Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=FunLuver;4171728]We know you're doing you're job, but take a look at statistics, if you bust all the AMPs in Hamilton there is going to be an enivitable rise in the Homicide rate, check the facts, Lexington had this happen a few years back and at one point they were tied with Cincinnati on Homcides. Just an idea, give a monger a few places to do his business and ignored them, you'll find the crime rate drops and you look great in the public's eye, try it and see!!

My apologies to Admin if this was the wrong place to post this.[/QUOTE]I have nothing. Don't agree with this. Better recheck you stats.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy011;4172583]Being on camera is a separate matter than any of the acronyms.

With a hooker, or your significant other, it comes down to whether they want to be on camera, and people, even hookers, probably have more reasons not to want sexual activities recorded.[/QUOTE]True, then that's not a PSE. I am not advocating that all providers allow recording. I am just mulling the expected services of a, PSE vs a GFE.

I mean without the camera, what is the real difference between PSE and GFE, or even a QV considering that like a typical porn scene, a QV is about 15 to 20 minutes and end at the pop.

[QUOTE=DNut;4172156]So I was discussing the whole GFE, non-GFE, PSE services and it occured to me that for a true PSE, video or still photographer should be offered as part of the package. Otherwise, it's just people vigorously having sex. You can get that with a girlfriend with a healthy sexual appetite. That's not really a porn star experience; just vigorous sex. Maybe use a new term. VSE; vigorous sex experience.

So, chime in. PSE- option for a camera, or no need for an option for a camera? Discuss.[/QUOTE]I live my life with the opinion that nobody wants to see my fat ass on camera. Yes, the porn stars who do a full PSE might be ok with it, but, I know that I wouldn't want to be recorded.

MM.

[QUOTE=MisforMaster;4173139]I live my life with the opinion that nobody wants to see my fat ass on camera. Yes, the porn stars who do a full PSE might be ok with it, but, I know that I wouldn't want to be recorded.

MM.[/QUOTE]I agree, and like you I don't want to watch anything with my ass prominently displayed. However, if we're paying for a PSE, shouldn't it be the choice of the customer though whether or not there is a camera?

It's just like every ala carte option. Just because anal is available doesn't mean I would want to stick my penis in her poop hole. But it nice to know that it's my call.

[QUOTE=FunLuver;4171728]We know you're doing you're job, but take a look at statistics, if you bust all the AMPs in Hamilton there is going to be an enivitable rise in the Homicide rate, check the facts, Lexington had this happen a few years back and at one point they were tied with Cincinnati on Homcides. Just an idea, give a monger a few places to do his business and ignored them, you'll find the crime rate drops and you look great in the public's eye, try it and see!!

My apologies to Admin if this was the wrong place to post this.[/QUOTE]I guess you totally buy into that Fatal Sperm Back Up syndrome? Makes people go craaaazzzy

Got a group text at 330 am from.

8597775187 asking me to down load a text app to contact them. Fuck that. Seriously some of these girls are out there.

Stay safe.

Happy Hunting.

[QUOTE=Gunman2013;4179601]Got a group text at 330 am from.

8597775187 asking me to down load a text app to contact them. Fuck that. Seriously some of these girls are out there.

Stay safe.

Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]That's bull shit putting your number out there in a group. I had it happen once a few years ago. I text her ripped her ass an BLOCKED her number.

I googled the number and don't think you are missing much not seeing her. Pictures show her with her tongue out but never a smile showing TEETH.

[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;4179672]That's bull shit putting your number out there in a group. I had it happen once a few years ago. I text her ripped her ass an BLOCKED her number.



I googled the number and don't think you are missing much not seeing her. Pictures show her with her tongue out but never a smile showing TEETH.[/QUOTE]Agreed on both accounts.

[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;4179672]That's bull shit putting your number out there in a group. I had it happen once a few years ago. I text her ripped her ass an BLOCKED her number.

I googled the number and don't think you are missing much not seeing her. Pictures show her with her tongue out but never a smile showing TEETH.[/QUOTE]WTF sort of idiot would use a photo in their ad with a kid clearly seen in the photo? Even dumber is the same photo has a filter that covers the provider's face! The drug use has rotted their teeth and their brain.

[QUOTE=LiamBrennan;4178338]Believe it or not, Vincent is actually right this time.[/QUOTE]You sir, are a vacuous gasbag. I'm not sure why you are implying my posts are inaccurate or incorrect, but I have never once posted anything that meets those terms.

You may not agree with my opinion, you may call me out for seeing girls you don't like (which you did once and I laughed about it) but DO NOT post that I am wrong because I am not. At least not here.

I just spent a few minutes reading your 97 posts and you have added zero value to this group. You ask a lot of (stupid and obvious) questions, you have called out other people for doing what you do, and I think you have 3 actual reviews in 97 posts. And, quite frankly, your reviews are so generic I doubt you actually saw any of those girls. If you truly saw Kyla, I suspect I know why she didn't enjoy it. It's because you were there.

So, Liam, friend, go get a big giant cup of STFU and think before you post.

And, don't bother replying because you're about to join the ignore list with Kid Kuddi, so I'll never see it.

[QUOTE=Gonz199;4172190]Uh. Wait. What? So, if I can't visit my local AMP, my obvious next alternative is to, what? Kill somebody? That escalated quickly, as they say. Sorry dude, don't lump me in with that twisted argument.[/QUOTE]If you can't normally bust a nut with a woman, one of the eventualities is to kill them. Most serial killers are sexual in the root of their motives. Simple science.

[QUOTE=MVD212;4180802]If you can't normally bust a nut with a woman, one of the eventualities is to kill them. Most serial killers are sexual in the root of their motives. Simple science.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but that's not science. That's just batshit crazy talk.

[QUOTE=MVD212;4180802]If you can't normally bust a nut with a woman, one of the eventualities is to kill them. Most serial killers are sexual in the root of their motives. Simple science.[/QUOTE]Have you been watching Lifetime again?

(A2, please move / mod if out of place -- I realize this probably belongs in the Octagon.).

[QUOTE=MVD212;4180802]If you can't normally bust a nut with a woman, one of the eventualities is to kill them. Most serial killers are sexual in the root of their motives. Simple science.[/QUOTE]While true that a lot of serial killers have some sort of sexual motivation, you are trying to imply that everyone with a sexual dysfunction or a lack of sex will turn into a serial killer which is quite silly.

[QUOTE=MisforMaster;4181000]Have you been watching Lifetime again?

(A2, please move / mod if out of place -- I realize this probably belongs in the Octagon.).[/QUOTE]I am just following the thread and agree that this conversation should probably be in the octagon, but my post would be out of context over there. It appears that most of these responses (to the MVD212 and FunLuver posts) are being aimed at MVD212, when, as it appeared to me after reading the thread several times over, the opposing comments were about the original post by FunLuver, not MVD? I'm not a science nut or a history geek, but just because a bunch of crazed serial killers had some sort of sexual dysfunction, does not necessarily, in any way, equate to everyone with a sexual dysfunction being a serial killer, LOL. If that were the case, without AMPs, 90% of guys over 60 would be widowed, single, and / or in prison, LOL.

(Inside comments were meant to be tongue in cheek and primarily intended for 104.7 FM, B&T followers only) thank you for you consideration to this matter.

[QUOTE=Pictraders69;4181137]I am just following the thread and agree that this conversation should probably be in the octagon, but my post would be out of context over there. It appears that most of these responses (to the MVD212 and FunLuver posts) are being aimed at MVD212, when, as it appeared to me after reading the thread several times over, the opposing comments were about the original post by FunLuver, not MVD? I'm not a science nut or a history geek, but just because a bunch of crazed serial killers had some sort of sexual dysfunction, does not necessarily, in any way, equate to everyone with a sexual dysfunction being a serial killer, LOL. If that were the case, without AMPs, 90% of guys over 60 would be widowed, single, and / or in prison, LOL.

(Inside comments were meant to be tongue in cheek and primarily intended for 104.7 FM, B&T followers only) thank you for you consideration to this matter.[/QUOTE]I am over 60 picture and I can still kill cereal, particularly Raisin Bran. But eating cereal definitely makes my ED dysfunction worse. Or maybe I'm confused.

[QUOTE=DaytonSteve;4181095]While true that a lot of serial killers have some sort of sexual motivation, you are trying to imply that everyone with a sexual dysfunction or a lack of sex will turn into a serial killer which is quite silly.[/QUOTE]No, not everyone. Just that it's a possibility. I specifically did not generalize.

The point is that the first dude was right about AMPs, just let us get off, and the world is a better place.

[QUOTE=Gonz199;4180872]Sorry, but that's not science. That's just batshit crazy talk.[/QUOTE]Its science because it's a theory that has been researched and proven many times. You knowing nothing about serial killers doesn't make it untrue.

Come on guys.

Correlation does not imply causation.

If that were the case, wouldn't Cincy have been filled with serial killers whenever they banned all strip clubs in Cincy?

[QUOTE=BillBut52;4181919]I am over 60 picture and I can still kill cereal, particularly Raisin Bran. But eating cereal definitely makes my ED dysfunction worse. Or maybe I'm confused.[/QUOTE]Switch to Trix!

Not crazy about the "Secret Benefits" pop up that starts every time I log in. But I will say as a side note, while all the girls they show are great, the one posing sideways wearing the denim with the open denim shirt is absolutely the shit. What that girl doesn't have she doesn't need. I don't know where they found her but boy if she was a provider I'd be broke in no time.

[blue]I'm curious, would you rather pay 20 bucks a month or close a pop under once a day?

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Hooter12;4182448]Not crazy about the "Secret Benefits" pop up that starts every time I log in. But I will say as a side note, while all the girls they show are great, the one posing sideways wearing the denim with the open denim shirt is absolutely the shit. What that girl doesn't have she doesn't need. I don't know where they found her but boy if she was a provider I'd be broke in no time.

[blue]I'm curious, would you rather pay 20 bucks a month or close a pop under once a day?

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Keep the pop ups please. I will say the jiggly ass one was my favorite.

[QUOTE=BigJay69;4182563]Keep the pop ups please. I will say the jiggly ass one was my favorite.[/QUOTE]I use Firefox with the Popup blocker ultimate ad on and it stops it every time.

[QUOTE=MVD212;4182316]No, not everyone. Just that it's a possibility. I specifically did not generalize.

The point is that the first dude was right about AMPs, just let us get off, and the world is a better place.[/QUOTE]That I agree with, It should be legal, period!

I can't believe I got to write this whole thing again LOL. For some reason it didn't go thru last time [blue][Deleted by Admin]

I was the reason, don't tell guys not to post shit. If they think your apartment is in a sketchy place then they need to post that. If it is and it's costing you money then you need to fix that.

Telling then that it's not your fault who is walking around doesn't mean you aren't responsible for where you decide to run your business. If there are sketchy people walking around it's probably going to cost you business until you fix that.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Pictraders69;4181137]I am just following the thread and agree that this conversation should probably be in the octagon, but my post would be out of context over there. It appears that most of these responses (to the MVD212 and FunLuver posts) are being aimed at MVD212, when, as it appeared to me after reading the thread several times over, the opposing comments were about the original post by FunLuver, not MVD? I'm not a science nut or a history geek, but just because a bunch of crazed serial killers had some sort of sexual dysfunction, does not necessarily, in any way, equate to everyone with a sexual dysfunction being a serial killer, LOL. If that were the case, without AMPs, 90% of guys over 60 would be widowed, single, and / or in prison, LOL.

(Inside comments were meant to be tongue in cheek and primarily intended for 104.7 FM, B&T followers only) thank you for you consideration to this matter.[/QUOTE]I'm just sayin.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;4182448]Not crazy about the "Secret Benefits" pop up that starts every time I log in. But I will say as a side note, while all the girls they show are great, the one posing sideways wearing the denim with the open denim shirt is absolutely the shit. What that girl doesn't have she doesn't need. I don't know where they found her but boy if she was a provider I'd be broke in no time.

[blue]I'm curious, would you rather pay 20 bucks a month or close a pop under once a day?

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]I was talking about the girl not the annoyance of the pop up. Now that you ask though, probably the 20 bucks. Would give the site more credibility. However was talking about the model.

[blue]I don't see the connection between advertising and credibility. Unless you mean that the existence of paid subscriptions would do that. I tend to agree with that viewpoint.

A2[/blue]

There is no relationship between advertising and credibility, except perhaps the more something is advertised the less likely it is to be what its touted to be, LOL. I wouldn't mind purchasing a subscription to the site, but 20 a month would be more than I think I would pay, 5 or maybe 10 a month. It all adds up. The ads on this site don't bother me at all. My only concern would be that the site would become like cable TV, you have to pay to get it but then all the non-premium channels are full of adds anyway, so in essence we are paying to watch the adds. It sucks. I don't think Jackson would do it, but greed eventually wins and so, sooner or later, even if this were a pay site, there would be adds.

Cheech.

[QUOTE=Cheech1;4188710]There is no relationship between advertising and credibility, except perhaps the more something is advertised the less likely it is to be what its touted to be, LOL. I wouldn't mind purchasing a subscription to the site, but 20 a month would be more than I think I would pay, 5 or maybe 10 a month. It all adds up. The ads on this site don't bother me at all. My only concern would be that the site would become like cable TV, you have to pay to get it but then all the non-premium channels are full of adds anyway, so in essence we are paying to watch the adds. It sucks. I don't think Jackson would do it, but greed eventually wins and so, sooner or later, even if this were a pay site, there would be adds.

Cheech.[/QUOTE]Why don't you guys shut the hell up! A2 does a fantastic job with this site just the way it is and I can't believe you're finding fault with it. Don't you have better things to ***** about?

Funny, I actually click on them on a regular basis. Seems a small price to "pay" for this site and I either get a chuckle or learn something like the FKK ads.

Next time I'm in Germany I may partake.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;4188717]Why don't you guys shut the hell up! A2 does a fantastic job with this site just the way it is and I can't believe you're finding fault with it. Don't you have better things to ***** about?[/QUOTE]

I agree, A2 does do a great job, and I'm not finding fault with him. I do have an issue with certain policies of the site, however, its Jackson's site, or whoever bought it from him, and as such they have the right to run it however they want to. Also, some things are such political hot potatoes that no one wants to bring serious heat by hosting contrary opinions.

My comment about advertising and greed and so on, however, are I think true. Few things rise to the expectations generated by ads. Think hamburgers, cars, women, LOL. And, eventually Jackson and A2 will give up control of the site, either thru age, or retirement, or whatever. Eventually we'll be paying for access AND watching ads too.

Cheech.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;4188717]Why don't you guys shut the hell up! A2 does a fantastic job with this site just the way it is and I can't believe you're finding fault with it. Don't you have better things to ***** about?[/QUOTE]I have no problem with A2's running of the site.

What I have a problem with is you telling people to shut up. That's what this site is about voicing their opinions.

If interested the Baltimore mongers video with Cassie is on xvideos search Cincinnati. If you know her you will see it.

Since people were asking about how they missed the videos of BaltimoreX for Cassie and Saffy in another thread.

You can also find a dozen Saffy videos posted by her bf on xvideos. Search Saffy then click on video poster name holepunishment.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;4197019]If interested the Baltimore mongers video with Cassie is on xvideos search Cincinnati. If you know her you will see it.[/QUOTE]

Let's hope that none of our favorite providers were busted today when RENU went out to play.

MM.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;4199197]Since people were asking about how they missed the videos of BaltimoreX for Cassie and Saffy in another thread.

You can also find a dozen Saffy videos posted by her bf on xvideos. Search Saffy then click on video poster name holepunishment.[/QUOTE]I found some of the videos and there is a whole different side to Saffy that I never would have thought about her.

It really means? 1. I know what you want and if you contact me baby I will give you whatever you want that you need and are not getting at home!

2. Look at my picture big boy spreading my pussy lips and wonder what it would be like for you to put that big dick in between them and how much you would love the feeling of your cock sliding in my pussy?

3. Cum and get me big boy and fill it up ya know ya want to. 4. Yes baby I will do all of the things you dream of and more. Cum see me and let momma.

Make you hard until you bust that big nut you have inside.

4. If you can make me squirt no matter how you do it this pussy is on me. Show me what ya got and if ya know how to use it.

5. and my favorite, all three are open and I want your hot nut butter in all three, make me feel like a woman and I will make you feel like a man.

These are just a few of the wonderful encouragments you can read on the boards until you contact the ladies who wrote them and then you get that standard bull shit response, well that isn't what I really meant. JMO Ladies but if you put up the goods and spread the playing field be willing to play the full game. The old saying I won't waste your time so please don't waste mine works both ways. I love my PSE psy and a lot of the men and women on here do. PM backchannel if you want to fk the old fashioned way. Variations accepted of course. Don't advertise the goods if ya can't deliver the products. JMO.

[QUOTE=MisforMaster;4199904]Let's hope that none of our favorite providers were busted today when RENU went out to play.

MM.[/QUOTE]Excuse my ignorance, but what is RENU?

[QUOTE=Cincyfunguy;4200093]Excuse my ignorance, but what is RENU?[/QUOTE]Regional Enforcement Narcotics Unit.

Just posted the story about Portsmouth over in the news section. This follows Robert Kraft's arrest at what very likely was a human trafficking operation in Florida. There too while the feds bloviated about "human trafficking," they seem to have done little or nothing to go after the actual traffickers bringing women into the country either by coercion or deception. That's because these folks I suspect operate very much above the law or beyond the law, such as the Chinese woman who used to own that spa Kraft got busted at, was also watching the Super Bowl with Trump at Mar-a-Lago this year, and is a frequent Republican fundraiser, who is also quite possibly a Chinese government agent who uses massage parlors or connections to their operators to ingratiate herself to powerful people or get compromising information on them. Kraft and the other guys are getting offered a plea deal where they don't even plea guilty or get a conviction on their records, even though they've got apparently legit video of them all doing the entire transaction multiple times. I will bet no one seriously upstream in the "trafficking" operation ever gets busted.

All this crap is one reason I've never been a fan, or a user, of AMPs, and why I stopped seeing any providers, be they Asian or East European or Latina, who don't speak English, or not very well, and who I suspect may be trafficked. It's one reason, besides the additional hassle often involved, that I don't use third-party services, at least knowingly.

I do remember like the second provider I ever saw. It was in New Orleans. I was close to completely ignorant. Called some service and they said they were sending out a Malaysian girl. I was expecting Asian Malaysian, but she was very dark skinned, African / Indian Malaysian. But what the hell, she was there. I was dumb enough to be trying to pay with a credit card, though, and it wouldn't go. I didn't have the cash and told them sorry, next time. But after the girl got off the phone, she basically offered to do it for the cash I had on hand, off the books from her handlers. We both had a good time. She called her handlers after and they didn't have anyone for the rest of the night. She didn't really have anywhere else to go, it didn't sound like, and the hotel was nice, so she asked to just spend the night. I liked her, so said OK, she did, left in the morning, no problem. Not sure whatever happened to her. She didn't seem like a victim that night, because she was pretty happy with how things turned out. But I also felt sorry for her.