Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=CuziletYou72;6415997]…Cora, very popular. She's a freak and loves to be the point of attention in VIP. Not into OTC fun but she'll tell you she needs 7 bills for FS. But with her you'll have a good time, pretty good time without having to spend 7 bills. But she needs to fill comfortable and does like if you dance with her after you've had a VIP with another dancer if she things you nutted….[/QUOTE]Seven bills? Is she Princess Kate? And what did you pay, for what, that you deem a "very good time"? It's your money, but if it's over $40 that's a lot of tip for a little post-ejaculation limp dick rubbing, maybe through the pants. I would never give a dime to a girl making such an offer, but that's my spending opinion and of course you have yours I'm not trying to rag on you just asking what you're paying so I can gauge these girls' view of what guys pay. If they're all bought into GPS (like they seem to do on busy Thursday nights), I'll just go elsewhere like in OC or Rio where that isn't the case.

[QUOTE=CaseyX;6416334]Lilah was willing to do a regular lap dance with me when I first met her just a couple months ago. It was early on Friday evening and club was pretty dead so maybe that's why she was willing. Or maybe she's gotten full of herself lately. I understand why a girl would only want to do VIPs when the club is very busy and there's another PL waiting waiting in the wings but it's not a smart business strategy. It's the good dance (and pleasant interaction before and after) that made me want to take Lilah in back without her needing to push it.[/QUOTE]You make a good point. Girls change based on if it's busy or not, or sometimes months pass by and a no extras girl becomes one. Many girls only offer extras depending on the customer or only after knowing someone enough. And some girls have really bad days and are just done.

I have often seen someone here say a girl does no extras, when I got extras from that girl the very first time. And for example Cora told me my first time she "doesn't do extras" but as you can see it's possible. She doesn't know me, she's being cautious, or she thinks I smell who knows. And girls will also quote different prices for different guys. Absolutely that's true, in PMs when comparing notes it becomes obvious I almost never come up with the same price as someone else got. I mean think about it, there are guys who don't budge at 2 and sometimes walk and sometimes get it. So by definition there are different prices, and that's not something to get upset about that'll never change. As others say, it can't hurt to look good and smell nice.

SR has some girls like Candy that might do a lot more for free, no tip. I tipped her anyways because we got to keep that going. And when Melanie worked at SR she said "just tip me" while already starting it, she didn't even tell me how much. Sometimes she loves to f* and it just so happens that people will also pay her for it. Win win. Another guy PM'd me that she did not offer extras to him. BTW the second thing she ever said to me was "You're not a cop right". I'll never forget her.

I won't go into further details because we should not be directly connecting girls' names with extras, it'll spoil the deal. But a bit of comparing notes is illuminating.

[QUOTE=CumDripp;6415810]Does anyone know how the quota system works at Synn not sure I get it based on the previous posts. I have noticed that there are some girls that are VIP only. But was unsure why? Like isn't getting a lap dance better than nothing at all? At least its some income in the hour, I see them just sitting there, waiting to only do VIPs for customers?

I believe as someone mentioned at SR they pay a certain fee upfront when they come in like some amount and don't make anything until they pass that fee, except tips. So girls are in the negative once they arrive.[/QUOTE]The club can't require them to pay a stage fee anymore. They also get paid a wage for the hours spent working. But you're right. They don't get any cut from their lap dances or VIP fees until they meet a certain cut off. I don't know if that's equal to their total hourly or higher than that. Pretty sure both clubs use a similar system though the numbers vary.

I've had Synn dancers tell me that the amount of money that they get for the 2 for $20 special on Thursdays is minuscule. Just a few bucks. Because of the small cut those dancers don't like doing them. They feel like they're working for almost nothing unless the guy is tipping. I get that. It might be better for them to stay on the floor looking for a VIP than getting pocket change though it does miss out on the chance to hook a PL via a good dance. From what I've heard the cut is better for the 3 for 40's or for normal $20 lap dances.

Never been to Synn on a Thursday, it true there can be lines to get into the VIP rooms? That sounds like a mood killer.

I know from a very good and reliable source that the quota is &.

$180. Once the club gets their $180 then the club and dance splits 50/50 the rest of the money. So dancers rely on tips for a good portion of their income. But those offering extras for any amount, can definitely make a killing every night.

[QUOTE=CaseyX;6416879]The club can't require them to pay a stage fee anymore. They also get paid a wage for the hours spent working. But you're right. They don't get any cut from their lap dances or VIP fees until they meet a certain cut off. I don't know if that's equal to their total hourly or higher than that. Pretty sure both clubs use a similar system though the numbers vary.

I've had Synn dancers tell me that the amount of money that they get for the 2 for $20 special on Thursdays is minuscule. Just a few bucks. Because of the small cut those dancers don't like doing them. They feel like they're working for almost nothing unless the guy is tipping. I get that. It might be better for them to stay on the floor looking for a VIP than getting pocket change though it does miss out on the chance to hook a PL via a good dance. From what I've heard the cut is better for the 3 for 40's or for normal $20 lap dances.[/QUOTE]

No way I would pay 7 bills. I wouldn't even think to pay 4 bill. Although I can easily afford it. I have had VIO dances with her in the Rhino Rooms and she's handle it inside the pants, has allowed me to finger all her holes and cum on tits and I will reiterate I would never dare to even pay 3 bills at a club period. I can pay a lot less as a massage parlor for a whole 60 minutes LOL.

[QUOTE=PelicanT99;6416478]Seven bills? Is she Princess Kate? And what did you pay, for what, that you deem a "very good time"? It's your money, but if it's over $40 that's a lot of tip for a little post-ejaculation limp dick rubbing, maybe through the pants. I would never give a dime to a girl making such an offer, but that's my spending opinion and of course you have yours I'm not trying to rag on you just asking what you're paying so I can gauge these girls' view of what guys pay. If they're all bought into GPS (like they seem to do on busy Thursday nights), I'll just go elsewhere like in OC or Rio where that isn't the case.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CuziletYou72;6417229]No way I would pay 7 bills.[/QUOTE]Interesting take but let's remember YMMV for all of us. Not just that it's true, but we want to avoid problems with new members expecting specific services from a girl when she might not offer it to every person, every time, or even next time for us. Getting things out of most girls is an art. Unless she's a nympho, like a few of the girls who are crazy.

I'll just re-iterate the ex-porn star girl at SR gives limited free extras last time I went (but YMMV). Those who know know. She is crazy.

[QUOTE=CuziletYou72;6417229]No way I would pay 7 bills. I wouldn't even think to pay 4 bill. Although I can easily afford it. I have had VIO dances with her in the Rhino Rooms and she's handle it inside the pants, has allowed me to finger all her holes and cum on tits and I will reiterate I would never dare to even pay 3 bills at a club period. I can pay a lot less as a massage parlor for a whole 60 minutes LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I didn't think you were insane; just that some of these girls are. I'll confess to paying $300 tips for FS, twice at Ecstasy in OC & once at BELAX. Not proud of it, but sometimes the little head prevails.

I agree, massage parlors are a better value. But strip clubs offer better lookers, true choice, less "are they trafficked" concern, less LEO concern (seriously, when was the last SoCal strip club bust? Century Theater in 2000? Etc. I always end up back in strip clubs, prospecting for a gold nugget LOL.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6416843]Y... And when Melanie worked at SR she said "just tip me" while already starting it, she didn't even tell me how much. Sometimes she loves to f* and it just so happens that people will also pay her for it. Win win. Another guy PM'd me that she did not offer extras to him. BTW the second thing she ever said to me was "You're not a cop right". I'll never forget her.
[/QUOTE]I have a PM from one guy telling me that Melanie doesn't do extras at all and from another guy saying she did everything for a reasonable price. Was the first guy lying for some reason or did he just manage to convince her that he was a cop? I never was able to connect with Melanie when she was at SR but I did shortly after she moved to Synn. As soon as we got in back she gave me the same "just tip me" line.

[QUOTE=TGarden;6417073]Never been to Synn on a Thursday, it true there can be lines to get into the VIP rooms? That sounds like a mood killer.[/QUOTE]Yes, there can be lines. It can easily be 10-15 minutes wait. How much of a mood killer it is depends on the girl and how your interaction is going. If you're just standing there awkwardly without saying much it's going to suck. But if you're having a good conversation and maybe playing a little grab ass while you wait it's not so bad.

[QUOTE=CaseyX;6417660]I have a PM from one guy telling me that Melanie doesn't do extras at all and from another guy saying she did everything for a reasonable price. Was the first guy lying for some reason or did he just manage to convince her that he was a cop? I never was able to connect with Melanie when she was at SR but I did shortly after she moved to Synn. As soon as we got in back she gave me the same "just tip me" line.[/QUOTE]Could be a lot of reasons he didn't get offers from Melanie. Just this last page we have two other examples of girls who offered extras to others but not me. Maybe I looked like their dad. Cora in particular specifically didn't like me at first. Like at stage on Thursday everyone was throwing money and she smiled at all the guys. Except me. Every time she looked at me she stopped smiling and looked away. Never seen anything like it in 20 years. I had never met her before and it's not my race or age because I'm identical to the guys she was smiling at. I figure she thinks I'm someone, or look like someone who hurt her because nothing else makes sense. Then I took her to VIP anyways and by the end of the VIP we were doing great, buried the hatchet so to speak. So you never know. And yes I know I shouldn't take chances like that but none of us think properly when we see a girl we like.

Three things about Melanie that's not too surprising: She doesn't like guys who do or might disrespect her, she is extras heavy but has to screen guys for safety, and she is a literal sex addict. To the last point I had Stormy complain I was taking too long, while Melanie complained the opposite. Wants me to take the entire VIP if at all possible. I'm intimidated by her. These girls sometimes teach us things. Melanie is a lot like Pink, more on that another day.

[QUOTE=CuziletYou72;6417227]I know from a very good and reliable source that the quota is $180. Once the club gets their $180 then the club and dance splits 50/50 the rest of the money. So dancers rely on tips for a good portion of their income. But those offering extras for any amount, can definitely make a killing every night.[/QUOTE]Actually you're right Safari said the quota was $180. The reason I said $140 was that was the cost of the VIP I was taking her to and Safari said the club would just take all of it, so what was I going to tip her since I told her I just wanted a regular VIP dance. When I asked her to clarify she said $180 was the full quota. Hope that clears it up. It's funny because I tipped her well on stage and she thanked me as she walked away, which at first I thought was sarcastic since it's just $20. But she seemed genuine about that and if true it's more than she would have gotten from me for just a VIP.

I have had 3 different dancers at 3 different clubs confirm this system, including a girl at SR who used to work Spearmint Rhino. She said they take 50/50 of the rest like you said. Her exact words about the Paradise system were "I don't know how you're supposed to make any money". She did not do heavy extras, so her statement is so innocent it makes me blush. But she gets it.

It's funny that on a good night, SR and Synn take more or less the same cut. But because SR makes you pay them even if you don't sell a dance, the girl is going to immediately start selling vips as fast and often as she could. Just a VIP is worth it. Whereas a Paradise or Synn, they aren't sure if it's even worth going to the first VIP with you. Even a club regular who sees you ever week would be a waste of time if they decide not to get extras that day and it's your first dance. It's a big gamble. If they don't get a second customer, there's no point, they're dancing on you almost for free.

The end result of the Kim system is you get a heavy extras club, every time.

[QUOTE=CaseyX;6417670]Yes, there can be lines. It can easily be 10-15 minutes wait. How much of a mood killer it is depends on the girl and how your interaction is going. If you're just standing there awkwardly without saying much it's going to suck. But if you're having a good conversation and maybe playing a little grab ass while you wait it's not so bad.[/QUOTE]I never go on Thursdays and rarely at night, & I've never waited in line. Do you pay for the dance first, before you start waiting? Ever get clipped with girls walking away, or walking back deal points / prices, or staff asking for room charge again (the sort of BS clips that are Kim club tactics)? It would probably kill my mood, unless the girl could hold a conversation or gives up some public warmup groping. Even more so if I saw some other PL coming up to talk to the girl, or worse to ask me questions (like they do in the Synn bathroom). Crowds make people act stupid.

Been going for years and I don't think there's a single dancer that couldn't be "convinced" to do extras by the 2nd or 3rd visit if not the 1st. Especially these days a lot of the newbies eventually become friends with the vets and follow each other on socials and see how much attention they get from why'know and they crack fast.

[QUOTE=PelicanT99;6417359]Thanks. I didn't think you were insane; just that some of these girls are. I'll confess to paying $300 tips for FS, twice at Ecstasy in OC & once at BELAX. Not proud of it, but sometimes the little head prevails.

I agree, massage parlors are a better value. But strip clubs offer better lookers, true choice, less "are they trafficked" concern, less LEO concern (seriously, when was the last SoCal strip club bust? Century Theater in 2000? Etc. I always end up back in strip clubs, prospecting for a gold nugget LOL.[/QUOTE]They used to hit DVCOI couple times a year. School district wanted them shut down and had the city harassed them until they went out of business.