"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1838234]I haven't had a flake yet, where I showed up at the appointed time / place and they didn't.

I am curious, what were the ages of the flakes you guys encountered? However, I did experience a few instances where we were plan on meeting and they went dead silence the days leading up to the date. But then again I was asking them to drive over an hour to come see me, and these were the 18/19 yr olds.

I am working on a really hot looking HCB. 18yr, just graduated HS and moving to my town for college. She's about 2hr away from me at the moment, but when she moves here she'll be about 45min away. I am trying to get her to drive to me so I can sample the goods before she moves here for college which is end of month.[/QUOTE]Never got to the "no show" part. They flaked right at finalizing plans. Ages 18, 25, 25, 27. One I understand because she is still married, but the others were like ready to go and then nothing. So really more like your dead silence experiences. Guess it is time to rebuild the list of POTs.

[QUOTE=Mr Strict; 1838107]Another candidate for the list of flakes and game players: SA #1651878.

Been working her for a few weeks, everything was going very well and she was very anxious to meet. A time and place was agreed upon and everything was a go till just before the time I arrived. Did not answer the "I'm here" text, did not show and have not heard anything since. So why is this different than many of the other young flakes? She was much to willing and anxious to meet. All week she was anxious. And the place I picked to meet was not crowded at all so she was never there and left. She had no intent on showing.

Strict[/QUOTE]Mr. Strict

Thanks for letting me know. I was supposed to meet SA #1651878. I am glad to know as she stopped replying when I asked for place. One down.

I wish I can find the same pot #2 like you found. We are in the same area.

I like to share flakes or fake one profiles. I think this way we can save time and money.

KG

I found a girl on sd4me about 2 weeks ago that fit my demographic. A 21 year old AA HCB (5'5" 125) on summer break that lived nearby. I haven't done a m&g in about 2 months due to financial constraints and just seeing my regulars. I sent her my m&g letter and she sent me her phone number. I finally followed up yesterday. She had already dropped off the site and said she couldn't remember who I was when I first txted her.

After refreshing her memory she seemed eager as she took the train for 30 minutes to a nearby station. I took her to lunch and she agreed to a 2 hour session for a $. Right at that moment my daughter txted and said she needed to borrow my car to go to the doctor as hers was in the shop. This prevented me from being able to take her back to the train on time. We went back to the car and made out a little, she said I was cute and asked if she was a good kisser.

We agreed to meet later and I took her back to the train station. Later came and went. No txt. So she went from a definite lets do it, to MIA. That is the closest I have come to doing it and then not doing it. Shows you why following up so fast is so important. These newbie girls are very flighty and can get cold feet very fast. Quick follow up is so critical.

Another quick story. Last year I met another 21 year old AA girl, about a 7/8/9/10. We met about 6 times and banged like porn stars every-time. Suddenly she went MIA. I txted her a couple weeks ago and she told me she had some fond memories and then begged off. These things happen.

I'm still around. Life and work have been rather overwhelming. Fortunately I have my ATF back in the saddle, so life is good. I do have MsNurseBooty still in the harem, but seeing her less and less. After the extortionist, I've decided I'm never breaking up with another SB. I'll just be undependable and cheap and they will eventually leave me, LOL.

I do see both sides of the picture discussion. My own selfish reason for showing is to one, put some meat behind my stories and two since you guys are the only one that I share this lifestyle with, I look for the high-fives from my fellow brothers when I get a good score (Hey I can admit I have an ego). This can be hit or miss as not always do people actually comment on the photos.

I'll still say hello every now and then and by all means keep the stories cumming!

BT

The last several weeks have been interesting in that I haven't really gone on any of the SD sites that much, yet I have more pots that I can handle right now. I'm trying to keep my stable to just 2-3 SBs, but I've had several SB pots from out of the woodwork contact me in recent weeks.

Collegiate SB. This was my failed experiment from the late winter. I invested a lot and basically got nothing in return. I already mentioned she contacted me recently just "to chat". I played it cool and friendly, but made no effort to start anything up again. A week or two went by and then she contacts me in the middle of the night saying we can finally have sex if I give her x amount. It was short notice and the middle of the night, so it was a no-go. I followed up a couple of days later and offered her a lower amount. She declined for now, but in a 6 month period she went from NEVER willing to have sex to willing to give it up for the right price. Though she said she returned to me because I was a gentleman and not a creeper. A few months ago, I probably would have paid x amount to sleep with her, but since then I've found girls who I have much better chemistry with. So I have a take it or leave it attitude with her now. But with the current trajectory of things I imagine I'll sleep with her by the end of the year. She seems to be having more and more money issues while at the same time she's seems to be getting more willing to put out.

I've had several other pots txt or email me who saved my info from correspondences many months ago. I even did a OKCupid experiment 6 months ago and a little college hottie finally responded out of the blue the other day. I already made the sugar daddy pitch to her and she seems intrigued but wants to talk more for a while before deciding to forward or not. The nice thing about her is that she's fresh and hasn't officially joined the Sugar World. Depending how this goes I might revisit the OKCupid experiment.

Anyway, it's nice having all these residual babies. It's just too bad I don't really have the time or money to explore all of them. Just always remember that even if a potential arrangement breaks down in negotiations due to disagreements on allowance, just remain a gentleman and move on. Don't get huffy and pushy. Chances are she might contact you again after she's encountered numerous fakes, flakes, and creepers.

Will improve as college starts!

[QUOTE=KingGreg; 1837792]I did renew my SA membership and trying to find POTs. Met 1 at see-ville and little more out of my taste. After meet-and-greet, I was debating to go to next level but decided not to pursue. Reason, there are 2-3 potential pots.

I am supposed to meet someone. 2 hours drive but awaiting to get clearance. (received last message on Sunday). It's been challenging with new SBs (young) to get good reply. Sometimes, I feel cryptic message or never sure if I will ever see them.

Ohh well. Let's see have 1 more POT. Will see where I go.

Lot's in DC area. But just hate that much drive and traffic. Local crowd in Richmond is evaporating.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KingGreg; 1838325]Mr. Strict

Thanks for letting me know. I was supposed to meet SA #1651878. I am glad to know as she stopped replying when I asked for place. One down.

I wish I can find the same pot #2 like you found. We are in the same area.

I like to share flakes or fake one profiles. I think this way we can save time and money.

KG[/QUOTE]I also had many texts / emails with her and got to the details about the M&G. She flaked the day of the M&G and went dark. I see she is back on line. Either she (this type) is a fake baby or is extremely conflicted about doing this. Her pics show "her" to be my type of HCB. Maybe she is a frat bro or even a SD with a fake SB profile trying to get some research

[QUOTE=John G Smith;1838653]Anyway, it's nice having all these residual babies. It's just too bad I don't really have the time or money to explore all of them. Just always remember that even if a potential arrangement breaks down in negotiations due to disagreements on allowance, just remain a gentleman and move on. Don't get huffy and pushy. Chances are she might contact you again after she's encountered numerous fakes, flakes, and creepers.[/QUOTE]I have also had several residuals pop up of late. I'm on SA and have a generic pic up as a private photo. When a SB asks for a pic I grant permission for them to view it, or sometimes I just include permission with my initial email (haven't really seen a difference in response rates one way or another). Recently I went in and revoked permission to review the private photo to a bunch of girls that I never heard back from. When you do that the system sends them an email notifying them that the permission was revoked. That email has piqued some interest. Since then I have been contacted by two of the girls that had not previously responded, and one more has reviewed my profile. Trying to set up a M&G with one of those two now. I also just got a response to an email I sent out two months ago. You just never know what drives the girls to contact you when they do.

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1836045]I am not a lurker, so do I qualify to post? .

Finally a none HYM. Guess it's my luck that I've meeting with 3 HYMs the past couple months.

I am not a big fan of AA girls, but this cutie seems to have lots of potentials. 24, went to college, work, and has her own place.

Needs help with her $1500 rent.

Agreed on $175 weekly allowance for 2 FC visits per week. I'll update in a couple of days after our first FC date.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]266494[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]So the theme of this board the past couple of days is 'flake'. In the interest of keeping my post on topic, I am happy to report that this Pot turns out to be a flake.

We were supposed to meet today at noon. Yesterday morning we were still texting like crazy. By late afternoon, she stopped responding to texts. This morning, no response whatsoever from my texts and voicemail. She went completely silence about 18 hours before our date.

I will lay low and check back with her in a week to see what happened to her.

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1838953]So the theme of this board the past couple of days is 'flake'. In the interest of keeping my post on topic, I am happy to report that this Pot turns out to be a flake.

We were supposed to meet today at noon. Yesterday morning we were still texting like crazy. By late afternoon, she stopped responding to texts. This morning, no response whatsoever from my texts and voicemail. She went completely silence about 18 hours before our date.

I will lay low and check back with her in a week to see what happened to her.[/QUOTE]Ditto. My POT life in a nutshell. I must thank all the seniors who posted before in getting me ready for such behavior. I made sure I sent confirmation emails, no sugar before FC, and held a serious deep cover. The confirmation email is key because it does save a trip and paying for the FC. A big money-saver!

Hello brothers, I'm afraid I fall into the category of lurker, I read here regularly but haven't posted much because I haven't felt I had anything useful to add. I'm in " C'ville " and am happy to exchange or share any info or perspective, long time in the bowl, just not very active now. Anybody in the area please get in touch and hopefully something good will come along to share.

Thanks

[QUOTE=HappyHunter44;1838989]Ditto. My POT life in a nutshell. I must thank all the seniors who posted before in getting me ready for such behavior. I made sure I sent confirmation emails, no sugar before FC, and held a serious deep cover. The confirmation email is key because it does save a trip and paying for the FC. A big money-saver![/QUOTE]I never pay for the motel until we are in agreement in the parking lot outside.

Qn: Should I ask SB what they want as allowance or should I set my offer upfront?

I had a nice meet-and-greet with a good SB today. Lunch went well. There was no plan afterward as it was just M&G. At the end I asked the POT to send me expectation via email. It was double my offering. Didn't realize in my local area, comparatively small town, allowances are going upto 1k per meet. Uhh. I am either earning less or something is wrong with the market. Well. Even in DC, the asking are not that level. Anyway, I said thank you and putforward my offering. That's it.

Not many POTs. But still looking. My old pot is there as backup but want to see non MILF for once. Will keep posted. I need to learn about allowance offering and making attractive.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1839147]I never pay for the motel until we are in agreement in the parking lot outside.[/QUOTE]I have not got that far yet, but will do the same. Thanks.