"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=Dawgins;6186128]Red flags she's scammer.

1. Account name within 1-2 days.

2. A single picture of an instagram hot model.

3. Generic copy in the text.

4. Moved to text immediately.

[/QUOTE]I don't think they are all scammers, per se. Many or most are likely just fake profiles that Seeking pays someone to put up there. They are all over Bumble as well. There aren't any fake profiles of fat chicks. It is all hot ones, to make the site and the service appear to be more valuable than it actually is. But of course to those smart enough to spot them, it just wastes time having to sort through all the fakes.

[QUOTE=Dawgins;6186128]Red flags she's scammer.

1. Account name within 1-2 days.

2. A single picture of an instagram hot model.

3. Generic copy in the text.

4. Moved to text immediately.

This one is pretty easy to spot. Girls who are real and serious *tend* to put some effort into their profile and will try to feel you out a little first. That said, my favorite Katie went to text quickly and invited me over that afternoon. But she had good pictures, a real personality while talking, and this was probably 5 years ago during the golden years of SA.[/QUOTE]Generally, the only having 1 pic is a red flag, for sure. This blonde, I think, is real. She said she went to Emory & was a college student & something about her vibe made me think that part was truthful. But, obviously, her, um, "expectations" were grotesquely unreasonable. Seriously, 5-figure clothing on the wish list? LMAO!

[QUOTE=TylerDurden07;6186060][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e94d3d7a-e52b-49e3-90c8-dcc465bd007c[/URL]

After switching to text, she offered to "show (me) her tricks & talents. " She said she'd never been in an arrangement before.

Suddenly, she got it in her head that I was supposed to pay for a $325 facial she was to have today & so asked if I had Cashapp, etc.

I told her it's cash only for me & she then blocked my phone #.

Before blocking me, she sent pics & they were smokin hot.

This is the second day in a row I've had one of these hos ask me to pay for something within the first 10 minutes of meeting them. Oh well. She can take her $16,000 dresses on her wish list & try to sell it on some other sucker.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify the terminology. Her proposal is not GPS. She's not overvaluing what her sexual favors are worth. She plans to never deliver any sexual favors. Money up front is always a scam. A prospective SD will never hook up with her in person, not now, not ever. She will take the money and run until she gets banned. Then she'll set up a new profile and start running her pay me first scam all over again.

Never, ever, ever send money to a woman in advance. To quote Star Wars -- It's a trap!

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6186267]I don't think they are all scammers, per se. Many or most are likely just fake profiles that Seeking pays someone to put up there. They are all over Bumble as well. There aren't any fake profiles of fat chicks. It is all hot ones, to make the site and the service appear to be more valuable than it actually is. But of course to those smart enough to spot them, it just wastes time having to sort through all the fakes.[/QUOTE]Never seen any evidence that seeking itself is putting up fake profiles, unlike several other websites, like secret benefits.

There are plenty of scammers doing this on their own. One I have recently seen locally, a young asian college student, all the profiles have exactly the same structure, just the names and specifics are the same, they use a city name that isn't a city but just a neighborhood.

IK that there are scammers b / c I spent some time texting them, so they were entered into my phone. Then I had SnapChat search my contacts for people who had snap accounts. They returned accounts that were of guys. Including a lot of foreign guys. So there is one place these things come from.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6186344]Just to clarify the terminology. Her proposal is not GPS. She's not overvaluing what her sexual favors are worth. She plans to never deliver any sexual favors. Money up front is always a scam. A prospective SD will never hook up with her in person, not now, not ever. She will take the money and run until she gets banned. Then she'll set up a new profile and start running her pay me first scam all over again.

Never, ever, ever send money to a woman in advance. To quote Star Wars -- It's a trap![/QUOTE]Yes. I do believe you are right, which makes me feel even better about my decision.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6186517]Never seen any evidence that seeking itself is putting up fake profiles, unlike several other websites, like secret benefits.

There are plenty of scammers doing this on their own. One I have recently seen locally, a young asian college student, all the profiles have exactly the same structure, just the names and specifics are the same, they use a city name that isn't a city but just a neighborhood.

IK that there are scammers b / c I spent some time texting them, so they were entered into my phone. Then I had SnapChat search my contacts for people who had snap accounts. They returned accounts that were of guys. Including a lot of foreign guys. So there is one place these things come from.[/QUOTE]If you message the fake profiles, they will often not respond or just give lazy one word answers, without trying to get anything from you. What are they trying to scam out of you, in these cases? Maybe I bail on them before they try to get some money from me, but I doubtt it and I still suspect that Seeking, Inc. Is responsible for most of them.

I never said there weren't a lot of scammers on the site. Of course that is true as well.

I've been reading this forum for a while. There were some great advice recently. I'm new to this Seeking game, and planning to find myself a long-term SB who would be ok with PPM rather than allowances. To keep things NSA. Is it a good approach to reveal to SB that you're attached, and nothing more cannot be expected? (to keep things clear from the beginning).

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6182720]Given that I-85 and Jimmy Carter is a hotbed of hos, you will need to provide more information than "redhead in Norcross" if you're hoping for any helpful information.[/QUOTE][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/245b9aa0-5574-45d0-b4fa-7a28b3799f01[/URL]

It her but can't message through seeking Rn so I'm SOL.

[QUOTE=Sikindil;6187031]I've been reading this forum for a while. There were some great advice recently. I'm new to this Seeking game, and planning to find myself a long-term SB who would be ok with PPM rather than allowances. To keep things NSA. Is it a good approach to reveal to SB that you're attached, and nothing more cannot be expected? (to keep things clear from the beginning).[/QUOTE]Hello, welcome to the sugaring world. The way you were thinking about things is 100% correct and a real sugar baby will appreciate the honesty not all are OK with attached men, But some are. If you're looking for a long-term sugar baby be careful of the escort / transactional. They will appear to be a real sugar baby but in the long run they have a ten of you. Or more! Which is an always a bad thing, but not conducive with a long-term NSA situation!

[QUOTE=Sikindil;6187031]I've been reading this forum for a while. There were some great advice recently. I'm new to this Seeking game, and planning to find myself a long-term SB who would be ok with PPM rather than allowances. To keep things NSA. Is it a good approach to reveal to SB that you're attached, and nothing more cannot be expected? (to keep things clear from the beginning).[/QUOTE]I go ahead and tell them I'm married because it really affects my schedule and when I can meet. It does turn some women off so I'd say it's a crap shoot on whether you think you can really keep it a secret. I will say that the overwhelming majority of the women have no issues with married men and some say they prefer it for the same reason you mentioned or they just like the idea of fucking a married guy.

[QUOTE=TattoedDaddy1;6185678]Anyone try this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e5871cd0-1462-48ac-95c2-8bd04d49cbab[/URL][/QUOTE]Good luck. Her ad is full of "I know my worth" type of garbage, along with her proclaiming her great job as a "brand ambassador" which is code for chicks that walk around with a certain type of alcohol at bars trying to get you to try the brand. If you start texting with her, I'd suggest getting to brass tacks early on in the process, so when she hits you with her ridiculous number, you can stop wasting your time.

Stay Frosty.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4f1b1e85-ffd4-4a38-8241-22ef503fba3a[/URL]

Exchanged a message or two with her, then saw her on RubMD.

[URL]https://rubmd.com/atlanta-ga/fb1dd959-6cda-4fae-bf76-eb27b67a93df?ref=p[/URL]

Probably best to get with her on Rub. Figure out a nice PPM without dancing around the BS.

Stay Frosty.

[QUOTE=Sikindil;6187031]I've been reading this forum for a while. There were some great advice recently. I'm new to this Seeking game, and planning to find myself a long-term SB who would be ok with PPM rather than allowances. To keep things NSA. Is it a good approach to reveal to SB that you're attached, and nothing more cannot be expected? (to keep things clear from the beginning).[/QUOTE]I agree with 2 me4 looking2's response below. In addition, I feel like hiding the fact that I'm married will give a repeat SB reason to think she can hold something over me if she finds out. (I never give my real contact information, but that doesn't mean they won't snoop and find clues.) I tell them that the marriage is open but the wife expects me to stay discreet -- no public affection, no work functions, but dinner and drinks are always cool.

Sofia.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e3f7263c-5663-43ac-a6da-e4e1102c86b3[/URL]

I chatted with her briefly via text, and I offered up a PPM of $350. She basically told me that she's not sure that we will ever come to an arrangement and the comms have dropped way off. Has anyone else seen her?

Southern Gal.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bb77f2be-a7fc-4c7f-b0df-7ffe21428a2f[/URL]

I've exchanged a few messages with her, and it's gone basically nowhere. Perhaps I'm not her type. Again curious if anyone has any info about her. She seems to have been on the site for a while, but her activity is sporadic.

BronzeBeauty.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dd847e60-7357-4950-b68d-dc9977cd959b[/URL]

Exchanged a few messages with her. Seems real. Wants to meet up for lunch this week, I suppose to discuss arrangements. She's not the youngest woman out there, but I like her look.

[QUOTE=ReffingMan94;6160034]Was chatting with this lady until she proudly said she asks for $1000 per meeting. Yes 37 year old plump blonde says she gets that.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c523b916-b3a9-4b41-827d-73b44e94c1ba[/URL]

If anyone on here has done this I'd love to hear about it.[/QUOTE]AKA Nikki Million.

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/nikki-million[/URL]

[QUOTE=TattoedDaddy1;6185392]She quoted me 500 ppm have not pulled trigger tho.[/QUOTE]I chatted her up and got her over to snap easily enough. She's a stripper and really 19, but some other members here posted reviews and PM'd stories that show her to be unstable, and I learned my lesson awhile back that when the board warns about a girl, to take it seriously (my "lesson learned" moment [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?14265-quot-Sugar-Babies-quot-and-quot-Arrangements-quot&p=5857159&viewfull=1[/URL]#post5857159).

[QUOTE=WoodstockShane;6187372]Sofia.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e3f7263c-5663-43ac-a6da-e4e1102c86b3[/URL]

I chatted with her briefly via text, and I offered up a PPM of $350. She basically told me that she's not sure that we will ever come to an arrangement and the comms have dropped way off. Has anyone else seen her?[/QUOTE]I know different guys offer different PPMs, but I'd strongly recommend not offering anyone over 30 more than 300. If you're throwing out 350 or more PPMs you can easily get college girls for that, and if you work hard enough find some real value at sub-300.

I'd never offer more than 300 for over 30, and never more than 250 or 200 for over 35. I don't really bother much with 40+.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6187571]I know different guys offer different PPMs, but I'd strongly recommend not offering anyone over 30 more than 300. If you're throwing out 350 or more PPMs you can easily get college girls for that, and if you work hard enough find some real value at sub-300.

I'd never offer more than 300 for over 30, and never more than 250 or 200 for over 35. I don't really bother much with 40+.[/QUOTE]This wasn't a post looking for advice on what everyone else offers women over a certain age. I've read all of those posts. I was looking for information on the ladies I had included in my post.

Anyone seen this girl. Hoping for some information before I get my hopes up. LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5cfb90fd-d8a7-4f94-b0ae-25ea87d41b00[/URL]

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6174322]Here's a blast from the past. I hooked up with her several times years ago. It must be close to five years by now. The pictures are the same ones from back then, and she was a chunky then. So you may want to see current pictures of her before taking the plunge. She gave great head in the car after we met for a drink for the first time. We hooked up at a hotel a couple times for BBFSCIP after that. She doesn't host. I can't remember what the donation was after all this time.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fc59978b-7adf-4ad8-9b12-393a4f0e0000[/URL][/QUOTE]Quoting myself, but seeing Mistyefire post a couple years after I used to see her got me thinking about other experiences with MILFs from Seeking.

Whatever happened to MistressforMoney? I searched for her on SA and came up empty. Maybe she blocked me. Has anyone seen her recently? She was a great time.

What about Southern Hockey Girl? Same thing -- I can't find her profile anymore, but she was a blast.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6187571]I know different guys offer different PPMs, but I'd strongly recommend not offering anyone over 30 more than 300. If you're throwing out 350 or more PPMs you can easily get college girls for that, and if you work hard enough find some real value at sub-300.

I'd never offer more than 300 for over 30, and never more than 250 or 200 for over 35. I don't really bother much with 40+.[/QUOTE]Hear hear! (Applause).

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6187571]I know different guys offer different PPMs, but I'd strongly recommend not offering anyone over 30 more than 300. If you're throwing out 350 or more PPMs you can easily get college girls for that, and if you work hard enough find some real value at sub-300.

I'd never offer more than 300 for over 30, and never more than 250 or 200 for over 35. I don't really bother much with 40+.[/QUOTE]I'm one of those who often debates the same couple of cheap guys on here who get angry that wealthy guys pay more to secure a prime sugar baby than they are willing to pay. However, the key word in my sentence is "prime. " I really can't argue with these guidelines at all. I'll pay 300 to 400 (and once or twice, a little more) for a gorgeous sugar baby in her early 20's, before father time diminishes their bodies -- that's a prime sugar baby. If you're paying north of 300 for a woman in her 30's or 40's, you're paying way more than you need to for a quality woman in that age bracket, who is now too old to be prime, no matter how well she keeps herself up as compared to others her age. You may prefer the MILFS. I love them too (although I wouldn't say I prefer them). But I also know they're in lower demand and I don't need to pay as much for them.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6188045]I'm one of those who often debates the same couple of cheap guys on here who get angry that wealthy guys pay more to secure a prime sugar baby than they are willing to pay. However, the key word in my sentence is "prime. " I really can't argue with these guidelines at all. I'll pay 300 to 400 (and once or twice, a little more) for a gorgeous sugar baby in her early 20's, before father time diminishes their bodies -- that's a prime sugar baby. If you're paying north of 300 for a woman in her 30's or 40's, you're paying way more than you need to for a quality woman in that age bracket, who is now too old to be prime, no matter how well she keeps herself up as compared to others her age. You may prefer the MILFS. I love them too (although I wouldn't say I prefer them). But I also know they're in lower demand and I don't need to pay as much for them.[/QUOTE]I love debates like this. For me I'm about the lifestyle, I don't care about the money I enjoy giving it. And I enjoy fucking beautiful women. I'm pretty much at 300 ppm minimum and if I like them and keep seeing them it starts to go up. If they go on vacation with me those are different situations but I don't ever let them walk away from the table feeling like they were underpaid. BTW my favorite SB who became my wife briefly ended up with 30 k on 90 days hahaha.

I get that there's people on here that that's what they get off on, but there's some of us to get off on paying. I also have a interest you could say in turning those that are trying to be escort or contact sellers into long-term babies. That doesn't always work but I am not emotionally attached to this lifestyle.

I have learned a lot from this forum it has been phenomenal, and I will have some more reviews to be posting shortly. I don't ever post a review until the end of the story, so stay tuned the next few reviews are going to be good!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/899e8bca-2729-49f1-b3c8-2d00645286e9[/URL]

Anyone tried this one before?

[QUOTE=TattoedDaddy1;6188114]I love debates like this. For me I'm about the lifestyle, I don't care about the money I enjoy giving it. And I enjoy fucking beautiful women. I'm pretty much at 300 ppm minimum and if I like them and keep seeing them it starts to go up. If they go on vacation with me those are different situations but I don't ever let them walk away from the table feeling like they were underpaid. BTW my favorite SB who became my wife briefly ended up with 30 k on 90 days hahaha.

I get that there's people on here that that's what they get off on, but there's some of us to get off on paying. I also have a interest you could say in turning those that are trying to be escort or contact sellers into long-term babies. That doesn't always work but I am not emotionally attached to this lifestyle.

I have learned a lot from this forum it has been phenomenal, and I will have some more reviews to be posting shortly. I don't ever post a review until the end of the story, so stay tuned the next few reviews are going to be good![/QUOTE]You've hit on a point I've made consistently -- why should wealthy men hold back to keep the market low for others. If I really want someone, I do what it takes within my means, whether in sugar babying or real dating. The guys complaining about keeping prices down will get outbid by me. Jeff Bezos will outbid me every time. So will you, it would seem from your post. But that's just fine. If you've got a giant bankroll as a weapon in your arsenal, none of us should be telling you not to fight off your competition without using it.

I find your comment about turning the would be escorts into long-term babies to be an interesting one too. Many here deride that approach as "captain save a ho." But I understand it. I've done it a few times. It was fruitless more often. The couple times it worked out, it was great. Don't get me wrong. I'm not out there trying to rescue drug abusers and the equivalent of backpage girls (or whatever sites replaced it).

One of you mongers must have face f at #k her hard. She wants 400 with no head. She said she had a bad experience with and old SD. Everything was a go till she threw out the 400. I replied I usually do 200 with head, and golly, never heard back from her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e2a5f3fe-4f1a-463b-bf7a-3e7a50d98039[/URL]

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6188318]You've hit on a point I've made consistently -- why should wealthy men hold back to keep the market low for others. .[/QUOTE]You are partly missing the point of many of the comments on this topic. It is about not "holding back". It's about overpaying for what you can get for less. If it turns you on to pay $500 for a girl who would accept $250, then go for it, but you are still overpaying.

The market decides how much these girls are worth.. and individually, we are one small part of the market. The point is to not pay above the market price, unless again, you have a fetish for doing so, in which case I suppose carry on..

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6188654]You are partly missing the point of many of the comments on this topic. It is about not "holding back". It's about overpaying for what you can get for less. If it turns you on to pay $500 for a girl who would accept $250, then go for it, but you are still overpaying.

The market decides how much these girls are worth.. and individually, we are one small part of the market. The point is to not pay above the market price, unless again, you have a fetish for doing so, in which case I suppose carry on..[/QUOTE]Thank you!!

Finally a poster on here who has some damn sense!

Why pay $50 for a snicker bar, when they really cost $2?

Hurry durr durr I'm rich so it's not my problem you don't want to buy the $50 Snickers bar.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6188654]You are partly missing the point of many of the comments on this topic. It is about not "holding back". It's about overpaying for what you can get for less. If it turns you on to pay $500 for a girl who would accept $250, then go for it, but you are still overpaying.

The market decides how much these girls are worth.. and individually, we are one small part of the market. The point is to not pay above the market price, unless again, you have a fetish for doing so, in which case I suppose carry on..[/QUOTE]There are more reasons to pay extra on a case by case basis than simply "a fetish for doing so." For example:

-- It's true that a general market as you describe exists. But the market price doesn't apply to every data point within it. If there's a woman who insists on more (despite efforts to get her to take less), one might overpay versus the market just to close the deal with that particular woman.

-- In other cases, with an inexperienced younger sugar baby (not a hardened veteran), overpaying the first time can get her comfortable and set the stage for a better long term arrangement (assuming, of course, that a longer term arrangement is your goal).

-- Paying more can save lots of time spent messaging countless additional women trying to find one who will take less. This is the reason for me when I'm traveling. I don't generally overpay, but I do when I'm out of town and need to close a deal for that specific night. I overpay every now and then at home too when I'm swamped at work. For very busy professionals, I think this is the most common reason.

A fetish for overpaying seems a lot less likely to me as a motivator than the reasons above. And there may be other rational reasons to overpay than just these from off the top of my head.

[QUOTE=Krillin;6188178][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/899e8bca-2729-49f1-b3c8-2d00645286e9[/URL]

Anyone tried this one before?[/QUOTE]We chatted and moved to text, but she wanted 1000 ppm and wasn't open to negotiating. I politely declined.

No. They're not missing the point. The point you keep trying to make with your over paying "argument is the exact same point others are trying to make with raising the market. If I as an older dude pay a beautiful younger woman $400 to spend to bang when I have the time to do so, means she's getting some extra bucks because I'm older and most likely outside the norm of what she is usually attracted to. A younger man who's good looking and in better shape can most likely pay a lot less. That's the truth here. If you're looking for market priced ho's head over to list crawler.

The market decides how much these girls are worth. And individually, we are one small part of the market <-- Again. BS. No one on this board has the right to say what a woman is worth to another man. Period. If you do that, it's just out of spite. Market economics surely don't apply to the sugar world unless you're taking to UTR list crawler chicks that are having upwards of 10 dates every week, and have 'set their own market" for their services. The young college girl, the cute soccer mom. They don't operate this way.

If you think that all the complaining about those paying higher prices will suddenly lead to a massive market correction for SB's. You're just pissing in the wind. It only serves to keep SB adventures to themselves, and not have to listen to the same few dudes crying about it.

Stay Frosty.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6188318]You've hit on a point I've made consistently -- why should wealthy men hold back to keep the market low for others. If I really want someone, I do what it takes within my means, whether in sugar babying or real dating. The guys complaining about keeping prices down will get outbid by me. Jeff Bezos will outbid me every time. So will you, it would seem from your post. But that's just fine. If you've got a giant bankroll as a weapon in your arsenal, none of us should be telling you not to fight off your competition without using it.

I find your comment about turning the would be escorts into long-term babies to be an interesting one too. Many here deride that approach as "captain save a ho." But I understand it. I've done it a few times. It was fruitless more often. The couple times it worked out, it was great. Don't get me wrong. I'm not out there trying to rescue drug abusers and the equivalent of backpage girls (or whatever sites replaced it).[/QUOTE]A lot of good points being made by a few different posters. My 2 cents:

1) The SA sub price chases away most of the truly "cheap" guys who waste their time and gas running after the LC / STG girls and wasting way more of their time and energy than they might otherwise spend if they went a little higher quality or even the SB route. It's my read that MOST of the guys that regularly post here are NOT the "cheap" guys.

2) Bezos will outbid you every time, but Bezos isn't bidding Ferrari prices for a Ford either. My original post I wasn't scolding the guy for paying too much necessarily, just pointing out that he's paying new sports car prices for a used sedan so to speak. Someone can pay $300 for a haircut or get a $30 cut, that's up to them and their preference. But walking into a "Great Clips" or other budget salon and paying 300 for a 30 haircut isn't a great decision, and if I see a guy doing it, I feel like I should give them a heads up they are way overpaying.

3) The market supports what the market supports. Fortunately, there's a much larger supply of SBs than Bezos SDs, and most SDs in the higher earner market aren't playing in the same market as I am. They can pay top dollar for the wannabe instagram models, I'm very content with my 200-300 alt / hippy girls and late 20's single moms.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMapalo;6154315][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c6ed7787-183e-47f2-b724-3dcf2a2099c9[/URL]

Chic messaged me on Secret Benefits and the Seeking site. I subscribed to Secret Benefits a month and a half ago and she messaged back wanting $250 ppm. She would cum to me but when I googled her number, I came back with this:

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/atlanta-meet-up-specials/48298743[/URL]

Smdh. She promised 2 pops but I don't trust the word of any chic that posted on Listcrawler. Smh. She was only posted on Listcrawler for 2 days though. Anyone seen her?[/QUOTE]She hit me up on SA. I was willing to give her a try whenever I would be near her area. She regularly text me asking to see me, and I would tell her I was busy, and didn't know when I'd be down in her area. Last message she sent to me was asking if I could be "generous" and she'll do something for me virtually, so I blocked her after that.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6188896]A lot of good points being made by a few different posters. My 2 cents:


3) The market supports what the market supports. Fortunately, there's a much larger supply of SBs than Bezos SDs, and most SDs in the higher earner market aren't playing in the same market as I am. They can pay top dollar for the wannabe instagram models, I'm very content with my 200-300 alt / hippy girls and late 20's single moms.[/QUOTE]I've seen the upper market for sugar babies as I have a friend who I've been a wingman for in Naples where he did have a 2nd home "Irma took out the entire structure" Now we are both single & in our early 50's, I'm pretty well off with an annual income of over $200 k a year, & can afford to drop about $2 k a month on sugar related activities. He has a net worth just past $25 million & earns over $1 million a year just off of his dental practice to give you an idea of his spending power.

The higher end sugar babies are not on SA but you find them at $1 k a night dinners for political fund raisers or at a $500 a ticket white tie party for the SPCA. About 50% of them are late 20's to mid 30's models who have been in magazines or other photo shoots, failed actresses who have gotten some screen time, etc. Ie the trophy wife circuit.

It's much more of a mistress type of arrangement where you are dropping $5 to 10 k a month to keep them in their lifestyle, and the majority of them are looking to marry a whale like him not sugar date for more than 12 months. I went out with them & one of her friends who was a solid 9, after a few more dates with her which I couldn't really afford, & once she found out I didn't have a $10 million net worth she pretty much ghosted me. I've seen some solid 10's with Harvey Weinstein types who you know are paying thru the nose to be with them at these functions.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;6189124]I've seen the upper market for sugar babies as I have a friend who I've been a wingman for in Naples where he did have a 2nd home "Irma took out the entire structure" Now we are both single & in our early 50's, I'm pretty well off with an annual income of over $200 k a year, & can afford to drop about $2 k a month on sugar related activities. He has a net worth just past $25 million & earns over $1 million a year just off of his dental practice to give you an idea of his spending power.

The higher end sugar babies are not on SA but you find them at $1 k a night dinners for political fund raisers or at a $500 a ticket white tie party for the SPCA. About 50% of them are late 20's to mid 30's models who have been in magazines or other photo shoots, failed actresses who have gotten some screen time, etc. Ie the trophy wife circuit.

It's much more of a mistress type of arrangement where you are dropping $5 to 10 k a month to keep them in their lifestyle, and the majority of them are looking to marry a whale like him not sugar date for more than 12 months. I went out with them & one of her friends who was a solid 9, after a few more dates with her which I couldn't really afford, & once she found out I didn't have a $10 million net worth she pretty much ghosted me. I've seen some solid 10's with Harvey Weinstein types who you know are paying thru the nose to be with them at these functions.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a fun friend to have. My stratospherically rich friends are on the straight and narrow in their marriages, so no such luck for me and my (comparatively) measly seven figure net worth.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6189151]Sounds like a fun friend to have. My stratospherically rich friends are on the straight and narrow in their marriages, so no such luck for me and my (comparatively) measly seven figure net worth.[/QUOTE]Wait until they get divorced & go fucking crazy like he did. Dude was a nerd in school, married a homely ass fat girl who pumped him out 3 kids & just got fatter. Once she shut the pussy down he started to step out until a white knight ratted him out to the church congregation prompting her to file for divorce. After he wrote her a $7 million check, 1/2 of his net worth at the time he went fucking bonkers, I was married during this time & missed out per another buddy on some crazy ass vegas vacations.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6187854]Quoting myself, but seeing Mistyefire post a couple years after I used to see her got me thinking about other experiences with MILFs from Seeking.

Whatever happened to MistressforMoney? I searched for her on SA and came up empty. Maybe she blocked me. Has anyone seen her recently? She was a great time.

What about Southern Hockey Girl? Same thing -- I can't find her profile anymore, but she was a blast.[/QUOTE]We got off on a tangent about markets and prices. (Sorry. My fault, although I think a few of us found the exchange of differing opinions on the subject to be interesting).

Now to resurrect a discussion that got pushed down that was on topic:

Has anyone seen MistressforMoney or SouthernHockeyGirl lately? I can't find my contact information for them, and I can't find their profiles on SA either. I'm hoping one or both is still in the SB game. I've been in a mood for a MILF lately.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6188896]A lot of good points being made by a few different posters. My 2 cents:

2) Bezos will outbid you every time, but Bezos isn't bidding Ferrari prices for a Ford either. My original post I wasn't scolding the guy for paying too much necessarily, just pointing out that he's paying new sports car prices for a used sedan so to speak. Someone can pay $300 for a haircut or get a $30 cut, that's up to them and their preference. But walking into a "Great Clips" or other budget salon and paying 300 for a 30 haircut isn't a great decision, and if I see a guy doing it, I feel like I should give them a heads up they are way overpaying. [/QUOTE]G4 G this is a great summary. I see both sides of the argument, and there's great nuance here. Ripper.

Saw her a year ago at hotel in Alpharetta. Seemed to go pretty good, talked a bit, did the deed and she said she had a headache. I said I'd go to desk and see if any aspirin or shit. Took all my stuff of course but when got back she was gone. Took the stairs I assume. Really funny that there was no need to. I don't remember the sex so that must say it wasn't stellar. $200 I'm pretty sure.

[QUOTE=WoodstockShane;6187372]Sofia.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e3f7263c-5663-43ac-a6da-e4e1102c86b3[/URL]

I chatted with her briefly via text, and I offered up a PPM of $350. She basically told me that she's not sure that we will ever come to an arrangement and the comms have dropped way off. Has anyone else seen her?

Southern Gal.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bb77f2be-a7fc-4c7f-b0df-7ffe21428a2f[/URL]

I've exchanged a few messages with her, and it's gone basically nowhere. Perhaps I'm not her type. Again curious if anyone has any info about her. She seems to have been on the site for a while, but her activity is sporadic.

BronzeBeauty.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dd847e60-7357-4950-b68d-dc9977cd959b[/URL]

Exchanged a few messages with her. Seems real. Wants to meet up for lunch this week, I suppose to discuss arrangements. She's not the youngest woman out there, but I like her look.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6189483]We got off on a tangent about markets and prices. (Sorry. My fault, although I think a few of us found the exchange of differing opinions on the subject to be interesting).

Now to resurrect a discussion that got pushed down that was on topic:

Has anyone seen MistressforMoney or SouthernHockeyGirl lately? I can't find my contact information for them, and I can't find their profiles on SA either. I'm hoping one or both is still in the SB game. I've been in a mood for a MILF lately.[/QUOTE]I could have sworn I saw her profile pop back up a few weeks ago. She must've taken it back down, because a search brought up nothing. I'm pretty sure she's still out there though.