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I noticed after being on and off seeking for a year or so that the girls that ask between 250 and 400 are the best. All girls imo that I spoke with who wanted 500 or more have a trash personality and are limited in the bedroom. There is imo no reason to be spending 500 or more. All the girls that I saw for the rate I mentioned are banging and chill. There might be exceptions but still imo no reason for 500 or more unless she's bringing a friend.
[QUOTE=GianniVersace;5106460]Guys I have been on SA for about 5 days now. Here are my observations. STOP OFFERING SB's crazy money. If you keep giving them crazy money than that is what they expect. I have interacted with so many women that have said that is what they are getting from you other SD's that they are not lowering their pricing. Come on guys. Supply & Demand. We can collectively set the pricing if everyone is paying the same thing. I mean honeslty how many of you guys can really afford to pay $500 per meet? Really guys?[/QUOTE]First and foremost, nothing you post here will affect what the SB's ask or get, it just doesn't work that way. I have found that in the last two years the financial expectation of the girls has gone up. You either adapt or you get left behind. I have never paid more than $400 for an SB and then only if she hosts. Two or three years ago I would try and stay at or under $300, if a girl hosted she got the $300 if I got a room then I would try and get her in at $200-250. Currently I cap the maximum outlay at $400 applying the same thought process. You may think that $3-400 is way too much and that's your prerogative but I certainly don't considering what you get for that. Pretty hot, fit 20-35 year old usually educated and not taking 6 coocks a day. And did I mention multiple hours and almost always bare?
So GV, I assume you read a ton of the thread and have seen the $300 number mentioned often, so what are your expectations?
[QUOTE=PaulRew;5107020]First and foremost, nothing you post here will affect what the SB's ask or get, it just doesn't work that way. I have found that in the last two years the financial expectation of the girls has gone up. You either adapt or you get left behind. I have never paid more than $400 for an SB and then only if she hosts. Two or three years ago I would try and stay at or under $300, if a girl hosted she got the $300 if I got a room then I would try and get her in at $200-250. Currently I cap the maximum outlay at $400 applying the same thought process. You may think that $3-400 is way too much and that's your prerogative but I certainly don't considering what you get for that. Pretty hot, fit 20-35 year old usually educated and not taking 6 coocks a day. And did I mention multiple hours and almost always bare?
So GV, I assume you read a ton of the thread and have seen the $300 number mentioned often, so what are your expectations?[/QUOTE]Got to agree with PaulRew here. This discussion has gone on online since the big doggie started 20 years ago. GV, I am surprised that, with your experience, you would actually think "We can collectively set the pricing if everyone is paying the same thing. ". Really?
[QUOTE=BigStu;5106507]BarbieJo143 - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3108bf2b-619e-4e59-b012-4788b913179b[/URL] I saw her a few months back. She can't host, isn't on the birth control but will allow BB. Fake tits. She was fun but we just didn't click the passion wasn't there. It was 200 for about an hour. She likes going out and having fun, so keep in mind she wants an arrangement that's more than just being physical but eating out or going out for drinks regularly. Took 2 meet and greets to get to the point of the hotel room.
The_Harliquinn - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/459c57ff-5622-41df-8ee7-1027f420e735[/URL] Nice girl. She told me she was picky who she meets. She's a little larger than I like but she's not fat. I just like skinny girls. BB was fine on birth control. Wants between 300 and 400 I gave her 325. It was a little bit of a rush job we talked for 1. 5 but only did 30 min if that in bed. Just no sparks in bed.
Bratnee30 - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b7346c52-032e-4566-bb80-06515d9b89c6[/URL] She is really pretty. Great body. Did a meet and greet really connected. She wants 400 to 500 each time. BB was fine, though she told me she is careful who she allows to go BB. But her kitty felt amazing to be inside bare. Making our schedules work has been tough so I kind of gave up, the time I saw her I had a day off work & my plans fell through & I think she texted me. But she was great, a lot of fun in bed, clean nice tasting kitty. Soft skin. Would definitely see again.
ExoticVic - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/951f2674-2b4f-4884-873e-051a3645136e[/URL] Really nice girl, fun to be with, she's gorgeous. We have done 2 meet and greets. We talked about price and she said her old sugar daddy gave her 1200 each visit. I threw out 800 and she said she'd be comfortable with that. But I haven't really felt like spending that much. She has come back saying she wants to meet up for drinks and discuss a number that works better so I will probably end up seeing her if she comes down to 400 or maybe 500. Really attractive girl but I can tell she'll be high maintenance. Our 1st meet and greet she picked the place and I spent close to 160 for drinks & apps and it was half priced apps.
FitAsian99 - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b9aa1647-d6f8-41cf-b764-de6857bf0814[/URL] Cool girl, great body, really nice. We did a meet and greet some decent chemistry. Not on birth control though she said she was thinking of getting an IUD. She wants 500 & expects to be taken out for dinner also. I think with her, she doesn't need the extra money but she likes it so she can be firm on the price.
Akwardlyamusing - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/55f4c4f3-40c3-4dd0-a035-9d1c2fc6392e[/URL] Nice girl, a little thicker than I like but I still might see her. We did a meet and greet, got along well. Wants 300 for a visit with her. Can host.
Caseycowgirl - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5f4d32ef-07c0-488f-aac1-4648e9ccb276[/URL] Attractive girl, great attitude. We didn't talk numbers but she made it clear that she wanted to meet platonically for a few times until she was comfortable for more. We had a big activity in common. We texted for about a week after, even planned a get together & then she went dark a few days before. Later told me she decided she just wasn't interested. I think she decided our common activity had to much overlap & maybe found some friends in common so it was too big a risk for her.
Rosielovesaugar - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d7a018f6-4bf4-49b3-9a30-2f9559a9be08[/URL] has anyone seen her? We have talked a few times, her old sugar daddy gave her 800 but she said shed do 500. I offered 300 once and she said no but a week later said come by for 500. Can host and will do bare.
SparkleSeduction - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d10e19fa-5d61-4c45-97b3-0104c8c683df[/URL] has anyone seen her? We have talked a few times, can host wants 300. Not on birth control but will allow BB. I told her my pull out game was weak & she said not to worry she wasnt ovulating. LOL that's a little worrying unless she was being serious.
So I'm taking a break from seeking for awhile, I have found 3 ladies (I didn't write about) I really like and Brittany if our schedules ever work again. All 3 are about chemistry and the experience not just the money. Which works great for me, I like having a partner for snowboarding or hiking or going out to dinner. 300 for a whole weekend works great for me. Though I will probably have to whittle it down to 2, financially. One of them is looking to do a 3 some and to see other guys also so I'd consider sharing her link if you have a good trade.
Also, I have noticed if you have verified your FB profile on SA and talk to a lady regularly on SA and she has FB eventually she will pop up in your friends recommendation for FB. For some of you married guys that could be really bad news. For me it's not a big deal and its nice to see if a girls actually legit and her non SA pics. But something to be wary of if you need discretion.[/QUOTE]Truly outstanding and informative post!
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I usually stick to AMPs in central mass, but when it's bonus time at work I like to dabble a little with sa. I usually stick to the Worcester area, but this one reached out and we're talking details. Any insight before I pull the trigger?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a33d9402-cefe-4566-a026-cf765b2a9d31[/URL]
[QUOTE=Spill;5107041]Got to agree with PaulRew here. This discussion has gone on online since the big doggie started 20 years ago. GV, I am surprised that, with your experience, you would actually think "We can collectively set the pricing if everyone is paying the same thing. ". Really?[/QUOTE]Spill Exactly. Agree to Disagree. You are correct here. I do have a lot of experience. I am just simply saying that with the way things are going it would not take a while until another Captain Saves a Hoe comes along and starts offering $800 PPM which would then create the new norm. Come on All. We are in a Pandemic. So many people have lost their jobs. Think about it. If there are no customers than the provider will take less. That's how it works. Economics Supply and Demand. Why do you think rent prices in Boston are dropping? So many people are moving out of the city which will then create more supply and then you pay less. Same Same.
[QUOTE=PaulRew;5107020]First and foremost, nothing you post here will affect what the SB's ask or get, it just doesn't work that way. I have found that in the last two years the financial expectation of the girls has gone up. You either adapt or you get left behind. I have never paid more than $400 for an SB and then only if she hosts. Two or three years ago I would try and stay at or under $300, if a girl hosted she got the $300 if I got a room then I would try and get her in at $200-250. Currently I cap the maximum outlay at $400 applying the same thought process. You may think that $3-400 is way too much and that's your prerogative but I certainly don't considering what you get for that. Pretty hot, fit 20-35 year old usually educated and not taking 6 coocks a day. And did I mention multiple hours and almost always bare?
So GV, I assume you read a ton of the thread and have seen the $300 number mentioned often, so what are your expectations?[/QUOTE]I have arrangements scheduled this week so will write back next week on my expectation vs reality.
And just an FYI I would say 70% of the time when I monger I get bare. It really all depends on the connection you have with the provider and not be a douche bag. Just my 2 cents.
Funny this subject is popping up now. After countless attempts to meet a good looking youngish girl on stg I have found that pretty much 1 in 50 tries will get you what your looking for. I mean I am talking a real decent looking younger girl. If you do find one on stg it's almost a guarantee the is some heavy usage going on.
I have had previous success on sa. Pretty much my best 3 or 4 girls all pretty much came from there. After too many wasted tries with stg I took to sa again. Just like the previous posts state boy is it a tough scene out there price wise. Admittedly I'm only looking for in shape hot chicks but this is leading me down the 500 path. That really hurts. I have found a couple in the 3 range also. But of course the one I want to see is 4-5. Like other previous posts also state there is not much we can do about it. I can put my foot down and not see these girls but for sure someone with deeper pockets will slide in the dms with 5 large. In the end it's just a plain bummer. LOL.
[QUOTE=NineIron;5107368]Funny this subject is popping up now. After countless attempts to meet a good looking youngish girl on stg I have found that pretty much 1 in 50 tries will get you what your looking for. I mean I am talking a real decent looking younger girl. If you do find one on stg it's almost a guarantee the is some heavy usage going on.
I have had previous success on sa. Pretty much my best 3 or 4 girls all pretty much came from there. After too many wasted tries with stg I took to sa again. Just like the previous posts state boy is it a tough scene out there price wise. Admittedly I'm only looking for in shape hot chicks but this is leading me down the 500 path. That really hurts. I have found a couple in the 3 range also. But of course the one I want to see is 4-5. Like other previous posts also state there is not much we can do about it. I can put my foot down and not see these girls but for sure someone with deeper pockets will slide in the dms with 5 large. In the end it's just a plain bummer. LOL.[/QUOTE]So Speaking of Rates Just out of curiosity for any of you mongers who used to see Jenna from Lowell before she got FAT what were you paying her? I was paying her $150 ppm.
[QUOTE=Hobbyist420;5106748]Yo, that's fucked up.
Another reason not to link FB to these sites. Shit, another reason to not have FB in general.[/QUOTE]There is NO WAY I'd link FB to SA.
[QUOTE=Bran001;5107473]There is NO WAY I'd link FB to SA.[/QUOTE]Yes, well I know for most guys that's just asking for trouble or to be blackmailed. For me it doesn't matter no gf no wife no kids. When I do have a gf I don't hobby. The extra verification has paid dividends for me, makes ladies feel more secure that I am a real person. That verification thing does go both ways, they pop up in your add friends area but you also pop up in their add friends area, which means they can look at your profile. Again for me it's worked in my favor I've had one girl tell me after I popped up in her add friends area she saw I was real and looked fun and wanted to meet. Heck I have ran into friends with a sugar baby and I have ran into a sugar babies friends when out with them. No one ever blinks an eye, though one time I was with a lady my age and my buddy was like you feeling alright you don't see ladies your own age.
Also wanted to chip in on the rate talk. I think rates have seemed to stay the same over the years. I remember seeing girls 20 years ago like Pamala-Miami and Kira both in RI, Summer in Boston or Taylor Li in Philly or Brenda Love on Long Island and all of them wanted 300 to 500. Yes there were some gems on Craigslist you could find like Linda of Boston who was a regular I saw over 2 years and only charged 200 per hour, we became friends and actually did a 4 day vaca for 800. She also came to 2 work events with me, the company Christmas party and the Boston Symphony Orchestra with the Director of Engineering & VP of Sales and their wives. She was the talk of the company for 6 months and I got a raise 2 months later. My boss made it clear that having a wife or well liked gf was a sure way to raises and promotions in life. I have carried that advice to this day were my new fav sugar baby will make an appearance on the companies virtual Holiday party next week with the company paying for a bottle of bourbon & our dinner out the next night.
My feeling is that 20 years ago it was the wild west people didn't really understand what the new internet market would hold so 300 to 500 sounded good on finding a great looking woman on ********* or other spots. But then the internet exploded with lots of women and the market dropped in price. With the banning of some sites but newer sites like SA, WYP or SB growing larger the market is again realigning. You can find what you want on SA or SB you just need to put in the time, money and effort. My fav sugar baby right now wants 300 for a whole weekend and she's a knock out and amazing in bed. Time and effort and taking people out for meet and greets. I prefer lunch or drink meet and greets I find that taking them on a coffee meet and greet isn't good they feel you are a cheapskate. With lunch I can always bail out and say a work issue came up and with a drink meet and greet if the chemistry isn't there just down the drink pay and roll.
[QUOTE=BigStu;5106507]BarbieJo143 - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3108bf2b-619e-4e59-b012-4788b913179b[/URL] I saw her a few months back. She can't host, isn't on the birth control but will allow BB. Fake tits. She was fun but we just didn't click the passion wasn't there. It was 200 for about an hour. She likes going out and having fun, so keep in mind she wants an arrangement that's more than just being physical but eating out or going out for drinks regularly. Took 2 meet and greets to get to the point of the hotel room[/QUOTE]Talk about spending. You paid a girl $800?
[QUOTE=BigStu;5107571]Yes, well I know for most guys that's just asking for trouble or to be blackmailed. For me it doesn't matter no gf no wife no kids. When I do have a gf I don't hobby. The extra verification has paid dividends for me, makes ladies feel more secure that I am a real person. That verification thing does go both ways, they pop up in your add friends area but you also pop up in their add friends area, which means they can look at your profile. Again for me it's worked in my favor I've had one girl tell me after I popped up in her add friends area she saw I was real and looked fun and wanted to meet. Heck I have ran into friends with a sugar baby and I have ran into a sugar babies friends when out with them. No one ever blinks an eye, though one time I was with a lady my age and my buddy was like you feeling alright you don't see ladies your own age.
Also wanted to chip in on the rate talk. I think rates have seemed to stay the same over the years. I remember seeing girls 20 years ago like Pamala-Miami and Kira both in RI, Summer in Boston or Taylor Li in Philly or Brenda Love on Long Island and all of them wanted 300 to 500. Yes there were some gems on Craigslist you could find like Linda of Boston who was a regular I saw over 2 years and only charged 200 per hour, we became friends and actually did a 4 day vaca for 800. She also came to 2 work events with me, the company Christmas party and the Boston Symphony Orchestra with the Director of Engineering & VP of Sales and their wives. She was the talk of the company for 6 months and I got a raise 2 months later. My boss made it clear that having a wife or well liked gf was a sure way to raises and promotions in life. I have carried that advice to this day were my new fav sugar baby will make an appearance on the companies virtual Holiday party next week with the company paying for a bottle of bourbon & our dinner out the next night.
My feeling is that 20 years ago it was the wild west people didn't really understand what the new internet market would hold so 300 to 500 sounded good on finding a great looking woman on ********* or other spots. But then the internet exploded with lots of women and the market dropped in price. With the banning of some sites but newer sites like SA, WYP or SB growing larger the market is again realigning. You can find what you want on SA or SB you just need to put in the time, money and effort. My fav sugar baby right now wants 300 for a whole weekend and she's a knock out and amazing in bed. Time and effort and taking people out for meet and greets. I prefer lunch or drink meet and greets I find that taking them on a coffee meet and greet isn't good they feel you are a cheapskate. With lunch I can always bail out and say a work issue came up and with a drink meet and greet if the chemistry isn't there just down the drink pay and roll.[/QUOTE]Big Stu you are a wise man, How old are you and what industry are you in? Lunch and drinks is actually a good plan. Have you ever dated a sb like a girlfriend?
[QUOTE=DBag39;5107251]I usually stick to AMPs in central mass, but when it's bonus time at work I like to dabble a little with sa. I usually stick to the Worcester area, but this one reached out and we're talking details. Any insight before I pull the trigger?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a33d9402-cefe-4566-a026-cf765b2a9d31[/URL][/QUOTE]How much is she asking?