General rule of thumb for Asian ads
[QUOTE=Genre;2130411]Well, I went ahead a tried it, and this was a fair description of my experience. No shower, no nuru, but I did get french.[/QUOTE]Is to assume, unless there's clear and convincing evidence (reviews, reports, etc.) to the contrary, that 99.9% of the time both the pics and the claims will be false. The Asian apt places mostly follow the same general format. You're not going to get the girl in the pics, or even in the videos that some ads are now using. You're going to get whomever is working that day. That's not to say you may not stumble on a gem, but it's a crapshoot so you should always book for the shortest time and be ready to walk if you don't like what you see. If you start to walk, they will almost always drop the price to get you to stay. At that point it's your call but it's worth remembering that sometimes a more mature or less attractive provider can still provide good service. But that's a call you can only make when you see your options. On that note, if there's more than one girl working, you can always ask to see who else is there. They will probably let you see the other girl (s) if not busy because they want your $.
And it's a 99.9% likelihood that the girl won't be from Singapore or Japan or Malaysia or any exotic-sounding location. That was just a ploy to get you to show up and she will usually be Chinese. And put any thoughts of getting a true nuru experience out of your mind 'cause it ain't going to happen. If you're lucky you'll get a few minutes of average massage, maybe with oil, before the girl asks you to turn over and moves on to CBJ or BBBJ (YMMV) and FS. I've been lucky a few times and had some near GFE sessions but, like I said above, it's always a crapshoot.
If you luck out and get a gem, you can always ask to upgrade to an hr. I've never had a problem doing that. The other thing you can do if you and the provider "click" is to ask for her digits so you can find out directly from her when and where she's working. The girls usually rotate around the area and also in and out of the area so it's very likely she will only be in that particular apt for 1-2 weeks.
Happy hunting and stay safe!
If the Glove Doesn't Fit You Must Acquit
[QUOTE=CowboyWilson;2129384]Went to see this girl [URL]http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-petite-barbie-specials-all-night-1oo-me-22/14868238[/URL] 786-505-5632 white girl pics, black spinner opens the door. I pass based on bait and switch. Believe a female arranger is setting up appts for several girls.[/QUOTE]I noticed the super hot photos too. I didn't call as google image search told me to avoid. You would think they would at least post photos of the same race. Haha good move on your part, thanks for the report cowboy SS.
We really need to stop over paying!!
Gentlemen,
Reading posts from other areas makes me want to yank my hair out. We are the biggest overpayers in the country. To add insult to Injury.
Sometimes the providers are rude and rushy (if that's a word). We need to haggle and get word out there that were not paying premium rates for lackluster service or even good service enough is enough.
Some observations on provider pricing and overpaying
[QUOTE=Lohkey;2132191]Gentlemen,
Reading posts from other areas makes me want to yank my hair out. We are the biggest overpayers in the country. To add insult to Injury.
Sometimes the providers are rude and rushy (if that's a word). We need to haggle and get word out there that were not paying premium rates for lackluster service or even good service enough is enough.[/QUOTE]I completely agree and here's an analogy to consider. Think about how the world of providers is like the world of restaurants.
Sometimes a customer is in the mood for a specific type of food (Asian? Italian? Soul?) and sometimes he craves a nice juicy steak from a good restaurant. Of course, for everyday urges, maybe all he wants is a quick burger from a fast food joint.
But for each category, regular restaurant patrons usually figure out the normal price range and stop patronizing overpriced places when they don't offer anything special. After all, why would you pay twice as much for a steak at one place when you can get the same meal somewhere else for half the $? Even more important, why would you go to a fancy restaurant and pay steak prices when all they give you is hamburger?
But the same hobbyist who would never think of doing any of the above at a restaurant will absolutely throw out their good sense when it comes to providers. If steak = GFE, how many reviews have you read where the client paid 300/400/500+ per hr when the same level of service is available for less (and sometimes much less). And if hamburger = non GFE, how many times have you seen someone pay 200+ per hr for basic service?
Sure, if restaurant ambiance = provider appearance, that counts for quite a bit. I'm happy to pay more for a steak at a beautiful restaurant than a regular one but I'm not willing to pay steak prices for hamburger no matter how nice the place is. And if I found myself in that situation and I couldn't cancel the visit, I would absolutely never repeat and I would let everyone know about that overpriced joint.
I don't know if the DC Metro area has a problem with hobbyists who have more $ than sense, or whether the problem is newbies who are just glad to get pussy at any price, but it's been said on this board before that many providers charge much more in this area than they do when they travel to other parts of the US.
But the bottom line is that, with very few exceptions, pussy is a commodity. Providers certainly see clients that way. If you have an ATF and you think you're her favorite regular, try reducing the fee you pay and see how that works out. That's why experienced seniors always have a a backup (or 2, 3 or more) when they make an appt. If your first choice isn't available you move on to the next. Oh, and for every "one in a million" provider out there (and I'll concede there may be a few) I can find you a dozen others who provide the same service or pretty damn close for significantly less.
The problem with providers (like with chefs) is that they all think they're special and try to charge according to that mindset. It's the job of the client to vote with their feet and bring a dose of reality to the marketplace. I don't expect non-forum members to think this way but it's sad and frustrating to see the number of forum members who give their wallet to the little head to do the thinking and the spending.
Time to start sharing more info and doing more homework and making a better effort to hold the line on overpriced services. You don't even have to haggle to have an effect. A simple "sorry, but I was looking for something less expensive" will do. If some providers start getting those kinds of messages they may lower their prices, start running specials or at least think twice before raising prices. Of course many will never change but that doesn't mean we have to be part of the problem by continuing to overpay.
So get out there, use the big head and be part of the solution!
Even I didn't go for that one
[QUOTE=CowboyWilson;2129384]Went to see this girl [URL]http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-petite-barbie-specials-all-night-1oo-me-22/14868238[/URL] 786-505-5632 white girl pics, black spinner opens the door. I pass based on bait and switch. Believe a female arranger is setting up appts for several girls.[/QUOTE]Apparently I'm a bit of a sucker by this board's standards, but even I gave that one a solid "no fucking way". I can only assume that you hoped that someone who posted 9. 5 pics was at least a 7 (LOL, I've done it too.).
Great post (from someone who is probably guilty)
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2133051]I completely agree and here's an analogy to consider. Think about how the world of providers is like the world of restaurants.
Sometimes a customer is in the mood for a specific type of food (Asian? Italian? Soul?) and sometimes he craves a nice juicy steak from a good restaurant. Of course, for everyday urges, maybe all he wants is a quick burger from a fast food joint.
But for each category, regular restaurant patrons usually figure out the normal price range and stop patronizing overpriced places when they don't offer anything special. After all, why would you pay twice as much for a steak at one place when you can get the same meal somewhere else for half the $? Even more important, why would you go to a fancy restaurant and pay steak prices when all they give you is hamburger?
But the same hobbyist who would never think of doing any of the above at a restaurant will absolutely throw out their good sense when it comes to providers. If steak = GFE, how many reviews have you read where the client paid 300/400/500+ per hr when the same level of service is available for less (and sometimes much less). And if hamburger = non GFE, how many times have you seen someone pay 200+ per hr for basic service?
Sure, if restaurant ambiance = provider appearance, that counts for quite a bit. I'm happy to pay more for a steak at a beautiful restaurant than a regular one but I'm not willing to pay steak prices for hamburger no matter how nice the place is. And if I found myself in that situation and I couldn't cancel the visit, I would absolutely never repeat and I would let everyone know about that overpriced joint.
I don't know if the DC Metro area has a problem with hobbyists who have more $ than sense, or whether the problem is newbies who are just glad to get pussy at any price, but it's been said on this board before that many providers charge much more in this area than they do when they travel to other parts of the US.
But the bottom line is that, with very few exceptions, pussy is a commodity. Providers certainly see clients that way. If you have an ATF and you think you're her favorite regular, try reducing the fee you pay and see how that works out. That's why experienced seniors always have a a backup (or 2, 3 or more) when they make an appt. If your first choice isn't available you move on to the next. Oh, and for every "one in a million" provider out there (and I'll concede there may be a few) I can find you a dozen others who provide the same service or pretty damn close for significantly less.
The problem with providers (like with chefs) is that they all think they're special and try to charge according to that mindset. It's the job of the client to vote with their feet and bring a dose of reality to the marketplace. I don't expect non-forum members to think this way but it's sad and frustrating to see the number of forum members who give their wallet to the little head to do the thinking and the spending.
Time to start sharing more info and doing more homework and making a better effort to hold the line on overpriced services. You don't even have to haggle to have an effect. A simple "sorry, but I was looking for something less expensive" will do. If some providers start getting those kinds of messages they may lower their prices, start running specials or at least think twice before raising prices. Of course many will never change but that doesn't mean we have to be part of the problem by continuing to overpay.
So get out there, use the big head and be part of the solution![/QUOTE]Your analogies are spot on. I, unfortunately, feel kind of trapped at times. Every good-looking provider who gives decent service in this town charges a premium, and I'm often (if only subconsciously) made aware of the fact that so many have NBA policies because black guys are known to haggle. I like to think I'm taking one for the cause, but in reality I'm just keeping prices inflated. And I should absolutely know fucking better. You've probably seen some of my 15 or so earlier posts, and I've mongered in quite a few places over the past decade, and have never seen so little offered for so much money.
I didn't know that CBJ was standard until I got back to DC (it wasn't when I lived here in 2003-2004).
No Problemo, always willing to share
[QUOTE=SSRod;2131217]I noticed the super hot photos too. I didn't call as google image search told me to avoid. You would think they would at least post photos of the same race. Haha good move on your part, thanks for the report cowboy SS.[/QUOTE]I should have done better research however, the only thing I was out was a little time.
