[QUOTE=Magnum352;2852242]Tips are earned people. Not just given. It's called a "tip" for a reason and it shouldn't be included with the door fee. I was a bartender for years and never once had someone put the tip down before they ever got a single drink. Common sense should tell ya when to put the tip on the table. In case your lacking common sense I'll cut you some slack for being like most Americans these days and clue you in. The tip comes after the services have been provided. Write it down if you need to. Also don't forget to tip your bartender or your massage therapist assuming they did a good job!![/QUOTE]6 weeks ago you said this in the discussion about the Panacea tip first policy, yesterday you had no problem laying out the tip ahead of time. We've be Trumped.