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[QUOTE=Alien988;6671132]The article claims they have a client list in the hundreds, I really don't think they are going to be spending the resources tracking down everyone to be questioned. Assuming everyone gets their own jury, lawyers, and judge you will see it will take years to prosecute everyone.[/QUOTE]They have names, addresses, telephone numbers, work information and driver's licences. Even if you never made an appointment, it's loss to be outed for most.
Looks like it's back to AMPs for a while. SA, LLVA, and AG have all said they don't save customer information for everyone's safety so, hopefully that's true.
[QUOTE=BushBaby;6670203]And this is why giving up PII in the verification process is a no-no boys![/QUOTE]Can't agree more. Never ever share those with any providers. There is no way they will be deleting PII after verification. Tbh I don't know how knowing your identity can possibly help them except for gaining a leverage, which could be used against you when shit hits the fan. And the agencies asking for LinkedIn / paystub info is plainly laughable. Feds can creat fake profiles and docs easily, they will get got if they feds want to target them.
[QUOTE=Alien988;6671132]The article claims they have a client list in the hundreds, I really don't think they are going to be spending the resources tracking down everyone to be questioned. Assuming everyone gets their own jury, lawyers, and judge you will see it will take years to prosecute everyone.[/QUOTE]The client list will be revealed if someone leaks it. It would have to be politically expedient to do so. If there are conservative Christian politicians or a presidential candidate on the list, you can bet that would be reason alone to leak the list. I'd be willing to bet that dozens of "news" agencies have already submitted FOIA requests. The FOIA requests will be denied because it's an ongoing investigation. But, insider zealots don't have any constraints. Anybody remember the "Little Black Book" in Frederick 20 years ago?
[URL]https://www.fredericknewspost.com/a-look-back-at-fredericks-black-book-scandal/collection_a2f0dbfe-f118-11e5-8404-3b398e2fe206.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=JsppsgFun4;6670789]Reading over the charging document. What stood out is how much information was put in this document. DOJ is / was under no obligation to do that in the charging document. This was done to send a message to all involved. Put it another way the information within that document is likely just the tip of the iceberg and what they were willing to publicly reveal at this time. Scary times indeed.
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]A message to not only to customers of this agency, but to others here and elsewhere. The DC area connection ensured the media would cover this. Very little detail on actual trafficking details but plenty of detail regarding how thorough the investigation was.
[QUOTE=Max#01;6671470]The client list will be revealed if someone leaks it. It would have to be politically expedient to do so. If there are conservative Christian politicians or a presidential candidate on the list, you can bet that would be reason alone to leak the list. I'd be willing to bet that dozens of "news" agencies have already submitted FOIA requests. The FOIA requests will be denied because it's an ongoing investigation. But, insider zealots don't have any constraints. Anybody remember the "Little Black Book" in Frederick 20 years ago?
[URL]https://www.fredericknewspost.com/a-look-back-at-fredericks-black-book-scandal/collection_a2f0dbfe-f118-11e5-8404-3b398e2fe206.html[/URL][/QUOTE]How fucked are any of us if the client list is revealed, say you're one of those clients who was never "interviewed" by the agents but still on the list. Would we be getting an agent coming to visit, a call, anything? Would it end up on our records as a charge?
I'm pretty sure as long as you don't say anything or get busted in the act you're fine, but I'm not too sure about the rest.
[QUOTE=Almel89;6671583]How fucked are any of us if the client list is revealed, say you're one of those clients who was never "interviewed" by the agents but still on the list. Would we be getting an agent coming to visit, a call, anything? Would it end up on our records as a charge?
I'm pretty sure as long as you don't say anything or get busted in the act you're fine, but I'm not too sure about the rest.[/QUOTE]The Little Black Book was released for political purposes. My memory is fuzzy, but I'm not aware that anyone in the Black Book was ever prosecuted. As a mater of fact, they thinking about prosecuting the agency owner and her lawyers of destroying evidence because they shredded a good portion of the book's contents.
Messaged a girl I know who used to work for some of these agencies. Confirmed that BostonTopTen, SAG / LLVA, and maybe BEG were the ones targeted. She's worried about BEG because they used to be affiliated with BTT, but she hasn't been back in over a year because she thought Tysons / DC customers were too rough.
Regardless it's going to be slow for a while because all agencies will be wary of sending girls here.
[QUOTE=JsppsgFun4;6670789]Reading over the charging document. What stood out is how much information was put in this document. DOJ is / was under no obligation to do that in the charging document. This was done to send a message to all involved. Put it another way the information within that document is likely just the tip of the iceberg and what they were willing to publicly reveal at this time. Scary times indeed.
Stay safe.[/QUOTE][URL]www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/feds-bust-high-end-bothel-1234873115/amp/[/URL]
Interesting take from a former federal prosecutor. Hinting at what he believes is the underlying reasons behind what happened yesterday.
[QUOTE=IceCityX1221;6671668]Messaged a girl I know who used to work for some of these agencies. Confirmed that BostonTopTen, SAG / LLVA, and maybe BEG were the ones targeted. She's worried about BEG because they used to be affiliated with BTT, but she hasn't been back in over a year because she thought Tysons / DC customers were too rough.
Regardless it's going to be slow for a while because all agencies will be wary of sending girls here.[/QUOTE]Site seems still up at this point and one of the wagyus from NYC is making her tour at beg now so we can visualize the power effects soon.
[QUOTE=GolfGod69;6671425]Looks like it's back to AMPs for a while. SA, LLVA, and AG have all said they don't save customer information for everyone's safety so, hopefully that's true.[/QUOTE]Most of them don't save, but hard to tell for discreetstory cas their site is still up and they have the hardest / strictest screening protocols and can be used to BL / hold against clients that are bad if not properly handled by management.
[QUOTE=IceCityX1221;6671668]Messaged a girl I know who used to work for some of these agencies. Confirmed that BostonTopTen, SAG / LLVA, and maybe BEG were the ones targeted. She's worried about BEG because they used to be affiliated with BTT, but she hasn't been back in over a year because she thought Tysons / DC customers were too rough.
Regardless it's going to be slow for a while because all agencies will be wary of sending girls here.[/QUOTE]It was BEG and BTT because they were run by the same people in Boston. Not saying your source is wrong, but the charging document provides clarification. Fwiw, it doesn't mention SAG / LLVA and their affiliate in NY's site is still up. Even tweeted recently. They didn't require near the info BEG asked.
[QUOTE=WillGuyMar;6671742]It was BEG and BTT because they were run by the same people in Boston. Not saying your source is wrong, but the charging document provides clarification. Fwiw, it doesn't mention SAG / LLVA and their affiliate in NY's site is still up. Even tweeted recently. They didn't require near the info BEG asked.[/QUOTE]Forgive my naivety and simpleton mind. .
But what is the difference between Drug Dealers / drug users and Agency Owners / Johns?
Since when did the Feds or LEO's go after drug users?? Johns don't make money from these ' shady' activities just like the poor drug users. Unless their is an ulterior motive to go after the Johns since they are affluent people (given the expense) and being WHITES from upper middle class.
[QUOTE=Tadalagash;6671865]Forgive my naivety and simpleton mind. .
But what is the difference between Drug Dealers / drug users and Agency Owners / Johns?
Since when did the Feds or LEO's go after drug users?? Johns don't make money from these ' shady' activities just like the poor drug users. Unless their is an ulterior motive to go after the Johns since they are affluent people (given the expense) and being WHITES from upper middle class.[/QUOTE]They go after drug users to identify the drug pushers. Hold a charge over your head and you will tell all you know about who you know. You can likely substitute drug user with any other criminal action. Like maybe John's?
[QUOTE=IceCityX1221;6671668]Messaged a girl I know who used to work for some of these agencies. Confirmed that BostonTopTen, SAG / LLVA, and maybe BEG were the ones targeted. She's worried about BEG because they used to be affiliated with BTT, but she hasn't been back in over a year because she thought Tysons / DC customers were too rough.
Regardless it's going to be slow for a while because all agencies will be wary of sending girls here.[/QUOTE]It was BEG and BTT. Read the charging document that has been provided in the thread.