Massage Parlor Reports

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Just so you guys know, they are working on it.

[QUOTE=Frank69;1307011]Ok I am bored about reading about the up comming end of all te spas, that never seems to happen. So I ask this question. Are you a fan of bolt ons?[/QUOTE]I prefer some small perky natural ones. Seems like most places don't have those on the menu though.

[QUOTE=Viewsat123;1307175]I prefer some small perky natural ones. Seems like most places don't have those on the menu though.[/QUOTE]Viewsa, are you kidding, that is always on the menu at almost every spa around. Have you been getting large breasts? And have you asked for girls with smaller ones?

[QUOTE=Frank69;1307208]Viewsa, are you kidding, that is always on the menu at almost every spa around. Have you been getting large breasts? And have you asked for girls with smaller ones?[/QUOTE]Really? Sun is the main place I go to and it seems they all have bolt ons there. Went to Fantacy once and the girl had medium sized natural. Guess I need to start expanding my visits to other places.

Courthouse Square this Wednesday at 6PM. I am sure they will get TV coverage on this. Not Good. I will be looking for Mr. Spa Spokesman VampireWeekend to be in the middle of the activities defending his girls. Maybe he can get some TV time and sing us all a tune so we know it is him.

Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=Jeep56;1306877]The mob has been here for almost ever and they are the ones behind the Spas.[/QUOTE]It is my understanding this is not the case. Oh, sure, AMP's are organizations involved in (allegedly) criminal activities, and so are at least tautologically "organized crime," but I gather this is not at all the same thing; the same group most of us think of when we think of "the mob," your smarmy and faintly racist innuendo aside. I would also like you to think long and hard (oh, ehr!) about the difference between things that are crimes because they happen to be against some law or another, and things that are crimes because they violate a person's rights. A useful metric to make that determination is; you can easily imagine someone feeling wronged because they had something stolen from them, or their life was threatened. I have a much harder time believing anyone's ever said "stop sucking my dick, lady, or I'll call the cops!"

[QUOTE=Jeep56;1306877]Where do you think your money goes? Who would take the risk of being arrested other than folks who care less about the law.[/QUOTE]I assume money exchanged for services goes, like with any other business, for operating expenses, in the main; rent, upkeep, utilities, supplies, payroll, etc. As for your second question, it is not at all surprising to me that a person who is willing to risk getting arrested would take the risk of getting arrested, especially in a place, like Warren, where the risk isn't all that high, and in general I'm troubled by your idea that paying money for something that's perfectly legal to give away makes everyone involved the moral equivalent of Tony Soprano.

[QUOTE=Jeep56;1306877]It would be fairly easy to shut down the spas and survive any legal challenge by just following the other cities lead. Not sure for sure, but I could guess that someone is getting paid not to act.[/QUOTE]I saw a court decision squashing some earlier attempt to do this, in Niles in 1997, I believe. A judge rendered a verdict to the effect that, in the absence of any evidence the business was engaged in criminal activity, any punitive legislation was an unlawful restriction on trade and interference into the private realm. Indeed, a massage parlor, again absent evidence of criminal activity, is apparently not even considered a sexually-oriented business, so the city can't do much there they can't do to a restaurant or other business regulated by the health department, which is mostly making sure the license is up to date and the plumbing works.

[QUOTE=Jeep56;1306877]So maybe Trumbull county and the lawmakers in Warren are just too corrupt to do anything about the spas. So I could be wrong about the impending shutdowns. I guess I never expected the corruption to be so strong and that the will of most of the people of my city just does not mean very much any more.[/QUOTE]Here, you're just grandstanding; its not at all clear the actions by such groups as the MVOC represent "the will of most of the people," since I suspect "most of the people" aren't terribly worried about the spas either way and are mainly concerned with making a living and spending time with their friends and family, maybe watching a little TV, football now and then. Notice how few people actually bother to vote in any given election. Even if they are fairly well up in arms, so what?"The Majority" is just another mob, after all. People don't gain rights they don't possess as individuals by banding together as groups.

[QUOTE=Jeep56;1306877]But as always, TIME WILL TELL.[/QUOTE]Do you have any arguments that aren't begging the question, either in the circular fashion of saying "it's wrong because it's against the law, and its against the law because it's wrong!" or just presenting your unproven assumptions as axiomatic and then arguing from them as though they were self-evident; Who are "the people" and why is their "will" the deciding factor in public policy, other than just the obvious way of guns and numbers. And if its mainly guns and numbers, well. How is that not a mob again? Why does the mob get to bully honest businesses and their customers?

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[QUOTE=Book Man; 1307416]According to todays story they plan on passing them before the end of this year. You are going to be the spa spokesman at the rally Wednesday night I presume. Will Cesar Romero AKA. Deevcj fly up from Florida to help out?

Happy Mongering.[/QUOTE]From the story "she hopes to have the law passed before the end of the year.". This is very different then "they plan on passing them before the end of the year". Make the same bet with you Bookman that I offered Eugene56. The present draft, even if it passes, and it likely won't, will not have any serious effect on the spas in Warren.

And no, if I was going to fly somewhere to protest something it would be Oakland, not Warren.

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[QUOTE=Book Man; 1307410]Courthouse Square this Wednesday at 6PM. I am sure they will get TV coverage on this. Not Good. I will be looking for Mr. Spa Spokesman VampireWeekend to be in the middle of the activities defending his girls. Maybe he can get some TV time and sing us all a tune so we know it is him.

Happy Mongering.[/QUOTE]Seeing how nothing is going on that is illegal in these spas, I sure hope to see all you spamongers there with your signs protesting the protesters.

I'm sure that there will be hundreds with signs supporting the spas and I am also sure that everyone will want to be interviewed by TV27 or Newschannel 5 saying why the spas must stay. I'm sure family, wives and girlfriends will be happy to see you there telling everyone why the spas should be left alone. That your money is as good as anyone else's.

I'll bring my video camera and document for history the spa revolt. We'll see you all there.

Oh yeah. After the OWS. Occupy Warren Spas. There will be a meeting in any one of 10 spas in the Warren area. Bring your $40 + 100 tip for extras of course. If you have the buy 5 get one free don't forget that too. And bring your ads from the PD or ABJ for your 20% off. But stay as long as you can. Bring food and camping gear. Occupy Warren Spas (OWS) is a growing protest across the US. It's been on the news and is even going on in Europe. Come on guys! Support your local spa!

Has anybody been to a spa in a while? I am tired of the garbage.

[QUOTE=Frank69;1308602]Has anybody been to a spa in a while? I am tired of the garbage.[/QUOTE]Okay Frank, here is some of the run down for you. Sophia is at Suzi Kim which is a weird situation that borders on the side of comical with another Sophia working there and some other older person. There's Lucy and Mickey at Ocean. New girl is suppose be in today and I think Lucy will be going on vacation. I read a review of the girl Tina at MoonNight Spa. Fantacy Kim is on vacation and will be back next month. Gina is staying on so that she can see her first snowfall. Betty is coming back on the 2nd with some surprised twist involved. I think Sandy is still at VIP and that is not looking good. Hannah is still at Fuji but Bookman hasn't reported anyone new there. Cookie came in to cover for Nana because she was sick but might be gone if Nana recovered so the line at SUN should be Marie, Nana / Cookie, Bobbie, and Tina. Bobbie is slated to go on vacation sometime soon. 4S still sucks especially with Bebe at the helm and Tokyo is in limboland right now with their lineup. No one seems to be talking about them so I guess it's the same old same old. Now I'm leaving out Sunny Spa and Hong Kong Spa which usually has older staff and 'tudes. Gemini? Forget it. Nowhere on my radar but my radar has turned towards another direction. Did I miss anything else guys? Ipinni I expect you to chime in with your wittiness and charm. Oh wait, maybe the end is near with the holidays coming up and expectant first snowfall. There will be warm bodies at the rally this Wednesday. I guess the wolfie boys will laying on their hands for some action jackson.

[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1308519]OK, I'll admit it. I am those that you say. I am also everyone else. I am even you.

THINK ABOUT IT.[/QUOTE]I'm the real Jeep56. I'm also Bookman and Ippini.

Hold on to your balls stooges, your lives are about to get very interesting.

[QUOTE=VampireWeekend;1308767]Okay Frank, here is some of the run down for you. Sophia is at Suzi Kim which is a weird situation that borders on the side of comical with another Sophia working there and some other older person. There's Lucy and Mickey at Ocean. New girl is suppose be in today and I think Lucy will be going on vacation. I read a review of the girl Tina at MoonNight Spa. Fantacy Kim is on vacation and will be back next month. Gina is staying on so that she can see her first snowfall. Betty is coming back on the 2nd with some surprised twist involved. I think Sandy is still at VIP and that is not looking good. Hannah is still at Fuji but Bookman hasn't reported anyone new there. Cookie came in to cover for Nana because she was sick but might be gone if Nana recovered so the line at SUN should be Marie, Nana / Cookie, Bobbie, and Tina. Bobbie is slated to go on vacation sometime soon. 4S still sucks especially with Bebe at the helm and Tokyo is in limboland right now with their lineup. No one seems to be talking about them so I guess it's the same old same old. Now I'm leaving out Sunny Spa and Hong Kong Spa which usually has older staff and 'tudes. Gemini? Forget it. Nowhere on my radar but my radar has turned towards another direction. Did I miss anything else guys? Ipinni I expect you to chime in with your wittiness and charm. Oh wait, maybe the end is near with the holidays coming up and expectant first snowfall. There will be warm bodies at the rally this Wednesday. I guess the wolfie boys will laying on their hands for some action jackson.[/QUOTE]If there are 2 Sophia's working at Suzi Kim's then that might explain why I got an average to below average looks and performance when I stopped in about 3 weeks ago. I kept hearing of how great Sophia was but had a very average experience when I requested her. Maybe there are 2 there but at any other spa I have been to I have been told that if 1 girl picked a name that another girl had then one of them would have to change their name to avoid any confusion.

[QUOTE=Osuman08;1309131]If there are 2 Sophia's working at Suzi Kim's then that might explain why I got an average to below average looks and performance when I stopped in about 3 weeks ago. I kept hearing of how great Sophia was but had a very average experience when I requested her. Maybe there are 2 there but at any other spa I have been to I have been told that if 1 girl picked a name that another girl had then one of them would have to change their name to avoid any confusion.[/QUOTE]I hate to say it but I think this works in Suzi Kim's favor, if you know who the peacock is you will make sure you get the right one, but if you have never had her and only know her from posts on her you don't know what she looks like and may get the "other Sophia". Hmmmm I wonder what a 4 hand massage with the Sophia's would be like.

[QUOTE=Frank69;1309315]I hate to say it but I think this works in Suzi Kim's favor, if you know who the peacock is you will make sure you get the right one, but if you have never had her and only know her from posts on her you don't know what she looks like and may get the "other Sophia". Hmmmm I wonder what a 4 hand massage with the Sophia's would be like.[/QUOTE]Yep, if there's a popular girl with lots of requests, the mama will quickly figure out that many of the requests are from first timers and will bring out someone else. If it's an actual repeat customer who recognizes the imposter and calls her on it, she'll just say,"She busy" or "She no work here anymore", with a "You try new girl, she very nice". Sometimes, even a repeat customer will see whomever was brought out.