Ok so I got stood up by the clayton location yesterday and as an apology they are giving me a free hh with elaina but I was told to bring a tip for my therapist. How much should I bring? I don't want to over or under tip.
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Ok so I got stood up by the clayton location yesterday and as an apology they are giving me a free hh with elaina but I was told to bring a tip for my therapist. How much should I bring? I don't want to over or under tip.
I think I would tip $50 although some might think that was too high.
[QUOTE=BoobsMcghee;3510467]Ok so I got stood up by the clayton location yesterday and as an apology they are giving me a free hh with elaina but I was told to bring a tip for my therapist. How much should I bring? I don't want to over or under tip.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BoobsMcghee;3510467]Ok so I got stood up by the clayton location yesterday and as an apology they are giving me a free hh with elaina but I was told to bring a tip for my therapist. How much should I bring? I don't want to over or under tip.[/QUOTE]Was it Elaina that stood you up? If yes $50 is maybe a touch high. If no. Then I'd give a min of $50 to possibly up to $100 depending on her attitude and how she takes care of you.
Been on the hunt for a decent Asian. Most are older women and aren't attractive. Any luck in some cute ones out there? Can you vouche for the services?
[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/family-friendly-chinese-massage-grand-opening/12215413[/URL]
Finally a place where the whole family can DIY.
Haha. That's funny. So Lily's never changed from DIY to providing any extras?
[QUOTE=MeatHammer;3513043][URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/family-friendly-chinese-massage-grand-opening/12215413[/URL]
Finally a place where the whole family can DIY.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChinnaSwami;3513715]Haha. That's funny. So Lily's never changed from DIY to providing any extras?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure. If you go to one place enough you'll find a nut. I only go here and still get mixed results. Never have the desk girl massage you. One is hot and young and one is old. They both are terrible. The rest are okay. I tip $10 to $30
http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/636-220-1588-‿-healthy-body-day-spa/28121963
Sorry link won't URL. Manchester day spa
Anyone try EASYTIME ESCOURTS?
Are any of the pics real? What kind of services do they have?
This looks like a new one in the Four Seasons Shopping Center in Chesterfield at Woods Mill and Olive. Anyone been there yet?
[URL]https://stlouis.craigslist.org/thp/d/sufei-spa-grand-opening-big/6268451405.html[/URL]
Maybe it was just me but I had assumed Lake retired and that the girls just stayed together to form a new business. Apparently that's not the case as I saw an ad up today where Lake is looking for some new girls. I always thought Lake did a great job with scheduling and keeping everyone happy so I'm very interested to see who she brings on board. Anyone know what on earth happened to make her main talent leave to do their own thing?
[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/we-are-looking-for-some-fresh-faces-for-our-award-winning-team-think-you-have-what-it-takes/30838893[/URL]
[QUOTE=DirtyDuke;3514508]Maybe it was just me but I had assumed Lake retired and that the girls just stayed together to form a new business. Apparently that's not the case as I saw an ad up today where Lake is looking for some new girls. I always thought Lake did a great job with scheduling and keeping everyone happy so I'm very interested to see who she brings on board. Anyone know what on earth happened to make her main talent leave to do their own thing?[/QUOTE]Yes, I saw that also!
My experience with lake was awful. I had great experiences with the girls at ygnd but lake was extremely controlling. There was a situation where I was debating doing two hours and I told lake I'd ask the girl what it entailed and she flipped out and said everything goes through her. Told me it was no longer available and was very rude about it. Two hours later I got a text saying I'd been blacklisted, which I immediately laughed because I'd always been very chill with the provider. So I asked why and she gave me a massive list of reasons that wasn't even close to my experience then told me she was the best in the business for years and kept 'flexing'. I moved on and just never went back and know for a fact that the girl in question did not blacklist me.
There's a long story with this but needless to say In my experience she made alot of mistakes that reflected on the girls and they got tired of it. Maybe some of you didn't experience what I did but I thought she was the absolute worst and glad to see karma get her back.
I didn't feel like a very important person under Cindy's care, to say the least. I decided to treat myself to a nice massage today to celebrate some good news, and splurged for the 90 minute session after thoroughly enjoying the 60 minute rubdown three previous times. Instead of being shown to my usual masseuse, I was introduced to an older, overweight woman named Cindy.
I felt every passing second of the ninety minutes. I think she actually ended up stiffing me by about twenty minutes, but I was grateful to go. For the first 45 minutes of the massage, she simply rand her hands in a slow figure eight on my upper back. There was no pressure. It felt like nothing. That's the kind of half-assed massage your wife gives you while she's watching The Great British Bake-Off.
Each time I was about to say something, she would stop and move elsewhere, and I'd think, "finally. " Then, right one cue, the slow figure eight would begin again. I'm nonconfrontational, but I finally got irritated enough to sit up and ask her to move to my legs or something, when I noticed that the door was wide open. I had to ask her to close it three times before she finally did. First, she closed it halfway. Then, she pressed the door against the frame, leaving it open just a crack. I insisted again, and it finally clicked shut.
After an hour of a massage in which I was doing the most of the work, not so subtly trying to direct her attention elsewhere while she wore a path in my back skin, she finally told me to flip over. However, rather than finishing it up and releasing me from this hell of my own devisement, she started demanding to know what I was going to tip her to finish the experience. I didn't want to answer, but she persisted, asking "how much? How much? How much?" Each time giving me a little pat. I simply kept saying, "yes, you'll get a tip," but she wanted numbers.
When it became clear that I wasn't going to answer, she answered for me. "Fifty dollar. " I shook my head. "Fifty dollar?" Nothing. "Fifty dollar, okay?" Nope. "Okay, fifty dollar. ".
I let her do what she did. Ended up thrusting a handful of fives and singles, no more than twenty bucks at her, and leaving before she could make a scene about it. She's lucky she got that. I left today ANYTHING but happy. Terrible massage, high pressure sales tactics, no relaxation at all.
Long story short, if Cindy is the only girl available, you are better served just walking away.
[QUOTE=BiggWest;3514700]Yes, I saw that also![/QUOTE]I had a visit with Lilia earlier this week and she said the issue was not personal or some form of animosity with Lake. It was purely based on Lake not keep her ladies busy with clients. Just a steady decrease in visits each week for the last 6-8 months. No doubt Angel has them buzzing. Hard to get an appointement with these ladies right now. By the way, if you've never seen Lilia, you are simply a fool.
[QUOTE=ChuckFinley5;3515038]I didn't feel like a very important person under Cindy's care, to say the least. I decided to treat myself to a nice massage today to celebrate some good news, and splurged for the 90 minute session after thoroughly enjoying the 60 minute rubdown three previous times. Instead of being shown to my usual masseuse, I was introduced to an older, overweight woman named Cindy.
I felt every passing second of the ninety minutes. I think she actually ended up stiffing me by about twenty minutes, but I was grateful to go. For the first 45 minutes of the massage, she simply rand her hands in a slow figure eight on my upper back. There was no pressure. It felt like nothing. That's the kind of half-assed massage your wife gives you while she's watching The Great British Bake-Off.
Each time I was about to say something, she would stop and move elsewhere, and I'd think, "finally. " Then, right one cue, the slow figure eight would begin again. I'm nonconfrontational, but I finally got irritated enough to sit up and ask her to move to my legs or something, when I noticed that the door was wide open. I had to ask her to close it three times before she finally did. First, she closed it halfway. Then, she pressed the door against the frame, leaving it open just a crack. I insisted again, and it finally clicked shut.
After an hour of a massage in which I was doing the most of the work, not so subtly trying to direct her attention elsewhere while she wore a path in my back skin, she finally told me to flip over. However, rather than finishing it up and releasing me from this hell of my own devisement, she started demanding to know what I was going to tip her to finish the experience. I didn't want to answer, but she persisted, asking "how much? How much? How much?" Each time giving me a little pat. I simply kept saying, "yes, you'll get a tip," but she wanted numbers.
When it became clear that I wasn't going to answer, she answered for me. "Fifty dollar. " I shook my head. "Fifty dollar?" Nothing. "Fifty dollar, okay?" Nope. "Okay, fifty dollar. ".
I let her do what she did. Ended up thrusting a handful of fives and singles, no more than twenty bucks at her, and leaving before she could make a scene about it. She's lucky she got that. I left today ANYTHING but happy. Terrible massage, high pressure sales tactics, no relaxation at all.
Long story short, if Cindy is the only girl available, you are better served just walking away.[/QUOTE]This is a little concerning because it sounds like not only was she probably not licensed but also not counseled on how things work while not breaking any laws. Don't have to remind anyone here, but plainly negotiating "this" for "that" is always taking an unnecessary risk for either party.
[QUOTE=ChuckFinley5;3515038]I didn't feel like a very important person under Cindy's care.[/QUOTE]Oh wow. So that was her name. She said so mumbled I didn't understand. Had a visit last week. She's the one I got. Her appearance is kinda like one Of those hotel maids you are that have no sexual appeal at all. So maybe she give an excellent massage? Nope, one of the worst. Maybe she has a great personality? Like a brick wall. She has made me re- think ever going to VIP until I am certain there is no chance she works there. I gave her a bare minimum tip, probably not the only one, probably why she's trying to hard sell now.
[QUOTE=RubsAreFun;3514396]This looks like a new one in the Four Seasons Shopping Center in Chesterfield at Woods Mill and Olive. Anyone been there yet?
[URL]https://stlouis.craigslist.org/thp/d/sufei-spa-grand-opening-big/6268451405.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, just like all the rest, and not in a good way. Younger gal running the place, older gal, probably 50-60 doing the massage. Like watching paint dry, but with fewer clothes on.
[QUOTE=MeatHammer;3513043][URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/family-friendly-chinese-massage-grand-opening/12215413[/URL]
Finally a place where the whole family can DIY.[/QUOTE]HA HA. At least that's a real photo of Heather.
[QUOTE=Swirl1989;3509153]Anyone seen or have info on Destiny?
Small AA with a smokin body.
Pics appear to be legit. Curious if she's the real deal and what's on the table.
[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-with-destiny/29674788[/URL][/QUOTE]Photos are real. Has a nice grip and knows how to stroke it. Some monger said she does FS for $. 7 after you see her a couple of times.
[QUOTE=PoolSideChair;3515124]I had a visit with Lilia earlier this week and she said the issue was not personal or some form of animosity with Lake. It was purely based on Lake not keep her ladies busy with clients. Just a steady decrease in visits each week for the last 6-8 months. No doubt Angel has them buzzing. Hard to get an appointement with these ladies right now. By the way, if you've never seen Lilia, you are simply a fool.[/QUOTE]Interesting to hear of Drake's experience of being blacklisted. A few months ago, I made an appt with Tammy and 15 minutes after she confirmed, I remembered an engagement and had to cancel. And she blacklisted me. It was still 4 hours before the appt! And it was for the.
I was there last week as well and I had a similar experience. I believe she told me her name was Celina.
I believe she is just saying a different name each time. I was sold 10 min short and she did do some head massage after but it was so light that it seemed it was just to kill some time. The worst massage I've ever had.
[QUOTE=Hesdeadjim;3515589]Oh wow. So that was her name. She said so mumbled I didn't understand. Had a visit last week. She's the one I got. Her appearance is kinda like one Of those hotel maids you are that have no sexual appeal at all. So maybe she give an excellent massage? Nope, one of the worst. Maybe she has a great personality? Like a brick wall. She has made me re- think ever going to VIP until I am certain there is no chance she works there. I gave her a bare minimum tip, probably not the only one, probably why she's trying to hard sell now.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChuckFinley5;3515038]I didn't feel like a very important person under Cindy's care, to say the least. I decided to treat myself to a nice massage today to celebrate some good news, and splurged for the 90 minute session after thoroughly enjoying the 60 minute rubdown three previous times. Instead of being shown to my usual masseuse, I was introduced to an older, overweight woman named Cindy.
I felt every passing second of the ninety minutes. I think she actually ended up stiffing me by about twenty minutes, but I was grateful to go. For the first 45 minutes of the massage, she simply rand her hands in a slow figure eight on my upper back. There was no pressure. It felt like nothing. That's the kind of half-assed massage your wife gives you while she's watching The Great British Bake-Off.
Each time I was about to say something, she would stop and move elsewhere, and I'd think, "finally. " Then, right one cue, the slow figure eight would begin again. I'm nonconfrontational, but I finally got irritated enough to sit up and ask her to move to my legs or something, when I noticed that the door was wide open. I had to ask her to close it three times before she finally did. First, she closed it halfway. Then, she pressed the door against the frame, leaving it open just a crack. I insisted again, and it finally clicked shut.
After an hour of a massage in which I was doing the most of the work, not so subtly trying to direct her attention elsewhere while she wore a path in my back skin, she finally told me to flip over. However, rather than finishing it up and releasing me from this hell of my own devisement, she started demanding to know what I was going to tip her to finish the experience. I didn't want to answer, but she persisted, asking "how much? How much? How much?" Each time giving me a little pat. I simply kept saying, "yes, you'll get a tip," but she wanted numbers.
When it became clear that I wasn't going to answer, she answered for me. "Fifty dollar. " I shook my head. "Fifty dollar?" Nothing. "Fifty dollar, okay?" Nope. "Okay, fifty dollar. ".
I let her do what she did. Ended up thrusting a handful of fives and singles, no more than twenty bucks at her, and leaving before she could make a scene about it. She's lucky she got that. I left today ANYTHING but happy. Terrible massage, high pressure sales tactics, no relaxation at all.
Long story short, if Cindy is the only girl available, you are better served just walking away.[/QUOTE]Cindy is the short plump lady with the rings that hurts? Every time I go to that place, I usually see the short plump lady and the other more attractive lady that helps you put your clothes back on. Since their English weren't that good, I couldn't understand what they were saying most of the time or hear their names so I have no idea who is who. Is it only those two though? I did see a young girl who looked like she could be in college but I assumed she was probably a relative since I only saw her once. Maybe I'm just going there at a bad time. What's a good hour that they should have more girls in there?
Anyone try this girl near the airport? Looks TGTBT.
[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/erotic-body-rub-massage-314-474-8874/23776250[/URL]
Thanks.
[QUOTE=PoolSideChair;3515124]I had a visit with Lilia earlier this week and she said the issue was not personal or some form of animosity with Lake. It was purely based on Lake not keep her ladies busy with clients. Just a steady decrease in visits each week for the last 6-8 months. No doubt Angel has them buzzing. Hard to get an appointement with these ladies right now. By the way, if you've never seen Lilia, you are simply a fool.[/QUOTE]So they left because they are losing business? Well one week into their new world pricing just jumped today to $145/ hr. That isn't a very good way to get MORE clients. I was going to go visit Lilia today but once I saw that I'll go see Jessica at YGND instead.
Yes, it looks like the price has gone up although if you look at Lake's YGND website it now says $150 an hour. On behalf of both groups I will say that the $125 rate had been in effect for a very long time. It was my understanding that Lake would get $40 while the girl would get $85. I think the plan now for JustCallAnAngel is that Angel gets $45 and the girl gets $100.
[QUOTE=LetsHaveFun72;3518062]So they left because they are losing business? Well one week into their new world pricing just jumped today to $145/ hr. That isn't a very good way to get MORE clients. I was going to go visit Lilia today but once I saw that I'll go see Jessica at YGND instead.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LetsHaveFun72;3518062]So they left because they are losing business? Well one week into their new world pricing just jumped today to $145/ hr. That isn't a very good way to get MORE clients. I was going to go visit Lilia today but once I saw that I'll go see Jessica at YGND instead.[/QUOTE]I have not dog in this fight, but I cannot imagine they'd be losing business from complaints. Only comment was Lake seemed to be somewhat slow in scheduling for them and the issue became problematic when only half of their time slots were being filled for weeks on end. As for price, the increase stinks, but you are a lucky one to get an appointment. I've tried, but they've been completely booked out since they left YGND. Noticed Lake's add for new ladies. No doubt she knows how to hire talent. I'll go see them if she remains at 125.
Anyone try the Saturday special? [URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/aspen/30987708[/URL].
[QUOTE=LetsHaveFun72;3518062]So they left because they are losing business? Well one week into their new world pricing just jumped today to $145/ hr. That isn't a very good way to get MORE clients. I was going to go visit Lilia today but once I saw that I'll go see Jessica at YGND instead.[/QUOTE]As someone else mentioned, the 125 rate has been in effect for a long time. When I was doing the basic session with one of Lake's girls, I would always leave 150 in advance so the provider would get 110, assuming Lake got 40. I just felt that the provider should know up front that she was going to get more than her basic 85 cut. Now, with the 145 rate with Angel I would probably start by leaving 160 so I'm thinking the provider would get at least 120. Considering the quality of the ladies, like Lilia, Tammy, and Jade, I just don't think that's enough of an increase to scare off that many clients. Often I, and I'm sure many others, would upgrade to at least a 200 level anyway, so the base rate was never really an issue.
Also noticed on Lake's site that the rate has been fluctuating between 125 and 150. The font in that section is darker, so it's apparent there's been some alterations in the script. Nothing wrong with a little price competition, but in the end I don't think the price increase will hurt either Angel's, or Lake's business. Keep in mind also, that the other big competition out there is with Anastasia. They're at 200/ hour, but with upgrades built in.
With all the talk about rates I was wondering if anyone could provide information about MH Erotica, as in Molly Hurst, and how those rates work. I went to the website but it seemed a little confusing with sessions ranging from $125 to $500. If anyone could provide some guidance as to which they thought was the best deal I would appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Ritewing;3518426]As someone else mentioned, the 125 rate has been in effect for a long time. When I was doing the basic session with one of Lake's girls, I would always leave 150 in advance so the provider would get 110, assuming Lake got 40. I just felt that the provider should know up front that she was going to get more than her basic 85 cut. Now, with the 145 rate with Angel I would probably start by leaving 160 so I'm thinking the provider would get at least 120. Considering the quality of the ladies, like Lilia, Tammy, and Jade, I just don't think that's enough of an increase to scare off that many clients. Often I, and I'm sure many others, would upgrade to at least a 200 level anyway, so the base rate was never really an issue.
Also noticed on Lake's site that the rate has been fluctuating between 125 and 150. The font in that section is darker, so it's apparent there's been some alterations in the script. Nothing wrong with a little price competition, but in the end I don't think the price increase will hurt either Angel's, or Lake's business. Keep in mind also, that the other big competition out there is with Anastasia. They're at 200/ hour, but with upgrades built in.[/QUOTE]
Has anyone seen this one? No name on it or attached to number in Google. She looks like a gal I used to see up in the St. Charles area a few years back who I really liked, but lost the number. Was hoping the'd resurface, but, again, might not be the same one.
[URL]https://stlouis.craigslist.org/thp/d/full-body-massage-for-men/6270286475.html[/URL]
Certainly a lot going on with the massage scene in St. Louis! Wondering if anyone knows about Lake's new girl Emma and if she is possibly the one who used to be in Clayton and then moved to Big Bend / Clayton road.
[QUOTE=LetsHaveFun72;3518062]So they left because they are losing business? Well one week into their new world pricing just jumped today to $145/ hr. That isn't a very good way to get MORE clients. I was going to go visit Lilia today but once I saw that I'll go see Jessica at YGND instead.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FartCity;3518617]Has anyone seen this one? No name on it or attached to number in Google. She looks like a gal I used to see up in the St. Charles area a few years back who I really liked, but lost the number. Was hoping the'd resurface, but, again, might not be the same one.
[URL]https://stlouis.craigslist.org/thp/d/full-body-massage-for-men/6270286475.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Been reviewed in the craigslist section.
[QUOTE=FartCity;3518617]Has anyone seen this one? No name on it or attached to number in Google. She looks like a gal I used to see up in the St. Charles area a few years back who I really liked, but lost the number. Was hoping the'd resurface, but, again, might not be the same one.
[URL]https://stlouis.craigslist.org/thp/d/full-body-massage-for-men/6270286475.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
EDIT: short version to save everyone time: Woody was stood up by her, no name
This guy has better luck
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8286-Craigslist-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3516379&viewfull=1#post3516379 [/url]
I've got a thing for piercings. I've searched the forums and not had much luck. I see that Jade from a place that is very well discussed on here has some piercings but mixed reviews on her compared to other ladies at the same firm. Will someone please PM me a no bs idea of what to expect from them. If I'm going to go premium I want to know what to expect. Please help. I'd be very grateful and willing to trade for an UTR in Fenton.
[QUOTE=Deldel;3486533][URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/therapeutic-hands-will-leave-you-happy-and-healthy-mature-american-woman/24877338[/URL]
Was in the mood for some happiness yesterday morning, but couldn't afford the inevitability of Nikki being late; so opted for this "mature" one-time hippy chick. She's probably mid 60's (think Faro), plays for the other squad (again, think Faro), but knows her way around a guy's junk. Set it up via text, she responded quickly and away I went. She does have you call her when on her street and she scopes you out to presumably weed out Johnny L or wackos. She lives in a duplex, has a couple cats and is a tad messy; but nothing like those younger druggies. We settled up, then she started a better than typical massage, with lots of glute work and very little tease. On the flip, she got right to work, making Willy very happy. As I said earlier, she knows her stuff: in my case, a nice 2-hand wringarama! Nothing else is likely on the table, but she does strip down to topless to bare those big melons.[/QUOTE]I had the same experience. Very nice.
[QUOTE=Drake7;3514758]My experience with lake was awful. I had great experiences with the girls at ygnd but lake was extremely controlling. There was a situation where I was debating doing two hours and I told lake I'd ask the girl what it entailed and she flipped out and said everything goes through her. Told me it was no longer available and was very rude about it. Two hours later I got a text saying I'd been blacklisted, which I immediately laughed because I'd always been very chill with the provider. So I asked why and she gave me a massive list of reasons that wasn't even close to my experience then told me she was the best in the business for years and kept 'flexing'. I moved on and just never went back and know for a fact that the girl in question did not blacklist me.
There's a long story with this but needless to say In my experience she made alot of mistakes that reflected on the girls and they got tired of it. Maybe some of you didn't experience what I did but I thought she was the absolute worst and glad to see karma get her back.[/QUOTE]You are right on. She freaked out on me one time and banned me. I couldn't believe it. It was extremely weird. I had to beg to get back in the "program". She was running off clients--that is what broke this up. This has been in the works for some time.
[QUOTE=MatureDude;3519761]I had the same experience. Very nice.[/QUOTE]What was the donation? If you don't mind me asking. Didn't find it in the listing.
Had been working for awhile to establish myself as a trusted regular at Healthy Body. Saw the same therapist maybe four times in four weeks. Still nothing beyond DIY, but seemed to get a little better each time, as it tends to do when you commit at any of these places. Then showed up, and my regular was no longer there and a stack of the medical intake papers, filled out, laying in plain sight on the front desk. (If your initials are DD, any number of people saw your private info, by the way. I didn't even mean to, or want to, look) Lots of chatter and yelling between workers there the entire time I was there. Stomach portion with different girl was standard tease, not bad, but below standard for these DIY joints. On flip, woman broke out the translation app on her phone, and things got a little odd. Without specifics, she was being nice and polite, but seemed suspicious of me. It seemed possible that some authority had been around. I didn't have many answers for her, besides that I didn't know her and had never seen her before. Rest of massage on back was unenthusiastic, awkward vibe, no tease, no DIY. She made it a point to make eye contact with me on the way out. Which, of course, none of this could mean anything, but just putting it out there.
[QUOTE=FartCity;3520557]Had been working for awhile to establish myself as a trusted regular at Healthy Body. Saw the same therapist maybe four times in four weeks. Still nothing beyond DIY, but seemed to get a little better each time, as it tends to do when you commit at any of these places. Then showed up, and my regular was no longer there and a stack of the medical intake papers, filled out, laying in plain sight on the front desk. (If your initials are DD, any number of people saw your private info, by the way. I didn't even mean to, or want to, look) Lots of chatter and yelling between workers there the entire time I was there. Stomach portion with different girl was standard tease, not bad, but below standard for these DIY joints. On flip, woman broke out the translation app on her phone, and things got a little odd. Without specifics, she was being nice and polite, but seemed suspicious of me. It seemed possible that some authority had been around. I didn't have many answers for her, besides that I didn't know her and had never seen her before. Rest of massage on back was unenthusiastic, awkward vibe, no tease, no DIY. She made it a point to make eye contact with me on the way out. Which, of course, none of this could mean anything, but just putting it out there.[/QUOTE]That's a shame. It was my go-to for diy. But, surely nobody put their real info on the intake form if they were at all concerned about it.