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[QUOTE=Crowhill]Push it and then look at the inspection certificate. As of two weeks ago it was last inspected in 2004. That means either the landlord breaks all kind of laws until he gets busted, or he's plugged in enough to not worry about no inspectors with no stinkin' badges. From what I've heard of RI I would bet on the latter.[/QUOTE]I would have to agree. From my understanding of Providence, it is one of the last places that is truly mafia owned and run. IMHO I think the closing of the "loophole" was nothing more than the state trying to save face and to get the likes of Donna Hughes and the rest of her feminazi brigade off their backs. As we have seen, there have been absolutely no raids involving AMPs since the new law was passed. The only people that have been busted have been independent providers and the mongers that attempted to use their services. I'm assuming they targeted these people because organized crime was not involved and not making any money from it, and therefore no one else was (I. E. Uncle LEO, receiving "donations" to turn a blind eye). It appears to me that the Providence AMP scene is very well connected, ever seen the police stickers stuck on the front window of Lily's? I would be willing to bet that all the strip clubs, AMPs, and any other sexually oriented businesses within Providence are all owned by organized crime, regardless of who the publicly announced owner may B. I don't think there is any question that this is a very corrupt city. With the amount of money these places bring in and the industry as a whole, one can only imagine how many people are on the "payroll" behind the scenes (including cops and politicians). Even after a very publicly announced change in the law the AMP scene is still blatantly operating in plain sight. In my opinion, I don't think any of us need to worry about the AMP scene suddenly disappearing anytime soon. So get out there and enjoy it!

Happy Mongering

Uncle Tug

[QUOTE=Tuglover1]Even after a very publicly announced change in the law the AMP scene is still blatantly operating in plain sight. In my opinion, I don't think any of us need to worry about the AMP scene suddenly disappearing anytime soon. So get out there and enjoy it!

Happy Mongering

Uncle Tug[/QUOTE]Amen to that! Now if I can just get the time and excuse to get down. Even a good massage would be great. Regardless of the details posted in messages, these are 'massage' parlors and there is some theraputic benefit to our visits.

There is no good reason to call out anyone in RI or PVD. This type of post is not helpful regardless of your opinions about the establishment so please be careful in making inflammatory remarks that could come back to bite you and others.

Jack

[QUOTE=Kenn Jack]There is no good reason to call out anyone in RI or PVD. This type of post is not helpful regardless of your opinions about the establishment so please be careful in making inflammatory remarks that could come back to bite you and others.

Jack[/QUOTE]
I second that, KJ. Tug is just throwing logs on a fire; one that we wish would quietly burn out...

[QUOTE=Kenn Jack]There is no good reason to call out anyone in RI or PVD. This type of post is not helpful regardless of your opinions about the establishment so please be careful in making inflammatory remarks that could come back to bite you and others.

Jack[/QUOTE]Jack, I don't think I've made any statements that are anything other than the obvious. This has been a consistent debate on this forum over whether or not our posts and thoughts here are going to have some sort of influence in the "real world." I would have to lean towards the side of no. I'm not saying don't be careful and use good judgment when you are out in the field, but to think that a statement someone were to make on a forum such as this will somehow lead to ill repercussions in the street is nothing less than a foolish self inflated stroke of one's ego. We are not that important in the grand scheme of our beloved hobby. However, I do apologize to those, such as yourself, who are rubbed the wrong way when someone, like myself, places a realistic perspective on things. I do not mean to "call anyone out," as you said. I was simply trying to let former mongers, that have been turned away from the game, due to recent changes in said laws, to maybe reconsider what has happened and perhaps get out and have some fun, that's all. I find it rather interesting though that no one else has offered a similar view of the "organized crime" influence on the industry, other than the "sex trafficing" theories, at least as far back as I've read. Again, I apologize to anyone that thinks I'm somehow bringing bad karma to the sport.

Being a realist,

Uncle Tug

Gotta side with KJ and ND53 in this 'disagreement', Tug.

Everyone knows what's going on including the Soprano effect (in all cities).
Stating the obvious as well as building code 'indiscretions' (Crowhill) does not contribute, but can/may speed up their demise.
See man-hating Melanie Shapiro's thesis and its influence in 'loophole' closing.
What we say here does, in fact/print, bear weight.
(That b*tch hates me like <real> cock! The thought of her disdain for me makes me balls tingle, LOL.)

Comes back to the age-old arguement, "because you can scream 'fire' in a crowded theatre, should you"?

I've contributed to this forum/others since the new 'insanity' (to 2 established businesses) as have others who should (IMO, can) be trusted.
If our collective input is not enough to bring back the 'unsures', so be it.

Again I'll say, IMHO if we (the forum) continue to post as we did prior to 'Donna Hughes Agenda' (every post containing some form of $/services/stagnant addresses), LE will be forced by the repressed, right-wing/church do-gooders/man-haters/ratings-driven media to act.
True, they are operating 'in the open', but the fewer 'lights' on them, the further away their eventual fruition will be.

Discretion/smart posting will prolong everyone's (that thinks like us) 'happy ending'.

(sound you don't hear is me stepping down from my soapbox)

More to follow,
J

[QUOTE=Newday53]I second that, KJ. Tug is just throwing logs on a fire; one that we wish would quietly burn out...[/QUOTE]

I would like to put another scenario on the table. It was mentioned that it is the Sopranos that keeps the AMP's open. What if it's the mayor? If the LE start raiding the AMP's then they will need to start raiding the gay clubs too. These clubs are by far worse then the AMP's. If that happens where can mayor go on a Saturday night for fun.

[QUOTE=Shredded House]I would like to put another scenario on the table. It was mentioned that it is the Sopranos that keeps the AMP's open. What if it's the mayor? If the LE start raiding the AMP's then they will need to start raiding the gay clubs too. These clubs are by far worse then the AMP's. If that happens where can mayor go on a Saturday night for fun.[/QUOTE]Haha, excellent point SH. Perhaps there are even more influences at work than I had previously considered.

[QUOTE=Jhonny8770]

Discretion/smart posting will prolong everyone's (that thinks like us) 'happy ending'.

J[/QUOTE]

Totally agree with above.
Newbies should note that posts requesting explicit info will/should go unanswered , so IMHO don't bother. Unfortunatally, a bad time to get into the game.
But not insurmountable.

Also, careful who you trust on pms. Post #'s and senior status do not always equate to a trustwothy bud ( learned the hard way)

I , too, will now step down from my soapbox.

pwh

The law said the police were to submit a report on all arrests made to the GA on Jan 20th. The date came and went and the news reported nothing. No AMPs have closed, and I have heard that a new one is opening. I guess it is true that not much has changed.

Unfortunately, I also learned that lesson the hard way and it is very good advice!

[QUOTE=Pw Herman]Also, careful who you trust on pms. Post #'s and senior status do not always equate to a trustwothy bud ( learned the hard way)
pwh[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Donna Hughes]The law said the police were to submit a report on all arrests made to the GA on Jan 20th. The date came and went and the news reported nothing. No AMPs have closed, and I have heard that a new one is opening. I guess it is true that not much has changed.[/QUOTE]

I am not so sure about that. I early/mid January I read an article about a sting operation done in a Providence hotel against people who advertised on Craig's List. The police also did a reverse sting against the guys answering the ads using a police women as a decoy. Several men and women were arrested, and I think the article mentioned that several were from Mass. I thought it interesting that the first thing I read about, with regards to enforcement of the new law, was a Craig's list sting. There is an AMP not too far from city hall and the capital. Also, they said they wanted this law as a tool to fight trafficking but the first people they go after were consenting adults. Very interesting.

[QUOTE=Rebrobate218]I am not so sure about that. I early/mid January I read an article about a sting operation done in a Providence hotel against people who advertised on Craig's List. The police also did a reverse sting against the guys answering the adds using a police women as a decoy. Several men and women were arrested, and I think the article mentioned that several were from Mass. I thought it interesting that the first thing I read about, with regards to enforcement of the new law, was a Craig's list sting. There is an AMP not too far from city hall and the capital. Also, they said they wanted this law as a tool to fight trafficking but the first people they go after were consenting adults. Very interesting.[/QUOTE]If you refer back to my earlier post, which seemed to ruffle some monger feathers, about the now dubbed "Sopranos effect" I think my hypothesis may help to answer the question of why these poor folks were the first and only unlucky victims of the new law, to date (knock on wood if you're superstitious). Someone also made the suggestion that the Mayor's "sexual preferences" may also have a direct connection to what is at question.

Uncle Tug

Tug, I went back and reviewed your previous post and cannot figure out what the dust up was about. It is commonknowledge that Mafia activity in almost all of New England is run out of Providence. Providence College named a building after a sitting Mafia Boss (Raymond Hall). You can make jokes about the mayors sexuality which I think is incorrect. At a gay club you are not paying for a service you are paying to be in the club. The state may say it is illegal for moral grounds or there is open intercourse going on in the club. At an AMP you are paying for a service which may be a ruse to pay for sex. It both cases the state has no business butting in IMHO. In a state that is almost bankrupt which had double double digit unemployment even in the good times you'ld think they have better things to do. You were right in that making it illegal takes away a source of embarresment for the state and local pols. You were right in that the cops pretty much know everything that is going on and choose what they will enforce for reasons of curruption, lack of resources, etc. Wrting about it here ain't going to change anything. They will raid a spa eventually when they or some politician needs the possitive press coverage.

Struck out at the SC's, no joy at CD or CL, so I decided to do a quick stop at CH.

An old favorite Connie is back, but I met a new spinner BB.

Maybe 5'1, definitely not 110#, waist probably about 22 inches, nice manmade C cups.

Efficient but thorough table shower, and standard FS for the Standard tip.

Recommended for those who like tiny Korean girls.

Be good.