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[QUOTE=HappyDave;3013668]When you walked in cheaters just before you entered the gadiva room and before the stairs to the second floor there was a large closet. Every now and then the door was left open and you could see all the monitors for the cameras.[/QUOTE]So does any body know if the current incarnation of Cheaters (Wild Zebra) has booth cameras?
[QUOTE=Lips1963;3013691]So does any body know if the current incarnation of Cheaters (Wild Zebra) has booth cameras?[/QUOTE]I don't think there are cameras in the cubicles at WZ since they are open with no doors. The idea of the cameras in the booths is for the protection of the girls and also the customers and of course privacy. Another words if she stole your wallat or your money or if you tried to steal her belongings or money etc. They have more than just he said she said and various other reasons sort of like the cops and public having cameras and cell cameras etc. These days it seems like no matter where you go or what you do someone has you on camera.
[QUOTE=RogerMoris;3010399]Not surprised at all this happened at CZ. That place is a cesspool. A buddy of mine went there one time and it was a bad enough experience that I'll never go again.
We get there and the place is quiet but it's early evening so whatever. There's one horrid looking girl on the main stage so we go upstairs and there's a cracked out ghetto hoe on the stage. We sit down way in the back because standing around would've been awkward and she literally starts yelling at us from the stage to come over.
Yeah, I'm all set.
You couldn't pay me to go there.[/QUOTE]I was there a couple of months ago. A dancer got in an argument with somebody, stormed into the dressing area and smashed a bottle. I went to find security so they could de-escalate it before someone got hurt. There was no one around. The only male employees were the DJ and the guy at the door, and he wasn't at the door. It took a while for him to come back from wherever, at which point I told him and he got a broom to clean up the bottle. A crazy ***** could have killed someone and left the building in all that time. The place is small, devoid of meaningful security, and seems to have a clientele darker and potentially more dangerous (it's a fact, just go to the DOJ stats) than other clubs.
Also, There was only one thin attractive dancer.
[QUOTE=YoungInRi;3013397]I don't mean to sound naive but there are cameras in CD? I can tell that there are definitely extras going on there. So are the girls unaware of the cameras or do they just not care? And I'm assuming the club owners don't care what the girls are doing, but what is the point of keeping incriminating footage like that?[/QUOTE]Not only are there cameras in CD's but as I said below there are over 30 of them, I believe it is 36 cameras in all and yes the girls definitely know about the cameras and yes the girls care because they know that if they get caught doing anything wrong such as drugs or stealing they will be fired instantaneously! I don't think the clubs really care too much about what they are actually doing as far as extras because the club makes money every time a CR is utilized. They basically just want to maintain law and order, LOL.
[QUOTE=Ralphy3456;2999297]Other than the clubs in New York Scores does not own any clubs. Scores is a licensed name. Neither the ownership or management of the Cadillac has changed. I would guess nothing has changed from the running of it as well. The addition of the name "Scores presents" is an attempt to attract more business.[/QUOTE]At least according to a dancer who said she worked at CL until a couple of months ago, you are correct. The Caddy owner bought a franchise so he can use the Scores name. Same owner same staff just a new "Scores, presented by the Cadillac Lounge" marketing line.
[QUOTE=iamioman;3014872]At least according to a dancer who said she worked at CL until a couple of months ago, you are correct. The Caddy owner bought a franchise so he can use the Scores name. Same owner same staff just a new "Scores, presented by the Cadillac Lounge" marketing line.[/QUOTE]Just to be correct. Scores is not a franchise. The owner of the Cadillac signed on to give Scores Holdings a percentage of his gross sales for the privilege of using the name. It's the same as the naming rights on a stadium. The difference is, as stated, the payoff is a one time fee and then a percentage of the gross from then on. Scores has different levels of involvement. The Cadillac choose the least priced "Scores Presents". If they had called it just Scores the payoff would have been a lot more. The same deal holds true for Penthouse clubs, Hustler clubs and so on.
Between all the different ways to get pussy, the strip joint is the biggest a waste of money in my opinion. I have had some fun in Providence before the law changed and after but probably not in a year or so. I am not made of money so that is always a concern. But there are just not that many smoke shows that can demand top dollar while paying the house to go into a booth 415 minutes. The lapdance is the biggest scam and I still don't know why guys even go for it. Talk about a waste as you get nothing maybe a little roaming. Then the up sell starts. If I was rolling with a grand in my pocket and could peel it off no problem then it would not be an issue. But money aside what you get for what you actually shell out is not worth it. Obviously the guys who are frequent participants will disagree with me or perhaps not. Just my opinion and curious as to others. Those know how to work the game.
[QUOTE=Sputty;3016627]Between all the different ways to get pussy, the strip joint is the biggest a waste of money in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Agreed, and the reason I rarely go to strip clubs. Funny thing is, I still remember my very first lap dance, many, many, many years ago; a club in Oklahoma, and the girl's stage name was Angel.
[QUOTE=Sputty;3016627]Between all the different ways to get pussy, the strip joint is the biggest a waste of money in my opinion. I have had some fun in Providence before the law changed and after but probably not in a year or so. I am not made of money so that is always a concern. But there are just not that many smoke shows that can demand top dollar while paying the house to go into a booth 415 minutes. The lapdance is the biggest scam and I still don't know why guys even go for it. Talk about a waste as you get nothing maybe a little roaming. Then the up sell starts. If I was rolling with a grand in my pocket and could peel it off no problem then it would not be an issue. But money aside what you get for what you actually shell out is not worth it. Obviously the guys who are frequent participants will disagree with me or perhaps not. Just my opinion and curious as to others. Those know how to work the game.[/QUOTE]I love a good lap dance so, to me, they are worth it. I'm a married man and won't cheat on my wife (Who is OK with me going to the club) but the lap dances are a nice fantasy for when boredom happens and trolling the escort boards gives me a little thrill so I do.
I may one day partake but it won't be until my wife and I have a hall pass in place (She says she's game as we've discussed it before but I don't like the idea of her banging other dudes.) But, yeah man, it's a fun fantasy for some of us.
[QUOTE=Sputty;3016627]The lapdance is the biggest scam and I still don't know why guys even go for it. Talk about a waste as you get nothing maybe a little roaming. [/QUOTE]Either you're doing it wrong or she's doing it wrong.
[QUOTE=RICheeseHead;3017787]Either you're doing it wrong or she's doing it wrong.[/QUOTE]I have had plenty of dances and some really good. I am just saying that 425 bucks a popthe money could be better spent. You can go up to pervert row and catch the chick for 3 songs, water dance aroundand be right in your face at least a few times depending on how many guys are there. I know the mass clubs in Rhode Island are different as far as contact. In Rhode Island the stage is more of a place to set up the private entertainment whereas in Mass they work the stage but will hit you up later at the bar for the VIP room or a lap dance or whatever. Perhaps we will just agree to disagree.
[QUOTE=Sputty;3016627]Between all the different ways to get pussy, the strip joint is the biggest a waste of money in my opinion. I have had some fun in Providence before the law changed and after but probably not in a year or so. I am not made of money so that is always a concern. But there are just not that many smoke shows that can demand top dollar while paying the house to go into a booth 415 minutes. The lapdance is the biggest scam and I still don't know why guys even go for it. Talk about a waste as you get nothing maybe a little roaming. Then the up sell starts. If I was rolling with a grand in my pocket and could peel it off no problem then it would not be an issue. But money aside what you get for what you actually shell out is not worth it. Obviously the guys who are frequent participants will disagree with me or perhaps not. Just my opinion and curious as to others. Those know how to work the game.[/QUOTE]People have different opinions, different tastes and are looking for different things. I like the strip club option. I don't have time to spend getting stood up by BP girls and don't like taking chances on unknown quantities (Looks, boyfriends, drugs, demeanor, LE etc). At the SC I can pick out the girl I want, take her for a little preview lap dance and if we don't vibe I'm only out $25. If we do vibe, then I'm going to negotiate and get a hot girl for a good rate. I know that whatever happens I'm unlikely to get robbed or arrested.
Keep that up and you can reach a point where you are seeing girls outside the club for even lower rates. It takes a little investment but with with even the slightest effort (and following Cadillacock's teachings) it can work out better. But that's just my opinion.
[QUOTE=XBingoX;3019176]People have different opinions, different tastes and are looking for different things. I like the strip club option. I don't have time to spend getting stood up by BP girls and don't like taking chances on unknown quantities (Looks, boyfriends, drugs, demeanor, LE etc). At the SC I can pick out the girl I want, take her for a little preview lap dance and if we don't vibe I'm only out $25. If we do vibe, then I'm going to negotiate and get a hot girl for a good rate. I know that whatever happens I'm unlikely to get robbed or arrested.
Keep that up and you can reach a point where you are seeing girls outside the club for even lower rates. It takes a little investment but with with even the slightest effort (and following Cadillacock's teachings) it can work out better. But that's just my opinion.[/QUOTE]I agree with Bingo. I've mentioned on here a few times that I'm underwhelmed with the quality of talent on backpage. Strip clubs provide much higher quality for the most part. The downside is that it isn't as easy as making a phone call.
Very well put and very valid points. Cannot disagree with any of what you said. I do like the idea of being able to get some takeout with a hot chick from the club at a possible cheaper rate but have not put in the effort and that is my fault. I think I was more coming from the point of first buying to chick some overpriced drink, not that you have to but you know what I'm saying. Then spending money on the dance then having to pay the house to go to the booth and then paying the girl. And I have been with some hot ones in the club. But would look at the money that was spent for banging some girl in a booth or on a couch for 15 minutes just didn't seem to add up. But everything you said about being able to pick the girl knowing what you're getting not getting ripped off pimps Etc is dead on. As a matter of fact I think I will try to put that into practice. If you happen to know any girls who don't mind their info being given out I would be open to that as well. I used to go to the caddy because it was right off 146 and I live in Mass so it was a straight shot. Haven't been in a couple of months but the last time I was there the girls were kind of beat. Granted it was a Saturday afternoon and the second string was probably out so that may not be a fair assessment.
Yeah, she is awesome. She gave me her number but I did not end up dreaming with her OTC because she wasn't cool with some of my requests. Haven't seen her around at CL lately. Texted her to find out and haven't heard back.
[QUOTE=Worcmass;2975621]I love Kiki from CL and am wondering if anyone knows if she dances anywhere else?? I think she lives in CT so I'm wondering if she dates outside the club or works anywhere else? She is the sexiest of all time![/QUOTE]