Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

If DayTimer is member and is threatening you then contact Admin2. He won't stand for that.

[QUOTE=Catlikr;4442428]I'd you are right about what you say however if I wasn't concerned about other mongers I would not have publicized what I had done. My only goal was to effect CC's business due to her handling of what I thought was our relationship.

I was hurt and out several thousands of dollars from supporting her while she wasn't supposed to be seeing others. I actually would have been out of this much sooner but The DayTimer PMed me with threats of what he was going to do if I didn't quit posting about CC. I don't do well with threats. I have learnt a valuable lesson and don't know what I was thinking even considering marrying a cum guzzling, ass licker with no teeth. But you're right I'm done. I have never seen any other girls in Cincinnati and have no intention of doing so in the future as I have moved from Cincy. I apologize for what has happened.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BTBear;4444951]If DayTimer is member and is threatening you then contact Admin2. He won't stand for that.[/QUOTE]So Catlikr "apologizes" after, apparently, ratting her out for a second time regarding her new incall location in Batavia. Just a couple days ago he wrote:

"Her new in calls exact location is known to The Batavia PD and the Clermont County Sheriff so it's not so safe and discrete. I'd be very careful. Also if you're looking for a 20 something she's 36 and toothless not a single tooth left in her head. ".

And now he says he has "moved on" and no longer lives in Cincinnati. Well, good riddance, Asshole! Just because you were stupid enough to hope for a relationship with her and ruin your life in the process, that was no reason to purposely try to ruin hers and create safety issues for all of us. I hope to hell this is the end of this saga and that we never have to hear from you again.

[QUOTE=DearPrudence;4444849]My knock on Listcrawler / Escort Babylon is it deletes bad comments or reviews. This is crazy and removes the real purpose of the site, from the mongers perspective. Sure, it allows the girls to get the message out but there are no consequences for bad behavior or worse. 80% of my reviews or comments are positive but whenever they are negative about a provider next time I go on the site to give feedback it tells me "account inactive" and all previous comments and reviews are deleted.

This kind of action turns what could be a valuable site for both the monger and provider into a one-way street for the provider. Instead it basically becomes picture catalog for the provider. It also makes it a heck of a lot less safe for mongers. Very disappointing.[/QUOTE]So are you saying the providers get to approve the review or they can have it deleted if they don't like the review? Please explain.

[QUOTE=BigCat44;4445910]So are you saying the providers get to approve the review or they can have it deleted if they don't like the review? Please explain.[/QUOTE]I don't know how the deletions are done. But I and several others have discussed elsewhere how any negative reviews we post are soon deleted. Yes, for some reason, some do remain but most are removed and you are then told your account is inactive and you have to open another account to make additional comments or write reviews.

Periodically, you will see an upset monger actually take out a duplicate ad of the provider who is ripping people off that says something like, "I am a thief. If you want me to rip you off, contact me at XXX-XXXX. ".

I can't tell you how the determination is made but this is happening. That is all I know.

In other words, use precaution when contacting any of the gals off of LC / EB.

Since this info isn't a review and more opinion submitting to this section.

Kylie updated her FB status to show she is in a relationship. The guy is either her sugar bf or someone new. If the past pattern fits Kylie will be gone until they break up or she needs fast cash.

Chloe FB pics looks like she has a white trash ratchet thug life street urchin thing going on. Has a history of drug use already at the age of 19. On the horse, clean, now appears to be back on the horse. You can tell by her picture weight and posts when she is clean vs when using. She will be either be stripping or on her back to feed her drug use. Time will tell if she surfaces in a club or on EB or on USA. For now don't know.

No. Will not share FB info. No. Don't have direct contact info for either of them.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;4445232]So Catlikr "apologizes" after, apparently, ratting her out for a second time regarding her new incall location in Batavia. Just a couple days ago he wrote:

"Her new in calls exact location is known to The Batavia PD and the Clermont County Sheriff so it's not so safe and discrete. I'd be very careful. Also if you're looking for a 20 something she's 36 and toothless not a single tooth left in her head. ".

And now he says he has "moved on" and no longer lives in Cincinnati. Well, good riddance, Asshole! Just because you were stupid enough to hope for a relationship with her and ruin your life in the process, that was no reason to purposely try to ruin hers and create safety issues for all of us. I hope to hell this is the end of this saga and that we never have to hear from you again.[/QUOTE]I can see where he comes from. I fell in love with a SW from Price Hill. It happens. We had a decent relationship. It was not the sex. It was average at best. We just clicked. I loved her company. I'm in my 50's so not a old fart. My 2 cents. PB.

[QUOTE=Passnby;4446410]I can see where he comes from. I fell in love with a SW from Price Hill. It happens. We had a decent relationship. It was not the sex. It was average at best. We just clicked. I loved her company. I'm in my 50's so not a old fart. My 2 cents. PB.[/QUOTE]The problem here in lies with the reporting where she is contacting business.

I've been in a couple of relationships with a pornstar and strippers. What I've come to understand that if you tell them or force them to not do something they will end up doing it regardless. Had one rule with the pornstar, that was don't do BB scenes. She didn't. The strippers rule was won't ask, don't tell me what you do. Just don't go all the way. For the most part it went well for awhile but the pornstar made more money going BB so of course she ended up breaking it off. The strippers inevitably ended up getting a good offer to do the deed fully. Its just the nature of the beast and you know what you signed up for.

[QUOTE=DearPrudence;4446145]I don't know how the deletions are done. But I and several others have discussed elsewhere how any negative reviews we post are soon deleted. Yes, for some reason, some do remain but most are removed and you are then told your account is inactive and you have to open another account to make additional comments or write reviews.

Periodically, you will see an upset monger actually take out a duplicate ad of the provider who is ripping people off that says something like, "I am a thief. If you want me to rip you off, contact me at XXX-XXXX. ".

I can't tell you how the determination is made but this is happening. That is all I know.

In other words, use precaution when contacting any of the gals off of LC / EB.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I think the girls on those sites are nasty SW material or a scam, so I don't even waste my time trolling them. I get the underlying need for mongers to have variety, but damn.

[QUOTE=JustACustomer;4446911]Honestly, I think the girls on those sites are nasty SW material or a scam, so I don't even waste my time trolling them. I get the underlying need for mongers to have variety, but damn.[/QUOTE]You will on occasion find some real talent on Listcrawler / Escort Babylon. Gals like Kylie, for example, are on these sites initially before learning the ropes and migrating to places like USASG.

I agree that the majority of the gals that regularly post on those sites are not top talent and some are rip off artists, but to say you can't find real talent there on occasion is not correct.

This is a RAVE! No, I will not be sharing their information.

So, I have been searching for one SB on SA for the last month. Had many meet and greets (that I did not have to pay for BTW) and have really learned a lot about the sugar scene. I have found myself a classy SB and I am going to let it run its course, but I digress.

So, I met this young college student for a M&G and we hit it off enough to meet back at her place later that week. Played around orally, but didn't FS. This is where I tell you she had a tongue piercing and fucking ehh, knew how to use it. Had fun and we decided to meet again. So, before I am to arrive the following visit, she texts me and asks me to bring a bottle of Petron and a pizza. Mind you, I have not given her cash yet, so I am trying to decide how much cash to bring along as well. So, I ask her what she wants on her pizza and she says "Surprise me!" So, I swing by Little Caesars and grab one of their hot-and-ready Quattro pizzas (don't want her to be disappointed with my choice of toppings) and a bottle from the liquor store next door. Get to her place and I'll be damned if her roommate isn't there as well. So, I decide we are just hanging out for the evening and open up the bottle and we all start doing shots and eating pizza. Well, our conversation started getting raunchy as the buzz got thicker and before I know it, I am kicked back on the couch, pants down, getting a excellent BBBJCIMWS while the roommate is passed out next to us. I think that is it, but then the roommate wakes up while we are watching Netflix and smells the cum and gets upset that she missed out. LMAO I say I am sorry and maybe next time, but I am an old man and don't think I could go another round. They both think I am challenging them and I get the double BBBJ. Mind you, both of them have tongue piercings. At one point, each of them had a ball in their mouth and was rolling it around on their ball stud tongue piercing while throwing down a pretty good HJ. HOLY FUCKING SHIT! After my second pop, we started talking about what to name that experience, and I mentioned I was not a member of the Mile High Club yet. That led to what name to put on this Club. Hence, the Quattro Balls Club!

Rave Over! .

[QUOTE=Elastic;4428396]I've never run my mouth on this whole thing, and I totally get what happened.

That said, I would still feel better if this site were behind HTTPS. That way any communication between us and the site are truly encrypted. For instance, because this site is not behind a TLS certificate every single time you log into the site your username and password is transmitted in CLEAR TEXT over the wire. Anyone monitoring your network connections (your ISP, LE, your tech-saavy spouse) will capture your login. Same goes for any post you make.

In time, browsers like Google Chrome will actually completely block access to non-https websites.

You can use a service like Let's Encrypt to obtain an https certificate for your website for free.[/QUOTE]I'd like it better if they had a certificate as well, but if you're concerned about traffic being encrypted from your endpoint (laptop, phone, etc) just use a VPN or a secure proxy.

I know you feel the need to share your experience but shouldn't you be posting this in the SB forum?

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10668-Sugarbabies[/URL]

[QUOTE=JustACustomer;4447983]This is a RAVE! No, I will not be sharing their information.

So, I have been searching for one SB on SA for the last month. Had many meet and greets (that I did not have to pay for BTW) and have really learned a lot about the sugar scene. I have found myself a classy SB and I am going to let it run its course, but I digress.

So, I met this young college student for a M&G and we hit it off enough to meet back at her place later that week. Played around orally, but didn't FS. This is where I tell you she had a tongue piercing and fucking ehh, knew how to use it. Had fun and we decided to meet again. So, before I am to arrive the following visit, she texts me and asks me to bring a bottle of Petron and a pizza. Mind you, I have not given her cash yet, so I am trying to decide how much cash to bring along as well. So, I ask her what she wants on her pizza and she says "Surprise me!" So, I swing by Little Caesars and grab one of their hot-and-ready Quattro pizzas (don't want her to be disappointed with my choice of toppings) and a bottle from the liquor store next door. Get to her place and I'll be damned if her roommate isn't there as well. So, I decide we are just hanging out for the evening and open up the bottle and we all start doing shots and eating pizza. Well, our conversation started getting raunchy as the buzz got thicker and before I know it, I am kicked back on the couch, pants down, getting a excellent BBBJCIMWS while the roommate is passed out next to us. I think that is it, but then the roommate wakes up while we are watching Netflix and smells the cum and gets upset that she missed out. LMAO I say I am sorry and maybe next time, but I am an old man and don't think I could go another round. They both think I am challenging them and I get the double BBBJ. Mind you, both of them have tongue piercings. At one point, each of them had a ball in their mouth and was rolling it around on their ball stud tongue piercing while throwing down a pretty good HJ. HOLY FUCKING SHIT! After my second pop, we started talking about what to name that experience, and I mentioned I was not a member of the Mile High Club yet. That led to what name to put on this Club. Hence, the Quattro Balls Club!

Rave Over! .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BTBear;4450177]I know you feel the need to share your experience but shouldn't you be posting this in the SB forum?

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10668-Sugarbabies[/URL][/QUOTE]It was a RAVE! This is the forum where you RAVE about shit, and damn, ain't that an experience that you would RAVE about? I can imagine there will be fewer gentlemen in the Quattro Balls Club than the.

Mile High Club. Lmao Something to shoot for my man! Stay safe out there.

Figure this out. I've been ripped off by more providers posting on USA than anywhere. Three of them. Listcrawler one of them. Streetwalkers none. Its not USA its the girls. Their ads are free when they post so Why not. Gain your trust then rip you off. Thats the main reason I'm into walkers. Lenny6746.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4450709]Figure this out. I've been ripped off by more providers posting on USA than anywhere. Three of them. Listcrawler one of them. Streetwalkers none. Its not USA its the girls. Their ads are free when they post so Why not. Gain your trust then rip you off. Thats the main reason I'm into walkers. Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Reading most of your post it seems that you have been ripped off more than anyone here is willing to admit and bygirls everywhere SW and all the ads.

Doesn't that say something, they all get you eventually after they earn your trust.

I've been taken before and there is no real way to play irt out, eventually it will happen to everyone in the hobby. Times are changing, these girls have a habit that they are developing a tolerance for, so their prices go up, or they have to steal or rip guys off to get it. It's not rocket science.

I have been checking out your guys forums because Dayton's are pretty dead and honestly the town had shit to offer. But I keep coming across the C. C. Drama. Rather I see it here or spilling over into the monger iso thread.

It brings me back to an old memory I had where I had a brief relationship with an AMP girl who I almost married. Who ironically got caught and prosecuted for wanking dicks in her shop. So because of the stigma of humiliation Chinese girl's carry. The dude that did end up marrying her actually had a cute Asian hottie that sits at home and doesn't play with other men's cocks all day.

Ah well that's life I guess. Who wants to work their ass off all day while you're lady has a mouth or handful of strangers cocks all day, and then somehow convince yourself that your comfortable or actually like and enjoy or actually believe like you're really hurting that pussy any. Or that she's even the slightest bit interested in your cock. When she takes them all day everyday.

But sadly she wasn't the first worker I developed feelings for either. Which is why I don't do many repeat visits with any of them in particular.

I'm into this shit because of past relationships destroying me as a man and shattering my confidence. I'll be damned if I let a provider do it. Even though I think they're all providers on some sense or another. If you're married and your wife hasn't worked in 10 to 20 years. That * is a provider. Just a very entitled one who is going to end up fucking your best friend, brother or son because you work to much.

I guess we're all a bunch of sad lonely fucks to participate in this shit anyway. We obsess and give away the equivalent of roughly a days pay for a mere hour of these ladies time. Only to be forgotten about as soon as we walk out the door. But somehow in our pathetic minds, we still think we matter in some sense.

These girls would sooner take our money than even look at us. In the case of C. C. I think dude professing his feelings made half the guys here want to fuck her even more. Because were all shitty and fucked up like that. But for as bad as I've felt over these very nice ladies in the past. I HAVE NEVER called LEO on anyone. That shit will come back to bite you in the ass.

And don't think for 1 second she won't drop to her knees and inhale LEO's cock free of charge to look the other way. And possibly to even harass you. Because I've seen that before to. I would advise you to find a different hole to plug and move on my man. These very nice ladies aren't worth the energy of giving the slightest fuck about them.

Just my 2 cent's.

[QUOTE=DytGuy;4450957]

I'm into this shit because of past relationships destroying me as a man and shattering my confidence. I'll be damned if I let a provider do it. Even though I think they're all providers on some sense or another. If you're married and your wife hasn't worked in 10 to 20 years. That * is a provider. Just a very entitled one who is going to end up fucking your best friend, brother or son because you work to much.

I guess we're all a bunch of sad lonely fucks to participate in this shit anyway. We obsess and give away the equivalent of roughly a days pay for a mere hour of these ladies time. Only to be forgotten about as soon as we walk out the door. But somehow in our pathetic minds, we still think we matter in some sense.

These girls would sooner take our money than even look at us. In the case of C. C. I think dude professing his feelings made half the guys here want to fuck her even more. Because were all shitty and fucked up like that. But for as bad as I've felt over these kunts in the past. I HAVE NEVER called LEO on anyone. That shit will come back to bite you in the ass.

And don't think for 1 second she won't drop to her knees and inhale LEO's cock free of charge to look the other way. And possibly to even harass you. Because I've seen that before to. I would advise you to find a different hole to plug and move on my man. These kunts aren't worth the energy of giving the slightest fuck about them.

Just my 2 cent's.[/QUOTE]Yeah, there have been times where I've started to get feelings for a provider. But that's as far as it ever went for me. I've never friended them on Facebook, I don't usually know their real names in order to connect on social media, I don't try to help them with their problems, and I sure as hell never involved LE because a chick hurt my feelings.

I run the gamut on how I feel about all this. Sometimes I feel like a sad old fart for doing this. I sometimes really feel like an idiot when I sit down and do the math on how much money has gone down the drain on the hobby.

Other times, I think of guys around my age I know. I really doubt any of them are getting a 20-something or a 30-something year old piece of ass unless they're renting it. Quite a few of them aren't getting any ass at all. Others get starfish sex 3 times a year from their overweight harpie wives. I keep holding out hope that someday soon, a reasonably good looking woman in everyday life is going to willingly and maybe even a bit eagerly drop her panties for me. But I'm in my 50's and am realistic about the odds of that happening. The hobby is about my only option if want to get any.

My reasons for doing this are my own but I am neither sad nor lonely and actually pretty happily married.

The fact that you twice refer to providers by the "c" word speaks volumes (not sure why you're using K).

[QUOTE=DytGuy;4450957]I'm into this shit because of past relationships destroying me as a man and shattering my confidence. I'll be damned if I let a provider do it. Even though I think they're all providers on some sense or another. If you're married and your wife hasn't worked in 10 to 20 years. That * is a provider. Just a very entitled one who is going to end up fucking your best friend, brother or son because you work to much.

I guess we're all a bunch of sad lonely fucks to participate in this shit anyway. We obsess and give away the equivalent of roughly a days pay for a mere hour of these ladies time. Only to be forgotten about as soon as we walk out the door. But somehow in our pathetic minds, we still think we matter in some sense.

These girls would sooner take our money than even look at us. In the case of C. C. I think dude professing his feelings made half the guys here want to fuck her even more. Because were all shitty and fucked up like that. But for as bad as I've felt over these kunts in the past. I HAVE NEVER called LEO on anyone. That shit will come back to bite you in the ass.

And don't think for 1 second she won't drop to her knees and inhale LEO's cock free of charge to look the other way. And possibly to even harass you. Because I've seen that before to. I would advise you to find a different hole to plug and move on my man. These kunts aren't worth the energy of giving the slightest fuck about them.

Just my 2 cent's.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustACustomer;4447983]This is a RAVE! No, I will not be sharing their information.

So, I have been searching for one SB on SA for the last month. Had many meet and greets (that I did not have to pay for BTW) and have really learned a lot about the sugar scene. I have found myself a classy SB and I am going to let it run its course, but I digress.

So, I met this young college student for a M&G and we hit it off enough to meet back at her place later that week. Played around orally, but didn't FS. This is where I tell you she had a tongue piercing and fucking ehh, knew how to use it. Had fun and we decided to meet again. So, before I am to arrive the following visit, she texts me and asks me to bring a bottle of Petron and a pizza. Mind you, I have not given her cash yet, so I am trying to decide how much cash to bring along as well. So, I ask her what she wants on her pizza and she says "Surprise me!" So, I swing by Little Caesars and grab one of their hot-and-ready Quattro pizzas (don't want her to be disappointed with my choice of toppings) and a bottle from the liquor store next door. Get to her place and I'll be damned if her roommate isn't there as well. So, I decide we are just hanging out for the evening and open up the bottle and we all start doing shots and eating pizza. Well, our conversation started getting raunchy as the buzz got thicker and before I know it, I am kicked back on the couch, pants down, getting a excellent BBBJCIMWS while the roommate is passed out next to us. I think that is it, but then the roommate wakes up while we are watching Netflix and smells the cum and gets upset that she missed out. LMAO I say I am sorry and maybe next time, but I am an old man and don't think I could go another round. They both think I am challenging them and I get the double BBBJ. Mind you, both of them have tongue piercings. At one point, each of them had a ball in their mouth and was rolling it around on their ball stud tongue piercing while throwing down a pretty good HJ..[/QUOTE]Love the "Letters to Penthouse" BS stories.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;4451421]My reasons for doing this are my own but I am neither sad nor lonely and actually pretty happily married.

The fact that you twice refer to providers by the "c" word speaks volumes (not sure why you're using K).[/QUOTE]If you were 'happily ' married you wouldn't be on this site. Sry admins and others. But ya wouldn't. Plain and simple. And I'm sure if your wife was out paying $100 a pop to have her pussy stuffed with strange cocks whenever the need arised her, you would be pretty distraught yourself.

And why can't I call them [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]? Do you think they actually respect us? WTF do you think they call is behind our backs? keep living in that delusion where you think you're anything other than a cash machine for these cum receptors. Hope you got a burner dude. You're the type that will definitely get black mailed and have shit sent to your wife if you piss one of these girls off the wrong way or happen to find them in a hard up state and leave yourself in a vulnerable position.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;4451421]My reasons for doing this are my own but I am neither sad nor lonely and actually pretty happily married.

The fact that you twice refer to providers by the "c" word speaks volumes [highlight](not sure why you're using K)[/highlight].[/QUOTE]The C word is not allowed and will most likely get detected and/or deleted by software if spelled correctly.

LL.

So focused on denigrating women that someone has to trick the system.

[QUOTE=LuvnLivn;4451518]The C word is not allowed and will most likely get detected and/or deleted by software if spelled correctly.

LL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DytGuy;4450957]I have been checking out your guys forums because Dayton's are pretty dead and honestly the town had shit to offer. But I keep coming across the C. C. Drama. Rather I see it here or spilling over into the monger iso thread.

It brings me back to an old memory I had where I had a brief relationship with an AMP girl who I almost married. Who ironically got caught and prosecuted for wanking dicks in her shop. So because of the stigma of humiliation Chinese girl's carry. The dude that did end up marrying her actually had a cute Asian hottie that sits at home and doesn't play with other men's cocks all day.

Ah well that's life I guess. Who wants to work their ass off all day while you're lady has a mouth or handful of strangers cocks all day, and then somehow convince yourself that your comfortable or actually like and enjoy or actually believe like you're really hurting that pussy any. Or that she's even the slightest bit interested in your cock. When she takes them all day everyday.

But sadly she wasn't the first worker I developed feelings for either. Which is why I don't do many repeat visits with any of them in particular.

I'm into this shit because of past relationships destroying me as a man and shattering my confidence. I'll be damned if I let a provider do it. Even though I think they're all providers on some sense or another. If you're married and your wife hasn't worked in 10 to 20 years. That * is a provider. Just a very entitled one who is going to end up fucking your best friend, brother or son because you work to much.

I guess we're all a bunch of sad lonely fucks to participate in this shit anyway. We obsess and give away the equivalent of roughly a days pay for a mere hour of these ladies time. Only to be forgotten about as soon as we walk out the door. But somehow in our pathetic minds, we still think we matter in some sense..[/QUOTE]Sounds to me like you have a problem separating the hobby from real life. Most of the providers the good ones are here they provide a service. I enjoy my time pay them an leave. Yes they don't think about us after we leave an I only think about them when I want to see them again. That's why it a hobby. Sounds like your are looking for a relationship and that don't work. I never disrespect the ladies an sure don't call them Cs or Ks. Maybe you would be better off finding a dating service. Just my 2 cents.

You must be from the south pole.

[QUOTE=DytGuy;4451513]If you were 'happily ' married you wouldn't be on this site. Sry admins and others. But ya wouldn't. Plain and simple. And I'm sure if your wife was out paying $100 a pop to have her pussy stuffed with strange cocks whenever the need arised her, you would be pretty distraught yourself.

And why can't I call themDo you think they actually respect us? WTF do you think they call is behind our backs? keep living in that delusion where you think you're anything other than a cash machine for these cum receptors. Hope you got a burner dude. You're the type that will definitely get black mailed and have shit sent to your wife if you piss one of these girls off the wrong way or happen to find them in a hard up state and leave yourself in a vulnerable position.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hooter12;4451469]Love the "Letters to Penthouse" BS stories.[/QUOTE]What you will. I got no reason to lie. Waste of time to share something that didn't happen. Peace!

[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;4451713]Sounds to me like you have a problem separating the hobby from real life. Most of the providers the good ones are here they provide a service. I enjoy my time pay them an leave. Yes they don't think about us after we leave an I only think about them when I want to see them again. That's why it a hobby. Sounds like your are looking for a relationship and that don't work. I never disrespect the ladies an sure don't call them Cs or Ks. Maybe you would be better off finding a dating service. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]I'm with HB. It's always these guys that want to pretend it's some sort of "relationship" that lose their perspective. I'm not saying you can't like these girls, but the rule of thumb is to bang them, pay your money, and LEAVE. The moment you lose site of the reality this is a paid service, you're going to get fucked.

Seriously, do you really think the waiter or waitress likes you or gives a fuck? They want to be tipped.

I was unduly kind earlier. It's time for this dude to go away. Yeah, we get it, the hooker you thought was in love with you turned out to be a hooker. Boo hoo. And leave the cops out of it.

Wasn't sure where to put this, so I'll put it in rants. I was in Toronto last month on business and wanted some fun, so I went to whiskey a go go (highest rated strip club in the city).

Paid a cover of $10 cad to get in. Sat down and quickly was approached by a sexy French Canadian and went to the back with her. First thing she did was take her top and bottom off and revealed some incredible bolt ons. Seriously, I want to high five the surgeon who did those. Second thing she told me was that I could touch anywhere except her vagina. Sounds good to me.

After 3 songs (and no money changing hands), she offered FS for $650 cad. I balked at the price and negotiated her down to $400 CAD ($300 US). After another song, she gave a great CBJ and rode me. Finished with a cbjcim.

Left the back and watched a super sexy AA dancer for awhile. Every dancer I saw was an 8/10 at a minimum.

I'll be heading back to this establishment when I'm in Toronto and highly recommend you do the same.

[QUOTE=DytGuy;4451513]If you were 'happily ' married you wouldn't be on this site. Sry admins and others. But ya wouldn't. Plain and simple. And I'm sure if your wife was out paying $100 a pop to have her pussy stuffed with strange cocks whenever the need arised her, you would be pretty distraught yourself.

And why can't I call them kunts? Do you think they actually respect us? WTF do you think they call is behind our backs? keep living in that delusion where you think you're anything other than a cash machine for these cum receptors.[/QUOTE]Sound like a misogynist. I realize that may sound hypocritical coming from anyone who's in the hobby but there's a level of respect you're obviously not showing. You get out of it what you put into it. You walk in w a shitty attitude I'm guessing you're walking out the same way.

Men can have a good home life and relationship w their wives and still do this. We want some variety after being w the same woman for and years. My better half fucks better than any provider I've met so far, Brookee is close, but we just don't go at it as much anymore. When I see a provider I am 100% respectful to them even in PSE context. In a perfect world I'll only dream about the ones who aren't doped up and just love to fuck -feel like I'm 4 for 5 in that regard and I won't be seeing that outlier again. Treat these ladies well! They're providing a valuable service in an uptight world.

Don't rule out a rub-and-tug.

There are some beautiful women in many of those places as well.

Just like in the US brothels, all the girls come out and greet you one by one when you arrive.

Canada is in a grey area where prostitution is sort of legal sort of not but I don't think the police pay much attention.

Never got anything less than a handy at a massage joint.

[QUOTE=Kasai;4452453]Wasn't sure where to put this, so I'll put it in rants. I was in Toronto last month on business and wanted some fun, so I went to whiskey a go go (highest rated strip club in the city).

Paid a cover of $10 cad to get in. Sat down and quickly was approached by a sexy French Canadian and went to the back with her. First thing she did was take her top and bottom off and revealed some incredible bolt ons. Seriously, I want to high five the surgeon who did those. Second thing she told me was that I could touch anywhere except her vagina. Sounds good to me.

After 3 songs (and no money changing hands), she offered FS for $650 cad. I balked at the price and negotiated her down to $400 CAD ($300 US). After another song, she gave a great CBJ and rode me. Finished with a cbjcim.

Left the back and watched a super sexy AA dancer for awhile. Every dancer I saw was an 8/10 at a minimum.

I'll be heading back to this establishment when I'm in Toronto and highly recommend you do the same.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kasai;4452453]Wasn't sure where to put this, so I'll put it in rants. I was in Toronto last month on business and wanted some fun, so I went to whiskey a go go (highest rated strip club in the city).

Paid a cover of $10 cad to get in. Sat down and quickly was approached by a sexy French Canadian and went to the back with her. First thing she did was take her top and bottom off and revealed some incredible bolt ons. Seriously, I want to high five the surgeon who did those. Second thing she told me was that I could touch anywhere except her vagina. Sounds good to me.

After 3 songs (and no money changing hands), she offered FS for $650 cad. I balked at the price and negotiated her down to $400 CAD ($300 US). After another song, she gave a great CBJ and rode me. Finished with a cbjcim.

Left the back and watched a super sexy AA dancer for awhile. Every dancer I saw was an 8/10 at a minimum.

I'll be heading back to this establishment when I'm in Toronto and highly recommend you do the same.[/QUOTE]Sounds like she got you to pay way too much.

Mississauga strip joints are 50/50 on extras, 100-200 is about the right going rate. Two months ago when I walked in with my SO, one of the strippers told me right in front of my SO that she would fuck me for 100.

If you want a 30-45 minutes bang with one of smoking hot ladies, you can spend 220-250 CAD at one of the Premier location (Pure, Perla, Platinum, S9) or Seduction spa.

If you want to go to a strip joint, the Sundowner out by the Falls would be much better choice if you can drive out.

Tons of incalls and outcalls in the range of 200-400/ hr all over the city. Lots and lots of flavor, whatever floats your boat.

PM me if you need more info, or I could point you to where to look.

I used to go there in the early 90's.

[QUOTE=Homonger;4453120]

If you want to go to a strip joint, the Sundowner out by the Falls would be much better choice if you can drive out.

Tons of incalls and outcalls in the range of 200-400/ hr all over the city. Lots and lots of flavor, whatever floats your boat.

PM me if you need more info, or I could point you to where to look.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PaiMei;4452907]Sound like a misogynist. I realize that may sound hypocritical coming from anyone who's in the hobby but there's a level of respect you're obviously not showing. You get out of it what you put into it. You walk in w a shitty attitude I'm guessing you're walking out the same way.

Men can have a good home life and relationship w their wives and still do this. We want some variety after being w the same woman for and years. My better half fucks better than any provider I've met so far, Brookee is close, but we just don't go at it as much anymore. When I see a provider I am 100% respectful to them even in PSE context. In a perfect world I'll only dream about the ones who aren't doped up and just love to fuck -feel like I'm 4 for 5 in that regard and I won't be seeing that outlier again. Treat these ladies well! They're providing a valuable service in an uptight world.[/QUOTE]And I'm not half as pissed off as I sound LOL.

Its just that the Dayton area has absolute total shit to offer in terms of provider's. And it pisses me off when I get their weekly texts sob stories asking for help for blah blah reasons. When I know good and well all they want is a quick fix. Fuck just come out and say it. I'm dope sick and need a quick fix. And I'm not about to jeopardize my situation and be their chauffeur. And often in these situations you end up not getting your dick played with anyway and often lose respect in the eyes of the lady as she knows she's able to take advantage of you. So it just erks me when I see guys playing captain save a hoe.

To Hillbilly. I have tried p. O. f. And a couple other dating sites in my area. All I found were drunk fat chicks with to much emotional baggage. I have enough of that myself to deal with. And no patience to deal with someone else's. LOL. I had a few decent fucks but nothing I would be excited to come home to every day.

AMP girls can be hit and miss around Dayton. They're refreshing in the fact that they're not doped out predators with half the teeth in their head. But it's so hard to find one that will go further than a handshake. And for the price of one. And continuing relationship. Shit man. Those handshakes get expensive. Can't imagine what they're trying to charge for the whole ordeal. I've visited sakura. & waycross. And I'm a regular at a certain hotel in and around your guys area, for my monthly dr. Appointments. And have had some fun in there. But maybe I'm just getting bored and need something more. I know dodging these pigs lately, just to squirt a expensive nut isint much fun.

Maybe I need a trip out of country for a couple of months to feel alive again. I'm just not feeling enthusiastic about our local talent. Dayton or Cincinnati wise. If that doesn't work. Maybe I just need electro shock therapy.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;4453019]Don't rule out a rub-and-tug.

There are some beautiful women in many of those places as well.

Just like in the US brothels, all the girls come out and greet you one by one when you arrive.

Canada is in a grey area where prostitution is sort of legal sort of not but I don't think the police pay much attention.

Never got anything less than a handy at a massage joint.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Homonger;4453120]Sounds like she got you to pay way too much.

Mississauga strip joints are 50/50 on extras, 100-200 is about the right going rate. Two months ago when I walked in with my SO, one of the strippers told me right in front of my SO that she would fuck me for 100.

If you want a 30-45 minutes bang with one of smoking hot ladies, you can spend 220-250 CAD at one of the Premier location (Pure, Perla, Platinum, S9) or Seduction spa.

If you want to go to a strip joint, the Sundowner out by the Falls would be much better choice if you can drive out.

Tons of incalls and outcalls in the range of 200-400/ hr all over the city. Lots and lots of flavor, whatever floats your boat.

PM me if you need more info, or I could point you to where to look.[/QUOTE]I recently reported on my Toronto experiences (sex club and outcall visit under general reports). There is a Canadian version of USA called Terb. Cc that has an incredible listing of sex related activities all around Ontario. PM if more info needed.

Since it's a rant section and all, I'd like to suggest that the discussion of Toronto be redirected to a board about Toronto, just because I don't give a flying f**k about Toronto, other than it is a nice place to visit, and I do like Canada and all (all the freedom, none of the burden of trying to run the rest of the world).

While I'm ranting and all, I've got to say how amazed I am at how awful most new providers I try to contact are these days. Mostly they don't respond. Those who do trail off at some point in answering basic questions about where they are, what their rates are, etc. Or they respond so slowly, like 30 or 40 minutes between texts, that I can be almost assured they'd ghost if I bothered to close the loop and agree to show up. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe, that they're just dealing with a lot of texts, rather than my suspicion that some of them are just struggling with the nods after shooting up. It saves me a lot of money though.

Texted few providers from here and listcrawler. No responses. About 5 hours after a text to one lc add, this / these hard up obnoxious wenches called 15 times back to back to back. Just hit my mute and let it ring.

Seriously, ladies, after the 3rd call you would think it is a bad look, and probably not going to lend itself to getting an appointment, unless just trying to be a pain in the ass, which you succeeded.

I need a new regular (mine have dried up) who is clean, has a drivers license, and a car she owns and drives, who is somewhat dependable, and fun, and likes taking my money. Each and every time. Too much to ask.

[QUOTE=TennVols77;4454196]Texted few providers from here and listcrawler. No responses. About 5 hours after a text to one lc add, this / these hard up obnoxious wenches called 15 times back to back to back. Just hit my mute and let it ring.

Seriously, ladies, after the 3rd call you would think it is a bad look, and probably not going to lend itself to getting an appointment, unless just trying to be a pain in the ass, which you succeeded.

I need a new regular (mine have dried up) who is clean, has a drivers license, and a car she owns and drives, who is somewhat dependable, and fun, and likes taking my money. Each and every time. Too much to ask.[/QUOTE]Did you mistakenly assume this is a legitimate business run by responsible, professional individuals?

[QUOTE=Tuffy12;4454304]Did you mistakenly assume this is a legitimate business run by responsible, professional individuals?[/QUOTE]Not in the least, but, when you do find or have one of the few who are it spoils you.

Most of these women are drug riddled head cases, and it shows.

[QUOTE=TennVols77;4454196]Texted few providers from here and listcrawler. No responses. About 5 hours after a text to one lc add, this / these hard up obnoxious wenches called 15 times back to back to back. Just hit my mute and let it ring.

Seriously, ladies, after the 3rd call you would think it is a bad look, and probably not going to lend itself to getting an appointment, unless just trying to be a pain in the ass, which you succeeded.

I need a new regular (mine have dried up) who is clean, has a drivers license, and a car she owns and drives, who is somewhat dependable, and fun, and likes taking my money. Each and every time. Too much to ask.[/QUOTE]I use to do overnights in California before moving to Houston / Lexington where I spend my year nowadays. But I've seen guys that will text 4-5 times within an hour and have the girl just say, "I'm just not going to deal with that. That means they are inpatient and not really willing to wait. Especially if I require references for my safety. Also, guys call if they don't a response. " So how much is too much texting from the monger if he hasn't received a return text?

Just one comment as well, if the lady isn't willing to respond to your text it might be due to her already doing her research on you or that she isn't seeing anyone that day. The worse is calling after not getting a text unless you know the girl and have seen her multiple times and has given you the okay.

Not trying to white knight, but girls do talk to one another on occasion. Its possible they share how you are with them.