Escort Reports

Just read on the L'ville escorts board (I saw someone down there last summer who went by "Blue") where someone considered $$ "steep." Jesus F. Bawls, fellas. Can the chick have a burger with those fries? I mean see'mon, I can remember the day when the base tag was $$$. WTF! Now I'm not posting this to tick off any of the senior members, but I think if someone considers $$ steep, then maybe that someone should either get out of the game or start combing street corners for his "entertainment" purposes. It's us hobbyists. And not the providers. Who've taken most of the "class" out of the game. I mean if the sluggish economy has spanked you that hard and you got to sit down and cut coupons while you're checking out what's on the BP / e. Com menu, then maybe a change of scenery should be considered.

Bottom line: $$ is more than reasonable for any FS provider.

BFDeal (formerly Uncle Cletus, and I didn't change name to play games; I couldn't log on as UC after the great 2010 redesign)

Just read on the L'ville escorts board (I saw someone down there last summer who went by "Blue," and posted on there, too) where someone considered $$ "steep." Jesus F. Bawls, fellas. Can the chick have a burger with those fries? I mean come on, I can remember the day when the base tag was $$$. WTF! Now I'm not posting this to tick off any of the senior members, but I think if someone considers $$ steep, then maybe that someone should either get out of the game or start combing street corners for his "entertainment" purposes. It's us hobbyists. And not the providers. Who've taken most of the "class" out of the game. I mean if the sluggish economy has spanked you that hard and you got to sit down and cut coupons while you're checking out what's on the BP and e. Com menus, then maybe a change of scenery should be considered.

Bottom line: $$ is more than reasonable for any FS provider.

BFDeal (formerly Uncle Cletus, and I didn't change name to play games; I couldn't log on as UC after the great 2010 redesign)

Just read on the L'ville escorts board (I saw someone down there last summer who went by "Blue," and I posted on there, too) where someone considered $$ "steep." Jesus F. Bawls, fellas! Can the chick have a burger with those fries? I mean come on! I can remember the day when the base tag was $$$. WTF! Now I'm not posting this to tick off any of the senior members, but I think if someone considers $$ steep, then maybe that someone should either get out of the game or start combing the street corners for his "entertainment" purposes. It's us hobbyists, and not the providers, who've taken most of the "class" out of the game. I mean if the sluggish economy has spanked you that badly and you have got to sit down and cut coupons while you're checking out what's on the BP and edotcom menus, then maybe a change of scenery should be considered.

Bottom line: $$ is more than reasonable for any FS provider.

BFDeal (formerly Uncle Cletus, and I didn't change name to play games; I couldn't log on as UC after the great 2010 redesign)

[QUOTE=BFDeal;1171912]Bottom line: $$ is more than reasonable for any FS provider.[/QUOTE]This statement is nothing more than your opinion and just because you have it doesn't mean it's right. The situation is totally subjective to each individual, there is no one size fits all answer. And while I'm glad you have money falling out of your pockets, the rest of your post shows pure arrogance and absolutely no understanding that many people's financial difficulties are not of their own making. For you to pass judgement on others and be telling them what they should do is just plain wrong and is an indication of very poor character.

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1171912]Just read on the L'ville escorts board (I saw someone down there last summer who went by "Blue") where someone considered $$ "steep." Jesus F. Bawls, fellas. Can the chick have a burger with those fries? I mean see'mon, I can remember the day when the base tag was $$$. WTF! Now I'm not posting this to tick off any of the senior members, but I think if someone considers $$ steep, then maybe that someone should either get out of the game or start combing street corners for his "entertainment" purposes. It's us hobbyists. And not the providers. Who've taken most of the "class" out of the game. I mean if the sluggish economy has spanked you that hard and you got to sit down and cut coupons while you're checking out what's on the BP / e. Com menu, then maybe a change of scenery should be considered.

Bottom line: $$ is more than reasonable for any FS provider.

BFDeal (formerly Uncle Cletus, and I didn't change name to play games; I couldn't log on as UC after the great 2010 redesign) [/QUOTE]I disagree. If you've never come across a provider who isn't worth $$, either you haven't seen many providers or you're blessed by powerful spirits who watch over you. Either way, your opinion is in the minority.

Please. There's honor in being poor but honest; there's nothing but shame in being rich and a dick, like Tim Durham. Unfortunately the latter get the expensive toys.

What's plain wrong is taking frustrations over the unfairness of life out on providers who charge what the market will bear *just like hundreds of thousands of profit-making businesses do around you every hour of every day* Are you insulted that the liquor store charges more for Dom Perignon than a short dog of rotgut?

[QUOTE=B Beall; 1172174]Please. There's honor in being poor but honest; there's nothing but shame in being rich and a dick, like Tim Durham. Unfortunately the latter get the expensive toys.

What's plain wrong is taking frustrations over the unfairness of life out on providers who charge what the market will bear *just like hundreds of thousands of profit-making businesses do around you every hour of every day* Are you insulted that the liquor store charges more for Dom Perignon than a short dog of rotgut? [/QUOTE]No, but when I pay for Dom Perignon, I expect to actually get the full bottle and that is actually made in France and not a cheap bottle of crap.

The real problem is that there are some providers out there that are worth every penny the charge. There are others who aren't worth half.

Which brings me to my point. Differentiating between the two is the point of this board. So, lets not argue over what people are willing to pay. Lets just get back to reporting on providers and let the market decide.

Speaking of which, I forgot to submit a report on my last Backpage experience.

You're right that the market will bear what the market will bear. I'm curious how you feel on the other end where girls in some parts of the country give uncovered bjs to completion for a mere 20 bucks or less. I hate to sound like a moralist but there must be a happy medium. Escorts charging as much as many lawyers who worked hard and put themselves in financial peril via massive student loans does seem a bit unfair to me. At the same time do escorts provide an essential service we cannot live without like food and heat, and transportation? These areas of price gouging should be frowned on much more readily.

A piece of advice to you gentlemen that need a break financially when it comes to escorts. IME I've found that most escorts will give you a half hour over even 15 to 20 minute rate often for a little as a $. You need to be careful you make sure this is for a flat rate. In any case I've also found that every escorts I've ever asked (and there have been many) for a return client discount has given it to me. Believe it or not I've gotten rates for less than 50 dollars before. Usually I start out between a 100 to 150 then after sometimes years work my way down after we have established a very good report. I try to make my time more than just about me. If both of you are having a good time and are friends you'd be surprised at what they'd be willing to give.

So in short research and find the good providers. See and pay them what they want upfront. Then ask for discounts are time goes by. Believe me I could not have hobbied this long seeing this many escorts without it. I'm simply just not that rich. Well more technically I'm not rich at all but more accurately getting by.

[QUOTE=B Beall; 1172174]Please. There's honor in being poor but honest; there's nothing but shame in being rich and a dick, like Tim Durham. Unfortunately the latter get the expensive toys.

What's plain wrong is taking frustrations over the unfairness of life out on providers who charge what the market will bear *just like hundreds of thousands of profit-making businesses do around you every hour of every day* Are you insulted that the liquor store charges more for Dom Perignon than a short dog of rotgut? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wulfgar; 1172209]The real problem is that there are some providers out there that are worth every penny the charge. There are others who aren't worth half.

Which brings me to my point. Differentiating between the two is the point of this board. So, lets not argue over what people are willing to pay. Lets just get back to reporting on providers and let the market decide. [/QUOTE]Did Uncle Cletus claim that every provider is worth $$? Did I? Nobody disputes that some aren't. The point was about objecting to $$ as the going rate, period, regardless of who's asking. We just went through this, and it was made abundantly clear that most guys who patronize escorts are happy to pay that and more to a good one. For those who want cut-rate services there's a Backpage and a Streetwalker board.

[QUOTE=Luchi;1172219]Escorts charging as much as many lawyers who worked hard and put themselves in financial peril via massive student loans does seem a bit unfair to me. At the same time do escorts provide an essential service we cannot live without like food and heat, and transportation? These areas of price gouging should be frowned on much more readily.[/QUOTE]We live in a meritocracy now? I guess I slept through it. Last I knew people with no musical training and marginal talent were winning teevee contests and signing multi-million dollar contracts, while classically-trained musicians work for scale. And people earn hundreds of millions for throwing a ball, while artists starve. That's an absurd comparison; if no escort was worth $$, no escort would be charging $$. And like most guys, I'd rather be screwed by a good courtesan than a great lawyer any day.

If you want cut rate services, go find 'them. Don't complain that everybody else doesn't.

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1172125]Just read on the L'ville escorts board (I saw someone down there last summer who went by "Blue," and I posted on there, too) where someone considered $$ "steep." Jesus F. Bawls, fellas! Can the chick have a burger with those fries? I mean come on! I can remember the day when the base tag was $$$. WTF! Now I'm not posting this to tick off any of the senior members, but I think if someone considers $$ steep, then maybe that someone should either get out of the game or start combing the street corners for his "entertainment" purposes. It's us hobbyists, and not the providers, who've taken most of the "class" out of the game. I mean if the sluggish economy has spanked you that badly and you have got to sit down and cut coupons while you're checking out what's on the BP and edotcom menus, then maybe a change of scenery should be considered.

Bottom line: $$ is more than reasonable for any FS provider.

BFDeal (formerly Uncle Cletus, and I didn't change name to play games; I couldn't log on as UC after the great 2010 redesign) [/QUOTE]I agree that this poster does seem a bit arrogant and with what I am about to say I may sound arrogant also and I truly mean no arrogance but it may be taken that way. First of all it is a classic supply and demand situation. I have been to Brazil, The Carribbean and Asia mongering and I have paid as little as $15 for FS from young fit and attractive providers that if they worked in this city would get the $$$ an hour. Every trip I make inevitably on the plane I calculate how much money I could make if I could fly 20 or so of them over build a brothel and open it for business. It is the fact that this activity is illegal that drives the price up more than the quality of the provider.

I realize that there are those that will say, with merit I add, that many of the women in these locations that I speak of do not live under the same rights and privlidges that we all do here in the United States. Their imposed, for lack of a better word, self worth is many times percieved less than we do as Americans. That and real economic situations in these countries and more so in the countries the the girls come from such as Columbia, Panama, Banglash (sp.) , Tiawan, Kenya etc bring the price to the lower levels. I have seen two girls in rooms 10ft from each other with similar appeareances be $250 dollars apart for the same service. Again its each persons choice. Supply and demand. McDonalds charges 99 cents for a hamburger, St Elmo's charges $48 for a fillet. I've had both and they both satisfy me.

A final thought about discounts. Alot of providers don't have steady boyfriends. They have sexual needs as well. It is my opinion that if you are a healthy, attractive male with a strong presence in the bedroom and can stimulate and satisfy a provider that they will give you a better rate than they would give an overweight, unattractive client. That is in my opinion the strongest factor when I see a reference to YMMV. Basically if they want to screw you, you shouldn't have to pay as much as you would if they don't.

[QUOTE=Tim P14; 1172327] (edit delete)

(I)f you are a healthy, attractive male with a strong presence in the bedroom and can stimulate and satisfy a provider that they will give you a better rate than they would give an overweight, unattractive client. (edit delete) [/QUOTE][U]If I was[/U] a healthy, attractive [U]male escort[/U] with a strong presence in the bedroom and can stimulate and satisfy a [U]woman no way would I do[/U] an overweight, unattractive [U]female client for $300 (1) or $600 (2) [/U]. No way. I don't see how some of the girls can bring themselves to do some of us. They earn every dime they get. JMO.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1172339][U]If I was[/U] a healthy, attractive [U]male escort[/U] with a strong presence in the bedroom and can stimulate and satisfy a [U]woman no way would I do[/U] an overweight, unattractive [U]female client for $300 (1) or $600 (2) [/U]. No way. I don't see how some of the girls can bring themselves to do some of us. They earn every dime they get. JMO.[/QUOTE]I have said this all along, I could never and will not do an overweight or ugly female. Not that I am Mr. GQ just will not settle. No Idea how Cate and several other attractive ladies do it, they have strong stomachs I guess.

Mymopar

[QUOTE=B Beall; 1172325]We live in a meritocracy now? I guess I slept through it. Last I knew people with no musical training and marginal talent were winning teevee contests and signing multi-million dollar contracts, while classically-trained musicians work for scale. And people earn hundreds of millions for throwing a ball, while artists starve. That's an absurd comparison; if no escort was worth $$, no escort would be charging $$. And like most guys, I'd rather be screwed by a good courtesan than a great lawyer any day.

If you want cut rate services, go find 'them. Don't complain that everybody else doesn't. [/QUOTE]Maybe you've mistaken me but I'm not complaining one bit. If you consider paying less than $$ cut rate than I've already found that by some very mainstream providers not streetwalkers.

What I was trying to do is give helpful advise to those who feel the sting of paying for them big bucks. Not everyone is as well off as some. I wish I could pay $$$ every time and not have to worry about it. Thankfully I've found a system that has worked.

Also I tend to by nature try to develop sincere relations with the escorts I meet. Most seem to feel the same way as it often reflects in time with what one might term as a friendship rate. In the end everyone wins as I see the escorts many more times than if I was paying full price in which they make much more money than they otherwise would, and we both enjoy our time together. Win win is what I am going for not whine whine.;)

By the way I completely agree, I'd rather be screwed by an escort than a lawyer. LOL :)

Had a recent trip to Chicago and wanted to post some info on our board, just in case some of you travel or have some interesting fetishes to explore. Here is a link to the post:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5225-Escort-Reports&p=1172024&viewfull=1#post1172024[/url]

PS. No freckles on this trip.

Again, I didn't write my original post to try to offend anyone. I was just stunned when I read that someone considered $$ "steep." Again, it's on the L'ville escorts reports board. I'm not arrogant, nor am I wealthy. I'm not a native Hoosier, which really doesn't mean much I guess. I don't live paycheck to paycheck, either. I guess it's startling to me that us hobbyists actually try to "negotiate" when it comes to this thing. When we stop and think about what's being negotiated, it's kind of ludicrous. I'm not a fan of BP because I read about more horror stories about that site. But because of this notion that $$ is considered steep by some, er, by many I guess, it enables BP and some of the providers who advertise on there to exist and even prosper in some ways. Why would we try to play the "game" with a site that, in my opinion on what I've read and heard, advertises or promotes providers who basically are trying to scam hobbyists? I'd say 6 out of every 10 ads, again based on what I've read on message boards like these, feature either phony pictures or are posted by providers trying to scam (what usually results in a cash and dash) hobbyists. That's what I mean by devaluing or taking the "class" out of the game. Most of the providers have lowered rates to try to create more biz and that's fine, and most don't have time or money to market themselves with an extravagant Web site featuring pics of themselves wearing sexy lingerie or, in some cases, nothing at all. I'm more than pleased with the providers I've seen recently. I just feel that, based on what true FS providers do to make us hobbyists relax and help relieve the tensions that go along with stressful jobs and the day-to-day tumultuous anarchy that life has to offer, $$ is more than fair. But hey, what do I know? I'm supposed to know computers pretty well and it still takes me several times to log on to this Web site. Ha!

BFDeal (formerly UC)

[QUOTE=B Beall; 1172325]Did Uncle Cletus claim that every provider is worth $$? Did I? Nobody disputes that some aren't. The point was about objecting to $$ as the going rate, period, regardless of who's asking. We just went through this, and it was made abundantly clear that most guys who patronize escorts are happy to pay that and more to a good one. For those who want cut-rate services there's a Backpage and a Streetwalker board.

We live in a meritocracy now? I guess I slept through it. Last I knew people with no musical training and marginal talent were winning teevee contests and signing multi-million dollar contracts, while classically-trained musicians work for scale. And people earn hundreds of millions for throwing a ball, while artists starve. That's an absurd comparison; if no escort was worth $$, no escort would be charging $$. And like most guys, I'd rather be screwed by a good courtesan than a great lawyer any day.

If you want cut rate services, go find 'them. Don't complain that everybody else doesn't. [/QUOTE]