Trying this Sugar Baby thing.

I tried AM a couple of years ago and it was a total waste of time and money. It was constantly buying tokens to read messages and I got nothing out of it at all.

[QUOTE=JustMikey;5726705]AM and AFF produced nothing for me. SA is somewhat okay if you network and get some leads or have lots of time to pick the flyshit out of the pepper, but its basically over with as a reliable source of girl next door or neglected wife pussy.

I do wonder what will be the next SA. There will be women looking for discrete dick and women looking for dick attached to a wallet. Always has been and always will. But, where will they go next? What new site or app or social media conduit will they embrace? Hmmm.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, thanks for the tips guys, I don't think I'll waste my money on either site now. Like a previous poster said, I had some success on AM back around 2015. But the thought of having to buy tokens forever message sounds like a scam. I had a pretty good feeling they never recovered after that identity scandal.

Out of the blue, a SA girl I met 2 years ago just messaged me and wants to meet next week. She must have broke up with her BF. I plan to take good care of her next week 👍.

[QUOTE=JustMikey;5726705]AM and AFF produced nothing for me. SA is somewhat okay if you network and get some leads or have lots of time to pick the flyshit out of the pepper, but its basically over with as a reliable source of girl next door or neglected wife pussy.

I do wonder what will be the next SA. There will be women looking for discrete dick and women looking for dick attached to a wallet. Always has been and always will. But, where will they go next? What new site or app or social media conduit will they embrace? Hmmm.[/QUOTE]Yes AM is junk, as soon as my credits are used I'll bail.

AFF, is so so, at least you don't have to buy tokens.

I've had good luck on secret benefits. You have to buy tokens but if you are smart with them you can make them last. The verification videos are nice, amazing what girls are doing to edit pics but the video is the way they really look. I'm banging one girl from SB for free, CIP all she wanted was a "daddy" meaning she wants to be dominated in bed. Had a great girl in Hickory FS CIP, 24 grad student. She cost me but was worth it. A few others that came and went.

My whole take on SA is that now you just need to expand your search and you may have to travel 3-4 hours if you want decent variety.

Gone are the days of a fully stocked local pond. You need to go deep sea fishing more or lesss.

I plan on doing another road trip in the spring and will be trying my luck wherever I stop.

Apple pay scammer. Couldn't answer what part of Charlotte they were in, other than to reference my location.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b994d16b-3d77-43c5-98ba-7f8eae542101[/URL]

So I finally pay for a month of SA. After the initial blitz of what appeared to be scammers, I started messaging girls. After nearly 100 attempts over 4 locations (I travel for work), I'm currently having conversations with about 15 girls. A couple I can tell are pros which I'm ok with as long as they look like their photos. Others are very proud of themselves and rude about it, and all but one are terrible communicators. Like, don't even check their messages for days bad communicators. Which would be ok except we almost had something lined up that day until crickets. Finally, the one that was extremely promising, like may have been free as long as I was as tall as I claimed and looked like my pics. I discovered her real name and social media only to see that she looks nothing like her profile pics. It's the same girl, just so filter she's almost unrecognizable.

So of the GPS and pros left over I'm a little unsure of what to offer for ppm. So far I've offered a little less than the escort sites base on what they look like. If they look like higher end babes, I'll offer a range of 3 to 4. For example, there's one in south Charlotte that offered a short meet and greet to confirm but was 500 ppm. If she's the girl in the pics and doesn't rush, I'll do it at least once. But if they are STG level, I just say 150 to 250 depending on level of intimacy. Am I ok in this offer or should I like most other negotiations, let them tell me and work down from there.

[QUOTE=CaptCipher;5724149]I gave up on seeking after my ban wasnt worth the hassle and I couldn't pull anything worthwhile.[/QUOTE]I've been banned because my credit card company flagged transaction as fraud.

Tried a few times to open up new accounts and they shut me down the second I try to upgrade account.

I've tried different IP address, wifi locations, email accounts, different credit cards and pre paid cards.

Anyone know what am I missing here?

Maybe SA is doing me a favor by not taking my 109.00.

I have been finding these girl are 300 or nothing really. If they look in any way decent they aren't dealing for anything less then that most times. Of course you will find a Dimond in the rough once in a while. Goodluck.

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;5731588]So I finally pay for a month of SA. After the initial blitz of what appeared to be scammers, I started messaging girls. After nearly 100 attempts over 4 locations (I travel for work), I'm currently having conversations with about 15 girls. A couple I can tell are pros which I'm ok with as long as they look like their photos. Others are very proud of themselves and rude about it, and all but one are terrible communicators. Like, don't even check their messages for days bad communicators. Which would be ok except we almost had something lined up that day until crickets. Finally, the one that was extremely promising, like may have been free as long as I was as tall as I claimed and looked like my pics. I discovered her real name and social media only to see that she looks nothing like her profile pics. It's the same girl, just so filter she's almost unrecognizable.

So of the GPS and pros left over I'm a little unsure of what to offer for ppm. So far I've offered a little less than the escort sites base on what they look like. If they look like higher end babes, I'll offer a range of 3 to 4. For example, there's one in south Charlotte that offered a short meet and greet to confirm but was 500 ppm. If she's the girl in the pics and doesn't rush, I'll do it at least once. But if they are STG level, I just say 150 to 250 depending on level of intimacy. Am I ok in this offer or should I like most other negotiations, let them tell me and work down from there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Banger12;5731751]I've been banned because my credit card company flagged transaction as fraud.
Tried a few times to open up new accounts and they shut me down the second I try to upgrade account.
I've tried different IP address, wifi locations, email accounts, different credit cards and pre paid cards.
Anyone know what am I missing here?
Maybe SA is doing me a favor by not taking my 109.00.[/QUOTE]One important thing is whatever debit or credit card you are using must be capable of international transactions.

There are a few pre-paid cards out there that support international transactions, but you need to read the fine print on the back & bottom of the packages before you buy & load a pre-paid one if you go that route. You may have to go on the card issuer's website & set up a USA name & address before it will process an international transaction?

Other than that, I don't know what to suggest.

I've been on & off of seeking and would not feel like I'm losing out if they didn't take my money, but I understand it is frustrating having to jump through more hoops.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1b1c7f9a-6fbf-457f-a0b4-a19351617fef[/URL]

She is back in new incarnation. She is a known con artist!

Does anyone have any reviews or information about Bumble?

New to the thread, but not to the forum.

I have been reading through the posts, and figured out most of the SAs are time wasters these days, and it involves recurring annoying SA membership to test the waters.

Reviews show there are some genuine SBs and some DTF; and reviewers usually post the SA link and experiences.

What is the norm of this thread; do reviewers care to share the details like phone numbers over PM; or do they want fellow mongers to explore and get it through taking SA membership.

If someone can share details over PM; they can save lot of time and money for a fellow monger.

Please let me know.


CTL.

[QUOTE=BrianPeter;5736664]Does anyone have any reviews or information about Bumble?[/QUOTE]To me, Bumble is a dating app just like Tinder. I've dabbled with it a few times during travel. If you're a stud and connect with someone who wants to date or have a casual hookup you might get lucky. But like I said, it's a dating app and to me produces no better results. But that's just been my experience. Same with some of my friends. Others may have had different results.

I recently upgraded to premium on SA, as the basic subscription gives you almost nothing. The plan is to rack up as much info and numbers to keep off line as possible. After about 2 weeks of hustling (and parts of my life I'll never get back), I'm finding the effort to be very futile. And although I've only spent the subscription upgrade of $109, so far I think I could have had more success getting to know strippers at the club and ordering take out. Out of about 200 messages sent, less than 10% reply and even less are DTF. Hell, you can see when the messages have been read and half of them don't even look. I have only found one selling pictures, I found a couple of pros that just said to text them the day of and they will meet (they never want to get to know you first), about 7 to 10 that may be worth chasing but the communication is very slow. I insulted a couple of GPS girls that wanted money to just have lunch, and they didn't even look that good either. I've only have one so far that seemed like a legit "struggling student needing to make ends meet". She just didn't meet the bar on looks. Keep in mind, I'm trying to cover 3 states and still can't flush a cute one out. At the end of the day, the only benefit I'm hearing is that it could come at a reduced price or unlimited time compared to an escort. If things improve, I'll be sure to report.

[QUOTE=ChicagoTrueLov;5736802]New to the thread, but not to the forum.

I have been reading through the posts, and figured out most of the SAs are time wasters these days, and it involves recurring annoying SA membership to test the waters.

Reviews show there are some genuine SBs and some DTF; and reviewers usually post the SA link and experiences.

What is the norm of this thread; do reviewers care to share the details like phone numbers over PM; or do they want fellow mongers to explore and get it through taking SA membership.

If someone can share details over PM; they can save lot of time and money for a fellow monger.

Please let me know.


CTL.[/QUOTE]

I bet the women to men ratio is 10 to 1 or worse. For someone with a pussy between their legs I bet their mailboxes get flooded?

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;5737201]I recently upgraded to premium on SA, as the basic subscription gives you almost nothing. The plan is to rack up as much info and numbers to keep off line as possible. After about 2 weeks of hustling (and parts of my life I'll never get back), I'm finding the effort to be very futile. And although I've only spent the subscription upgrade of $109, so far I think I could have had more success getting to know strippers at the club and ordering take out. Out of about 200 messages sent, less than 10% reply and even less are DTF. Hell, you can see when the messages have been read and half of them don't even look. I have only found one selling pictures, I found a couple of pros that just said to text them the day of and they will meet (they never want to get to know you first), about 7 to 10 that may be worth chasing but the communication is very slow. I insulted a couple of GPS girls that wanted money to just have lunch, and they didn't even look that good either. I've only have one so far that seemed like a legit "struggling student needing to make ends meet". She just didn't meet the bar on looks. Keep in mind, I'm trying to cover 3 states and still can't flush a cute one out. At the end of the day, the only benefit I'm hearing is that it could come at a reduced price or unlimited time compared to an escort. If things improve, I'll be sure to report.[/QUOTE]