Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;5107707]How much is she asking?[/QUOTE]I haven't quite gotten that far yet. I'm still vetting as far as how the meeting would go. I usually try to figure out the details of the meeting before I will discuss money.

[QUOTE=PaulRew;5107020]I have never paid more than $400 for an SB and then only if she hosts. Two or three years ago I would try and stay at or under $300, if a girl hosted she got the $300 if I got a room then I would try and get her in at $200-250. Currently I cap the maximum outlay at $400 applying the same thought process. You may think that $3-400 is way too much and that's your prerogative but I certainly don't considering what you get for that. Pretty hot, fit 20-35 year old usually educated and not taking 6 coocks a day. And did I mention multiple hours and almost always bare?[/QUOTE]Agree. As I had posted, I find $300 - $400 including hotel, maybe $450 on occasion if the little head takes control, is the sweet spot for SA. Except for "not taking 6 cocks a day" I would say not even taking 6 a week.

[QUOTE=DBag39;5107773]I haven't quite gotten that far yet. I'm still vetting as far as how the meeting would go. I usually try to figure out the details of the meeting before I will discuss money.[/QUOTE]Her profile totally looks "pro" - so asking about how the session would go probably will work.

With the non-pro girls we're also talking about recently in this thread, that's a tactic that often leads to nowhere. Because it makes them feel like they are being hired as a pro. They know what they're doing but they don't want to feel that way. When you cater to how they want to feel, you get what you want often at the price you want to pay.

[QUOTE=Bran001;5108389]Her profile totally looks "pro" - so asking about how the session would go probably will work.

With the non-pro girls we're also talking about recently in this thread, that's a tactic that often leads to nowhere. Because it makes them feel like they are being hired as a pro. They know what they're doing but they don't want to feel that way. When you cater to how they want to feel, you get what you want often at the price you want to pay.[/QUOTE]I usually ask not how it will go per se, I try to ask questions about what they like or don't like, how long can they "escape" the real world for, are they affectionate etc. She has a real job, but definitely seems to know the game. I'm guessing solid semi-pro.

[QUOTE=BigStu;5107571]Yes, well I know for most guys that's just asking for trouble or to be blackmailed. For me it doesn't matter no gf no wife no kids. When I do have a gf I don't hobby. The extra verification has paid dividends for me, makes ladies feel more secure that I am a real person. That verification thing does go both ways, they pop up in your add friends area but you also pop up in their add friends area, which means they can look at your profile. Again for me it's worked in my favor I've had one girl tell me after I popped up in her add friends area she saw I was real and looked fun and wanted to meet. Heck I have ran into friends with a sugar baby and I have ran into a sugar babies friends when out with them. No one ever blinks an eye, though one time I was with a lady my age and my buddy was like you feeling alright you don't see ladies your own age.

Also wanted to chip in on the rate talk. I think rates have seemed to stay the same over the years. I remember seeing girls 20 years ago like Pamala-Miami and Kira both in RI, Summer in Boston or Taylor Li in Philly or Brenda Love on Long Island and all of them wanted 300 to 500. Yes there were some gems on Craigslist you could find like Linda of Boston who was a regular I saw over 2 years and only charged 200 per hour, we became friends and actually did a 4 day vaca for 800. She also came to 2 work events with me, the company Christmas party and the Boston Symphony Orchestra with the Director of Engineering & VP of Sales and their wives. She was the talk of the company for 6 months and I got a raise 2 months later. My boss made it clear that having a wife or well liked gf was a sure way to raises and promotions in life. I have carried that advice to this day were my new fav sugar baby will make an appearance on the companies virtual Holiday party next week with the company paying for a bottle of bourbon & our dinner out the next night.

My feeling is that 20 years ago it was the wild west people didn't really understand what the new internet market would hold so 300 to 500 sounded good on finding a great looking woman on ********* or other spots. But then the internet exploded with lots of women and the market dropped in price. With the banning of some sites but newer sites like SA, WYP or SB growing larger the market is again realigning. You can find what you want on SA or SB you just need to put in the time, money and effort. My fav sugar baby right now wants 300 for a whole weekend and she's a knock out and amazing in bed. Time and effort and taking people out for meet and greets. I prefer lunch or drink meet and greets I find that taking them on a coffee meet and greet isn't good they feel you are a cheapskate. With lunch I can always bail out and say a work issue came up and with a drink meet and greet if the chemistry isn't there just down the drink pay and roll.[/QUOTE]Yah we travel in different worlds, as I do this all quite discreetly. My 'sugar' world is in a bubble rather isolated from the rest of my world.

I agree that on SA 300-500 absolutely hits the really fat part of the bell curve. Once I decided to try paying substantially more. A few years ago 800 for a 22 yr old whose pics were just sensational. She did have an amazing body, but the sex was rather plain and boring. So I learned from experience that price paid does not correlate to experience and satisfaction.

I'm at 400 PPM with my current SB. We started off assuming it'd be about twice a month, but now it's moved to every week and even twice some weeks. We've only been together for about a month; I have to figure out if I can renegotiate without screwing it up. She's pretty cool; and intelligent. I suspect it won't hurt to ask. And it's getting expensive as we've started adding in other girls (she's very bi and loves it).

The 400 ppm is certainly reasonable. However, are you now seeing her every week?

That would be 1600/ mo. Is that correct?

[QUOTE=Bran001;5109092]Yah we travel in different worlds, as I do this all quite discreetly. My 'sugar' world is in a bubble rather isolated from the rest of my world.

I agree that on SA 300-500 absolutely hits the really fat part of the bell curve. Once I decided to try paying substantially more. A few years ago 800 for a 22 yr old whose pics were just sensational. She did have an amazing body, but the sex was rather plain and boring. So I learned from experience that price paid does not correlate to experience and satisfaction.

I'm at 400 PPM with my current SB. We started off assuming it'd be about twice a month, but now it's moved to every week and even twice some weeks. We've only been together for about a month; I have to figure out if I can renegotiate without screwing it up. She's pretty cool; and intelligent. I suspect it won't hurt to ask. And it's getting expensive as we've started adding in other girls (she's very bi and loves it).[/QUOTE]

Located on the Cape, does not Host 400, covered FS but an accommodating and curves in the right places.

Does not play games like a lot of the other girls in the area seem to.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9ed1b8b8-79cd-4281-8660-f7ffba3cdbf5[/URL]

[QUOTE=JDeller;5109440]The 400 ppm is certainly reasonable. However, are you now seeing her every week?

That would be 1600/ mo. Is that correct?[/QUOTE]I was seeing one girl at 350 per visit every week. It adds up fast but I knew she was leaving for the military in a few months so I wanted to maximize my time with her. All BB and CIP, smoking hot 23 yo so it was an easy sell for me. I typically keep my payout at 300 but it is becoming more difficult to do that for the type of girls I pursue.

I have been getting a lot of hits this week as the Christmas rush is on but they keep saying they can't meet because of the Covid so I haven't spent any money but also have had any hotties.

My seeking account expired a couple days ago, I knew more girls would join during this time but I'll most likely end up renewing sometime in early January.

Do any of you guys know if this is Jenny the Masseuse in Acton?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fe5d8c47-cf43-428f-be92-76b390b8eb05[/URL]

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;5111211]Do any of you guys know if this is Jenny the Masseuse in Acton?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fe5d8c47-cf43-428f-be92-76b390b8eb05[/URL][/QUOTE]It is. There is some discussion of her in this thread way back, and the pictures are the same woman.

[QUOTE=Joe1223;5110380]I was seeing one girl at 350 per visit every week. It adds up fast but I knew she was leaving for the military in a few months so I wanted to maximize my time with her. All BB and CIP, smoking hot 23 yo so it was an easy sell for me.[/QUOTE]I would do the same. I could manage a short term dip into savings but not too long because of SO. This month on SA seems better than summer but not as good as before 2020. I made it to FC with one nice petite latina. I will write review if things don't pan out. She could be a keeper.

[QUOTE=JDeller;5109440]The 400 ppm is certainly reasonable. However, are you now seeing her every week?

That would be 1600/ mo. Is that correct?[/QUOTE]Yes I"ve been seeing her every week for the past month. It does add up, but it's super fun. Did a 3-some with a 22-yr old college girl she found online this week. You can't make this stuff up; when you find the right one you go all in. As we all know these things can end abruptly.

Where are all these girls. I'm jist getting a bunch of ghosts. Do you point blank say I'm looking for a ppm this is what I'll give you or romance a bit. I keep finding crack heads and GPS 😂.

[QUOTE=LordOfThEeyes;5111491]Where are all these girls. I'm jist getting a bunch of ghosts. Do you point blank say I'm looking for a ppm this is what I'll give you or romance a bit. I keep finding crack heads and GPS 😂.[/QUOTE]They are there. The crackheads you can tell just from the profiles and photos. I don't even message them and if they message me I ignore.

GPS you can often tell from the profiles too.

The ghosts happen. A high percentage of decent initial conversations turn into ghosts. It's the cost of doing business here.

The girls I aim for and get want to be treated like real people, not pieces of meat or hookers. Yah at a basic level they are hookers but if you talk to them the way they want, you get what you want. They know what they're doing; many are INTO the kink of it. But they aren't putting themselves out there like STG or Eros girls and if you treat them like those girls they aren't going for it.