Strip Club Reports

Actually, she's bi and she down for lots of fun. Very open minded. I even got her number the first time we VIP. She is lots of fun, tight and down if she digs you and she's not GPS. But she's making sine money from her OF and also dancing at one of the other Kim's club 21+, she likes to drink and party. If she digs you, you in for a great treat! At least that's my experience. Had similar experience with another dancer who some has described as air dancer, low mileage, GPS and eye candy. Maybe it has just been my lucky streak if so, it may come to and end soon LOL.

[QUOTE=Pusclicious;6445082]Cristella is a lesbo she ain't going to fuck you. That's why she rarely comes in and work cause she a dumbass. I vipd he once and even told her I'd tap that for 5 just to see if shed give it, but she didn't. And this was when she first started working at Synn. Her pussy looks good and that body and face is banging.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CuziletYou72;6445141]Actually, she's bi and she down for lots of fun. Very open minded. I even got her number the first time we VIP. She is lots of fun, tight and down if she digs you and she's not GPS. But she's making sine money from her OF and also dancing at one of the other Kim's club 21+, she likes to drink and party. If she digs you, you in for a great treat! At least that's my experience. Had similar experience with another dancer who some has described as air dancer, low mileage, GPS and eye candy. Maybe it has just been my lucky streak if so, it may come to and end soon LOL.[/QUOTE]Just more proof of the obvious, that these girls always vary their offers, and even their stories, to different guys. Some guys are ass hats and can only get The Crew types, who'll do any ogre who'll pay their price. And some girls are ass hats and won't debase themselves for someone they find too old, too sketch, too nerdy, etc. Sometimes it's just a matter of what side of the bed (or VIP bench) they got up on last. It's not like ordering off the value menu. You just need to try to sell the deal you're trying to make. Yeah, it's work and sometimes it doesn't pan out. You know you're failing when she says she's a lesbian or holds out for a $300 tip BJ, LOL. But even then maybe it's you, maybe it's her. Don't take it personally, just move on to another.

Yes, all is driven by how they feel that day, how much they are expecting to make that day, how they feel about you, sometimes even how drunk or high they are, and ultimately their mood and your vibe. Never expect, never assume that what works for others will work for you or vice versa. It's like rolling the dice most of the times!

[QUOTE=PelicanT99;6446312]Just more proof of the obvious, that these girls always vary their offers, and even their stories, to different guys. Some guys are ass hats and can only get The Crew types, who'll do any ogre who'll pay their price. And some girls are ass hats and won't debase themselves for someone they find too old, too sketch, too nerdy, etc. Sometimes it's just a matter of what side of the bed (or VIP bench) they got up on last. It's not like ordering off the value menu. You just need to try to sell the deal you're trying to make. Yeah, it's work and sometimes it doesn't pan out. You know you're failing when she says she's a lesbian or holds out for a $300 tip BJ, LOL. But even then maybe it's you, maybe it's her. Don't take it personally, just move on to another.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PelicanT99;6446312]Just more proof of the obvious, that these girls always vary their offers, and even their stories, to different guys. Some guys are ass hats and can only get The Crew types, who'll do any ogre who'll pay their price. And some girls are ass hats and won't debase themselves for someone they find too old, too sketch, too nerdy, etc. Sometimes it's just a matter of what side of the bed (or VIP bench) they got up on last. It's not like ordering off the value menu. You just need to try to sell the deal you're trying to make. Yeah, it's work and sometimes it doesn't pan out. You know you're failing when she says she's a lesbian or holds out for a $300 tip BJ, LOL. But even then maybe it's you, maybe it's her. Don't take it personally, just move on to another.[/QUOTE]Amen. That said, do you think it's worth circling back to the same girl the next time you visit (or a few weeks later if you go often)? I'm generally inclined to write a girl off if she gives me a stupid high quote and won't budge but maybe the next time she'll need the money more. Anyone had good luck getting better deals later after this kind of "rejection".

[QUOTE=PelicanT99;6446312]And some girls are ass hats and won't debase themselves for someone they find too old, too sketch, too nerdy, etc. Sometimes it's just a matter of what side of the bed (or VIP bench) they got up on last.[/QUOTE]A lot of time they can't tell how you really look until later, because of how dark it is in Spearmint Rhino. It always hurts a little when we get to VIP and the girl turns the lights down even more. I joke, there's other reasons for that too on top of this.

On the other hand, I ghosted Candy for 6 months for trying to rip me off, then she approached me from behind for the 4 for 2 deal and we went. She pulled my dick out and played with it without even asking for a tip. I tipped her anyways. After we walked out to pay for the dance, she finally recognized me again.

Back when I was young and handsome I had two strippers ask me out, we were even making out during dances. Now that I'm neither, some girls cope by avoiding all eye contact. Cool, whatever works I have no objection.

[QUOTE=CaseyX;6447115]Amen. That said, do you think it's worth circling back to the same girl the next time you visit (or a few weeks later if you go often)? I'm generally inclined to write a girl off if she gives me a stupid high quote and won't budge but maybe the next time she'll need the money more. Anyone had good luck getting better deals later after this kind of "rejection".[/QUOTE]I'll try again another day if the issue was just a too-high quote. These girls have every right to ask any price they want, just as I have the right to say no in reply. I always try to keep convo light & respectful, hoping for better luck another day. But if they start off with a shitty attitude, or go there just because I said no to their bid, I'll hold it against them in future interactions. (Fortunately my "stripper memory" is near-photographic.) Sometimes they remember & avoid me, more often they just try again with their standard pitch and I proceed more cautiously & more to the point, since "once bitten". I'd also wait for such a girl to approach me, rather than hunt her down or initiate.

I've had a few totally change their tune and turn into good experiences; but usually it results in just yet another unsuccessful sales call. But that's just the cost of being a strip club monger, a lot of time & energy to get something good for a fair price LOL.

[QUOTE=CaseyX;6447115]Amen. That said, do you think it's worth circling back to the same girl the next time you visit (or a few weeks later if you go often)? I'm generally inclined to write a girl off if she gives me a stupid high quote and won't budge but maybe the next time she'll need the money more. Anyone had good luck getting better deals later after this kind of "rejection".[/QUOTE]Had a girl who quoted me $300 once quote me $100 for the same a couple weeks later, so it's def possible.

Do some of you have luck negotiating tips before going VIP? I've always just found a girl I like for the night and take her VIP. Than usually once in, she will say her tip menu prices. Generally I never got an offer less than $400, so you guys getting lower are doing something right LOL. I never bothered negotiating as I felt every girl who does VIP has a tip menu. Not complaining, I know your millage may vary a lot on the girls mood and whatever she ultimately has the decision.

If you dress really clean, clean cut / shave, do they assume you are loaded? Or if you look more youthful and hip etc.

I usually bring 1 k cash on me for the night. But sometimes I do regret if I spend it all the next morning. Also, too much alcohol can be very bad, making the night go way too fast, or just make bad discissions on where my dollars go.

I once had 2 Columbian girls in VIP at the same time at Dejavu Hollywood years back (probably around 2017-2018 or so. Feels like this was way before any girl had the idea to offer a tip menu, so it was just a fixed rate of paying 2 vips).

[QUOTE=KevlarProof;6448898]Do some of you have luck negotiating tips before going VIP? I've always just found a girl I like for the night and take her VIP. Than usually once in, she will say her tip menu prices. Generally I never got an offer less than $400, so you guys getting lower are doing something right LOL. I never bothered negotiating as I felt every girl who does VIP has a tip menu. Not complaining, I know your millage may vary a lot on the girls mood and whatever she ultimately has the decision.

If you dress really clean, clean cut / shave, do they assume you are loaded? Or if you look more youthful and hip etc.

I usually bring 1 k cash on me for the night. But sometimes I do regret if I spend it all the next morning. Also, too much alcohol can be very bad, making the night go way too fast, or just make bad discissions on where my dollars go...[/QUOTE]Negotiating before VIP is critical to getting the best price. Once you've committed to spending the VIP cost, and in the room draining blood from your brain to your cock, you are simply less likely to say no to high tip requests. Every stripper knows this. It's throwing good money after bad, but "in for a penny in for a pound" takes over. If you manage to say "too much," you either waste limited VIP time negotiating, or at worst she says fuck it & gives you an air dance or lame dance, or even just glares at you with shitty attitude. I know because it happened to me a lot in my first couple years.

Nowadays I negotiate on the floor, before VIP, 95% of the time. Yeah it can be awkward. But these girls are pros and get asked multiple times a day. It's not rude or embarrassing. They're not cops, so you don't have to worry about solicitation (one of the joys of strip clubs). Don't fall for "it's rude" or "embarrassing" you're not talking to your mom LOL. Have some convo to make them comfortable & express your interest, then ask. I float a low bid first, then negotiate. At worst they say I'm not that kind of girl (& I then say OK thanks but you're not what I'm looking for). It's just a business transaction not a reflection on your self-worth, so relax. Ask the next girl.

But it's your money, if you want to spend more for convenience or to avoid embarrassment or whatever, that's your choice. 5% of the time I'm weak, or circumstances make me take the risk. But if you choose to spend, you live with the choice and regretting it later is rightfully only on you (me).

[QUOTE=KevlarProof;6448898]Do some of you have luck negotiating tips before going VIP? I've always just found a girl I like for the night and take her VIP. Than usually once in, she will say her tip menu prices. Generally I never got an offer less than $400, so you guys getting lower are doing something right LOL. I never bothered negotiating as I felt every girl who does VIP has a tip menu. Not complaining, I know your millage may vary a lot on the girls mood and whatever she ultimately has the decision.

If you dress really clean, clean cut / shave, do they assume you are loaded? Or if you look more youthful and hip etc.

I usually bring 1 k cash on me for the night. But sometimes I do regret if I spend it all the next morning. Also, too much alcohol can be very bad, making the night go way too fast, or just make bad discissions on where my dollars go..[/QUOTE]"You don't get what you deserve in life, you get what you negotiate. " If you negotiate zero, that's exactly the value you'll get, zero. I'd rather negotiate in the front just so I know what I'm getting into. Once you're in the back you're committed and she has the leverage. Don't be talking about the actual acts, more like "how fun is it in the back? I only brought $xxx how much fun would that get me? Etc. " Start low and see what she says. Work your way up. Have fun with it "I only brought $17 what's that get me?" LOL. Maybe practice on girls you're not attracted until you get decent.

You already touched on it but non-verbal negotiating involves looking attractive. Think about it, if you were a sex worker and you had a female client, wouldn't you charge the hell out of a fat, old, smelly, unattractive woman VS. A young, in-shape, yummy-smelling attractive woman? Of course because the experience is going to suck. But if she was attractive, hell you'd do it for free. I'm not saying you're unattractive I don't know you but just something to think about.

You do make a good point though. How to walk the fine line of dressing too good to where you look loaded and dressing nice. Being clean shaven, showered, smelling good keep your breath fresh and minty (seriously, floss and scrape your tongue) shouldn't even be a question, just do it. Girls complain all the time about clients' being smelly, at least make the experience more palatable for them.

I personally would dress how their ex-BFs that cheated on them would dress, LOL. Nice and clean sneakers, nice jeans, a nice hoodie or zip up, nice baseball cap. This is assuming you're 50's and below. Above 50's ditch the hoodie, zip up and baseball cap, replace with nice jacket and style your hair. Go to a woman's salon and tell them you want to look like a CEO or something LOL.

The whole point is to have fun. If you want to drop $1 k and get drunk and that's your fun then do it. My fun is having the girl really get into it while at the same time getting it for free or a deep discount LOL.

[QUOTE=KevlarProof;6448898]Do some of you have luck negotiating tips before going VIP? I've always just found a girl I like for the night and take her VIP. Than usually once in, she will say her tip menu prices. Generally I never got an offer less than $400, so you guys getting lower are doing something right LOL. I never bothered negotiating as I felt every girl who does VIP has a tip menu. Not complaining, I know your millage may vary a lot on the girls mood and whatever she ultimately has the decision.
[/QUOTE]I'm surprised that you've never gotten an offer of less than $400. Maybe you're only going on busy evenings where it's more of a seller's market. If you're fine with paying that much then more power to you but otherwise I think you're making a mistake by not negotiating. Most dancers will open with a number that's higher than what they're willing to take. That's just basic negotiating strategy. I've had girls who insisted on a price twice what I was willing to pay come down to my number within a minute or two because she wants your money. You just have to be willing to walk away or to just get a non-extras dance if you're already in the VIP.

It's always better to have these discussions on the floor before you're already committed to the price of the room. I'll admit that I frequently haven't followed this rule in CoI, maybe because a few girls have balked at discussing extras in advance and maybe because I haven't really gotten burned by this (though I have had a few frustrating vanilla VIPs).

Good point. I may just take a long due break, and return to some of my favs to reset the price (in case they are expecting the same price from me every time).

[QUOTE=CaseyX;6449579]I'm surprised that you've never gotten an offer of less than $400. Maybe you're only going on busy evenings where it's more of a seller's market. If you're fine with paying that much then more power to you but otherwise I think you're making a mistake by not negotiating. Most dancers will open with a number that's higher than what they're willing to take. That's just basic negotiating strategy. I've had girls who insisted on a price twice what I was willing to pay come down to my number within a minute or two because she wants your money. You just have to be willing to walk away or to just get a non-extras dance if you're already in the VIP.

It's always better to have these discussions on the floor before you're already committed to the price of the room. I'll admit that I frequently haven't followed this rule in CoI, maybe because a few girls have balked at discussing extras in advance and maybe because I haven't really gotten burned by this (though I have had a few frustrating vanilla VIPs).[/QUOTE]

Negotiating on the floor is the only way to go. You might buy a regular dance just to have that conversation. Also the cash comes after the deed. You might show it to them but careful not any more. Another strategy is to let them know up front you just want a hot warm up tease VIP and see how that goes. If the VIP gets heated, she might offer a sample or an introductory rate. This is best on a slow daytime. Also yes to at least dressing at least a little stylish. Doesn't mean you're loaded but says you're a bit cooler than the more degenerate slobs. Have learned these things the hard way.

[QUOTE=KevlarProof;6448898]Do some of you have luck negotiating tips before going VIP? I've always just found a girl I like for the night and take her VIP. Than usually once in, she will say her tip menu prices. Generally I never got an offer less than $400, so you guys getting lower are doing something right LOL. I never bothered negotiating as I felt every girl who does VIP has a tip menu. Not complaining, I know your millage may vary a lot on the girls mood and whatever she ultimately has the decision.

If you dress really clean, clean cut / shave, do they assume you are loaded? Or if you look more youthful and hip etc.

I usually bring 1 k cash on me for the night. But sometimes I do regret if I spend it all the next morning. Also, too much alcohol can be very bad, making the night go way too fast, or just make bad discissions on where my dollars go.

I once had 2 Columbian girls in VIP at the same time at Dejavu Hollywood years back (probably around 2017-2018 or so. Feels like this was way before any girl had the idea to offer a tip menu, so it was just a fixed rate of paying 2 vips).[/QUOTE]

Had a great time with Paris last Saturday night. She returned from a year long Hiatus. She's a pretty face light skin African with slim body and long black hair. She's thinner than before because she lost weight from fasting during Ramadan. She was a crowd favorite when she was on stage. Men tipped her tons of money that amounted to a basket full of dollar bills. I took her to VIP and picked up where we left off from last summer then tipped her accordingly.

Nyoko was also there that night. She wasn't too busy and she walked around the floor selling dances. She came by to talk and I bought a 3/40 dance from her. She's a pretty chill girl with good attitude. Her dance was good, allowed me to touch her huge breasts. She does a move where she faces her body away from me like doggy style and points her pussy at my face. She moved around a little too much. I wish she can just sit still and let me grope her. I asked her about VIP. She open with 7 for FS and held at 5. She might be popular but she cant demand that kind tips, at least from me. She wasn't even on my top 3 of the night.

Noticed she popped up on the SR roll call. Been trying to run into her but seems to rarely come in these days. Any recent reports on her? I am guessing if she comes in so infrequently she is mostly doing grandfathered in regulars or is hunting for one shot naive GPS targets.