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[QUOTE=Wleakr;1761730]I admit, I'm kinda surprised, because I've never really had anyone hit me up for VIP in Blaze or do much extra. I've gotten good contact, but nothing like other spots. I've rarely even seen VIP used at all there and the side of bar is so tight that I can't see anyone getting caught that way.[/QUOTE]It's mainly in the dayshift and I mean before five. It's been a while.
Since I've done VIP or been offered, but I haven't made it there that early in years. Now my dances have been just as good there as anywhere else it just dependes on the female, and I don't thick they have a set group of dancers in the daytime just women coming from allover on different days so some do things some don't.
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Blazes
I stopped in Blazes the other afternoon after leaving airport. I was the only cracker in the place except for what looked like the manager. Checked out back booth at play toilet all the dancers with their Bros. Got a drink and stood at a table across from stage not the first hit. I'm one that won't beg to spend my cash. Headed downstairs to see if I could get one of them from the table by stairs to follow. Nobody followed and only one dude getting a rub down there. Headed back up and stood and finished my drink with still no luck. So it was out of there, don't know if it was my looks or color but was surprised some momma didn't come and want to sit in my lap and spend some of my money.
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[QUOTE=Wleakr;1761730]I admit, I'm kinda surprised, because I've never really had anyone hit me up for VIP in Blaze or do much extra. I've gotten good contact, but nothing like other spots. I've rarely even seen VIP used at all there and the side of bar is so tight that I can't see anyone getting caught that way.[/QUOTE]Blaze used to be a huge VIP place. They have upped the price and every girl that was special no longer work there. One works at Pin Ups and the other at Wax. I was at Blaze a couple of weeks ago, and you couldn't get drinks downstairs. Now, if you want a cheap moment in VIP, Babes is 20 bucks and 10 per song. And some girls will even work with you on the 10 per song.
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[QUOTE=Acaryu; 1762028]Interesting question. What I have observed through the years are as followed:
1. People have the misunderstanding that escorts make a lot of money. Other than the top notch girls who get thousands a trick, a lot of escorts make less than a top stripper.
2. Other than occasional situation and not counting strippers in high extra clubs, strippers don't usually escort. They may go out with a regular customer, but it is different than an escort.
3. Stripper is a more safe business. Escorts working in an agency have to give about 50% to the agency. It is very steep. Independent escort runs the risk of customer violence and rape.
4. Strippers in high extra clubs are different, they escort, they give extras in the clubs and they walk the streets. A lot of them have pimps to control them and a lot of them use drugs.
Just my two cents worth.[/QUOTE]You know, I don't know why many people believe escorts make a lot of money. Those $40-$60 chics on backpage barely make anything. I doubt they make alot of money. Those chics come a dime a dozen. When I started buying escorts (LOL) I used to always asked them why are they doing this. They would always say "for quick money". I doubt highly they make much profit, taking in the money they pay for the motel. I can tell they get a lot of phone calls but most dudes don't actually come through. They're just calling just to be calling. I think its more safer and profitable to strip than escort. Even strippers make more money selling ass in the VIP at strip clubs than they would at selling ass on backpage. I think strippers would be better off stripping and maybe selling a little bit of ass in the VIP than straight escorting.
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[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1762044]Can you define "high extra clubs"?[/QUOTE]Please! .
Never heard this term
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[QUOTE=LexLuthor; 1762885]Please! .
Never heard this term[/QUOTE]I think he means clubs known to have high mileage.
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[QUOTE=Johnny Mapalo;1762770]You know, I don't know why many people believe escorts make a lot of money. Those $40-$60 chics on backpage barely make anything. I doubt they make alot of money. Those chics come a dime a dozen. When I started buying escorts (LOL) I used to always asked them why are they doing this. They would always say "for quick money". I doubt highly they make much profit, taking in the money they pay for the motel. I can tell they get a lot of phone calls but most dudes don't actually come through. They're just calling just to be calling. I think its more safer and profitable to strip than escort. Even strippers make more money selling ass in the VIP at strip clubs than they would at selling ass on backpage. I think strippers would be better off stripping and maybe selling a little bit of ass in the VIP than straight escorting.[/QUOTE]Speaking as someone who knowns this business in and out. Thats just not true. Maybe for ghetto hags on BP, but I am friends with a few girls who do this for a few days and all the bills are paid for the month. 100k plus a year. Then back at it. Including shopping and going out nightly. It's not uncommon for them to make a grand plus in a day / night. Now if they are a dime working at the cheetah you can pull these numbers with no extra's, but that is hit or miss and requires a lot of game.
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[QUOTE=Khadre;1762112]They go hand in hand it's all about getting money from men to turn them on. It's a natural progression for some. You can guarantee all at some point have been offered money for sex. Contrary to popular belief they all don't make a lot of money, and some days are better than others, and then they have to tip out the DJ bartender and pay the club fees that money dwindles down quick. Then if you figure that they can make they same amount or more in less time and not standing on their feet all day it's just dollars and sense. Now all don't and most don't advertise they keep it in the club with guys that they are familiar with. Believe it or not a some of them get horney too.[/QUOTE]The big thing here is the lifestyle. It's not uncommon for a stripper to blow a grand in a day. Live in a high-rise condo in midtown. Have a fuck load. And I mean a fuck load of clothes / shoes. Plus Nails / Makup / Tanning, stylish car, etc etc. All bitches want to live like a rock star, a few make it happen, others fuck a rich guy, while strippers just live day to day.
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[QUOTE=Riceracerx; 1763129]The big thing here is the lifestyle. It's not uncommon for a stripper to blow a grand in a day. Live in a high-rise condo in midtown. Have a fuck load. And I mean a fuck load of clothes / shoes. Plus Nails / Makup / Tanning, stylish car, etc etc. All bitches want to live like a rock star, a few make it happen, others fuck a rich guy, while strippers just live day to day.
-RRX[/QUOTE]Actually, most strippers I've known don't have a car, or have one but don't maintain it well. It's quite a constant theme.
They have 30 pairs of True Religion jeans ($300 / pr) , but no car!
O.
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[QUOTE=Ozymandias; 1763141]Actually, most strippers I've known don't have a car, or have one but don't maintain it well. It's quite a constant theme.
They have 30 pairs of True Religion jeans ($300 / pr) , but no car!
O.[/QUOTE]Those are the best, they also don't have a real man in their life, or some zippy the wonder sloth who lives off them.
Things we tend to forget: STRIPPERS / ESCORTS ARE STILL A WOMAN FIRST. You break down their game and you'd be amazed at what can happen.
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[QUOTE=Riceracerx; 1763123]Speaking as someone who knowns this business in and out. Thats just not true. Maybe for ghetto hags on BP, but I am friends with a few girls who do this for a few days and all the bills are paid for the month. 100k plus a year. Then back at it. Including shopping and going out nightly. It's not uncommon for them to make a grand plus in a day / night. Now if they are a dime working at the cheetah you can pull these numbers with no extra's, but that is hit or miss and requires a lot of game.
-RRX[/QUOTE]I don't know much about the strip game, but saying on average a average stripper makes more than a average escort didn't sound right. You have to keep in mind a escort that is on her grussle (grind / hussle) on BP is available 24/7. (minus aunt dot / sleep). A stripper is going to have really be busting her ass those few hours she is at the club to even compete with that. In my opinion. I think even the lower grade chicks that offer 40-50 bucks for quickies make more than a average stripper.
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Cheetah
[QUOTE=Riceracerx; 1763123]Speaking as someone who knowns this business in and out. Thats just not true. Maybe for ghetto hags on BP, but I am friends with a few girls who do this for a few days and all the bills are paid for the month. 100k plus a year. Then back at it. Including shopping and going out nightly. It's not uncommon for them to make a grand plus in a day / night. Now if they are a dime working at the cheetah you can pull these numbers with no extra's, but that is hit or miss and requires a lot of game.
-RRX[/QUOTE]I personally know a number of beautiful cheetah girls including some of my ex's does not make too much money. When they first start at a club, they make more because they are new and is a novelty, but after awhile, money will become harder to come back. Sure, once in awhile they make a grand or two a night, but those are rare. A very beautiful one can make 4-5k a month if they work at least 3 days a week. Those making 100k a year is very rare. This is from talking to the dancers at Tattletale, Cheetah, Oasis, Pink Pony. Many of them are my friends and I have gone out with most of them. Maybe these are not nice looking? No, I would not take them out unless they are at least an 8.
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[QUOTE=GetUrRollOnMan;1763213]I don't know much about the strip game, but saying on average a average stripper makes more than a average escort didn't sound right. You have to keep in mind a escort that is on her grussle (grind / hussle) on BP is available 24/7. (minus aunt dot / sleep). A stripper is going to have really be busting her ass those few hours she is at the club to even compete with that. In my opinion. I think even the lower grade chicks that offer 40-50 bucks for quickies make more than a average stripper.[/QUOTE]L.
You've got to be kidding me. You actually believe the $40/$50/$60 chics on BP make money. Those chics come a dime a dozen. There are hundreds of girls selling pussy for that same price, plus you have the streetwalkers that are selling for even less. What makes you think the average $40-$60 chic makes much money. You also have to count in the money their spending on motel / hotel fees. You actually believe the average $50 BP chic can pull at least 3 guys a day? You know how many girls they have to compete with? I think a lot of people believe since those girls are selling it for the low low that they must be banking. I talk to many of those low price girls on BP and you can almost hear the desperation in some of their voices. A lot of those chics will try to negotiate prices with you just to get you over there. That low ball hustling doesn't last too long on backpage. There's too much competition.
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[QUOTE=Wleakr;1761730]I admit, I'm kinda surprised, because I've never really had anyone hit me up for VIP in Blaze or do much extra. I've gotten good contact, but nothing like other spots. I've rarely even seen VIP used at all there and the side of bar is so tight that I can't see anyone getting caught that way.[/QUOTE]I think someone mentioned on this board a few weeks ago that if a dancer got caught without a permit she automatically got a prostitution charge. So it's possible there was nothing fishy going on in VIP.
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Lol@this Response
[QUOTE=Johnny Mapalo; 1763286]L.
You've got to be kidding me. You actually believe the $40/$50/$60 chics on BP make money. Those chics come a dime a dozen. There are hundreds of girls selling pussy for that same price, plus you have the streetwalkers that are selling for even less. What makes you think the average $40-$60 chic makes much money. You also have to count in the money their spending on motel / hotel fees. You actually believe the average $50 BP chic can pull at least 3 guys a day? You know how many girls they have to compete with? I think a lot of people believe since those girls are selling it for the low low that they must be banking. I talk to many of those low price girls on BP and you can almost hear the desperation in some of their voices. A lot of those chics will try to negotiate prices with you just to get you over there. That low ball hustling doesn't last too long on backpage. There's too much competition.[/QUOTE]Maybe your right, maybe your not. I don't claim to have first hand knowledge on the issue, I don't strip nor do I escort. I'm strictly going off of my common sense, which hasn't been detoured after your response. After reading your response, you really think its that big of a gap between a "average" escort and a average "stripper". Part of the problem is your average, might not be what I consider average and there is to many variables to try and logically figure it out on paper. I'm just going to try and make sense out of your reply.
Hundreds of girls selling pussy. I think that is a little bit of an exaggeration unless your talking about women selling ass across the state of georgia. I personally don't have the means and time to check out these hundreds of women your talking about. (I hope your not talking about archieving backpage posts) Seeing that I am south of Atlanta, I tend to try and stay close to that area and I don't recall having hundreds of girls to choose from there. On the flip side, you don't think there is competition among the hundred plus strippers in Atlanta?
Escorts have to pay for the room. That's true and they may as well have a pimp, but I don't consider this any different from a stripper paying for her license, tipping the dj and bouncer. A necessary expense between the two.
Again it goes back to the variables and how it's impossible to prove this point. I can easily point out that a chick like keekee in metro and her 50 dollar dates are far out-pacing most strippers, but many would consider that the exception and only consider the lower class SW that can only pull 2-3 tricks a day. I've read many reports about someone being with a chick and they were either just getting through with someone, phone blowing up and them answering it, and hearing the chick direct the next trick to her spot right after finishing with the current trick. But hey I digress; I'm not seeing a penny of this money. I could care less about the subject. My next post in this area will be able some stripper ass I pile-drived.