Came up today ran into an old standby Sara at raceway. Had not seen in a long time street starting to take toll but still ok still has oral talent. Said she is mostly off Bradford now.
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Came up today ran into an old standby Sara at raceway. Had not seen in a long time street starting to take toll but still ok still has oral talent. Said she is mostly off Bradford now.
[QUOTE=SlitSlurper; 1417846]Good post Reddynaveen. It took a long time to read but a lot of things are clear to me now. This definitely gives me thorough insight and understanding what SWs are thinking in the mongering world. Anyone who didn't get it, go back and read it again. This is valuable intel.[/QUOTE]I completely agree having studied psychology at Marshall University in that SWs are like a Jackass chasing a carrot. I have used the aforementioned intel after watching Never Die Alone with DMX and have trained many SWs by luring them with money then giving them a little nose candy and switching the nose candy with heroin made to snort. After a while they get sick and call me to give them another carrot safeguarding me if I get busted in that there is no paper trail to follow. I grew up in the small town of Princeton, WV where I first learned to monger and see Charlotte as a disappointment when looking at the big picture and comparing the streetwalker reports to Philly.
It is definitely entertaining to read about one being tricked by a one handed SW, no pun intended, but in the grand scheme of things experience is the best teacher and it is nothing compared to having your car impounded and a criminal record that stays with your for life.
Hope you enjoy the following intel from SuperEloquent in Philly and that knowledge is power:
[quote]There is nothing "safe" about the touchy-feely dance either for you or for the SW. LE can touch and feel you, even lie and tell you they are not LE, even proposition you for a specific act at a specific price. If you say yes, you are busted. If you expect to raise an entrapment defense, make sure you have no prior busts for solicitation (which would indicate your "predisposition" to commit the crime, and would negate an entrapment defense). You might just win your case if your record is clean and you can explain why you are trolling the Ave and picking up strange women at midnight ("to give them a ride" might work once, and entrapment is a matter of interpretation of the circumstances. The more the "SW" had to convince you, the better your case. So saying no as a negotiation ploy is smart, IF you don't explain yourself too much; a real SW will probably try again, and an undercover will be flirting with entrapment by doing that, because you already said no and it starts to look like there was an inducement of someone who otherwise would not have committed the crime; better yet, have the offer and acceptance be without voice confirmation <I often do that: just proffer a gratuity, and do the deed; no verbal offer, no verbal acceptance, no verbal solicitation of price or activity.[/quote]Throw that touchy-feely dance out of your repertoire. If it makes the SW feel better, terrific. But it shouldn't put your mind at ease. NEVER, EVER negotiate a thing while she is still on the street and at your window and / or follow her around the corner to meet after such negotiation. You might get a nasty surprise. Have her get in and drive around for a while. Very few undercover LEOs posing as SWs will do that; it's just too risky, and possible that the backup tail will be shaken. Check regardless and make quite sure there is no tail. Do not discuss activity and price until you are certain you are driving without an LE backup tail. And for Pete's sake don't go to a place of her choice. Her backup could be waiting there or, worse yet, some dudes with large caliber "persuaders" to part you from your money, your valuables, your vehicle and / or your life.
Supply and demand
I used to teach grad school Economics and one of the first and abiding principles one learns is the law of supply and demand. This operates in any free market, and the SW market on the Ave is no exception. I was out and about yesterday and found as many SW dates as I could handle. They were all SWs I have previously reviewed, so, rather than give you reprise reports, I was thinking about why I always seem to have so much success finding talent on the Ave during the day (and even the early morning) when there are clearly many more on the street in the early to later evening. The answer seems to be pretty simple: there are far fewer mongers during the day as well. I have the flexibility to do that more often than not, and most mongers only have the after workday and evening time options available to them on a regular basis.
There are pluses and minuses to daytime mongering. There are fewer SWs but they tend to be available longer on the street, often long enough to circle around the block, or even come back 15 minutes later after you have checked the vicinity for other alternatives. I have had evening experiences where a monger makes a wild U turn right in the middle of K just to make sure he beats everyone to a SW he wants to pick up. That's just ridiculously unsafe from many angles, but reflective of the fact that many know from experience that if they don't take advantage of an opportunity right away that it will be gone very shortly thereafter because of the heavier monger traffic in the evening, and knowing that the one-ways and triangle street configurations off the K make it very difficult sometimes to make a simple turn around the block. In the evening (after rush hour) the traffic is far less and you can traverse the stroll in about half the time or less than in the day. But LE presence is much higher and you stand out more when trolling to LE posted on and watching the Ave, not to mention undercover. And you are much easier to tail in that light traffic, and observe picking anyone up on the Ave. During the day the vehicle and pedestrian traffic is much higher, it takes longer to travel the stroll and / or travel to indoor places like the Carlysle and to spot SWs among the civilians in more crowded areas (like around Somerset). And it is much more difficult to find a convenient open parking spot if you decide to do a little exploring on foot. But during the day it is easier to blend in both driving and walking, it is easier to be inconspicuous picking up a SW (many civilians are picking up friends, etc, from the many stores on the Ave) , it is somewhat safer in those neighborhoods, and you feel more assured parking your vehicle and knowing it is likely to still be there when you get back to it.
On balance I prefer daytime mongering, which is why I do it so much. The biggest drawback is variety. Many SWs who like days stick to them and vice versa. And since there are many more SWs in the evenings, you are more likely to experience a greater variety when you are lucky enough to find any. The day-timers include quite a few suburban gals who drive down to the Ave, leave their kids with Mom or a sitter, and are just looking to make some extra cash. They tend to be prettier, less hardened, more of a GFE and not hooked on drugs. The hardened druggies are apt to be out until all hours of the night and wee hours of the morning and are sleeping in until late afternoon or even later. There are some SWs who are out at all hours of the day and night, but it is the exception rather than the rule.
I don't feel that this report will open the floodgates of demand and ruin my good daytime gigs on the Ave. Most just don't have that kind of work / leisure flexibility. But if you have a day off sometime, try sampling from the other side of the buffet. It can be pretty appetizing.
Regular vs. Senior
Thanks for your favorable opinion and expression of gratitude.
To address your question: There are 2 simple requirements to become a senior member: membership on this forum for at least 6 months and at least 25 posts. You have to have both. While I am a long-time and experienced monger, I only joined this forum on 10/29/08, so I still have more than 2 months before I am even eligible for senior member status.
I started sharing my SW adventures and photos taken mostly to start cataloging them in writing. I don't think I have Alzheimer's yet, but if I tried to remember all the many SW trysts I have had over the years, it starts to boggle my mind as to whom, when, where and all the details. Posting them here was kind of a way to keep a record, although I try not to do repeat reviews of the same SW unless something significantly different happened or the experience was different, either good or bad. I am now also keeping a private diary of the same.
While reading this forum I became interested in and have written on many diverse general issues such as safety on the streets, the economics of pricing on the Ave, availability of SWs in various hours of the day and night, and legal issues such as avoiding LE and the intricacies of an entrapment defense, to name a few.
I don't post on here for "atta-boys," but I will have to admit that it is pleasant occasionally to get an appreciative posting such as yours and I thank you again.
I made a couple passes down the TH and R coming home from work last night, I seen no less than 6 workers. The one handed one mentioned on here a number of times. There was three standing together. Two skinny one of them very tall. I'd need to see these two in the daylight for a gender check. LOL. Further down on TH there was what I'd call a typical BSW walking, a little thick decent looks. I wasn't looking to monger just cking it out.
Be safe shopping guys.
A4
Not much of a report, but cruizin down Ind. Past the greenleaf and the citgo / exxon, when I saw a white spinner in a short pink skirt, was in the wrong lane to slow down and give her "my look", so I did the next worse thing, I honked the horn, of course she looks (everybody looks when you honk the horn) she didn't wave, but looked cute from a distance.
Any intel? I would like to know if my "monger street vibe" was right. LOL
I don't think I would blow the horn at them? I like to keep a lower profile than that. I never did like the quality of the SWers here in Charlotte so I gave up on them a long time ago. Good luck to you though.
QUOTE=Bouinage; 1427630]Not much of a report, but cruizin down Ind. Past the greenleaf and the citgo / exxon, when I saw a white spinner in a short pink skirt, was in the wrong lane to slow down and give her "my look", so I did the next worse thing, I honked the horn, of course she looks (everybody looks when you honk the horn) she didn't wave, but looked cute from a distance.
Any intel? I would like to know if my "monger street vibe" was right. LOL[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NC Transplant; 1427656]I don't think I would blow the horn at them? I like to keep a lower profile than that. I never did like the quality of the SWers here in Charlotte so I gave up on them a long time ago. Good luck to you though.
QUOTE=Bouinage; 1427630]Not much of a report, but cruizin down Ind. Past the greenleaf and the citgo / exxon, when I saw a white spinner in a short pink skirt, was in the wrong lane to slow down and give her "my look", so I did the next worse thing, I honked the horn, of course she looks (everybody looks when you honk the horn) she didn't wave, but looked cute from a distance.
Any intel? I would like to know if my "monger street vibe" was right. LOL[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]LOL! I know but I was out of ideas!
You could have tried it like the wild west days and get the rope and lasso out?
[QUOTE=Bouinage;1427835][/QUOTE]LOL! I know but I was out of ideas![/QUOTE]
Went rolling this morning just to see if anything was out, since I have to work late. Saw 1 WSW and BSW on SC near 85. The BSW looked like the "fat friend". The WSW was very pock marked, and almost looked like a he-she, so I passed. There was no other activity in that area or anywhere else for that matter. Apparently the cold and rain were enough to keep them in bed late. BP and CL are putting the SW scene out of biz. Except for the hard core, or those in need of a quick dollar. Clt. Hasn't been a "happening" town in over 15 years.
Are you talking about the Greenleaf on Monroe Road it says independence but the Greenleaf I know is on Monroe if so I have never seen anything up that high I have seen a few BSW down closer to town by or below Eastway but thats all but drive by it and will look.
[QUOTE=Bouinage; 1427630]Not much of a report, but cruizin down Ind. Past the greenleaf and the citgo / exxon, when I saw a white spinner in a short pink skirt, was in the wrong lane to slow down and give her "my look", so I did the next worse thing, I honked the horn, of course she looks (everybody looks when you honk the horn) she didn't wave, but looked cute from a distance.
Any intel? I would like to know if my "monger street vibe" was right. LOL[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rbw88;1432742]Are you talking about the Greenleaf on Monroe Road it says independence but the Greenleaf I know is on Monroe if so I have never seen anything up that high I have seen a few BSW down closer to town by or below Eastway but thats all but drive by it and will look.[/QUOTE]I guess I got the name wrong. Its the 5-7 story hotel, golden Green or Green something, right before the wendover exit on east bound independence. I haven't seen her since so she must have been a civie!
[QUOTE=BigDumbAnimal; 1425888]I completely agree having studied psychology at Marshall University in that SWs are like a Jackass chasing a carrot. I have used the aforementioned intel after watching Never Die Alone with DMX and have trained many SWs by...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the valuable intel BigDumbAnimal I was amazed how DMX trained women in Never Die Alone and how much valuable intel Reddynaveen has posted on his facebook wall.
Got 2 BSW around the westside. Back 2 back. .20 a pop. Got both #'s. One was a bbw 10 on SW scale. Thought it was 2 good 2 be tru. The other was a 6. Parked and got slopped up good.
Got 2 BSW around the westside. Back 2 back. .20 a pop. Got both #'s. One was a bbw 10 on SW scale. Thought it was 2 good 2 be tru. The other was a 6. Parked and got slopped up good. No leo in sight. Pm if you want info.
Went out early this morning before work. I hit 3 reliable parts on the western part of the city. Found one BSW on the svll. Didn't have time to be picky bt I didn't hav 2. 8 of 10 on SW scale.
Parked. Did the job. Nice about it. .10.15 will get you slopped. .20 for full contact activities. What I find intriguing is that most of the post are around the same time and the same HOT (as in leo always in area) spots.
The spots I have are never mentioned. I have a simple 10 minute loop that always works and a time period that always works. Good luck. Ps don't let these girls have your. They will bug you.
Came up today did the afternoon cruise started in the RF area and nothing happening so drove to sugar creek area and nothing at all so went back to the rf area and found nothing. Did spot 1 thin tall possible BSW down near Bradford went by a couple times but was with a guy most of the time. Not seen her before looked fairly good but did not pick up because of guy with her.