Any of you fellas know if Nana is back at Green?
Van
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Any of you fellas know if Nana is back at Green?
Van
so I took a shot and visited the second floor though a barker outside suggested a better game on the 3rd.
I saw Angie who gave a decent table shower for .6 house cover but when it can to the room right off the back she asked me for "how much you gonna give me". Not knowing what she might provide I asked, she repeated 'how much..." then suggested I leave a tip on the towel cabinet. I said I do not know how you are going to work so therefore I cannot access a "tip".
She insisted and I was stubborn, she said everyone leaves the tip first and I said I never knew of this practice. She said .6 is for the shower and sauna and I asked if we were finished, to which she replied no but no touching.
She gave me a decent medium pressure massage back when it can time for the usual flip she said the message was complete, no flip and no second shot at an offer.
Question, is this how it is done in DC. I know in NOVA they ask you if you have a wrapper to ensure you are not 5-0 and then try to squeeze you for every cent they possible can but never before the service.
I left without an additional payment because I felt she did not compete the service. Not the fact that she did not lend a hand or speak to the little one but because she did nto complete the message, nothing on the chest or front legs. I an just not sure if this is how it works now.
To be honest I would have given her .2 if she completed the G-rated therapy.
How many places ask for the tip before you even lay on the massage table? How do things work these days?????
[QUOTE=Justforme]I saw Angie who gave a decent table shower for .6 house cover but when it can to the room right off the back she asked me for "how much you gonna give me". Not knowing what she might provide I asked, she repeated 'how much..." then suggested I leave a tip on the towel cabinet. I said I do not know how you are going to work so therefore I cannot access a "tip".[/QUOTE]What, exactly, were you expecting her to do? Solicit you so you could put the handcuffs on and take her away?
You'll probably not have much luck getting a masseuse to discuss having sex with you in exchange for money. It turns out that is illegal in most of the United States and District of Columbia.
I haven't been to a DC AMP in quite a long time, but I have been to BT in Beltsville in recent years. And based on reports here, it seemed consistent that the house fee was $60-80 for an hour session and the standard tip was $100 for the highest level of service.
But I went down by the Marine Barracks on Friday and the woman who greeted me at the door said the fee was $160. It didn't seem clear to me if she meant that was the inclusive charge or if she meant $160 for the hour, plus the tip. Based on a couple reports I've read on this forum. It seemed very likely that the latter was exactly what she meant.
At any rate, she said they were booked up at the moment and asked me to come back in a half hour. Given time to think, I recalled a agency provider in town whose fee was $260 an hour. Why not just go to her? Isn't the whole point of the AMP experience that it's a lower rate? A decent provider can give you a massage and the works; all you miss out of is the table shower.
Anyway, that's what I did: I contacted TGND and had a good time elsewhere. I'm still interested in visiting an AMP; perhaps I'll try *.
[QUOTE=Adobe James]I haven't been to a DC AMP in quite a long time, but I have been to BT in Beltsville in recent years. And based on reports here, it seemed consistent that the house fee was $60-80 for an hour session and the standard tip was $100 for the highest level of service.
But I went down by the Marine Barracks on Friday and the woman who greeted me at the door said the fee was $160. It didn't seem clear to me if she meant that was the inclusive charge or if she meant $160 for the hour, plus the tip. Based on a couple reports I've read on this forum. It seemed very likely that the latter was exactly what she meant.
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There is a spa in DC that has always operated that way, and occasionally you get a provider who does, too. But there should be no further charges beyond $1.6. That is all I have ever paid there.
That being said, she sure could try to hustle you if she thought she could get away with it. Just be cool and make sure you get what you pay for. A conversation with the manager about rip-offs works if that is the case.
[QUOTE=Adobe James]But I went down by the Marine Barracks on Friday and the woman who greeted me at the door said the fee was $160. It didn't seem clear to me if she meant that was the inclusive charge or if she meant $160 for the hour, plus the tip. Based on a couple reports I've read on this forum. It seemed very likely that the latter was exactly what she meant.[/QUOTE]That was for everything and no additional tip is requested. This location seems to prefer collecting the total at the start of every meeting. I used to have problems with this practice too but I never had any reason to complain with my therapists in this place.
Having said that, I visited this place last week and got Toy. Light massage, great attitude and even better performance. Dunno if she's still there but I had a great time. wil repeat.
I never mentioned anything about discussions I said I HAVE NEVER TIPPED BEFORE SESSION. Tipping without knowing what is coming is setting yourself up for dissappontment. How would I know to trust her. Putting money out on the table does not insure anything.
THe reason many NOVA girls went to BYOC is to avoid the LE complication, if you provide that would be intrapment.
Also, if I am LE I would have lost the opportunity to bust her once I allowed her to touch little willie during the table shower. LE might get caught with their pants down but the are not supposed to be caught with close off. Another point to deconsturuct your comment if I put the money down on the table LE would still be able to bust her, she is accepting, anything that happens after done or implied would bustable.
Sorry, I still do not know about tipping before the action.
[QUOTE=Steamvac]What, exactly, were you expecting her to do? Solicit you so you could put the handcuffs on and take her away?
You'll probably not have much luck getting a masseuse to discuss having sex with you in exchange for money. It turns out that is illegal in most of the United States and District of Columbia.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Justforme]I never mentioned anything about discussions I said I HAVE NEVER TIPPED BEFORE SESSION. Tipping without knowing what is coming is setting yourself up for dissappontment. How would I know to trust her. Putting money out on the table does not insure anything.
THe reason many NOVA girls went to BYOC is to avoid the LE complication, if you provide that would be intrapment.
Also, if I am LE I would have lost the opportunity to bust her once I allowed her to touch little willie during the table shower. LE might get caught with their pants down but the are not supposed to be caught with close off. Another point to deconsturuct your comment if I put the money down on the table LE would still be able to bust her, she is accepting, anything that happens after done or implied would bustable.
Sorry, I still do not know about tipping before the action.[/QUOTE]
Oh, LEO would never lie about their little willy being touched, now would they. Very honorable they are and honest, too.
Virginia operates differently than DC. If you "tip" before hand and know what the tip is supposed to be, you'll avoid the whole upselling problem and get exactly what you want. There is no bait-and-switch. If you have a problem with that, then stay in Virginia, rather than come here and ***** on the board. I would Virginia is more sketchy in terms of what you get, price, etc., than DC.
Most of the time she is never going to touch the money, it'll just sit there on the table. Some mongers take advantage of this situation, in that you don't always have to tip in advance, but throw some money down after the fact--and then shortchange the girl. THATS why the girls leave, because asshole newbies or cheap ass dickweeds shortchange them and don't know the system--or know the system too well and take advantage.
If you're going to have this entire discussion with her, she will think you're LEO and if not that, then you are a pain-in-the ass customer and will get less for your money. Then you'll come here on the board and ***** about the bad service you received, while the rest of us wonder what the hell you did wrong.
Now we know.
[QUOTE=VanDriver]Any of you fellas know if Nana is back at Green?
Van[/QUOTE]
As of two weeks ago, no.
I did not know her and I did not know the service she would or would not provide. If I put $20 on the table would I be able to get more if I offer more later in the session? After the travisties that occur in VA with the grandmas (and others) trying to milk you for every dollar they can, how do I know?
Ok, for .6 I go a table shower, a back massage and a lesson.
I have been to DC on many occasions and never had this happen. I do not know this is a regular practice there or not. I read about this place on this site in which someone explained about going to the second floor rather than the 3rd but they did not say you need to pay up front.
I still do not know if I trust putting a couple of bills on the table before any massage or "accidental contact is done. I could understand how they could be worried about me pulling out handcuff from thin air but I also should worry about them taking the the money and not doing anything. If this is the practice here I accept this but I still will not trust, until I know for sure from personal experience.
And Drunker; I could understand more of your later explanation, too many running out on the bill. After you just called po po a lier then he could lie about anything. The fact of throwing money on the table would not mean he would not say.... I buy the stiffing part but not the LO part.
Just another question because I am used to a scene from far far away, do the ladies stay for a while here? I am used to the girls who do the ciruit; start in NY or SF, put in a few at one location and then rotate. After a year or so they move on to another state and hit the locations there.
And on a personal curiosity, in that place far far away, I met a few places that had Chinese college (really studying) student providing services. They did not provide full (atleast I did not get any) but gave a wonderful massage and you always left happy. The one thing about this place was always the "thought" that some more could and might happen. It never did for me but I had some good massages and good company frrom these cuties. And though personalities and hit and miss, with this place I never experienced one that was not nurturing and kind (all spoke English well). Are any places like that near or did they return to China with Hong Kong?
[QUOTE=Drunker Irish]Oh, LEO would never lie about their little willy being touched, now would they. Very honorable they are and honest, too.
Virginia operates differently than DC. If you "tip" before hand and know what the tip is supposed to be, you'll avoid the whole upselling problem and get exactly what you want. There is no bait-and-switch. If you have a problem with that, then stay in Virginia, rather than come here and ***** on the board. I would Virginia is more sketchy in terms of what you get, price, etc., than DC.
Most of the time she is never going to touch the money, it'll just sit there on the table. Some mongers take advantage of this situation, in that you don't always have to tip in advance, but throw some money down after the fact--and then shortchange the girl. THATS why the girls leave, because asshole newbies or cheap ass dickweeds shortchange them and don't know the system--or know the system too well and take advantage.
If you're going to have this entire discussion with her, she will think you're LEO and if not that, then you are a pain-in-the ass customer and will get less for your money. Then you'll come here on the board and ***** about the bad service you received, while the rest of us wonder what the hell you did wrong.
Now we know.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Justforme]I never mentioned anything about discussions I said I HAVE NEVER TIPPED BEFORE SESSION. Tipping without knowing what is coming is setting yourself up for dissappontment. How would I know to trust her. Putting money out on the table does not insure anything.
THe reason many NOVA girls went to BYOC is to avoid the LE complication, if you provide that would be intrapment.
Also, if I am LE I would have lost the opportunity to bust her once I allowed her to touch little willie during the table shower. LE might get caught with their pants down but the are not supposed to be caught with close off. Another point to deconsturuct your comment if I put the money down on the table LE would still be able to bust her, she is accepting, anything that happens after done or implied would bustable.
Sorry, I still do not know about tipping before the action.[/QUOTE]
I always thought it was standard operating procedure to tip beforehand at an AMP. Give them donation (or they count it on the night stand) and they leave to get supplies. The amount you give tells them what you expect. I've also discussed it with the provider and donated then. Never have I paid after the fact. In contrast to your statement, how would they know to trust you if you were paying after the fact? It's much easier to trust the person working at an establishment who answers to a mamsan than some random anonymous person who could disappear forever the second he walks out the door. Let's do the deed and then let me dig into my pocket only to have half of what I promised. Makes no sense for them.
Pretty sure if you read the reports in this section dating back to the boards inception that tipping beforehand is common practice.
I went to get another session, this time had Bebe. As mentioned before, in this location, you pay the tip upfront and like I said, I had no problem doing this at this location since I have not had reason to complain ever.
standard fare, 1.60 gets you everything. Bebe had nice attitude and playful. nice body and face. will repeat.
MD, NOVA, DC, NC, etc., I usually tip after the fact, and with the exception of a first time visit, I am almost never dissapointed. Whatever the maximum service available, it can be had without dropping money before the service. At the very least, when I pay the house fee, Mammasan or the provider might get a glimpse of what I have left, but she won't know how much it really is and I never carry in more than .2 over the normal tip for the area.
If it comes down to negotiating, by the time she is asking for more tip, questions of LEO are usually long gone and a fair and straightforward deal can be made.
The earlier ad hominems against the esteemed Sr. memeber notwithstanding, his question was valid and deserving of a valid answer.
For what it's worth, .2 tip for a simple but well done massage is more than reasonable if the house fee is .6. That is a 30% tip - well above what our SO's tip for manicures/pedicures/waxings/etc.
AD
on the table or night stand but I have not until the other night had it requested before the service.
Most common is the work on the back while questioning if you have been there before, what do you do... but on flip at, some time, during frontal massage comes the suttle question of what you want and/or the attempt to have you put their hand on a special area.
As I mentioned I have been to DC many time between 2003 and now (less now due to logistics) and until the other night did not experience this.
You live you learn.
I remember on place used to advertise in city paper, it was to the left of on "L" down an alley. I do not remember their name or event if they built in front but that was a haunt a couple back. They did a great service had young K and treated you well. Does anyone think they know where I am talking about? Are they still around?
[QUOTE=Loop Vet]I always thought it was standard operating procedure to tip beforehand at an AMP. Give them donation (or they count it on the night stand) and they leave to get supplies. The amount you give tells them what you expect. I've also discussed it with the provider and donated then. Never have I paid after the fact. In contrast to your statement, how would they know to trust you if you were paying after the fact? It's much easier to trust the person working at an establishment who answers to a mamsan than some random anonymous person who could disappear forever the second he walks out the door. Let's do the deed and then let me dig into my pocket only to have half of what I promised. Makes no sense for them.
Pretty sure if you read the reports in this section dating back to the boards inception that tipping beforehand is common practice.[/QUOTE]
By charging for FS upfront they are removing the uncertainty of whether you will turn out to be there only for HR or oral.
That is considerably less profitable for them.