about prices she asked what I was comfortable with. I suggested 100/200 and she immediately said yes. Might be some room to negotiate there. Ended up just doing the CBJ option, which was OK though too much teeth.
[QUOTE=CaseyX;6485626]A few notes from my visit to Synn this afternoon.
Met Dime, who I'd been looking for based on her face pic on the club site. I thought she was pretty in person but with that body her name is pretty presumptuous. Thick and IMO not in a good way. Still figured she was worth taking for a special 2 for 20. On the positive side I was able to grope her nice natural B's from the beginning. But beyond that nothing much. Grind was alright from reverse but mostly leg rubbing and air from the front. She seemed disinterested throughout. Not worth pursuing further.
Did a VIP with Kendall. For my money she's the hottest girl in the club and her reserved, almost shy demeanor only adds to it. But it was just a vanilla nude dance. When I asked her if was the "just dances" type she said yes. [/QUOTE]Kendall does not do extras.
There was new young, thin, very fit, black girl Malia there today. Face is only so-so, and the spider web breast tattoos are a bit off-putting, but FS available for $200 and probably less (while she is still new).
Kendall. KingMg32, in a post a year ago, claimed DATY and "decent smash data" which is a bit vague but which I took to mean FS. I've only done a couple $80 Vips with her and nothing extra was offered and I didn't ask. I agree she is one the best lookers, and least on day shift. She is super popular and seems to have so many regulars that it's hard to get a dance. Maybe she just needs to get more comfortable?
[QUOTE=CaseyX;6485626]A few notes from my visit to Synn this afternoon.
Met Dime, who I'd been looking for based on her face pic on the club site. I thought she was pretty in person but with that body her name is pretty presumptuous. Thick and IMO not in a good way. Still figured she was worth taking for a special 2 for 20. On the positive side I was able to grope her nice natural B's from the beginning. But beyond that nothing much. Grind was alright from reverse but mostly leg rubbing and air from the front. She seemed disinterested throughout. Not worth pursuing further.
Did a VIP with Kendall. For my money she's the hottest girl in the club and her reserved, almost shy demeanor only adds to it. But it was just a vanilla nude dance. When I asked her if was the "just dances" type she said yes. I think I remember someone on here claiming to have gotten extras from her but either that person was fabricating (on an anonymous internet board? Never!) or she's picky. Still worth $80 as a warm up.
Spoke with Amari, cute white (I think) girl with long blonde-ish hair wearing sexy thigh high boots. She was upfront about extras and when I asked the menu she offered 100/200/400. I told her that that was about twice what I normally pay. Her response was to try to sell me on a HJ and gave no sign of budging on her prices. To her credit she was pleasant throughout, even offering me a hug when I told her that I was going to pass. She definitely looks VIPable but not at those prices.
Ended up VIPing Lorraine, a relatively tall, slim and pretty black girl. When I inquired about prices she asked what I was comfortable with. I suggested 100/200 and she immediately said yes. Might be some room to negotiate there. Ended up just doing the CBJ option, which was OK though too much teeth.[/QUOTE]
It seems there is a big influx of new Black dancers into COI clubs these days. King told many tales on these boards but I mostly believed him and found similar experiences. It's hard to believe any dancer at a COI club would be 100% absolutely no extras. Especially when you're hot enough to work a non nude club like Kendall. You just have to find her number or be her type.
[QUOTE=Billj1034;6485978]There was new young, thin, very fit, black girl Malia there today. Face is only so-so, and the spider web breast tattoos are a bit off-putting, but FS available for $200 and probably less (while she is still new).
Kendall. KingMg32, in a post a year ago, claimed DATY and "decent smash data" which is a bit vague but which I took to mean FS. I've only done a couple $80 Vips with her and nothing extra was offered and I didn't ask. I agree she is one the best lookers, and least on day shift. She is super popular and seems to have so many regulars that it's hard to get a dance. Maybe she just needs to get more comfortable?[/QUOTE]
Good to see Lorraine requesting somewhat reasonable rates (100/200).
There was a similar rate post about Cinnamon a few weeks ago (someone got her to readily settle on 200).
Despite some come and go newbies 😉, these two are still amongst the top lookers amongst the black dancers there and are known to deliver.
So let's all do our best not to throw 300 or 400 out there.
[QUOTE=CaseyX;6485626]A few notes from my visit to Synn this afternoon.
Met Dime, who I'd been looking for based on her face pic on the club site. I thought she was pretty in person but with that body her name is pretty presumptuous. Thick and IMO not in a good way. Still figured she was worth taking for a special 2 for 20. On the positive side I was able to grope her nice natural B's from the beginning. But beyond that nothing much. Grind was alright from reverse but mostly leg rubbing and air from the front. She seemed disinterested throughout. Not worth pursuing further.
Did a VIP with Kendall. For my money she's the hottest girl in the club and her reserved, almost shy demeanor only adds to it. But it was just a vanilla nude dance. When I asked her if was the "just dances" type she said yes. I think I remember someone on here claiming to have gotten extras from her but either that person was fabricating (on an anonymous internet board? Never!) or she's picky. Still worth $80 as a warm up.
Spoke with Amari, cute white (I think) girl with long blonde-ish hair wearing sexy thigh high boots. She was upfront about extras and when I asked the menu she offered 100/200/400. I told her that that was about twice what I normally pay. Her response was to try to sell me on a HJ and gave no sign of budging on her prices. To her credit she was pleasant throughout, even offering me a hug when I told her that I was going to pass. She definitely looks VIPable but not at those prices.
Ended up VIPing Lorraine, a relatively tall, slim and pretty black girl. When I inquired about prices she asked what I was comfortable with. I suggested 100/200 and she immediately said yes. Might be some room to negotiate there. Ended up just doing the CBJ option, which was OK though too much teeth.[/QUOTE]
So I was a little worried about the previous reports she had massive GPS, but thought she was cute so took the dive.
We talked a bit at the chairs, and eventually we talked VIP. She tried to get me to the actual rooms with a door, told her I was on a budget and curtain was it for the $140 or whatever it was.
We got back and I told her I only had $180 left, when she started at like $300 for CFS. She took the $180 for CFS and seemed fine with it. Really chill girl, I was pretty content with my time with her. She stayed afterwards and chatted a bit while we both cleaned up and such. Not rushed, beyond the need to get done in the VIP time limit and such. For those that were saying she had major GPS, I just wanted to say that I didn't really get that vibe from her.
[QUOTE=Roland2418;6486574]It seems there is a big influx of new Black dancers into COI clubs these days.[/QUOTE]Speaking of which, I was at SR COI the other night and noticed a few ebony babies:
Godiva – Super cute and petite with humongous rack. Fake but looked really well done I salute that doctor LOL. Just chatted a bit in the front, no intel on anything more than that. Overall a fun girl I'd explore that in the future. A little odor but I'm a freak so whatever.
Genie – Tall and slender, looks and sounds exactly like Chyna from the same club. I've talked to Chyna a few times before and I thought Genie was her and tryna fuck with me by pretending to be someone else or trying a new persona LOL. Seems nice, again sorry no intel on VIP stuff. 50/50 on trying to explore that in the future.
Jodi is a petite redbone cutie. Didn't talk to her but saw her walking around. I believe she also works at Synn COI.
Checked it out and prob should have stayed away on their special deal night. Didn't do any VIP's. Rose and Pearl? Caught my attention but didn't go VIP with either. Just a 2-4 with Rose. Saw Luna who I've gotten VIP's with before, but she was busy too. Might try day shift next week when its less crowded.
What's the deal with Amethyst? She seemed to have regulars lined up the entire night. Is she doing extras now? I don't remember her doing any extras. GPS?
Ended up going at night instead, dunno if it's the trend or just my bad luck but last visit a couple girls wanted a tip in advance to touch their tits, this time Snow flat refused and told me that was VIP only.
Daisy is hot af, everyone else agrees she was busy nonstop the entire time I was there.