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[QUOTE=Cpcdman; 1405165]"

Great pics but to bad she's not GFE.

You can show all the "spread" shot's you want to suck in all of us you want but when a lady isn't GFE honestly don't waste our time.

I just looked on the RT website and I'd like to know what is "light GFE" that's a new acronym.

Either a lady is GFE or she's not. Everything I've heard about her is that she rushes appointment's and she upsells.

So typical of RT girls.

Kat can say what she wants,"Well if you booked her through us she'd be GFE", that's BS.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm tired of paying good money for less than stellar service.

Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Believe it or not, but there are gentlemen who are not looking for GFE.

As for your other comments, I take great offense, especially from someone who I don't believe has ever actually been a client of ours (please correct me if I'm wrong). If you have a specific issue with one of my girls who you have actually seen yourself, then please tell me, and I'll do what I can to fix it. But please do not make such general statements about girls that you have never met. If you're looking for GFE, please mention that when booking your appointment. If you're trying to schedule with a girl who is not GFE, we'll suggest you see someone else. If you still decide to see her, don't complain you weren't happy because she wasn't GFE. It's like buying a sports car instead of a pickup truck, and then complaining that it can't tow your trailer.

Xoxo Kat oxox

[QUOTE=Cpcdman; 1405368]Thanks for your post.

But I'm a little confused,"So if you want the real RT experience, it has to be an outcall"?

What difference should it make if a lady does an incall or an outcall as to what services she offers, if she's GFE for an outcall I would think she would be the same for an incall?[/QUOTE]It's not about incall or outcall effecting services, it's about which girls offer GFE and which don't. It just so happens that of Kat's current girls, the GFE ones are all outcall only. In a perfect world, they'd all be GFE. Actually in my perfect world, they'd all be GFE (including BBFS with no chance of STDs or pregnancy) , and paying me. But some people say I suffer from delusions of grandeur. But I digress. Kat is a good friend of mine, and I have a tendency to get all white knight where she's involved, which is why I try to not get involved in these conversations. So I'm going to step back now. I'm sure she'll be turning up soon herself anyway to fill in the details, or correct my statements. I may know more than most, but she doesn't involve me in every detail.

Stay safe, and happy hunting.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I am somewhat disturbed by these pics. That girl looks to be about college age at most. (If you told me she was in high school, I couldn't dispute it.) So why is such a young girl showing her face in pictures like that on a public message board? Granted, this is not the front page of Yahoo, but it's still a public board. Do her parents care what happens to her? Do her teachers care? Does her family care? Does this girl have anyone in her life who would be concerned if they saw these pics?

Never run across that term before on the internet."Light GFE". LOL. Is she petite? Never seen it posted on RSG site, either.

In my opinion, GFE refers to DATY, BBBJ and DFK, since I think we can assume that all the ladies offer CFS.

Once this gets out,"Light GFE" will be used in all the bogus ads on BP. I believe St. Bart defined the term so there would be a standard for the industry, at least in the Boston area. I have copied his post from another BoarD, going back about 10 years or so.

[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328; 1405281]I believe RSG uses the term "light GFE" as well, although I'm unsure what the actual definition of it is. In Katie's case, I know that she does light kissing, and DATY, but no BBBJ, or DFK.

Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]St. Bart's GFE Scale:

"When I first started hobbying 4 years ago, I was dismayed how the term "GFE" was bandied about. Some ladies that I dated based on reviews were far, far, from GFE. The reviewer, I decided afterwards, was simply using the term to say he had a nice time, which is fine.

BUT, and always recognizing YMMV, I never had a GF that didn't DFK, or allow DATY, or give BBBJ. When these 3 acts come with enthusiastic FS, I define the experience as 100% GFE on the Saint Bart Scale. For every item missing. 10% is deducted. I usually don't like to be specific in a review about the acts I enjoyed. It can unnecessairily put a lady "on the spot" with the next hobbyist."you did ABC for him, so why not me?" That's not fair to her.

So, the SBS has just enough ambiguity to protect her, yet describe my experience. For example, I recently posted a review of Lisa from Eye Candy. She was 70% on the SBS. As I think all know, my ATF Badgirl is 100% on the SBS. Top's Penelope, with me, was 80%GFE, which reflected my YMMV as I've subsequently read others found her to be 90%GFE. IMO, this is usually all the detail required for the reader to get a good idea of the service level, subject to YMMV.

Now, sometimes extras are available that go beyond 100%GFE, and might not be allowed by your civilian GF. The two most common examples are Greek and BBBJTC. Actual CIM. To me whether she spits or swallows, it doesn't matter. These are handled in a review with a "+", or "Plus" for each act. Missy, I've written and many have enjoyed, is famous for her Plus ending. So Missy's 100%GFE+ or 100%GFE Plus. The Plus Missy earns is undefined, but all get the picture. Aussie Amber takes it one Plus further, to what I think of as a PSE. She's 100%GFE++ or 100%GFE Plus, Plus. Again, I think one gets the picture, and doesn't need the actual details. I've had rare dates that actually earned as many as 4 Plusses. More were awarded for spending the night "on the house", and for allowing pictures (hear that Nurse?). I suppose they could also be awarded for actions that don't interest me. B&D, or golden showers, etc.

Real GFs have been delivering GFEs since Adam and Eve. I've simply tried to tie it all together to help hobbyists get the info they need without putting ladies on the spot."

[QUOTE=Choir Boy;1405407]I know I'm in the minority here, but I am somewhat disturbed by these pics. That girl looks to be about college age at most. (If you told me she was in high school, I couldn't dispute it.) So why is such a young girl showing her face in pictures like that on a public message board? Granted, this is not the front page of Yahoo, but it's still a public board. Do her parents care what happens to her? Do her teachers care? Does her family care? Does this girl have anyone in her life who would be concerned if they saw these pics?[/QUOTE]No offense. But the moral dilemma you are having seemed to have happened after you logged in, clicked on the forum and then clicked on the pics. You might want to not watch football if you can't stand men hitting each other. Likewise, don't click on escort reviews if seeing hot young ladies bothers you.

What would her parents think? What would your parents or significant other think if you were paying to touch strange woman? You may want to answer the later first.

BB

I found myself looking for a "like" button on Cpcdman's posts. He absolutely nailed it, hit it out of the park. One reason I find myself as a "semi-retired" hobbyist is that I got sick of immature bitchy drug addicts leading me around by the nuts. I've never gotten physically violent toward a woman but I give all of these semi-lying backpage girls, and these other bitches who think theirs is made of gold the hardest figurative ***** slap I can. They're not getting my money.

GFE.

Full GFE.

Light GFE.

GFE +

Or whatever the modifier around the "GFE"

The things is that by seeing it at their web sites or in their ads, you almost know what you would expect. For some people, they care more about if the girl is "Hot" or not to their standard. For me, I care less about DATY or CBJ or BBBJ, of course it's nicer to have BBBJ than CBJ, but the hotness takes over for the decision.

Look, obviously if there is a gray area the providers or their handlers will try to play with it to turn it to their advantage. It's only natural. It's called spinning your business and complaining about it is pointless.

The other acronyms like BBBJ, DFK and the like have no gray area about them. If you want real GFE experience don't ask if she offers GFE, ask if she offers DFK. To me, that's a sign of quality of time you're going to have. Even if you don't like to DFK, if she doesn't offer DFK. Chances are you're going to be singing [I]Domo arigato, Ms. Rob&1086; to[/I] After you leave.

[QUOTE=Usedj; 1405462]GFE.

Full GFE.

Light GFE.

GFE +

Or whatever the modifier around the "GFE"

The things is that by seeing it at their web sites or in their ads, you almost know what you would expect. For some people, they care more about if the girl is "Hot" or not to their standard. For me, I care less about DATY or CBJ or BBBJ, of course it's nicer to have BBBJ than CBJ, but the hotness takes over for the decision.[/QUOTE]

I'm 100% with BaconBits here. If they are over 18 we shouldn't be worrying about their parents. People differ, their life paths differ. Some are born president's children, others are born into families and / or end up in such situations when becoming a provider is far from the worst outcome. The fact that Choir Boy may not be able to relate to it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. After all chances are Choir Boy can't relate to being a president's kid too. It doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

It happens trust me and usually it happens when people are between 13 & 20.

I have little doubt that Kat with her apparent organizational skills and diligence checks to make sure that they're all over 18 and unlike us she knows their real names. I wouldn't concern myself with her parents if I'd be you Choir Boy. I'd think of what would she be doing if she hadn't had a body to sell. Think about all the male children that end up in similar situation and don't have that option. I bet you wouldn't want to run into them at night. Chances are, Katie on the other hand is pretty harmless.

And teachers? What teachers?

[QUOTE=BaconBits; 1405420]No offense. But the moral dilemma you are having seemed to have happened after you logged in, clicked on the forum and then clicked on the pics. You might want to not watch football if you can't stand men hitting each other. Likewise, don't click on escort reviews if seeing hot young ladies bothers you.

What would her parents think? What would your parents or significant other think if you were paying to touch strange woman? You may want to answer the later first.

BB[/QUOTE]

No, you're right I haven't seen any of your girls, but I have 2 very good friends who have and I know what they tell me is the truth they have no reason to lie.

The only lady that you represent that was a true GFE experience and a wonderful young lady was Autumn you can read her 2 reviews and most likely figure out who one of my friends is. I will in the very near future make an appointment to see Autumn based on what I've been told but your other ladies that my friends have seen I will pass on.

I guess everyone is looking for something different but for me and the other hobbiest's I know are all looking for GFE.

[QUOTE=Kit Kat; 1405376]Believe it or not, but there are gentlemen who are not looking for GFE.

As for your other comments, I take great offense, especially from someone who I don't believe has ever actually been a client of ours (please correct me if I'm wrong). If you have a specific issue with one of my girls who you have actually seen yourself, then please tell me, and I'll do what I can to fix it. But please do not make such general statements about girls that you have never met. If you're looking for GFE, please mention that when booking your appointment. If you're trying to schedule with a girl who is not GFE, we'll suggest you see someone else. If you still decide to see her, don't complain you weren't happy because she wasn't GFE. It's like buying a sports car instead of a pickup truck, and then complaining that it can't tow your trailer.

Xoxo Kat oxox[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cpcdman; 1405165]"

Great pics but to bad she's not GFE.

You can show all the "spread" shot's you want to suck in all of us you want but when a lady isn't GFE honestly don't waste our time.

I just looked on the RT website and I'd like to know what is "light GFE" that's a new acronym.

Either a lady is GFE or she's not. Everything I've heard about her is that she rushes appointment's and she upsells.

So typical of RT girls.

Kat can say what she wants,"Well if you booked her through us she'd be GFE", that's BS.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm tired of paying good money for less than stellar service.

Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Hi CpCdMan. As usual appreciate the cents you threw in. I would like to add a disclaimer to what you said though. You said that unless a girl is GFE don't waste our time. And I acknowledge that most are probavbly looking for that. Well I for one am not looking for a lady that is GFE in the literal SBS so the pics and descriptions are not a waste of time to me and I'm sure many others. (and please let's not get into the whole argument about what is and what isn't as I've been through a thousand of them in my 30+ years doing this.) My wishes are simple and maybe it comes with age but I am not a fan of BB anyway. To me covered is certainly fine and doesn't take away from the session. There are many reasons for it including the fact that it is not necessary for me to enjoy the session but simply put I wish to be on the 'safer' side of things. It has nothing to do with the girl but I have known several that were with a 'clean' lady and ended up with a take home. In both cases the lady had been tested very recently and been clean. So anything can happen and is not worth my waiting 3 weeks for something to happen or not.

For me a great session involves a nice massage, kiss and cuddle time (doesn't have to be DFK) , some conversation and a nice climax to a successful ending. It doesn't have to be 'hot, groping, sweaty, fall off the bed sex'. I've actually had a few sesions where it was mostly a 'petting' session and we got lost in it and never got to the ending and it was just as enjoyable as others. (Deb can attest to that. LOL)

Of course the problem is that most of the ladies out there prefer the former style and finding those that like the slower GFE (kiss, cuddle, talk, massage-the things that you do with a girlfriend. But not all things I understand) are few and far between. Again my age is probably showing but I just think there is more to sex than getting in and getting out.

While I do agree with you that we are all sick of paying good money for less than stellar service to me just because she isn't a BB GFE doesn't mean she is providing less than stellar service to MY standards. Yes upselling, shorting time, fake pics. Yes I agree with you.

So the pics for 'non' GFE' ladies aren't a waste of my time and isn't sucking me in. If I like what I see I call and ask if she does do what I like. If yes great if not that's fine too. Besides I do appreciate seeing cute and sexy girls even if I'm not going to go out and see them. Again that's just me appreciating one of god's creations.

Just a few cents from good ole SO. BTW if anyone does know any ladies of the type I mentioned please let me know! SO

Reading your post I totally agree with your thought process and what you're looking for with a lady and totally respect what you are looking for in an appointment.

Looking back I should have said don't waste my time I shouldn't speak for everyone just myself.

Obviously every lady is different there are ladies that I see that are what you speak of very laid back and like to take things slow and then there are a couple of ladies I see that are on the wild side. Depending on what I'm looking for in an appointment that is who I'll see.

As for your BB comment I'm not sure what you mean, as far as oral that's what I look for, but for full service I always play safe.

I will say that her pics are very nice and very suggestive, I find that a lady who has pictures that aren't quite as upfront showing all of her assets, that are more suggestive showing what she has but in a subtle way are more to my liking makes me wonder what's underneath! Love to want! LOL!

By the way I sent you a PM.

Have a great weekend!

[QUOTE=Stressed Out; 1405570]Hi CpCdMan. As usual appreciate the cents you threw in. I would like to add a disclaimer to what you said though. You said that unless a girl is GFE don't waste our time. And I acknowledge that most are probavbly looking for that. Well I for one am not looking for a lady that is GFE in the literal SBS so the pics and descriptions are not a waste of time to me and I'm sure many others. (and please let's not get into the whole argument about what is and what isn't as I've been through a thousand of them in my 30+ years doing this.) My wishes are simple and maybe it comes with age but I am not a fan of BB anyway. To me covered is certainly fine and doesn't take away from the session. There are many reasons for it including the fact that it is not necessary for me to enjoy the session but simply put I wish to be on the 'safer' side of things. It has nothing to do with the girl but I have known several that were with a 'clean' lady and ended up with a take home. In both cases the lady had been tested very recently and been clean. So anything can happen and is not worth my waiting 3 weeks for something to happen or not.

For me a great session involves a nice massage, kiss and cuddle time (doesn't have to be DFK) , some conversation and a nice climax to a successful ending. It doesn't have to be 'hot, groping, sweaty, fall off the bed sex'. I've actually had a few sesions where it was mostly a 'petting' session and we got lost in it and never got to the ending and it was just as enjoyable as others. (Deb can attest to that. LOL)

Of course the problem is that most of the ladies out there prefer the former style and finding those that like the slower GFE (kiss, cuddle, talk, massage-the things that you do with a girlfriend. But not all things I understand) are few and far between. Again my age is probably showing but I just think there is more to sex than getting in and getting out.

While I do agree with you that we are all sick of paying good money for less than stellar service to me just because she isn't a BB GFE doesn't mean she is providing less than stellar service to MY standards. Yes upselling, shorting time, fake pics. Yes I agree with you.

So the pics for 'non' GFE' ladies aren't a waste of my time and isn't sucking me in. If I like what I see I call and ask if she does do what I like. If yes great if not that's fine too. Besides I do appreciate seeing cute and sexy girls even if I'm not going to go out and see them. Again that's just me appreciating one of god's creations.

Just a few cents from good ole SO. BTW if anyone does know any ladies of the type I mentioned please let me know! SO[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cpcdman; 1405589]Reading your post I totally agree with your thought process and what you're looking for with a lady and totally respect what you are looking for in an appointment.

Looking back I should have said don't waste my time I shouldn't speak for everyone just myself.

Obviously every lady is different there are ladies that I see that are what you speak of very laid back and like to take things slow and then there are a couple of ladies I see that are on the wild side. Depending on what I'm looking for in an appointment that is who I'll see.

As for your BB comment I'm not sure what you mean, as far as oral that's what I look for, but for full service I always play safe.[/QUOTE]I always wonder about the safety of DATY, DFK, BB. Etc. Think about it, from down there and up there. Especially if the provider meet others before you that day, or the days earlier. Is DFK really a good idea? Obviously the lady doesn't care even though she is more at risk, and that's probably why many don't do it. I actually sometimes respect and like that since it could make me safe, or so I think.

Somebody is more in the know may give more insight about this, I hope.

[QUOTE=Usedj; 1405646]I always wonder about the safety of DATY, DFK, BB. Etc. Think about it, from down there and up there. Especially if the provider meet others before you that day, or the days earlier. Is DFK really a good idea? Obviously the lady doesn't care even though she is more at risk, and that's probably why many don't do it. I actually sometimes respect and like that since it could make me safe, or so I think.

Somebody is more in the know may give more insight about this, I hope.[/QUOTE]It's kind of like comparing "less-lethal" weapons and firearms. Any time bodily fluids are exchanged there is a risk. Obviously some activities pose more risk than others. It's all about the level of risk you're willing to accept. Some activities are more risky to one party than the other (ie BBBJ or DATY). Most studies show that your main risks in unprotected oral sex include chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, and herpes. All but herpes are easily cured with antibiotics.

Stay safe, and happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328;1405786]Most studies show that your main risks in unprotected oral sex include chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, and herpes. All but herpes are easily cured with antibiotics.[/QUOTE]There was a time that may have been true, but in the case of gonorrhea that's no longer the case. Up until recently I was involved in epidemiologic investigations involving antibiotic resistant gonorrhea, and it's really starting to get scary.