"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

There she is. Figured she had a "professional" presence somewhere.

[QUOTE=DavidGooms;6259247]Try to contact her thru * You may get lucky.

[URL]https://onlyfans.com/andiespalace[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrownSugaTwo;6258609]Anyone seen "The best"?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/13e71c76-7f66-4197-a39a-72d3a56eda4e[/URL]

She's had a few profiles, and by the looks of it, she's a professional provider. However, I haven't been able to find her on any escort sites. I like her look, so if she's GFE, I wouldn't mind giving her a shot, unless someone reports a bad experience.[/QUOTE]She's a pro. Been talked about here 100 times.

[QUOTE=BrownSugaTwo;6259778]There she is. Figured she had a "professional" presence somewhere.[/QUOTE]Can someone explain to me the point of [URL]onlyfans.com[/URL]? Why would you pay for pictures from some random pro / escort you'll never meet in person? Why not just rub one out at [URL]pornhub.com[/URL] or whatever.

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6260477]Can someone explain to me the point of [URL]onlyfans.com[/URL]? Why would you pay for pictures from some random pro / escort you'll never meet in person? Why not just rub one out at [URL]pornhub.com[/URL] or whatever.[/QUOTE]"Different strokes for different folks".

[QUOTE=TylerDurden07;6256728][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/659cd00b-4a31-49bf-8933-a79a8b7feaf9[/URL]

She's real & her pics are real. I'm a sucker for her look: ink, black hair & tall. Had a long & really nice chat on the messenger, she said she'd just created her profile & had 50 messages already (not surprised). Wanted to know if I was legit & told her I'm a real sugar daddy & have been for a long time. Then, after all that, & almost 30 messages, she acted puzzled when intimacy was mentioned for the first time. Asked her what she wanted: "Just quality time, nice dates and an allowance. " Question: why is she on a sugar dating site & not a regular dating site?

I just ended the conversation at that point as I'm not paying for that with no fun included, so no specific allowance details were discussed. These girls have no clue as to how disrespectful they sound when they pull these kind of stunts. We all work too hard to earn our money to not get what we want.

She's hot. Go for it if you want. Who knows, maybe you'll have better luck?[/QUOTE]She says, "Strong Preference for Women" on her profile as well as looking for Men / Women. I've noticed a lot of women on Seeking that are quite obviously more into women than men. And maybe not really into men at all. But they've found out the truth: women, even very wealthy women, aren't paying! There's probably an example here and there that go against that wisdom. But if you're looking for a sugar mama, it's a needle in a haystack. Whereas, there are plenty of sugar daddies.

Hey guys, started chatting with this little blonde and curious if any of of you have experience with here:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9562ece7-be67-4e1e-ab85-dc7fd8add858[/URL]

Very good at chat. Thought we were getting somewhere LOL. Then 500 per meet and she can't host. At that price I didn't even try to negotiate. After crickets on my end she simply said she would consider an allowance. I've just totally ignored her from then on out.

Not sure about the rest of you but I seemed to be getting a lot more than normal of GPS from the site the last couple of weeks.

May the pussy be with you!

SD.

[QUOTE=ReffingMan94;6261234]Hey guys, started chatting with this little blonde and curious if any of of you have experience with here:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9562ece7-be67-4e1e-ab85-dc7fd8add858[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SugarDaddio;6261626]Very good at chat. Thought we were getting somewhere LOL. Then 500 per meet and she can't host. At that price I didn't even try to negotiate. After crickets on my end she simply said she would consider an allowance. I've just totally ignored her from then on out.

Not sure about the rest of you but I seemed to be getting a lot more than normal of GPS from the site the last couple of weeks.

May the pussy be with you!

SD.[/QUOTE]Gave me the same price. Said she would stay 2 to 3 hours since she liked me. Even though we never met.

[QUOTE=Luap52;6260627]"Different strokes for different folks".[/QUOTE]OF is not without some usefulness. If a prospective SB has an OF page, I'll subscribe to it IF IF IF it's free. I kinda like seeing what I'm going to get before I get into private with one of these girls. But like I said, it'd better be free to subscribe. And yeah, if she's got some nude pics / vids up on the page, I'll pay $10 or less, but no more. Think of it as reconnaissance.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6255002]I think 'curvy' is in the eye of the beholder, and dependent on the locale. For young girls, here in California, I think they can also use curvy to mean they have some plump assets (boobs, butt), not that they are fat.[/QUOTE]I agree with this 100%. A lot of younger girls think curvy means they have boobs or an ass. The first girl I ever met in this context many years ago described herself as curvy (she was 21). She was an absolute knockout, thin, 5'-2" 120 lbs with D cup tits. I asked her about it one day and she thought curvy was a perfectly accurate description of her body type, she had no idea most guys interpreted it as a code word for overweight. I think the perspective above is spot on: if they're under 25, then about half the time "curvy" could mean just mean they have ample boobs and / or ass. As you get closer to 30 and beyond, "curvy" just means belly rolls (if not worse). I have curvy as a body type in most of my searches, but there are a ton of women who come up who don't even belong in the "a few extra pounds" class. They're flat out obese. Ugh.

[QUOTE=TylerDurden07;6261733]OF is not without some usefulness. If a prospective SB has an OF page, I'll subscribe to it IF IF IF it's free. I kinda like seeing what I'm going to get before I get into private with one of these girls. But like I said, it'd better be free to subscribe. And yeah, if she's got some nude pics / vids up on the page, I'll pay $10 or less, but no more. Think of it as reconnaissance.[/QUOTE]I would be concerned that a OF SB is too much of a pro to pursue. I'm all about the UTR scene.

My current subscription expires tomorrow, so hopefully they will do another 33% off deal for Christmas, or at least New Years.

[QUOTE=SugarDaddio;6261626]Very good at chat. Thought we were getting somewhere LOL. Then 500 per meet and she can't host. At that price I didn't even try to negotiate. After crickets on my end she simply said she would consider an allowance. I've just totally ignored her from then on out.

SD.[/QUOTE]I just did 500 ppm for the first time yesterday with a different 24 y/o (agreed on 400 but I gave her extra 100), but she was really cute and BBFS CIP....and she went on a 2 hr hike with me before we went to the hotel for 90 min or so. Ok that tinylittlepixie on is 24 y/o too, but looks older. Maybe just not my type, but 300 seems more appropriate there, if not 250. (And always talking about BBFS prices, as CFS would be $100 less.)

And I got together with a 22 y/o pregnant girl out West last month for 400....well we agreed on 300 there, but once again I gave her extra, because was just so. damn. good. These last two are definitely Top 5 of any girls I've seen from site, over the past few years. So on a mini hot streak, but I'm sure it will end soon.

Anyway I am trying some of the 400 girls now and will just try to see less than I used to when I was doing 250-300. They can be worth it...this last one certainly was, although I wish she would have let me take pics. I'll probably review her on here eventually, but keeping her under wraps for now. Hopefully will get some repeat action, but we shall see.

Her account showed as deleted earlier today (I actually thought she might have blocked me), but then was back. I mentioned that weird fact as an icebreaker (not the best line, but I was just reengaging conversation).

Anyways, she completely flipped out, talked about me needing psych help and accused me of threatening to kill her. I'll post the full conversation for your inspection.

I am not particularly worried about them banning me like she says because I still cannot see where I did anything wrong. However, I tend to avoid crazy wherever I can, but she is hot so proceed at your own risk. Maybe she was just having a bad day 🤷127995;128514;128514;128514;.

Edit: apparently I don’t know how to control the order of the attachments, so good luck interpreting it 😂😂

Seems we've done ourselves a Very Stable Genius, here. I told why'all. At this point I think you guys keep messaging her just to poke the bear and see what kinda crazy you can get out of her today.

[QUOTE=Bawall69;6262340]Her account showed as deleted earlier today (I actually thought she might have blocked me), but then was back. I mentioned that weird fact as an icebreaker (not the best line, but I was just reengaging conversation).

Anyways, she completely flipped out, talked about me needing psych help and accused me of threatening to kill her. I'll post the full conversation for your inspection.

I am not particularly worried about them banning me like she says because I still cannot see where I did anything wrong. However, I tend to avoid crazy wherever I can, but she is hot so proceed at your own risk. Maybe she was just having a bad day 🤷127995;128514;128514;128514;.

Edit: apparently I dont know how to control the order of the attachments, so good luck interpreting it 😂😂[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bawall69;6262340]
I am not particularly worried about them banning me like she says because I still cannot see where I did anything wrong. [/QUOTE]I got a warning on the site and didn't do anything wrong either. Remember, the girls can report you and claim that you offered them money for sex, off the site.

[QUOTE=DocHolliday35;6253114]400, BBBJ, cfs, multiple rounds, hotel. She thoroughly enjoys sex however she is not my type.[/QUOTE]Not your type? Why? Great looking bod.

[QUOTE=Bawall69;6262340]Her account showed as deleted earlier today (I actually thought she might have blocked me), but then was back. I mentioned that weird fact as an icebreaker (not the best line, but I was just reengaging conversation).

Anyways, she completely flipped out, talked about me needing psych help and accused me of threatening to kill her. I'll post the full conversation for your inspection.

I am not particularly worried about them banning me like she says because I still cannot see where I did anything wrong. However, I tend to avoid crazy wherever I can, but she is hot so proceed at your own risk. Maybe she was just having a bad day 🤷127995;128514;128514;128514;.

Edit: apparently I dont know how to control the order of the attachments, so good luck interpreting it 😂😂[/QUOTE]Anytime they refer to me as "love" alarm bells go off. Anyway thanks for the text screenshots, I needed some nice laughs this Tuesday morning.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6262729]I got a warning on the site and didn't do anything wrong either. Remember, the girls can report you and claim that you offered them money for sex, off the site.[/QUOTE]Which is why after you start texting you block the girl on SA so she can't report you.

[QUOTE=Dawgins;6262442]Seems we've done ourselves a Very Stable Genius, here. I told why'all. At this point I think you guys keep messaging her just to poke the bear and see what kinda crazy you can get out of her today.[/QUOTE]So many dudes on here, myself included, have experienced her, um, "eccentricities. " I'd love to see if there's a way we can shut her down, at least get her permanently banned from the site. There should be consequences for her blowing up at every guy she talks to.

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6262264]I would be concerned that a OF SB is too much of a pro to pursue. I'm all about the UTR scene.[/QUOTE]So far (knock on wood), I've not had that problem.

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[QUOTE=SeekingHead;6263072]Which is why after you start texting you block the girl on SA so she can't report you.[/QUOTE]Smart move, and I really should start doing this, but I like having the ones Archived that I have already spoken to, for easy access to their pics, etc. But there are other ways to do this and I shouldn't be lazy and should block, as you suggest.

I have been off a few months but I remember still being able to report someone EVEN if they blocked me. So that does not "save" you.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6263537]Smart move, and I really should start doing this, but I like having the ones Archived that I have already spoken to, for easy access to their pics, etc. But there are other ways to do this and I shouldn't be lazy and should block, as you suggest.[/QUOTE]

Made out in the parking lot after a night of drinks with this one but didn't get any further. Later that week she moved a few hours south from Atlanta.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0d7b24d3-7e10-41bf-851f-4c669059dd1f[/URL]

Any info on OpalQueen4?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9ccd6a9d-a631-4301-8dc4-3ff313c4db44[/URL]

[QUOTE=TylerDurden07;6263195]So far (knock on wood), I've not had that problem.[/QUOTE]You're telling me you can get BBFS with SB that are on OF in the $200-$300 range?

I'm not paying for covered anything , it has zero value to me. I'll just go vanilla and deal with that shit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8d6fe6b6-4a82-4f94-9ab5-ded2f7656260[/URL]

Saw her after Thanksgiving. Not sure why she doesn't update her location as she told me she hasn't been in Forest Park for awhile. The pic of her is accurate but very flattering. When I saw her, she came from work w / o makeup etc and didn't look as good. Has more tattoos now too. She is petite which I like but she was almost too thin. We agreed to $$. 5 for two hours and she came over. FYI, told me she can host and would be moving to Buckhead in December.

Unfortunately the sex wasn't that great. She doesn't like to kiss and only CBJ and CFS. The problem is that she didn't enjoy herself and basically a starfish. Though she did enjoy DATY and gave her an O. After I popped, we cuddled for a bit but when I started for rd 2; she gave pickup the kid excuse and that she'd make it up to me next time yada yada. I highly doubt I'll see her again unless I have no other options.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6263537]Smart move, and I really should start doing this, but I like having the ones Archived that I have already spoken to, for easy access to their pics, etc. But there are other ways to do this and I shouldn't be lazy and should block, as you suggest.[/QUOTE]The best way to deal with SB retards is to ghost at the first sign of retard. If they call you "love" that is ghetto / trash language for a "john". Insta-ghost them. Block them immediately on seeking too so they can't find you anymore. Remember these bitches are morons and if you disappear from their message list they will move on to the next poor sap to try to exploit and rain down their crazy on.

I don't want my account banned so no reason to engage a wild animal in the wild.

What's the potential scam / angle in play when a "woman" (or scammer) is trying to get your phone number right off the bat? Over the last week or two, a couple different SBs asked for my number right away, then blocked me after I gave it, and then never text messaged me on the phone number. So I assume getting the phone number was the goal all along. I use google voice, which is linked to a gmail account with no personal information associated with it, so I'm not worried about giving out that number. But because this has happened a few times recently with the same approach, I assume there is some kind of scam in the works. I'm wondering what it is. Why would a scammer want to collect phone numbers?

[QUOTE=TylerDurden07;6263195]So far (knock on wood), I've not had that problem.[/QUOTE]Me either. Actually had one that I made content with. Was pretty fucking hot.

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6264451]You're telling me you can get BBFS with SB that are on OF in the $200-$300 range?

I'm not paying for covered anything , it has zero value to me. I'll just go vanilla and deal with that shit.[/QUOTE]I don't do covered anything either, but the answer to your question is yes. On OF, pay attention to what they charge. If it's not a free subscription, avoid. Further, if it's some ridiculous amount to buy a pic or vid, avoid that too. Those are the girls that are making money off of OF & therefore can negotiate from a position of strength, I. E. , give you GPS numbers because they don't "need" you. OTOH, the free or very low cost ones need the money. Those will take the $200-300 ppm.

[QUOTE=LoriTruck;6264331]Made out in the parking lot after a night of drinks with this one but didn't get any further. Later that week she moved a few hours south from Atlanta.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0d7b24d3-7e10-41bf-851f-4c669059dd1f[/URL]

Any info on OpalQueen4?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9ccd6a9d-a631-4301-8dc4-3ff313c4db44[/URL][/QUOTE]Talked a good bit with her a few months ago. She's real, nice & I think she's a beautiful young girl. Unfortunately, our schedules didn't mesh well, so we never met, but that's not her fault. If you see her, I'd love to hear how it went. I liked her.

[QUOTE=DArrow404;6264458][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8d6fe6b6-4a82-4f94-9ab5-ded2f7656260[/URL]

Saw her after Thanksgiving. Not sure why she doesn't update her location as she told me she hasn't been in Forest Park for awhile. The pic of her is accurate but very flattering. When I saw her, she came from work w / o makeup etc and didn't look as good. Has more tattoos now too. She is petite which I like but she was almost too thin. We agreed to $$. 5 for two hours and she came over. FYI, told me she can host and would be moving to Buckhead in December.

Unfortunately the sex wasn't that great. She doesn't like to kiss and only CBJ and CFS. The problem is that she didn't enjoy herself and basically a starfish. Though she did enjoy DATY and gave her an O. After I popped, we cuddled for a bit but when I started for rd 2; she gave pickup the kid excuse and that she'd make it up to me next time yada yada. I highly doubt I'll see her again unless I have no other options.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I reviewed her last year and had a very similar experience, though at least I got BBJ, though she was real light with it, and could tell she didn't really want it in her mouth. She hosted and was 200 for me.

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6264451]You're telling me you can get BBFS with SB that are on OF in the $200-$300 range?

I'm not paying for covered anything , it has zero value to me. I'll just go vanilla and deal with that shit.[/QUOTE]I've met all my SBs through SA, but 2 of them had active OF and I fucked one of them bare for weeks (or months in case of my current) for 200 PPM. The other was a 1 time CFS that was only 100 Gift card plus hotel (I put up pics of her in greatest hits thread). Her OF is still active and she posts nudes to twitter.

I had one last year that smashed for 3 months bare for 200 PPM plus hotel, but ended things once she started to get a little dramatic. We stayed friends on snap, which is how I know she eventually started an OF once I cut things off with her.

So yeah, I've been with at least 3 OF girls, and I think 1 other former OF girl, and all for an average of 200 PPM plus room (and one unicorn for 100).

I smashed her two times about six months ago. Beautiful girl, very toned body. BBBJ, BBFS, CIP. No complaints about her bedroom performance. $200 ppm + hotel.

Reliability is the issue. I didn't appreciate sitting in the hotel room, and each time she showed up belated, about 60-90 minutes after our agreed-upon time. Plus, she will get it over w / in 45 min or less.

[QUOTE=TylerDurden07;6264623]Talked a good bit with her a few months ago. She's real, nice & I think she's a beautiful young girl. Unfortunately, our schedules didn't mesh well, so we never met, but that's not her fault. If you see her, I'd love to hear how it went. I liked her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6264451]You're telling me you can get BBFS with SB that are on OF in the $200-$300 range?

I'm not paying for covered anything , it has zero value to me. I'll just go vanilla and deal with that shit.[/QUOTE]Any girl can make an OF. It doesn't mean she is attractive and has a very profitable one.

And yes same here, I'm not paying for CFS. Or maybe would do 100 in some cases, but most all the girls would get insulted if that was offered, although some would probably take 100 for just BBBJ.

[QUOTE=LoverAtl;6265014]I smashed her two times about six months ago. Beautiful girl, very toned body. BBBJ, BBFS, CIP. No complaints about her bedroom performance. $200 ppm + hotel.

Reliability is the issue. I didn't appreciate sitting in the hotel room, and each time she showed up belated, about 60-90 minutes after our agreed-upon time. Plus, she will get it over w / in 45 min or less.[/QUOTE]She ghosted me about 4 months ago. Contacted me the next day with some lame excuse. Tried for another meetup and she had to check the drive and never heard back from her. Think I'll try again knowing she's real. She lives / lived in Midtown and I'm in Marietta. Not too far.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6264590]What's the potential scam / angle in play when a "woman" (or scammer) is trying to get your phone number right off the bat? Over the last week or two, a couple different SBs asked for my number right away, then blocked me after I gave it, and then never text messaged me on the phone number. So I assume getting the phone number was the goal all along. I use google voice, which is linked to a gmail account with no personal information associated with it, so I'm not worried about giving out that number. But because this has happened a few times recently with the same approach, I assume there is some kind of scam in the works. I'm wondering what it is. Why would a scammer want to collect phone numbers?[/QUOTE]Extortion perhaps if it was your real number? Who knows. Could be a pimp compiling a list of Johns for his hoes.

[QUOTE=TylerDurden07;6264616]I don't do covered anything either, but the answer to your question is yes. On OF, pay attention to what they charge. If it's not a free subscription, avoid. Further, if it's some ridiculous amount to buy a pic or vid, avoid that too. Those are the girls that are making money off of OF & therefore can negotiate from a position of strength, I. E. , give you GPS numbers because they don't "need" you. OTOH, the free or very low cost ones need the money. Those will take the $200-300 ppm.[/QUOTE]I see. Well that makes sense. Any reconnaissance that can be obtained is of course valuable in this game. I'm anti pro for obvious reasons stated above but every case is unique.

Anybody have intel on her? I've seen her pics on multiple sites with different names.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b7595539-7a6a-463a-8019-ffc1ca19b45c[/URL]