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As a businessman from Denmark who will soon be in Cincinnati (first two weeks in January), I would be most grateful to all fellow mongorers for some local Oh/Ky/Ind tips (I'd be happy to do the same for you if you ever make it to Copenhagen!). I have done quite a bit of research and have come up with some ideas but nothing really concrete as of yet. I can add that I know Cincy pretty well as I lived there about 15 years ago so no need to explain the neighborhoods though adresses are of course welcome. I should also state that I have no intention of chasing SW's from streets of Over-The-Rhine or West End.

Any more info regarding the following is sincerely appreciated.

1. Jessica's massage in Colerain- I'm convinced that she's hot but what's the adress/name of establishment. Is FS a possibilty? Send as PM if it feels better.

2. Cincinnati Exotics (Florence?)....not the hottest lot but one or two that caught my eye and nice prices.

3. Sexy Alex
[url]http://ohioharddrive.com/public/pages/sexyalex-template.htm[/url]

4. Amber
[url]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/adult/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=oid%3A341379&name=body%20rubs[/url]

5. Brandy
[url]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/adult/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=oid%3A350573&name=body%20rubs[/url]

6. Kendra
[url]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/adult/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=oid%3A326570&name=body%20rubs[/url]

7. Shawna
[url]http://www.escorts.com/viewprofile.asp?m=2089663[/url]

I check out quite regularly both CL and City Beat.....but also read that neither site is very reliable and many are in fact traps but perhaps some of you have met some worthy providers on these sites?

Is it worthwhile to check out the Dayton Strip Clubs....I'm going to want more than some lap dances.

Sorry for the long post but I'm quite frustrated with my research so far. Not looking for deals as much as quality.

Vill tackar Er alla helhjärtig för dem bästa förslag. Knulla på grabbar!
(just in case you're worried that I'm LE. Doubt any 'snutar' in Cincy speak the Nordic languages.)

Thanx,

Za Grand Wazoo

Cincinnati Exotics - I have heard mediocre reviews about them. They seem overall flakey and less than enthusiastic.

I would say the strip clubs are worthless. Obviously you are looking for more than a hardon and thats prolly all you are gonna get. Plus you would drop some serious cash.

I have had some "luck" with cl and citybeat but I guess it all depends on EXACTLY what you are looking for and what you want to spend.

Johnny

[QUOTE=Za Grand Wazoo]As a businessman from Denmark who will soon be in Cincinnati (first two weeks in January), I would be most grateful to all fellow mongorers for some local Oh/Ky/Ind tips (I'd be happy to do the same for you if you ever make it to Copenhagen!). I have done quite a bit of research and have come up with some ideas but nothing really concrete as of yet. I can add that I know Cincy pretty well as I lived there about 15 years ago so no need to explain the neighborhoods though adresses are of course welcome. I should also state that I have no intention of chasing SW's from streets of Over-The-Rhine or West End.

Any more info regarding the following is sincerely appreciated.

1. Jessica's massage in Colerain- I'm convinced that she's hot but what's the adress/name of establishment. Is FS a possibilty? Send as PM if it feels better.

2. Cincinnati Exotics (Florence?)....not the hottest lot but one or two that caught my eye and nice prices.

3. Sexy Alex
[url]http://ohioharddrive.com/public/pages/sexyalex-template.htm[/url]

4. Amber
[url]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/adult/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=oid%3A341379&name=body%20rubs[/url]

5. Brandy
[url]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/adult/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=oid%3A350573&name=body%20rubs[/url]

6. Kendra
[url]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/adult/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=oid%3A326570&name=body%20rubs[/url]

7. Shawna
[url]http://www.escorts.com/viewprofile.asp?m=2089663[/url]

I check out quite regularly both CL and City Beat.....but also read that neither site is very reliable and many are in fact traps but perhaps some of you have met some worthy providers on these sites?

Is it worthwhile to check out the Dayton Strip Clubs....I'm going to want more than some lap dances.

Sorry for the long post but I'm quite frustrated with my research so far. Not looking for deals as much as quality.

Vill tackar Er alla helhjärtig för dem bästa förslag. Knulla på grabbar!
(just in case you're worried that I'm LE. Doubt any 'snutar' in Cincy speak the Nordic languages.)

Thanx,

Za Grand Wazoo[/QUOTE]

Had a real good time with one of CL girl called Intrigue. Called up and setup convinent time to meet in one of the decent motel.She is the same as in picture,Very neat and clean.Showed real good time and paid $1.4.She also has listing in Eros.She said that she comes to Cinci quite often.

[url]http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/ers/251439000.html[/url]

Though this one worked out fine, most of the CL listing in cinci section is crap.

She is travelling to St.Louis and I was the last one to checkout.She had another girl friend waiting in the running car(In fact it was BMW,Good to note they are living good). They are on the way to St.Louis.This is her friend.Both are listed in Eros under St.Louis now.

[url]http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/ers/251627461.html[/url]

[QUOTE=JohnnyDoe]Cincinnati Exotics - I have heard mediocre reviews about them. They seem overall flakey and less than enthusiastic. Johnny[/QUOTE]

Actually, I have been with Britany of Cincinnati Exotics. This was before my move to another city. Overall, I had a fantastic time with Britany. She was beautiful, enthustiastic, and very very skilled at what she does. It was worth the $$ I shelled out for the experience.

Now, to the rest of the gang (Giani, Word, etc.)... MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! I hope you get your ho ho hos. :)

When I get back into town, we might have to share a beer.

I was with Brittany from Cincinnati Exotics once (in April of this year). She was rushed, hot in the face (but waaaay too much makeup), and she was kind of a flake. FS, though.

B

What a disappointing city. Roads are in terrible condition, cops patroling like the nazis, and no one, and I mean no one out this past weekend. I have been here since Friday. I put 300+ miles on my car cruising the streets. NOTHING.

I know it's Christmas weekend, but I would have figured I might have found one Jewish SW. LOL I think it would be easier to find a needle in a haystack then a sw on the streets of Cincinnati. I am so glad I left to another city 6 years ago. I can't imagine how bored you all are here. Craigslist offering 2-3 decent gals for top dollar. You can find 50+ girls for 1/2 the asking price in Detroit. In light of all of the other problems, the only thing Cincy has over Detroit (and I know since I have lived in both) is that Cincy finally has a decent football team (compared to the Lions).

Look me up in Detroit and I will show you the right place to go. Better yet, bring your passport and come to Windsor where it's legal and less than 1/2 the price.

Anyone ever check her out? Looks too good to be true!
[url]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/adult/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=oid%3A296310&name=body%20rubs[/url]

[QUOTE=Danw1234]Anyone ever check her out? Looks too good to be true!
[url]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/adult/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=oid%3A296310&name=body%20rubs[/url][/QUOTE]I sent her an e-mail but didn't get a response. I'd like to know if she's for real, too.

Was in downtown last week looking for some company. Drove through OTR for a while and then tried lower Price Hill. No luck, so went back to OTR. Saw a hot lsw, quickly turned around, and picked her up. I had been checking out another wsw, but liked the lsw better. She said her name was Jasmine. As we were leaving we drove by the wsw and Jasmine said hello to her. Turnes out, her name was Heather and it seems they were girlfriends for a while. Both girls were much better than average. .4 for fs with Jasmine. She claimed she didn't have digits but asked for mine. I said no, too dangerous. But, I'd love to see her, or Heather, the next time out.

Did a couple of circuits in OTR at lunch today. I saw three different county cruisers, two city cruisers, the city van, and a number of city bicycles. I also ran into something new, at least to me. Looks like they are using a white ford four-door with no exterior markings or lights. I noticed him when he pulled up behind me at a light, and I could see the two small square red and blue lights inside his windshield by the mirror. When he turned the corner, it looked like he did have a radio antenna on the back of the car, and appeared to be wearing a black uniform, so I'm guessing he was county.

Beyond that, I think I saw three wsw today. One with auburn hair looked pretty good, at least from a distance, but I wasn't about to stop today with that much activity roaming around.

Stay safe.

Hey all,

I have been seeing a lot of these "body rub" ads and I am wondering if they are legit or would just turn out to be an expensive waste of time. I did call one and had a good experience with a pretty cute, young blonde but I am wondering if that was the exception rather than the rule.

Please post or PM with any tips/advice/watch-outs. I would be happy to share what I know so far.

Thanks!

Spud

Things have been REALLY hot in OTR recently. With the following experience of a friend of mine from a week ago, it makes me leary to grace those streets these days... He asked that I post it for him, and not reveal his name.

This friend was in a vehicle from a county other than Hamilton (LE looks for out-of-county_cars). He, a white guy, was taking a black female out to a meal (not yet any contact--though it was most likely in the offing). Traveling down Elm, LE started trailing them. He is marking his laundry...

They turned towards Main, and LE flashes the lights. LE takes my friend into the squad car ("you are not under arrest...") while his partner questions the black girl in the vehicle. "What are you doing in this area? Why are you (a white guy) carrying a black girl in your vehicle? How do you know her? What is her full name? Don't you know that she is a known prostitute with a long record?" My friend says that he is taking her to get a meal, no $ exchanged, is that a crime? "You can still get arrested for hiring a prostitute, even with no money exchanged." [Is this correct???]

"Do you mind if we search your vehicle?" My friend, as most of us, seeing that saying "no" would wind up them both up at the precinct, says yes (hoping the girl is not carrying...). Luckily, no contraband was found. [Another lesson: do NOT be carrying when mongering...]

Bottom line, nothing was found, and LE told him (get this) "You don't want to get caught like this... Have them come to your place if you want to engage in this activity..." My friend was relieved. But I am pissed.

Sheesh. I personally have seen saturation coverage with LE, both city and county boys, as reported in several previous posts.

At the same time, I also have seen MANY SWs out there. But... be extremely careful, get the hell out of OTR, and preferably, cruise in areas less extremely hot than OTR for a while.

Sorry for the bummer post--but my friend had the sh*t scared out of him--and who knows what would have happened if she HAD been carrying???

Hoping for more pleasant posts and times,

Giani

This is response to Giani post #418.

One big mistake your friend made was giving consent to LE to search his car!
Again BIG BIG mistake and I'm sure some people will disagree with me on this point. Your friend was stopped because the LE were trying to find something to arrest your friend and or the girl he was with that day.

Another point to remember everyone, "NEVER BELIEVE COPS IF YOU GET PULLED OVER AND THEY JUST WANT TO TALK TO YOU".

Your friend was stopped and what is called being detained. Obvoiusly he wasn't pulled over for a driving violation.

LE can detain you only if they have reasonable suspicion that you are involved in a crime. Detention means that, though you aren't arrested, you can't leave. Detention is supposed to last a short time, and they aren't supposed to move you. During detention, the police can pat you down and go into your bag to make sure you don't have any weapons. They aren't supposed to go into your pockets unless they feel a weapon.

If LE are asking questions, ask if you are being detained. If not, leave and say nothing else to them. If you are being detained, you may want to ask why. Then you should say the Magic Words: "I AM GOING TO REMAIN SILENT. I WANT A LAWYER" and nothing else.

A detention can easily turn into arrest. If the police are detaining you and they get information that you are involved in a crime, they will arrest you, even if it has nothing to do with your detention. For example, if you gets pulled over for speeding (detained) and the cop sees drugs in the car, the cops may arrest you for possession of the drugs, even though it has nothing to do with you getting pulled over. Cops have two reasons to detain you: 1) they are writing you a citation (a traffic ticket, for example), or 2) they want to arrest you but they don't yet have enough information to do so.

Now it doesn't make sense what the LE said about it's against the law to hire a prostitute and there was no money involved!!!!!!! If you ever been in a sting or watched the tv show "COPS" it's all about money!!!!!! If a undercover female cop posed as a SW and you the monger drives up and say "$20 for whatever BJ, FS,etc" you are caught breaking the law.

Never say anything to a COP than your name and home address and info that identify you. Don't get caught with their lies and tricks to say something that could get yourself arrested.

SEARCHES

Never consent to a search. If the police try to search your house, car, backpack, pockets, etc. say the Magic Words 2: "I do not consent to this search." This may not stop them from forcing their way in and searching anyway, but if they search you illegally, they probably won't be able to use the evidence against you in court. You have nothing to lose from refusing to consent to a search and lots to gain. Do not physically resist cops when they are trying to search, because you could get hurt and charged with resisting arrest or assault. Just keep repeating the Magic Words so that the cops and all witnesses know that this is your policy.

Be careful about casual consent. That is, if you are stopped by the cops and you get out of the car but don't close the door, they can search the car and claim that they thought you were indicating consent by leaving the door ajar. Also, if you say, "I'd rather you didn't search," they can claim that you were reluctantly giving them permission to search. Always just say the Magic Words 2: "I DO NOT CONSENT TO THIS SEARCH."

Giani, your friend made a few mistakes and giving consent to a search was a big one. They were trying to find something to arrest him. If the girl was carrying drugs they probably taken them both in but if there was no search warrant and your friend tells them he dosen't consent then they can't use that against him in court. If he was by himself and got pulled over and all then it would be a different situation. But he didn't know if she was carrying therefore putting himself at risk if LE searches and find her carrying. She had time to drop any drugs under his seat before LE walked up to his car. Get the picture. Under his situation I would said no to the search and go through the hassle and protect my rights even if they make me wait for a warrant or take me to the police station.

Remember, anything you say to the authorities can and will be used against you and your friends in court. There's no way to predict what information the police might try to use or how they will use it. Plus, the police often misquote or lie altogether about what was said. So say only the Magic Words "I AM GOING TO REMAIN SILENT. I WANT A LAWYER" and let all the cops and witnesses know that this is your policy.

One of the jobs of cops is to get information out of people, and they usually don't have any scruples about how they do it. Cops are legally allowed to lie when they're investigating, and they are trained to be manipulative. The only thing you should say to cops, other than identifying yourself, are the Magic Words: "I AM GOING TO REMAIN SILENT. I WANT A LAWYER" And remember the Golden Rule: Never trust a cop.

Here are some lies they may tell you:

* "You're not a suspect -- just help us understand what happened here and then you can go."

* "If you don't answer my questions, I'll have no choice but to arrest you. Do you want to go to jail?"

* "If you don't answer my questions, I'm going to charge you with resisting arrest."

* "All of your friends have cooperated, and we let them go home. You're the only one left."

Cops are sneaky buggers, and there are lots of ways they can trick you into talking. Here are some scams they may pull:

* Good Cop/ Bad Cop: Bad cop is aggressive and menacing, while good cop is nice, friendly, and familiar (usually good cop is the same race and gender as you). The idea is bad cop scares you so badly you are desperately looking for a friend. Good cop is that friend.

* Prisoners' Dilemma: The cops will tell you that your friends ratted on you so that you will snitch on them. Meanwhile, they tell your friends the same thing. If anyone breaks and talks, you all go down.

* The cops will tell you that they have all the evidence they need to convict you, but that if you "take responsibility" and confess, the judge will be impressed by your honesty and go easy on you. What they really mean is: "We don't have enough evidence yet, please confess."

The Miranda Warnings

The police do not have to read you your rights (also known as the Miranda warnings). Miranda applies when there is (a) an interrogation (b) by a police officer of other agent of law enforcement (c) while the suspect is in police custody (you do not have to be formally arrested to be "in custody"). Even when all these conditions are met, the police intentionally violate Miranda. And though your rights have been violated, what you say can be used against you. For this reason, it is better not to wait for the cops to inform you of your rights or ask if you want to remain silent. You know what your rights are, so you can invoke them by saying the Magic Words, "I AM GOING TO REMAIN SILENT. I WANT A LAWYER"

LE was looking to make a bust and your friend was lucky that day. Did your friend called this girl and arranged to pick her up at so and so corner? Or did he drive by and saw her standing there and picked her up? LE is all over the place watching and it's hard to check around to see if anyone is watching you.

If you are in OTR have a good operating plan for driving through the area. Somethings I stop at a business and pretent to write down the address or stop to use my cell phone because I don't want to drive and talk on the phone at the same time, get it. I make stops at the Shell station for gas if I feel LE is following me on McMicken or Liberty St. During the summer I would stop and park near the "Lucy Blue" Pizza place on 12th and Walnut and meet SW near by out of my car. I can't be arrested or stopped by LE while eating pizza and talking to people, get it. Change the way you operate when looking for SW's. Have a city map in your car and you're looking at the area for a condo you're thinking about buying, get it. Have a plan if you do get stopped and more importantly KNOW YOUR RIGHTS!!!!!!
I speak from experience.
Don't believe cops if they want to stop and talk to you. They will do anything to make an arrest and let the city prosecutor decide your charges in court. If LE can scared you into confessing or saying something to get you arrested, they will do that any way they can.

Tell me what you guys think about all this because it's going to be like this for awhile in OTR.

BE CAREFUL AND STOP AND THINK ABOUT WAHT YOU WILL DO

Harop2U

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This is a POST that can NEVER be repeated enough !!!!
It was just posted again last Summer (06). The poster gave a web site to go to, to know your RIGHTS. It should be a part of the Header next to the Home and Forum buttons.

I have been Stopped before and I have NEVER EVER, consented to ever have my car search. Even when threatened by Cops that if I am not hidding anything, what harm is it. Or that they can have a drug dog down in 30 minutes to walk around the car. I still say NO !!! I don't do drugs so, there is nothing to hide, but I will never give up freely my constitutional right(s) regardless.

Ask any Attorney and they will tell you exactly the same. Ask the proper questions, as if you can leave. If you are being detailed or arrested
" KEEP QUIET" even if they say the girl told them everything. A decent Attorney can CRUSH that statement easily.

The Police are hoping you are Too Afraid and will talk, or the you don't know your right, because they will lie to you, or that you are just being a good citizen .... Yea, Right !!!!

That same goes for your Home as Will as your Car. Go on line to
Lexus Nexus ( I think that is the spelling ) and you can buy copies of The Ohio Search Warrant Laws, and the ALMIGHT .... Ohio Revised Code. Get two copies, one for your home the other for your car. And let the Cop know you wish to knowthe code he thinks your have violated. Watch how careful he will become as "NOT" to make a Mistake then.
This especially works for those City Wide small time Police Dept. like Arlington Heights, Reading, Norwood, Springfield/Springdale .... and alike.

If you can go to Finley Market, shop a little, so you have a decent accuse for being in the area, well at least during the day. At night stop at Ollies Troley for a bit to eat. It will cover a little, and Ollies has GooD food.

EVEN WILLIE CUNNINGHAM SAYS THE SAME ON HIS SHOW TIME TO TIME.
He is an Radio Idiot, but he still one damn Good Attorney.

G Man tell your Friend to buy the Book if he can, or go to someone law library.

HARPO YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE MONEY .... AGAIN !!!!



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[QUOTE=WordUp]
Lexus Nexus ( I think that is the speeling )
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Indeed you got that right - but "spelling" you did not... :)

But beyond all this legal advice below - I say - do not put yourself into the position were the Police even have to ask you to search anything. Then there is nothing to worry about.

If you get pulled over doing this hobby, then you need to stop doing it for awhile and reflect. You have done something to draw attention to yourself and thus the Police came into the picture. I have seen some mongers do some really dumb stuff out there, insofar as driving and the way they approach the girls. If you don't blend into the surroundings then you will stick out and the cops will have an interest in you.

Also be aware that the "Patriot Act" while the intent was to give Law Enforcement powers to fight terrorists, the same laws can be applied to any Americans and the definition of "probable cause" has been severely watered down.

Best thing to do if the Police pull you over is to only answer yes or no to questions and to cooperate. Do not offer information that is not asked for and keep you your mouth shut. Be polite. Do not agitate them or question them. Do not tell them how to do their job. If you do not have something to hide, then do not act as if you do. For me it is not a question of right or wrong or rights - it is a question of how long do you have sit there with them and go through that. For me - the answer is I want it over as soon as possible - thus, the less you prolong them the less time you will be there.

That is my word. :)