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[QUOTE=Gilligan46;2528363]Yes. That is her. Not really sure if she is the one that took down pearl. She is a fun gal.[/QUOTE]Didn't you say back in post #3997 that sage pulled a phoebe and that's why pearl is no longer around?
So is she or is she not the reason pearl fell apart?
It's good to see Brynn went indie. I tried multiple times to see her when she was with Pearl. But she was always booked.
[QUOTE=TucsonTaoist;2474133]I saw this new place while in the Williams Center strip mall (the one at Craycroft with Olive Garden). It's #230. I TTOFT and got a 30 minute "back" massage as opposed to a foot massage. It was pretty decent. The girls are all pretty attractive for Tucson. The massage was legit, but I know she saw my boner extending between my legs and even touched it once (by accident I think).
The super cute woman running the place said very flirtatiously as I left, "Next time get one hour, you like better. " Now whether that was some sort of promise I don't know, but I might go back and see. I'd like to think I might get the front side done if I opt for the hour.[/QUOTE]I dreamt returned today as I was too lazy to drive out to Tuina or Mei. I opted for the 60 minute massage by the same woman (Anna) I had the first time. This time I left no doubt as to what I wanted. Eventually she said, "I'll wait outside five minutes. " When I asked for an explanation, she said that if I was going to touch myself, she couldn't be present. I asked if she could help me and she said no. She was very nice about it. She returned before I was finished and she was very cool about it, but I don't think there'll be much other fun had there though the girls are super cute!
[QUOTE=AZWildcat;2529386]Didn't you say back in post #3997 that sage pulled a phoebe and that's why pearl is no longer around?
So is she or is she not the reason pearl fell apart?
It's good to see Brynn went indie. I tried multiple times to see her when she was with Pearl. But she was always booked.[/QUOTE]I don't know who phoebe is but I got more information and I feel like I didn't have the whole story possibly. I think I mentioned there are always two sides to the story in another post. Regardless those gals were all fun and awesome in their own ways. I'm not going to speculate more. I'm just happy that the providers I like are still around. We all jump to conclusions and this time I may have been wrong and admit it.
[QUOTE=BlissfulBrynn;2528263]Screening is par for the course in most cities and around the world. I understand that this new information is scary to many people, but you must also understand why it is necessary from a provider standpoint. We can re-hash this until the cows come home or understand that there is risk regardless of the path we choose to take. It's all about risk management and each person will make their own choice.
Now is the time to work together, not create division. If you want to salvage what's left of our community here in Tucson then we all need to do what's necessary to stay safe. I'm speaking from many years of experience working in other areas. Everyone acts like this is the first time something like this has ever happened, anywhere in the history of forever. It's not. We all pick up the pieces and move on the best we can. Either we support each other or we don't. What side will you choose? Either way, my ultimate desire is for everyone to be safe and treat each other with mutual respect. Enough with the small town mind set. We can all find a happy medium here.[/QUOTE]I'm on the side of everyone staying safe. Mutual respect is the key. If we respect a Providers desire to stay safe they will stay around longer and be in a much better position to keep us safe, too. I have no issues with proper screening if it keeps us both happy and further away from Uncle.
Dame, it sucks that Pear is gone. She had a nice set up. Never had to worrie she was always there when I needed her location. My favorite girl was Violet, she was the ultimate massage girl. Too bad she did not go Indy because I would go see her. I do not know about the other girls but after what happen with the sudden the closing of Pearls I am not too comfortsble with the new set up. I guess we will see as time goes by, I might try to see them who knows. In the mean time back to the AMPs they have never let me down and no drama there and don't have to worry about my information being kept or leeked out.
[QUOTE=Mbator6993;2528440]If you read the article, the Chief explicitly says the following: "The inclusion of information in this list is in no way indicative of involvement in criminal activity. ".
In other words, they have nothing but a list of numbers. If you read later articles on that website, the police department has already redacted the names and numbers given to KVOA tucson. They probably realized that releasing thousands of names with no evidence of criminal activity could open them up to potential lawsuits.
The only progress they made is that one of the numbers on Spanish's phone is Daisy's. Like Wow!
As 'Uncivil' says, let this be a lesson learned.[/QUOTE]I have a question, so by spanish is gone right? But I found this site may she is making a come back [URL]http://lovelydaisy.naughtynsexy.com/index-2.html[/URL].
[QUOTE=NavyNow;2531905]I have a question, so by spanish is gone right? But I found this site may she is making a come back [URL]http://lovelydaisy.naughtynsexy.com/index-2.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]That is old. Daisy and Mina parted ways long before the busts.
[QUOTE=LuckyAZ;2530055]I'm on the side of everyone staying safe. Mutual respect is the key. If we respect a Providers desire to stay safe they will stay around longer and be in a much better position to keep us safe, too. I have no issues with proper screening if it keeps us both happy and further away from Uncle.[/QUOTE]So we have two who I assume are providers, with one post each, arguing in favor of being screened, hoping we'll all forget about the BySpanish problem.
Perhaps the admin should have a look at these two posts.
Nice report / editorial about BySpanish (link below). I hope someone sues TPD and perhaps the media. I think TPD also took and spent grant money intended to fight sex traffic (a worthy cause), but of course there was no such thing in this case.
"A prostitution witch hunt in Tucson uncovered ample police corruption, yet it's the civil liberties of citizens suffering a blow. ".
[URL]http://reason.com/blog/2015/07/06/tucson-by-spanish-sting-phone-contacts[/URL]#. Vewv1's: rTjb.
[QUOTE=Uncivil;2533395]So we have two who I assume are providers, with one post each, arguing in favor of being screened, hoping we'll all forget about the BySpanish problem.
Perhaps the admin should have a look at these two posts.[/QUOTE]Not sure what the Admin will do since they are not breaking any rules, (at least none I am aware of).
As far as screening goes, I used to be just like you and would have argued until the cows came home that I would never allow a provider to screen me. That was until I started traveling heavily and learned that there are a lot of incredibly gorgeous providers out there that you will not find on BP and they all screen. I realized pretty quickly that I was drastically limiting myself by not seeing providers that screened clients, so I decided to look into the screening process. Once I realized that most of them only wanted valid references from well known providers I relaxed a little and started working on separating my real life from my hobby life. I joined other boards, actively participated and did a lot of research on how to get screened without actually giving any information that traces back to your real life.
The key for me was using a phone number that is not traced back to me, (I have several different numbers) and never using my real name, (I have a few different names). Once you see a few newbie friendly providers that are willing to provide you a reference, (using a fake number and fake name) you can work your way up to the providers that will only see clients they can verify and you have not given any real life information. It did take a little work at first, but now I have references all over the US willing to vouch for me and they have no information that will trace back to me.
That being said, providers like Alexia Dior that require your I'd and job information are automatically crossed off my list. Luckily though, she is the only provider I have ever run into that requires this. I will never provide any information to any provider that can be traced back to me and all the posts on any of the boards I am a member of can not be traced back to actual events since they are all lies that I have made up and or dreams and I have never actually broken any laws in my life.
I have never visited a Message Parlor, but as far as the whole Spanish and Daisy controversy goes, even if I would have been a regular or either, LE would only have my fake number and fake name and any notes would be tied to those and I would have no problems with them being releasing to the public.
ILH.
[QUOTE=Uncivil;2533395]So we have two who I assume are providers, with one post each, arguing in favor of being screened, hoping we'll all forget about the BySpanish problem.
Perhaps the admin should have a look at these two posts.[/QUOTE]I completely support a providers need to protect herself against LE and abusive predators that answer their Ads. The problem with screening is that most providers don't respect the information.
Provided by well intended, respectful, well intended clients! I know for a fact, that information that I have provided in confidence, out of respect for the providers I intend to support has been stored, saved.
And filed in order to use in the providers defense in the event of any future bust as leverage.
This has been in the "Mayflower Madame case" , the Heidi Fleiss case and obviously in the most recent cases in Tucson.
If the providers that require screening would be professional enough to assure and in fact follow through with the deletion of screening information, perhaps the gentleman that would like to frequent their services would feel more assured and inclined to provide screening info.
That way they would be more confident that the info wouldn't be use against them in the future!
[QUOTE=Checkers999;2533549]Nice report / editorial about BySpanish (link below). I hope someone sues TPD and perhaps the media. I think TPD also took and spent grant money intended to fight sex traffic (a worthy cause), but of course there was no such thing in this case.
"A prostitution witch hunt in Tucson uncovered ample police corruption, yet it's the civil liberties of citizens suffering a blow. ".
[URL]http://reason.com/blog/2015/07/06/tucson-by-spanish-sting-phone-contacts[/URL]#. Vewv1's: rTjb.[/QUOTE]I don't get how they release everyone else names to the public, but don't release fellow LEO. What TPD did was illegal that ground to sue.
If you peruse BP at all you know that Blissful Brynn is in fact a provider. And if I had ever been through her screening and seen her I would tell you that she's very good at what she does.
But, of course, I've never been to a massage parlor except in my dreams. In those dreams I imagined that Brynn was with Pearl and was intuitive, attentive, smart, and sexy as hell. The best of that group IMHO and I dreamt I tried them all. I can only dream that she'll continue to see me as an independent since I dreamt that I was smart enough to see that it was in my best interest to only see Providers that are smart enough to keep themselves safe. I like the intelligent ones. The ones who don't use fake pictures. The ones that can add and tell time. The ones who do just what they say they will on time and with no games drama or surprises. I'd rather spend a few minutes up front being screened than waste all those hours chasing flakes. Call me peculiar that way. Or, just call me Lucky. That's what the girls do.
What ILH has mapped out is exactly the path I took, and I couldn't agree more. You can get in some beautiful doors without putting your whole life on the line. Don't relinquish control of any information that could bite you later, just move on to the next ad and copiously research to make sure you are meeting someone that will leave you satisfied when you exit.
You don't have to search the internet for very long to find a list of "clients" that someone has given up in the hope of achieving leniency following a brush with LE. There are a lot of them out there and they make it into public purview because a lot of people disclose way too much information. Skip the relevance of whether you are guilty or innocent upon contacting an advertising professional. What happened at your meeting doesn't really matter. She is a categorized professional and when your real name, DL number, and place of employment get leaked to the press, you will have the opportunity to reap the experience of being guilty and subsequently hanged without a trial. Or, you could follow ILH's path. Got a past friend that has gotten crosswise in the system? Feel horribly sorry over the loss of a friend whom you cherish, and then drop a $10 phone in the trash and move on. You paid for your experience once, no need to pay twice.
[QUOTE=ILuvHead;2533766]Not sure what the Admin will do since they are not breaking any rules, (at least none I am aware of).
As far as screening goes, I used to be just like you and would have argued until the cows came home that I would never allow a provider to screen me. That was until I started traveling heavily and learned that there are a lot of incredibly gorgeous providers out there that you will not find on BP and they all screen. I realized pretty quickly that I was drastically limiting myself by not seeing providers that screened clients, so I decided to look into the screening process. Once I realized that most of them only wanted valid references from well known providers I relaxed a little and started working on separating my real life from my hobby life. I joined other boards, actively participated and did a lot of research on how to get screened without actually giving any information that traces back to your real life.
The key for me was using a phone number that is not traced back to me, (I have several different numbers) and never using my real name, (I have a few different names). Once you see a few newbie friendly providers that are willing to provide you a reference, (using a fake number and fake name) you can work your way up to the providers that will only see clients they can verify and you have not given any real life information. It did take a little work at first, but now I have references all over the US willing to vouch for me and they have no information that will trace back to me.
That being said, providers like Alexia Dior that require your I'd and job information are automatically crossed off my list. Luckily though, she is the only provider I have ever run into that requires this. I will never provide any information to any provider that can be traced back to me and all the posts on any of the boards I am a member of can not be traced back to actual events since they are all lies that I have made up and or dreams and I have never actually broken any laws in my life.
I have never visited a Message Parlor, but as far as the whole Spanish and Daisy controversy goes, even if I would have been a regular or either, LE would only have my fake number and fake name and any notes would be tied to those and I would have no problems with them being releasing to the public.
ILH.[/QUOTE]
Has anyone visited the indys? From old pearls. I see them posting but no reviews. Are they legit or working under?