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these 5 message me, not my cup of tea, if you find them doable, go for it, they seems dtf
[QUOTE=Shorty58;4421532]This site has everything from innocent little girls (hopefully 18 but maybe not) to seasoned pros (I. E Jennifer Janes 61 year old Former pornstar). Many young ones don't know what they want, some think we'll rent them a condo downtown for dinner and conversation, some think they will find the "Pretty Woman" dream and travel the world with Richard Gere, many young ones are just wasting time seeing if guys will proposition them, some are so naive (like one I met) who was early 20's but naive as hell and fucked me three times for long afternoons (great skills) before asking me for anything all the while telling me that the last guy she met got into her bank account and cleaned her out, and some women here are looking for a real relationship with guys who aren't broke. There are many first time women who need money, and here are where the gems are, and will spend a romantic afternoon with you for 200-300 because they know the value of money and think 800-1200 a month from a nice guy who respects her and fucks her brains out is a good deal. The GPS and pros who want major money are the ones who are doing a bunch of guys for cash already and would rather find some sucker to pay 600-1200 than sleep with 6 guys for the same cash. I'm sure there are guys out there who will pay the big bucks and some guys who will gather up the young ones to their private island. My advice is look for who you like, stick to your budget (this can be addicting, it's like [URL]amazon.com[/URL] for pussy), and if your first choice doesn't take your offer, there are thousands of fish in this pond.[/QUOTE]Well said. To add a few points:
* Know your own limits and limitations. If you're attached, fully employed, with only access to carefully allocated 'fun money', then you need to tailor your search and negotation strategy to those constraints. There's no point in pursuing girls stuck on ideas like overnights, weekends, and large fixed monthly allowances. Find ones that will do reasonable PPM and have flexible schedules. That may slant you towards more of the semi-pros, but there's still better quality and variety of those on SA than anwhere else right now.
* Analyze what you can on their profiles to try to figure out their degree of 'realness'. You want to see a bunch of crappy selfies. Slick, posed, colorful photos in upscale mansions or high-end vacation locations are either fake or scream pro. Google their SA username. You'll be surprised how many use the same names on instagram, twitter, snapchat, etc.
* Communicate your budget confidently and without getting engaged in an emotional back and forth. Many will be more open minded if they think you'll be a regular companion, versus feeling like they're settling for a bargain one and done meetup. If they react rudely to an offer, just break off contact and move on. It wasn't going to work anyway.
* A simple, not paid, meet and greet is a great facilitator to the above point. Wait if possible to pin down a price until after they've had coffee with a 'nice guy' and they're a little bit disarmed. Anyone willing to go directly to a paid BCD session without meeting is at least a semi pro no matter what they call themselves. Anyone asking for money for a simple meet and greet is not what you're looking for.
* Look at their profile history and expect easier negotiations the longer they've been on. The exception is ones who've been on for years. Then they're probably pros or lifestyle SBs with a set price menu already. But for the 'regular' girls you may sometimes have to wait for their initial high expectations to come down to earth. They join up after reading stories on blogs and expect drinks at sunset on a yacht with George Clooney after a few emails. After a few weeks of offers of lunch hours in a Red Roof with George Costanza they'll be much more willing to meet somewhere in the middle!
[QUOTE=FafaFooey;4421661]Well said. To add a few points:
* Know your own limits and limitations. If you're attached, fully employed, with only access to carefully allocated 'fun money', then you need to tailor your search and negotation strategy to those constraints. There's no point in pursuing girls stuck on ideas like overnights, weekends, and large fixed monthly allowances. Find ones that will do reasonable PPM and have flexible schedules. That may slant you towards more of the semi-pros, but there's still better quality and variety of those on SA than anwhere else right now.
* Analyze what you can on their profiles to try to figure out their degree of 'realness'. You want to see a bunch of crappy selfies. Slick, posed, colorful photos in upscale mansions or high-end vacation locations are either fake or scream pro. Google their SA username. You'll be surprised how many use the same names on instagram, twitter, snapchat, etc.
* Communicate your budget confidently and without getting engaged in an emotional back and forth. Many will be more open minded if they think you'll be a regular companion, versus feeling like they're settling for a bargain one and done meetup. If they react rudely to an offer, just break off contact and move on. It wasn't going to work anyway.
* A simple, not paid, meet and greet is a great facilitator to the above point. Wait if possible to pin down a price until after they've had coffee with a 'nice guy' and they're a little bit disarmed. Anyone willing to go directly to a paid BCD session without meeting is at least a semi pro no matter what they call themselves. Anyone asking for money for a simple meet and greet is not what you're looking for.
* Look at their profile history and expect easier negotiations the longer they've been on. The exception is ones who've been on for years. Then they're probably pros or lifestyle SBs with a set price menu already. But for the 'regular' girls you may sometimes have to wait for their initial high expectations to come down to earth. They join up after reading stories on blogs and expect drinks at sunset on a yacht with George Clooney after a few emails. After a few weeks of offers of lunch hours in a Red Roof with George Costanza they'll be much more willing to meet somewhere in the middle![/QUOTE]To have a decent success rate is to make them feel comfortable. The real ones, not the pros, do not ever want to think of themselves as hookers. They want to feel comfortable and secure. For most of my successes the $ was secondary to being a nice guy. I don't think there is a hard and fast rule though about a meet up first. I probably had 30% that just met up in the car outside the hotsheet place. Only two times did the meet not follow with an immediate naked experience. Both needed to decide I was ok and we met for sex a few days later.
Rather than asking them if they suck a bare dick I ask them if they like to kiss. I have just elevated myself from a creep to a lover. I'm in my mid-sixties and if I can get as much pussy as I have off of SA most guys should be able to. You are selling your skills as a lover not an ATM.
Randolph.
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4421384]Got her to text fairly quickly, but she is not very responsive. Says she lives at home in the burbs while she job hunts in Houston where her dad's friends has real estate connections. LinkedIn revealed no Tori's or Victorias in the chicago area that went to Alabama anytime recently.[/QUOTE]So what's the intel?
Seems a common tale. Has 3 yo, been on the site two years.
Has real job, 9-5 ish and hot pics with no evident baby damage. Not looking for a regular guy -- like meeting married men for the thrill and lack of possible future -- but asking $500+ for an evening.
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Wants $750/ meet. Came down to $450 eventually but I still declined.
Then she blew up. Saying she's better than all the rest, that girls charging less are fucking every guy on SA (somehow charging more makes her an angel? WTF) and you get what you pay for.
Then she starts throwing out all kinds of analogies like you can't get state of the art stuff at thrift store prices, that I have tons of money and the difference means nothing to me, yada yada.
That didn't work so she tried to age shame me too that she was getting $750 from a 28 year old guy and I should be thankful that she'd be with a late 40's guy for that same price rather than charging more because I'm older. Then she blocked me.
Her private pics are mostly face shots and clever poses to minimize her chubbiness but there's a couple shots where you can tell that she is clearly over weight. Body is super flabby, belly with rolls, badonkadonk flabby saggy ass. She lists as athletic on her profile but she hasn't seen the inside of a gym in years.
Goodgirl0213.
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You're welcome.
[QUOTE=PauFord;4422110]Wants $750/ meet. Came down to $450 eventually but I still declined.
Then she blew up. Saying she's better than all the rest, that girls charging less are fucking every guy on SA (somehow charging more makes her an angel? WTF) and you get what you pay for.
Then she starts throwing out all kinds of analogies like you can't get state of the art stuff at thrift store prices, that I have tons of money and the difference means nothing to me, yada yada.
That didn't work so she tried to age shame me too that she was getting $750 from a 28 year old guy and I should be thankful that she'd be with a late 40's guy for that same price rather than charging more because I'm older. Then she blocked me.
Her private pics are mostly face shots and clever poses to minimize her chubbiness but there's a couple shots where you can tell that she is clearly over weight. Body is super flabby, belly with rolls, badonkadonk flabby saggy ass. She lists as athletic on her profile but she hasn't seen the inside of a gym in years.
Goodgirl0213.
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You're welcome.[/QUOTE]WTF she is old and big / fat, she thinks she worth 450-750, I really will not do it for free, big mid 20 something message me everyday, here is another message me today, I will pass but if you guy like her, good for it [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e27eacbf-711f-44d6-9b1d-a22142591108[/URL] I do believe girls that message me first, mostly like is dtf because my profile said "nsa fwb only".
[QUOTE=Pal5600;4422167]WTF she is old and big / fat, she thinks she worth 450-750, I really will not do it for free, big mid 20 something message me everyday, here is another message me today, I will pass but if you guy like her, good for it [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e27eacbf-711f-44d6-9b1d-a22142591108[/URL] I do believe girls that message me first, mostly like is dtf because my profile said "nsa fwb only".[/QUOTE]They reached out to me too. Asking for 500 ppm for a duo session.
[QUOTE=Pal5600;4422167]WTF she is old and big / fat, she thinks she worth 450-750, I really will not do it for free, big mid 20 something message me everyday, here is another message me today, I will pass but if you guy like her, good for it [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e27eacbf-711f-44d6-9b1d-a22142591108[/URL] I do believe girls that message me first, mostly like is dtf because my profile said "nsa fwb only".[/QUOTE]They have seeking transgender listed. WTF?
Any info about this one greatly appreciated.
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This one message me today, she is dtf but not my cup of tea, good for it, if she is your.
Here is my cup of tea, I had exchange few texts in the past but she was not dtf then, maybe now, who knows? Any info would help
https://www.seeking.com/member/388f47c3-7fd8-4562-bd7f-5096b85556a8
[QUOTE=Roctiggers;4422988]Any info about this one greatly appreciated.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/275271bd-c616-4ba3-9604-3ff7c28cb232[/URL][/QUOTE]Village bycicle. Everyone has had a ride. Wear protection. Has made a porn. Was in jail in Dubai for a few months.
Travels a lot so hard to make an appointment. Heavy drug user.
[QUOTE=Roctiggers;4422988]Any info about this one greatly appreciated.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/275271bd-c616-4ba3-9604-3ff7c28cb232[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.playvids.com/v/YNBSwxNBLAl[/URL]
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This one message me, I am not interested, buy maybe you are.