Glue Czar,
You must have created quite a stir with your new friend.
Your mailbox is completely full. LOL
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Glue Czar,
You must have created quite a stir with your new friend.
Your mailbox is completely full. LOL
May 31st, according to website
[QUOTE=B Beall;1188351]May 31st, according to website[/QUOTE]"E" dot com was actually an excellent advertising and review board. The review side kept the advertising side honest. And they had a lot of profiles. The site even showed each girl's "join" date and the date of her most recent visit to her profile so it was possible to tell which profiles were "active" and which were "parked." I really liked the place, but the changes they made last October after the raid rendered the place worthless. So closing the place now is no loss.
I note paid memberships will be refunded [I]if you provide your name and mailing address[/I]. Jesss. A guy pays his VIP with a credit card and they don't credit the credit card. That is mean spirited. I take back everything nice I said about them.
[QUOTE=Golfcart; 1188384]"E" dot com was actually an excellent advertising and review board. The review side kept the advertising side honest. And they had a lot of profiles. The site even showed each girl's "join" date and the date of her most recent visit to her profile so it was possible to tell which profiles were "active" and which were "parked." I really liked the place, but the changes they made last October after the raid rendered the place worthless. So closing the place now is no loss.
I note paid memberships will be refunded [I]if you provide your name and mailing address[/I]. Jesss. A guy pays his VIP with a credit card and they don't credit the credit card. That is mean spirited. I take back everything nice I said about them. [/QUOTE]Just a guess here, but maybe the principals at E-com are not running the site any longer. Sounds to me like our uncle may still be involved.
[QUOTE=Eros69;1188548]Just a guess here, but maybe the principals at E-com are not running the site any longer. Sounds to me like our uncle may still be involved.[/QUOTE]That 'E' is run by the Feds is certainly the popular speculation. I'm not clear how that explains the site closing seven months after the raid. I would think the Feds would run it to gain information about the players in preparation for a bigger shoe to fall later. But I really don't know.
The site says the place is owned by R. S. Duffy Inc. which makes blue movies in California. I don't know where the servers are but the raid held in late October of 2010 was at a big office building in downtown Philadelphia. So it doesn't matter if the servers are overseas when the executives are in Philadelphia and California subject to arrest and prosecution for aiding and abetting P4P. I think we are talking about country club guys.
The site was back up rather quickly, just a few days after the raid. It had some changes. It appeared they were concerned about the possibility of under-age providers advertising, not that they had under-age advertisers but it appeared (reading between the lines) they didn't really know who the ads were from because they put up a big disclaimer on the subject and every woman's profile went down for those that didn't have credit card information on file. It seems our ages are recorded by our card issuers. So to get listed again the women had to pay by credit card. They didn't have to pay before unless they wanted VIP status.
Management took the reviews down which made sense since the reviews were promoting P4P. Then the reviews came back up in a limited way. The text description of the activities was eliminated. Everything was check-off boxes but no more checking off BBBJ and the like. So the reviews were vanilla. It made sense to me they were distancing themselves from being prosecuted for promoting, and they were clearly promoting the way they did business before with the way reviews were written. Step 2 on the reviews was a further restriction in the information fitting into the reviews to the point one couldn't tell anything really happened between a man and a woman. But there was a review. It was called a review. I don't know what it was but it was worthless.
The strength of the site was always its size. It had a lot of girls and it covered the entire country. With the raid the number of profiles tanked. Louisville, as an example, went from 12 pages of profiles to 2 pages. The women didn't rejoin with their credit cards.
The site had a message system (like USASG) so each side of the isle could contact the other through the system. Everyone became afraid to use the system.
A month after the raid, in November a bunch more profiles were dropped which I think was due to a price increase management put in. It must have hit the providers, too. I say that because the guys lost their ability to earn VIP status by writing a review. VIP status suddenly cost $150 / year and VIP status was the only way for a guy to see all the contact information of all the women. It took VIP status for the men to see all the contact information of all the women and it took VIP status for the women to have their contact information seen by all the men. So non-VIP guys could not see the contact information of non-VIP women. So the site became pointless except for those who bought the VIP status which was expensive. I doubt that many paid for VIP status given the place no longer had any meaningful reviews. But I really don't know.
I said the profiles in Louisville, using Louisville as an example, went from 12 pages to 2. Probably less than 1/3 of the women on those 2 pages were VIP (dues paying) women.
It looked to me like the whole place was going in the toilet from the standpoint of what it offered, and there was no benefit to be there any longer and it cost money to be there.
But you never know. Maybe the place was run by only 2 employees and made money. I don't know. But my nose tells me that R. S. Duffy Inc. with their movies in California didn't need to risk getting charged with promoting P4P and wimped out. That's how I add this up, but I really have no idea.
[quote=golfcart;1188587]that 'e' is run by the feds is certainly the popular speculation. i'm not clear how that explains the site closing seven months after the raid.[/quote]because paranoia is such a popular pastime.
the whole credit card thing spun rapidly out of its orbit circling planet reality:
1) a credit card can't be issued to anyone under 18. so anyone possessing a legitimate credit card proves his age for legal purposes by giving you that information.
2) thing is, though, *it didn't happen that way* i know two women whose profiles were dropped after the raid, who were not vips, and who were not aware of what had happened until i told them. both got back on simply by clicking the "i'm over 18" link on the splash screen that appeared after the site came back up. as did i, and probably most of you. i certainly never gave them any credit card info. i suppose it's possible that some people were misled, or misled themselves, into believing they had to become members to continue. but it certainly wasn't the case for everyone.
3) if the feds want your info they'll get it. never say never about someone with police powers, but the idea of the g culling a website looking for info it can turn over to the locals for some class a misdemeanor arrests is beyond the pale. we're talking thousands of man hours, and, fortunately, federal prosecutors generally know more about the law than hobbyists."writing a salacious review", or "interstate emailing of indecent proposals" are not crimes.
4) it's certainly possible that the whole point was blackmail, or that someone not above such things has access to the information, but if you're in a situation where discovery that you solicited women on a website could bring your world crashing down you should have been more careful with your info in the first place, or at least asked eliot spitzer for advice. the fact is that federal prosecutors-whether on orders, or as careerists-have been targeting small-to-mid cap porn producers for years, because they know they can't afford to defend themselves and will have to fold. low-hanging fruit.
was there more going on at edotcom? i don't know. but like most of you i was a regular, and the woman i contacted there were the people they said they were [give or take a couple years. ], not **** asian sex slaves, and it's now five months later and i'm still waiting for the startling revelations. in retrospect it *was* a big mistake not to have their servers away from the power of federal subpoena. but if some fed with an unlimited budget decides to come after you, the only real defense is a fortress made of money.
[QUOTE=Glue Czar; 1186993]Hello! I have made a new friend that would like to make some of your acquaintances!
Late 20's. 5'2".95 lbs. 32c, enhanced. Incall on the NW side. PM me with a phone number, I can txt you rates, pics and contact info. Senior, cool members please. [/QUOTE]I believe you gave me and voluced for me with Terese, so why not a younger version. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Golfcart;1188587]That 'E' is run by the Feds is certainly the popular speculation. I'm not clear how that explains the site closing seven months after the raid.[/QUOTE]Well that does explain the closing then if the Feds have been running the E site.
The guvment can't even do that right. (all in jest of course)
In reality I'm sure the closing is related to the fact that the watered down site offers literally nothing to anyone anymore. Their revenue streem must have plumetted and even if it still makes some money due to being a low overhead biz, as stated by GC, why risk their skin for a small take. No doubt the objective of the guvment was to disrupt the biz and in that end they have been successful.
I have to shut E. Com down, it's just not making any money for us. I mean, you the taxpayers. Plus, it's illegal. Damn you, Eric Holder!
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I finally experienced the phenomenon that is Blaire. I could say Blaire is an incredible sweetheart, a force of nature, and a goddess but mere words don't come anywhere to describing her, not in a million years. The glowing reviews Blaire has received here and elsewhere don't do her justice either.
I first met Blaire when she worked at a now-defunct massage emporium in 2008, but I didn't have a session with her at that time. In February 2010 I called Blaire on a snowy night and we had a fascinating and very entertaining phone conversation on a variety of wholesome topics for over an HOUR! I didn't have a session with Blaire in 2010. But that phone talk, as much as anything else, inspired me to call her two weeks ago. I tend to procrastinate and I sometimes need a deadline to motivate me; Blaire's announcement that she was moving out of Indy did the trick.
Blaire invited me to her spacious house in a wealthy (and safe) neighborhood (when she answered the door I asked her "are you a millionaire?"!). The first thing she did was make a fresh pitcher of fruit juice and generously offer me some (I don't drink alcohol). We sat on her couch, watched a little TV, and had another great conversation. I was having so much fun just chatting with Blaire on the couch I almost forgot why I was there, until she asked "are you ready to go upstairs?".
The massage portion of my visit with Blaire was unbelievable as well. To call what Blaire does a GFE is a gross understatement. Blaire is extremely enthusiastic about her work. There were times when I told her she could just sit there and do nothing and she was actually disappointed that she wasn't actively doing things for (and to) me! One of the best moments of the session was when she walked over to close a loose door and she gave me a nice view! Blaire was a thousand times more affectionate and loving than any woman I've ever met in the real world.
I have an intense foot fetish; I've been with some providers who would do anything in the book but refused to give me foot services (one such chick wouldn't even take off her white socks for me!). Blaire gets extra points for letting me kiss her pretty feet and suck her gorgeous toes (and she got a bit tickled!).
Blaire didn't rush me at all, which is very important for me because I like to take things slow. We probably spent an hour "upstairs". And once we were back downstairs she didn't immediately hustle me out the door. We sat on her couch again for more fruit juice and conversation. Blaire is no clock watcher but she did finally ask to call it a night. All together she spent almost two hours with me! A vast improvement over the half hour sessions I used to get from her co-workers at her previous place of employment.
My visit with Blaire was absolutely, positively, hands down, no contest the BEST NIGHT OF WHOLE LIFE. Many, many times better than any date I've ever had with a civilian. My time with Blaire was fun, funny (in addition to being a an accomplished conversationalist she has a sparkling and contagious sense of humor!) , warm, sexy, passionate and above all romantic (and I'm usually a cynic who questions whether romance even exists). Everything a date with a woman is supposed to be but usually isn't.
As physically attractive as Blaire is, her finest asset is her wonderful personality. Blaire has a beautiful heart and soul! She has many fans here at USG and deservedly so. If anyone else wants to share any stories about Blaire, I'd love to her them (public post or PM, whichever you prefer). Blaire's current USG handle is "BlaireKarmen".
Occasionally angels walk among us mere mortals and Blaire is one of them. I almost never cry but I have literally shed tears over Blaire's departure. I will definitely never forget Blaire. Wherever Blaire goes I wish her a safe trip and a healthy and happy life!
I read in the paper about several different apartments that were backed by a Mexican cartel for pleasure. The System was many different states that catered to Hispanic men. It got busted. I did not see any mention on here. The artical was in the Star. Did I miss something?
[QUOTE=Fudge1;1190252]I read in the paper about several different apartments that were backed by a Mexican cartel for pleasure. The System was many different states that catered to Hispanic men. It got busted. I did not see any mention on here. The artical was in the Star. Did I miss something?[/QUOTE]I saw this on the news late one night. I never knew we had a big hispanic incall service. I would have loved that. What I heard was that the men traffic girls and they lived here in Indy. They had businesses in all the surrounding states and operated out of Indy.
[QUOTE=Fudge1;1190252]I read in the paper about several different apartments that were backed by a Mexican cartel for pleasure. The System was many different states that catered to Hispanic men. It got busted. I did not see any mention on here. The artical was in the Star. Did I miss something?[/QUOTE]I too wondered how this could have existed here without any knowledge / reports on this forum. (It couldn't have ALL been happening via PM.) I think this was a system that was only for folks "in-the-know," but I have no idea who that would be. The report referenced something about business cards for seemingly legitimate business that contained the necessary info when decoded by the right people. Maybe I shouldn't have ignored "Happy Endings Lawn and Garden Service!"
Anyone ever see this girl? Any info would be great.
She says she has a room 86th and michigan.
[QUOTE=Fudge1;1190252]I read in the paper about several different apartments that were backed by a Mexican cartel for pleasure. The System was many different states that catered to Hispanic men. It got busted. I did not see any mention on here. The artical was in the Star. Did I miss something?[/QUOTE]I always knew something was going on at International Village, even way back in the early 90s when I lived in Deercross. Never could get any answers though (my massive whiteness and lack of Espanol might have been the reason.)