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[QUOTE=Admin2;2943534][BLUE]Are you aware that in the title you said "don't feed the troll" yet your post was all about feeding the troll?
Are you schizophrenic? Was your right hand literally not aware of what your left hand was typing?
Just wondering,
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]All true, A2, all true. As my participation in this hobby makes clear, I succumb easily to temptation. Taking your advice and steering clear!
[QUOTE=Skatar018;2944269]No one is shooting the messenger, it's just that you're not telling us anything that we do not already know & have already discussed on the forums, seems you're about 4 years late.
But what is it you expect? To close up shop? That's not going to happen, that chit is primal instinct, it's encoded in our DNA which trumps any written law, regardless what the punishment or ramifications are.
So precisely what is the point you of being here?[/QUOTE]The cases I have cited are contemporary, thus making previous discussion of them impossible. The initial post that drew the ire of the barracks attorney Howard Sprague simply stated that a hotel escort visit is rife with legal pitfalls, should law enforcement seek to hang a case on an individual. From there, Howard Sprague sought to both insult me and guarantee everyone of their teflon status at a sting provided they follow his guidelines, which he never really spelled out. It appears that his guidelines consist of saying certain things and not saying others, thus causing the police open your car door for you while you drive away free as a bird. When I presented active cases law from the news and the Massachusetts Courts, two or three melted down and resorted to name calling. Now, I'm not a scientist so I don't know about the need to hire prostitutes being imprinted in one's DNA, but the relative low percentage of men who engage in such activities on a chronic basis suggests otherwise.
[QUOTE=Skatar018;2944269]No one is shooting the messenger, it's just that you're not telling us anything that we do not already know & have already discussed on the forums, seems you're about 4 years late.
But what is it you expect? To close up shop? That's not going to happen, that chit is primal instinct, it's encoded in our DNA which trumps any written law, regardless what the punishment or ramifications are.
So precisely what is the point you of being here?[/QUOTE]His point is to engage us in discussion so he hopes he can scare two or three sinners away from hobbying. He uses general notions that we all well familiar with and reinforces them with each of his post. He hopes that there'd be a newbie or two that he'd be able to save at the onset of their hobbying.
Notice that the only person he actually went after was the only bonafide lawyer on this board that we pretty much know indeed is a lawyer who was basically calling Jeishein14 out on his bullshit. The way to go after a lawyer is to call him incompetent in a law which that lawyer considers himself competent in. Jeishein14 knows that in most likelihood he won't be able to win legal argument with a lawyer so he had to piss him off enough to get him out of the conversation. The rest of us he considers to have as much expertise in legal matters as he does and as such no threat to him.
Don't get involved in the pros and cons of his arguments, that's exactly what he is looking for. Either ignore him or go after him personally.
For example, I believe that Jeishein14's granny in all likelihood was an escort and succeeded in encouraging her daughter to do the same and if Admin erases what I just said that's fine. I think that this caused Jeishein14 to hold a significant grudge against providers in general and men who use them, I. E. Ourselves and he is doing everything in his power to discourage us from hobbying. I'm just expressing my personal believe in regards to Jeishein14's granny, etc. I think we live in a free country where everybody are entitled to their believes.
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2944910]His point is to engage us in discussion so he hopes he can scare two or three sinners away from hobbying. He uses general notions that we all well familiar with and reinforces them with each of his post. He hopes that there'd be a newbie or two that he'd be able to save at the onset of their hobbying.
Notice that the only person he actually went after was the only bonafide lawyer on this board that we pretty much know indeed is a lawyer who was basically calling Jeishein14 out on his bullshit. The way to go after a lawyer is to call him incompetent in a law which that lawyer considers himself competent in. Jeishein14 knows that in most likelihood he won't be able to win legal argument with a lawyer so he had to piss him off enough to get him out of the conversation. The rest of us he considers to have as much expertise in legal matters as he does and as such no threat to him.
Don't get involved in the pros and cons of his arguments, that's exactly what he is looking for. Either ignore him or go after him personally.
For example, I believe that Jeishein14's granny in all likelihood was an escort and succeeded in encouraging her daughter to do the same and if Admin erases what I just said that's fine. I think that this caused Jeishein14 to hold a significant grudge against providers in general and men who use them, I. E. Ourselves and he is doing everything in his power to discourage us from hobbying. I'm just expressing my personal believe in regards to Jeishein14's granny, etc. I think we live in a free country where everybody are entitled to their believes.[/QUOTE]Actually, Howard Sprague attacked me out of the blue when I related a case that was currently unfolding in the Massachusetts Court System. Sprague went on to rely on insults and bombast and "I'm out of here!" statements to counter the actual case histories that I presented. Given my level of expertise in criminal law, I quickly realized that Sprague does not specialize in Criminal Defense Law, to which he vaguely responded that he had at some point had some exposure criminal cases.
In terms of the hypothesis that my goal is some moral or religous zealotry, I disagree. I have no investment in the actions of strangers. What started as a suggestion that hotel escort visits are not as secure as some may think has blown up into Sprague and a couple of others of his ilk launchiny impassioned exhortations defending the solicitation of prostitution, not unlike an alocholic defending his right to drink. In the end, most here will never be arrested, and a small percentage reading this post will be arrested and publicly besmirched. The question: which of you shall it be?
[QUOTE=Jeishein14;2944582]The cases I have cited are contemporary, thus making previous discussion of them impossible. The initial post that drew the ire of the barracks attorney Howard Sprague simply stated that a hotel escort visit is rife with legal pitfalls, should law enforcement seek to hang a case on an individual. From there, Howard Sprague sought to both insult me and guarantee everyone of their teflon status at a sting provided they follow his guidelines, which he never really spelled out. It appears that his guidelines consist of saying certain things and not saying others, thus causing the police open your car door for you while you drive away free as a bird. When I presented active cases law from the news and the Massachusetts Courts, two or three melted down and resorted to name calling. Now, I'm not a scientist so I don't know about the need to hire prostitutes being imprinted in one's DNA, but the relative low percentage of men who engage in such activities on a chronic basis suggests otherwise.[/QUOTE]Don't bother replying I will not see it.
I should've known better, you have no logical comprehension to even understand that the law you speak of was put info effect over 4 years ago, so yes numbnuts cases have come up in the past, now & will so in the future, so what, big whoop.
Add on to the fact that you can not comprehend that regardless of who it's with it's in our DNA to fuck, it's in our nature to do the act even if it does not result in pro-creation, it's also one of those simple things that can bring a lot of pleasure.
Which by the way if you're done fucking & procreating (I hope you didn't make any mini-yous) it's time for you to be dead & buried as you no longer have a useful purpose, least not here.
[QUOTE=Jeishein14;2944989]The question: which of you shall it be?[/QUOTE]Talking about "intent to harass". It can't get anymore "intent to harass" then this, eh? LOL.
Agree or not disagree. We know you have an agenda. That agenda comes from some sort of personal state of affairs. I have no doubt that you have no experience in criminal matters because everything you say is everybody's knowledge and mistakes you make in your examples and arguments are juvenile from legal perspective and would've never been made by a court officer, let alone VWA or a probation one. We're not talking here about you being a lawyer or a magistrate, let alone judge. You have something personal going. It's either religion or something in your family. Maybe your wife was supplementing your income by waving in passing cars from your porch, maybe your mother had some experience in escorting, maybe it's even worse and your daughter got hooked up with some drug addict and that put her out on the street corner. What you are doing here is either religion-based or something really sad that deserves sincere sympathy and you sure get mine.
Whatever it is I really think that you need to enlist the help of a specialist. When person's missions in life become so insignificant and so unnatural in nature there is a void which is just calling out to be filled! If you're disagree that this is a religious assignment then it must be something personal. Various scenarios of which I described in previous paragraph. Or maybe it's the exact opposite, maybe you're lonely, and need to join a group. Or actually I'm encouraging you to use some of the resources that we have here, on our forum. Deb, for example, is a specialist in working with a disabled hobbyists, right Deb? I suspect disabled includes not only physically disabled but disabled in a more subtle ways. Why don't you try to employ her help to help you with your issues? I'm sure she'll make you feel like $10,000 Romney bet! It would be the best investment of your life I guarantee it!
And I know I said that before in relation to some other character on this board but McLean Hospital does also come to mind. They have great staff, their specialists are second to none, one month of inpatient therapy, and you'd have so many worthier goals to fulfill then fighting the world's oldest profession, the world's most natural profession, you know that? It's by definition a losing battle that you can never win. Can't beat them. Join them! Everybody in this board would try to pitch in with helping you out Jeishein14! You will discover so many incredibly sensations that you had never imagined existed! Give up your preconceived notions Jeishein14! Get closer to real divine! Come on Jeishein14 - let loose and feel as though you're walking on air!
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2945369]Talking about "intent to harass". It can't get anymore "intent to harass" then this, eh? LOL.
Agree or not disagree. We know you have an agenda. That agenda comes from some sort of personal state of affairs. I have no doubt that you have no experience in criminal matters because everything you say is everybody's knowledge and mistakes you make in your examples and arguments are juvenile from legal perspective and would've never been made by a court officer, let alone VWA or a probation one. We're not talking here about you being a lawyer or a magistrate, let alone judge. You have something personal going. It's either religion or something in your family. Maybe your wife was supplementing your income by waving in passing cars from your porch, maybe your mother had some experience in escorting, maybe it's even worse and your daughter got hooked up with some drug addict and that put her out on the street corner. What you are doing here is either religion-based or something really sad that deserves sincere sympathy and you sure get mine.
Whatever it is I really think that you need to enlist the help of a specialist. When person's missions in life become so insignificant and so unnatural in nature there is a void which is just calling out to be filled! If you're disagree that this is a religious assignment then it must be something personal. Various scenarios of which I described in previous paragraph. Or maybe it's the exact opposite, maybe you're lonely, and need to join a group. Or actually I'm encouraging you to use some of the resources that we have here, on our forum. Deb, for example, is a specialist in working with a disabled hobbyists, right Deb? I suspect disabled includes not only physically disabled but disabled in a more subtle ways. Why don't you try to employ her help to help you with your issues? I'm sure she'll make you feel like $10,000 Romney bet! It would be the best investment of your life I guarantee it!
And I know I said that before in relation to some other character on this board but McLean Hospital does also come to mind. They have great staff, their specialists are second to none, one month of inpatient therapy, and you'd have so many worthier goals to fulfill then fighting the world's oldest profession, the world's most natural profession, you know that? It's by definition a losing battle that you can never win. Can't beat them. Join them! Everybody in this board would try to pitch in with helping you out Jeishein14! You will discover so many incredibly sensations that you had never imagined existed! Give up your preconceived notions Jeishein14! Get closer to real divine! Come on Jeishein14 - let loose and feel as though you're walking on air![/QUOTE]Wrong on all counts.
[QUOTE=Skatar018;2945197]Don't bother replying I will not see it.
I should've known better, you have no logical comprehension to even understand that the law you speak of was put info effect over 4 years ago, so yes numbnuts cases have come up in the past, now & will so in the future, so what, big whoop.
Add on to the fact that you can not comprehend that regardless of who it's with it's in our DNA to fuck, it's in our nature to do the act even if it does not result in pro-creation, it's also one of those simple things that can bring a lot of pleasure.
Which by the way if you're done fucking & procreating (I hope you didn't make any mini-yous) it's time for you to be dead & buried as you no longer have a useful purpose, least not here.[/QUOTE]I simply pointed out actual court cases that illustrate the legal pitfalls that I stated that while rare, exist.
Most men don't use prostitutes to ensure survival of the species. The DNA argument is ineffective. The chronic, unrelenting addiction to prostitutes is a psychological issue, unrelated to any evolutionary instinct.
Words like "hobby" are euphemisms intended to lessen the reality of your condition. You are engaged in an illegal, potentially deadly addiction, not stamp collecting.
Your reliance upon name calling and insults betrays your lack of any substantive argument. Not one of the cases I've posted about here can be refuted.
Come on man you and Ayatollah Khomeini have more in common then not. Sure sounds like it from your writings.
[QUOTE=Jeishein14;2945897]Wrong on all counts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2945369]Talking about "intent to harass". It can't get anymore "intent to harass" then this, eh? LOL.
Agree or not disagree. We know you have an agenda. That agenda comes from some sort of personal state of affairs. I have no doubt that you have no experience in criminal matters because everything you say is everybody's knowledge and mistakes you make in your examples and arguments are juvenile from legal perspective and would've never been made by a court officer, let alone VWA or a probation one. We're not talking here about you being a lawyer or a magistrate, let alone judge. You have something personal going. It's either religion or something in your family. Maybe your wife was supplementing your income by waving in passing cars from your porch, maybe your mother had some experience in escorting, maybe it's even worse and your daughter got hooked up with some drug addict and that put her out on the street corner. What you are doing here is either religion-based or something really sad that deserves sincere sympathy and you sure get mine.
Whatever it is I really think that you need to enlist the help of a specialist. When person's missions in life become so insignificant and so unnatural in nature there is a void which is just calling out to be filled! If you're disagree that this is a religious assignment then it must be something personal. Various scenarios of which I described in previous paragraph. Or maybe it's the exact opposite, maybe you're lonely, and need to join a group. Or actually I'm encouraging you to use some of the resources that we have here, on our forum. Deb, for example, is a specialist in working with a disabled hobbyists, right Deb? I suspect disabled includes not only physically disabled but disabled in a more subtle ways. Why don't you try to employ her help to help you with your issues? I'm sure she'll make you feel like $10,000 Romney bet! It would be the best investment of your life I guarantee it!
And I know I said that before in relation to some other character on this board but McLean Hospital does also come to mind. They have great staff, their specialists are second to none, one month of inpatient therapy, and you'd have so many worthier goals to fulfill then fighting the world's oldest profession, the world's most natural profession, you know that? It's by definition a losing battle that you can never win. Can't beat them. Join them! Everybody in this board would try to pitch in with helping you out Jeishein14! You will discover so many incredibly sensations that you had never imagined existed! Give up your preconceived notions Jeishein14! Get closer to real divine! Come on Jeishein14 - let loose and feel as though you're walking on air![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2946219]Come on man you and Ayatollah Khomeini have more in common then not. Sure sounds like it from your writings.[/QUOTE]Not sure I understand. Could you please give some examples?
[QUOTE=Jeishein14;2946026]The chronic, unrelenting addiction to prostitutes is a psychological issue, unrelated to any evolutionary instinct.[/QUOTE]Some would disagree with that statement.
[URL]https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/addicted-brains/201111/is-addiction-the-result-brain-evolution[/URL]
Here's another on the evolutionary origins of drug addiction, but it has many corollaries with sex addiction.
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1174878/[/URL]
Prostitutes enter the equation when men are unable to obtain willing partners, simply do not have the time to invest in finding them, or can not find them often enough to satisfy their needs. I say men because it's well known that even unattractive women have a much easier time finding partners than men do.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.
Hey guys I just scanned through Jeishein14's posts. It's Negsiro, the perv that raped that Indian chick in the Merrimack valley when he was still Toujula, fucking with us under different handle probably from a different e-mail account. See for yourselves, somewhere on the second page he's calling for cock like Negsiro used to do and then searching for dominatrices! Of course why didn't I think of that?! I scanned his posts wondering if us Bostonians are the only lucky ones to be bestowed with such a treasure. Of course we are! Now it makes sense. LOL.
Man, talking about a crooked mind, eh? How many personalities do you have? I hope Ted Bundy is not one of them, although I'm afraid it probably is. What are you going to reincarnate into next for us, Napoleon? Genghis Khan? I give you a suggestion, come out as some Pakistani general that kicked some Indian ass! That sounds so freaking realistic to me. Do that!
Talking about some research too, eh? All this legal staff referring to all those cases that your twisted mind invented? Man I'm impressed!
Dude, you really should seek help dude. McLean, Arbor, for God's sake every respected medical institution has a psychiatric ward. Go there! You've got issues that certainly includes some some serious identity disorders. Or maybe you had already been there and have been let out! Wouldn't put it pass you.
Or maybe you're out on bail paid by your poor maharaja parents waiting for your trial to start? I bet that's why the legal shit, eh? Yea that's probably it. You talk legal system because you went through it yourself and I suspect more then once. Yep with the way you talk as Negsiro and with the way you handled that Indian girl as still Toujula and with your multiple personalities that makes sense. Boy this is crazier then crazy, huh?
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2946780]Hey guys I just scanned through Jeishein14's posts. It's Negsiro, the perv that raped that Indian chick in the Merrimack valley when he was still Toujula, fucking with us under different handle probably from a different e-mail account. See for yourselves, somewhere on the second page he's calling for cock like Negsiro used to do and then searching for dominatrices! Of course why didn't I think of that?! I scanned his posts wondering if us Bostonians are the only lucky ones to be bestowed with such a treasure. Of course we are! Now it makes sense. LOL.
Man, talking about a crooked mind, eh? How many personalities do you have? I hope Ted Bundy is not one of them, although I'm afraid it probably is. What are you going to reincarnate into next for us, Napoleon? Genghis Khan? I give you a suggestion, come out as some Pakistani general that kicked some Indian ass! That sounds so freaking realistic to me. Do that!
Talking about some research too, eh? All this legal staff referring to all those cases that your twisted mind invented? Man I'm impressed!
Dude, you really should seek help dude. McLean, Arbor, for God's sake every respected medical institution has a psychiatric ward. Go there! You've got issues that certainly includes some some serious identity disorders. Or maybe you had already been there and have been let out! Wouldn't put it pass you.
Or maybe you're out on bail paid by your poor maharaja parents waiting for your trial to start? I bet that's why the legal shit, eh? Yea that's probably it. You talk legal system because you went through it yourself and I suspect more then once. Yep with the way you talk as Negsiro and with the way you handled that Indian girl as still Toujula and with your multiple personalities that makes sense. Boy this is crazier then crazy, huh?[/QUOTE]An incoherent rambling. Perhaps a remedial writing class?
Come on dude, leave your Perry Mason personality - you've been outed. But again Jeishein14-Negsiro-Toujula I'm impressed with the extend of your nuttiness. You're dangerous man both to yourself and to other people. You already proved that once. I'm sure you'll do it again. Get treatment before it gets out of hand.
[QUOTE=Jeishein14;2947055]An incoherent rambling. Perhaps a remedial writing class?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2946780]Hey guys I just scanned through Jeishein14's posts. It's Negsiro, the perv that raped that Indian chick in the Merrimack valley when he was still Toujula, fucking with us under different handle probably from a different e-mail account. See for yourselves, somewhere on the second page he's calling for cock like Negsiro used to do and then searching for dominatrices! Of course why didn't I think of that?! I scanned his posts wondering if us Bostonians are the only lucky ones to be bestowed with such a treasure. Of course we are! Now it makes sense. LOL.
Man, talking about a crooked mind, eh? How many personalities do you have? I hope Ted Bundy is not one of them, although I'm afraid it probably is. What are you going to reincarnate into next for us, Napoleon? Genghis Khan? I give you a suggestion, come out as some Pakistani general that kicked some Indian ass! That sounds so freaking realistic to me. Do that!
Talking about some research too, eh? All this legal staff referring to all those cases that your twisted mind invented? Man I'm impressed!
Dude, you really should seek help dude. McLean, Arbor, for God's sake every respected medical institution has a psychiatric ward. Go there! You've got issues that certainly includes some some serious identity disorders. Or maybe you had already been there and have been let out! Wouldn't put it pass you.
Or maybe you're out on bail paid by your poor maharaja parents waiting for your trial to start? I bet that's why the legal shit, eh? Yea that's probably it. You talk legal system because you went through it yourself and I suspect more then once. Yep with the way you talk as Negsiro and with the way you handled that Indian girl as still Toujula and with your multiple personalities that makes sense. Boy this is crazier then crazy, huh?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2947485]Come on dude, leave your Perry Mason personality - you've been outed. But again Jeishein14-Negsiro-Toujula I'm impressed with the extend of your nuttiness. You're dangerous man both to yourself and to other people. You already proved that once. I'm sure you'll do it again. Get treatment before it gets out of hand.[/QUOTE]You say I'm these other individuals, which clearly I'm not. If you insist on pursuing your insistence that I am, could you offer some proof? IP addresses perhaps?