[QUOTE=BigGamer;3065267]Is her name Tory?[/QUOTE]Didn't get her name cause you couldn't separate her from her dealer. She was petite with a wild mane of long blonde curly hair. Great look, but really out of it.
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[QUOTE=BigGamer;3065267]Is her name Tory?[/QUOTE]Didn't get her name cause you couldn't separate her from her dealer. She was petite with a wild mane of long blonde curly hair. Great look, but really out of it.
[QUOTE=iamioman;3065753]If you have no self control and let them reel you in for more and more dances, then yes that's a pretty disastrous idea, but I was talking about getting ONE lapdance to see what the dancer is like. Some dancers have the barside-manner down to perfection so they'll give you eye-contact and engage in enough touching and talk sexy to make you think everything is going to be amazing in a private and then give lousy lapdances, and some give great lapdances and mediocre CR dances (or just extended lapdances) - so getting a single lapdance isn't a guarantee you'll get a good private room dance but if you aren't 100% positive of the vibe you are getting, taking a dancer for a 'test run' at least weeds out the dancers who are just talking the talk but can't walk the walk. But if you say "one dance" upfront, and say "no" when they ask if you want another, how is the dancer "in control"? She's not.[/QUOTE]I still rarely do an LD. You can still get scammed even with just ONE dance. Very simply put they do a half or 3/4 song instead of a full song. Even if a scammer dancer tells you she is going to wait till the beginning of the next song she can cut you short before the song finishes and stop and say I hoped you enjoyed it before the song is over and it is an easy scam since the DJ always blends the songs together and they just keep coming continuously all night with non stop intervals. An example of a real true NON scamming dancer is a dancer who really gets into it and goes past one song and doesn't stop and ask you for more money. And yes some actually will give you a song and a half or 2 songs for the price of one and I am not talking the 2 for dances at CF. I actually had to stop a dancer on the fifth song one night years ago that was a little tipsy and I had told her only 2 songs for 40 bucks and that's all I was spending. She said OMG I am sorry I was just having fun getting into it. But better yet the best LD I ever had in my life was at CF from a retired dancer called Jade. It was a slow week night upstairs and we went way down to the end booth and she started rubbing my cock then proceeded to unzip my zipper pulled it out and started a BBBJ. When someone came by she stopped and sat on it doing a friction dance so they couldn't see it was exposed. They left and she would continue on till completion and made the evidence vanish, LOL. She had me hooked after that and very reasonable but gave me everything at her place OTC for years after that. Also Rafaella who is still at CF today, I remember years ago at Cheater's was the only girl I ever met who could do an LD in Godiva, sit on you reverse cowgirl, slip a condom on you with her hands behind her back and put it in her pussy and fuck you while customers were coming in to get an LD and they had no clue she had my cock in her pussy riding me in reverse cowgirl with her skirt over the whole deal making it look like nothing but a friction dance in reverse cowgirl! You can still get a nice BBBJ from her at CF to this day for cheap money however she still will not do CIM and never did even at Cheaters. I don't know if she can still pull off a CFS reverse cowgirl LD anymore however since that was years ago in the Cheaters crazy era!
[QUOTE=CadillaCock;3066104]I still rarely do an LD. You can still get scammed even with just ONE dance. Very simply put they do a half or 3/4 song instead of a full song. Even if a scammer dancer tells you she is going to wait till the beginning of the next song she can cut you short before the song finishes and stop and say I hoped you enjoyed it before the song is over and it is an easy scam since the DJ always blends the songs together and they just keep coming continuously all night with non stop intervals. An example of a real true NON scamming dancer is a dancer who really gets into it and goes past one song and doesn't stop and ask you for more money. And yes some actually will give you a song and a half or 2 songs for the price of one and I am not talking the 2 for dances at CF. I actually had to stop a dancer on the fifth song one night years ago that was a little tipsy and I had told her only 2 songs for 40 bucks and that's all I was spending. She said OMG I am sorry I was just having fun getting into it. But better yet the best LD I ever had in my life was at CF from a retired dancer called Jade. It was a slow week night upstairs and we went way down to the end booth and she started rubbing my cock then proceeded to unzip my zipper pulled it out and started a BBBJ. When someone came by she stopped and sat on it doing a friction dance so they couldn't see it was exposed. They left and she would continue on till completion and made the evidence vanish, LOL. She had me hooked after that and very reasonable but gave me everything at her place OTC for years after that. Also Rafaella who is still at CF today, I remember years ago at Cheater's was the only girl I ever met who could do an LD in Godiva, sit on you reverse cowgirl, slip a condom on you with her hands behind her back and put it in her pussy and fuck you while customers were coming in to get an LD and they had no clue she had my cock in her pussy riding me in reverse cowgirl with her skirt over the whole deal making it look like nothing but a friction dance in reverse cowgirl! You can still get a nice BBBJ from her at CF to this day for cheap money however she still will not do CIM and never did even at Cheaters. I don't know if she can still pull off a CFS reverse cowgirl LD anymore however since that was years ago in the Cheaters crazy era![/QUOTE]They bash Rafaella all the time on various boards. She clearly provides a professional service. Those morons should get a life!
[QUOTE=XBingoX;3066095]I'm with you on that strategy. If you're trying to do things on the cheap, the club is more than likely the wrong way to do it. There are plenty of guys in there willing to spend and if you're not one of them you're not going to get very far. Look at it like an investment. I use the lap dance as a confirmation to make sure we vibe and it has saved me hundreds. You could look at it like I've lost hundreds too but I'd prefer to pay for a bad lap dance than pay for a bad CR.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, I have gotten VERY far with my own method of "auditioning". I have found that if they are not willing to make out in a dark corner and let me stick my fingers up their twat, they are then very unlikely to be down for what I want in the VIP booth anyway. Because as I said I am looking for good PSE or GFE sex or at a minimum a BBBJ. I'm not looking to play head games with them for cash or pay for lap dances. So if they are not ready to deliver honest sex or at least a BBBJ for a fair price after a little chat and a drink in a dark corner, then I just move on. And its not a matter of being "cheap". Its a matter of being frugal--I'm not Donald Trump, LOL! But the way I do it, I do not have to pay them in order to audition them. In addition, many girls are willing to sit in a dark corner and do more "naughty" shit (where nobody can see) than in an open, brightly-lit lap dance area. And if you get a reputation for being a "booth guy" rather than a "lapdance guy", then they know you are serious when you "audition" them in that dark corner, and they behave accordingly--the word about different customers' individual preferences gets around quickly in any club after you return a few times, and after they know that you WILL indeed take them in the booth for a fair price if they pass muster in that dark corner! Many in fact already have their hands down your pants and will begin to get to know your equipment quite well before any financial transactions even occur. On a couple of occasions at Cheaters on a slow day when there was no one else in Godiva, I had some of them spread their talented pussies and let me eat them out right on stage as part of the "audition"! In return for a couple of portraits of George Washington. (I'm not sure if you can get away with that these days, though--in the USA I only was able to do that at Cheaters, even though its fairly standard fare in clubs Mexico!) One of the things I audition them for, BTW, is the hygeine level of their twats! I do not want to waste time and money on a lapdance when I can just get them in a dark corner, insert a finger, and perform the smell test, LOL!
I fully respect other guys' methods, though, and I am very willing to listen and learn despite the fact that I may indeed be perceived as an old fart set in my ways. So please keep those suggestions cumming! But insofar as auditioning them prior to getting laid in stripclubs, I have found that, after getting sex and BBBJs from dozens of strippers in VIP booths, my own preferred "dark corner" method has surely worked very, very well for me!
[QUOTE=iamioman;3065753]If you have no self control and let them reel you in for more and more dances, then yes that's a pretty disastrous idea, but I was talking about getting ONE lapdance to see what the dancer is like. Some dancers have the barside-manner down to perfection so they'll give you eye-contact and engage in enough touching and talk sexy to make you think everything is going to be amazing in a private and then give lousy lapdances, and some give great lapdances and mediocre CR dances (or just extended lapdances) - so getting a single lapdance isn't a guarantee you'll get a good private room dance but if you aren't 100% positive of the vibe you are getting, taking a dancer for a 'test run' at least weeds out the dancers who are just talking the talk but can't walk the walk. But if you say "one dance" upfront, and say "no" when they ask if you want another, how is the dancer "in control"? She's not.[/QUOTE]Well, in the old, old days, when I used to try to audition their services with a lapdance, there were too many times when the lapdance they delivered indeed suggested that all systems would be "a go" in the booth, but they nevertheless turned out to be up-selling duds once they got behind those closed booth doors. So a good lapdance surely does not ensure that they will fuck or suck nicely in the booth without drama. At least that's been my experience.
Also, if you want to see how they behave in lapdances, in most of the clubs I've been in you can easily observe their behavior with others in some of the lap dance areas. In fact there are often several girls grinding on customers simultaneously, and its always a good relative comparison, but if you can SEE them, then they also know it, and the public lapdance may not be at all reflective of their private booth potential! On the other hand, getting them into a dark corner and sampling some foreplay after buying them a drink, can often allow them to audition more "discretely", that is to say, without others' observing, and are thus more likely to provide a better menu on the "audition", since many for a variety of reasons will refuse to get very frisky in public--reasons such as nosey bouncers, other dancers, some of their "regular" clients, etc, who they would rather not put on a public display for. Its easier, I've found, to make out with them discretely in a dark, isolated corner (if there is one!) and see how frisky they will REALLY get when no one else is watching! Many girls who will not DFK publically when they can be seen during a lapdance, I've found are perfectly willing to shove their tongue down your throat if you are in a dark corner where no one can see!
Any more information on China at Foxy. What days and times is she there?
[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;3060043]I've been spending a LOT of time at the Foxy over the last month or so and for the most part have thoroughly enjoyed it. And it's not all during Leggs & Eggs either. A variety of days and times so I get to try out a lot of different girls. IMHO the best and easiest time to get extras is either during Leggs & Eggs or an early afternoon. At night too many people, too much competition etc.
I still don't get why some of the hottest dancers in there just don't even try to make some money though. They will just hang out with one dude and some don't even go up on stage. As for being on stage, I like to start talking to them there, feel them out a bit, tuck some $1's and have them visit me for a drink etc. If that goes well I'll go for a dance or two and if I like that will go for some extra's.
I also don't get why it seems to be a trend now for guys to just lay the $1 on the stage for her and not actually tuck it in or give it to her. That just seems like such a waste to me. I want her to dance in front of me, get a close up look etc. Feel her out, see if she's bitchy etc. Some of the girls just dance around the middle by the pole or around their regular that came to the stage and then collect the money left by others that she didn't even dance for.
I think I'm going to start posting more here on which girls just give a plain boring lapdance (ie hands off) and which at least let you enjoy some nice full contact even if you know that they do not do any extra's at all. Might save some of us a few $$ that way. Might even post which girls are pretty liberal while giving them too. Doubt I'll be posting much of the extra's here to avoid causing them any trouble.
Mariya, a mid 20's brunette from Russia. About 5'7" or so and about 130 lbs. Cute face, nice all natural body (rare nowadays) and a nice girl BUT she is pretty much hands off during the lapdance. She did ask me right away if we were going to have at least 2 dances and if so they'd be nude instead of topless. (That rule about a 2 minimum dance for nude I guess.) She does let you grab her ass but when I went to touch her tits she literally shrieked and said no. I'm talking just a caress too, not mauling her and not sucking on her nip (which most girls allow and some almost insist on). I don't ever expect to take her for a lapdance again as it's just not worth it at all.
Holly, a 29 yo (almost 30) blond from Worcester. Again, another nice girl and a smart girl too. Yet another dancing for tuition etc. She is also all natural and has no problem with you caressing her butt or tits etc as long as you're gentle and not mauling her. That her limit though, nothing more than that. Doubt i'll get any more from her either. Just too many more that give more bang for your buck.
Whenever I do see Venice (late 20's all natural blond with a nice ass) I will always get a couple of dances at least eventhough I know that she doesn't do extra's just because during her dances she will tell you that she only has two rules (and they're obvious ones) so she leaves pretty much everything open for a fun dance as long as you're nice. She's fun and sexy but again no extra's.
China is a young Asian spinner with an all natural body too. Her hair reaches down to her ass if you like that. Very nice ass, perky tits with big nips and she will literally have you undress her when she starts dancing which is cool. She will take your hands and put them on her ass and tits letting you know she expects you to play. This girl is very sexy and erotic but she will try to get you to stay back there forever getting dances LOL. SHE is also pretty hands on with you so you better not be shy either since she even kisses and licks :) because she sure as hell isn't I will get dances from her any and every time I see her so that should say something.
I'll add more at another time, hope it might save some guys either some time or money.
**I will note that some guys will hang out there for HOURS at the bar and never even go to the stage let alone get a lapdance. Others will sit down and monopolize a girl or two which is up to the girl. But why waste hours just talking etc and maybe having a drink or two. Most of these guys again don't go to the stage or get dances either. Some spend as much on drinks and massages as most do on dances. Lastly, If you want to negotiate with a girl try taking a "smoke break" :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CadillaCock;3066104]I still rarely do an LD. You can still get scammed even with just ONE dance. Very simply put they do a half or 3/4 song instead of a full song. ..[/QUOTE]Which is EXACTLY why I said it's a good idea to 'audition' a dancer with a regular LD before risking the cost of a Champagne Room dance. IF a dancer scams you on a $25/30 dance then obviously that's a not a dancer you want to pay for a Champagne Room dance with. That's the point of an 'audition' - nothing can completely eliminate the possibility of getting scammed, but an audition of one kind or another can reduce the odds you end up taking a scammer into a Champagne Room.
[QUOTE=Lips1963;3067577]...So a good lapdance surely does not ensure that they will fuck or suck nicely in the booth without drama. At least that's been my experience.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I just said a lapdance will help you decide. If a dancer tries to cheat you or cut your dance short during a regular lapdance that's not someone you want to take private. So that helps rule out SOME dancers. And if a dancer can't give a decent lapdance, the odds. At least in my experience. That they are going to excel at private dances is low. Always exceptions but its a general rule that's usually proved to be true in my experienca.
[QUOTE=Lips1963;3067577]Also, if you want to see how they behave in lapdances, in most of the clubs I've been in you can easily observe their behavior with others in some of the lap dance areas. [/QUOTE]Not sure what clubs you are frequenting, but in RI, some clubs you can, some you can't. WZ you can (on the rare ocassions anyone gets a regular LD), Desire there is 0% chance to do that. In Foxy the LDs are in a separate room maze so unless you are getting a dance yourself you can't see anyone else getting a dance. In Fantasies it depends on where you sit as some booths are more visible to customers in the club than others. Mickey's LDs are behind an opaque curtain so no viewing going on there. Don't remember the layout in CL, but unless their LDs are out in the open the only club I know where you can view other people's LDs is Fantasies, which varies by booth and where you are in the club.
I agree about the dark corner auditioning as well. A friend said he had a dancer unzip and reach into his pants when theyt were sitting in a quiet dark corner of a club last week. That seemed a pretty good indicator she was game for extra activities.
[QUOTE=iamioman;3070687]Which is EXACTLY why I said it's a good idea to 'audition' a dancer with a regular LD before risking the cost of a Champagne Room dance. IF a dancer scams you on a $25/30 dance then obviously that's a not a dancer you want to pay for a Champagne Room dance with. That's the point of an 'audition' - nothing can completely eliminate the possibility of getting scammed, but an audition of one kind or another can reduce the odds you end up taking a scammer into a Champagne Room.[/QUOTE]I agree, and that is my typical approach. If she is a ripoff or cold in the lap dance, I know not to waste time with a CR because it's probably a ripoff. If the dance is good, well your $25 is well spent. One good test at CD is to take her for a $25 topless dance and see if she complains about not going for the more expensive nude one or says you need to pay extra to touch the titties. If she does, then that is the last dance I will ever go for with that stripper!
The only exceptions I will make are:
1. when there is someone who I have been to the CR before with and I know she will provide what I am looking for.
2. When someone has been reviewed on this board and I know they will deliver based on the review.
Bambi. WZ. Very forward pretty AA dancer. Spinner type body but not anorexically thn. Everything's covered, didn't ask about FS but wasn't disappointed. Works nights.
Jessica. WZ. Pretty. Slightly detached AA dancer. Total waste of time and money. Scammer of all scammers. AVOID. Report from a friend who met her a couple of weeks ago said something was off about her like she wasn't quite paying attention or she was hearing voices or something. Said he should have known when she asked for a drink, then after agreeing to a CR she asked for another drink, asked him to tip bartender who gave them the room ticket, tip the bouncer who stamps your hand for the godiva room cover, then tip the guy who looks at the stamp on your hand. Said she was hot enough and she talked a good enough game that he went through with the CR ayways but somehow the "I want to fuck you slowly" and "I want you to come on my face and tits" comments made before the dance magically turned into a mediocre hand job and him comming all over his pants when they were in the booth. Then when she asked for a $60 tip and he refused she asked for $40 then $20 he refused all tips she got offended and just walked away and ignored him. No goodbye, no nice-to-meet-you, no "thanks for spending $150 for a lousy handjob" no nothing. Works nights.
Britta. FL. Super skinny really hot young blond waif. Nice personality, gives great LDs lots of contact super sexy. Met her at a Legs and Eggs a couple of weeks back.
Scarlet. FL. Normal sized dancer (not spinner), really pretty hot body, dark hair. Great sexy LDs. Hints (more likely teases) of more but clearly nothing more happening in LD room. Didn't have funds or interest in trying CR.
[QUOTE=iamioman;3070714]Jessica. WZ. Pretty. Slightly detached AA dancer. Total waste of time and money....[/QUOTE]That rip-off dancer's name might have been Vanessa, not Jessica. I'll have to confirm with my buddy.
I have not been to Wild Zebra in a long time as I was very disappointed going there due to poor talent and lack of services. It seems it might be worth a visit now? Or am I better off just doing to CD, where I know the talent will be up to par.
[QUOTE=TheGame05;3072020]I have not been to Wild Zebra in a long time as I was very disappointed going there due to poor talent and lack of services. It seems it might be worth a visit now? Or am I better off just doing to CD, where I know the talent will be up to par.[/QUOTE]I visited WZ the other day for the first time in a long time going back to when WZ opened. I felt disappointed as well. I now live much further away, and didn't plan to go back. But I had to be in town and decided to see if anything had changed. The rest of the club has opened up and I saw the renovated upstairs and peeked into the LG room. Obviously that renovation was badly needed, but it's not what makes a club. First of all, I spotted a dancer from the previous era, so knew something was up. I didn't really know her, but when she told me her name, I realized she was friends with my friends from the past. Then I saw some of the day girls dancing. They looked similar (meaning very attractive) to the new dancers when WZ began. But that's where the similarities ended. These dancers were much more into it, and I was told that continued into the private dances, but I did not partake. I would consider it in a future trip. Every time I looked to the stage, I was impressed with the dancers. There might even have been a majority of the dancers who I liked, unlike me the club that was previously there where that percentage was maybe even in single digits. I suggest you give WZ a new try.
Saw a couple of beautiful women recently at FL, but left with blue balls. First saw aptly named Isabella. Very sensual, tasteful and elegant a la Isabella Rossellini. Beautiful mouth and big supple tits to match. Did a couple of dances with her in which she teased me with only fleeting and episodic contact. Then saw the heroin-chic beautiful Maria, some variety of Eastern European I think. She was all sound and fury: wouldn't't even sit on my lap! Fuck that! Has any one of you fellow mongers seen Isabella? Is there more available? If you could PM me with any help, I d be grateful.
Any info on kitty from fantasies. LD, booth, etc?