Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=VMackey02;5059740]Correct me if I am wrong Sgt Sanctimonious but aren't the governors of each state not the gate keepers of who stays and who goes and the implementation of what state wide measures are put in place? Check out California and NY numbers while you are at it and then explain to me how this administration is to blame. Is it because we did not have enough ventilators to do long term lung damage to the lucky survivors or is it because the prior administration left our PPP stockrooms filled with empty air, dust bunnies, and rat bait stations? As to our testing, we have done more testing than almost any country in the world. Lastly, perhaps the reason we weren't prepared for the virus before it exploded may have something to do with the fact that the the White House, congress, and senate were embroiled in the biggest bullshit impeachment effort in all of history and the media was busy reporting on hard hitting journalism such as Trump's two scoops of ice cream. Only a myopic idiot would try and blame this all on the White House as there is plenty of responsibility to go around. Your party saw this as an election issue and put the fear of god, well ok they don't believe in god but you get my point, into their sheep and I feel blessed to be alive after narrowly avoiding the. 001% fatality rate. Make sure to raise your mask in between bites and stay safe.[/QUOTE]FYI, I voted for Trump in 2016, however this is my blunt assessment of Trump, He's a petty, petulant coward who should be locked in jail for the rest of his days. He's a disgusting human being, with not a single redeeming quality as a man, husband, father, businessman or politician. He cares nothing for anyone but himself and has no empathy, sympathy or morals. Satan himself looks upon Trump in disgust. Just today we passed a daily record of 120,000+ new cases of COVID. Hundreds of millions of us are wearing masks and or hunkered down in our communities and homes trying to make a living in this damaged economy that Trump wrecked through his negligence and stupidity, we are trying to protect the health of our loved ones and families, trying to stay safe ourselves and protect others, and this massive asshole has to go and get some self-gratification holding huge campaign rallies and possibly infect who knows how many other people in the process. He's a criminal sociopath and a major fucking asshole. There's no other way to describe it.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5059934]FYI, I voted for Trump in 2016, however this is my blunt assessment of Trump, He's a petty, petulant coward who should be locked in jail for the rest of his days. He's a disgusting human being, with not a single redeeming quality as a man, husband, father, businessman or politician. He cares nothing for anyone but himself and has no empathy, sympathy or morals. Satan himself looks upon Trump in disgust. Just today we passed a daily record of 120,000+ new cases of COVID. Hundreds of millions of us are wearing masks and or hunkered down in our communities and homes trying to make a living in this damaged economy that Trump wrecked through his negligence and stupidity, we are trying to protect the health of our loved ones and families, trying to stay safe ourselves and protect others, and this massive asshole has to go and get some self-gratification holding huge campaign rallies and possibly infect who knows how many other people in the process. He's a criminal sociopath and a major fucking asshole. There's no other way to describe it.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, he does put on a hell of show Mr. Scaramucci.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5059934]FYI, I voted for Trump in 2016, however this is my blunt assessment of Trump, He's a petty, petulant coward who should be locked in jail for the rest of his days. He's a disgusting human being, with not a single redeeming quality as a man, husband, father, businessman or politician. He cares nothing for anyone but himself and has no empathy, sympathy or morals. Satan himself looks upon Trump in disgust. Just today we passed a daily record of 120,000+ new cases of COVID. Hundreds of millions of us are wearing masks and or hunkered down in our communities and homes trying to make a living in this damaged economy that Trump wrecked through his negligence and stupidity, we are trying to protect the health of our loved ones and families, trying to stay safe ourselves and protect others, and this massive asshole has to go and get some self-gratification holding huge campaign rallies and possibly infect who knows how many other people in the process. He's a criminal sociopath and a major fucking asshole. There's no other way to describe it.[/QUOTE]So then, why did you vote for Trump again?

Stay tuned for the first episode of the Skippy Biden and ShamWow Harris dog and pony show. Like Biden won't shit himself if he had to handle a real national emergency? Wonder if ShamWow is in charge of getting Biden's adult diapers rhino lined.

As for Covid, Skippy can't do much. Most Americans are too stubborn to wear masks and virtually no business is actively enforcing it.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5059934]trying to make a living in this damaged economy that Trump wrecked through his negligence and stupidity.[/QUOTE]There were ZERO MAGA hat wearing assholes insisting that the economy gets destroyed, that was totally and completely a product of the left. You can spew as much bullshit as you want about it but blaming Trump for the covid economy is as big a lie as him saying there is fraud in the election.

The left DEMANDED that the worlds economy get destroyed and now is trying to avoid that responsibility, it's fucking disgusting.

A2.

[QUOTE=Bullett64;5057422]Can we finally stop all the bullshit about how one party is going to decimate the other in this election. As I write this, we still don't know who the next President will be, and even after the counting has ended, challenges, recounts, and lawsuits will keep thing muddled for the foreseeable future. What we do know is that this country deeply and evenly divided and that if we cannot figure out a way to work together we are screwed. Somehow, somewhere, reason must prevail.

At least the end of the election will allow us to get serious about the Covid virus. Over 100,000 new cases yesterday shows that our current tactics have been unsuccessful. The vaunted Swedish model has crumbled and they have come to the realisation that ignoring the problem will not make it go away. Unfortunately stern measures are necessary on a temporary basis until a vaccine is developed and distributed.

In the words of Pogo, "We have met the enemy and he is us. ".[/QUOTE]Go to the cdc site and observe the average daily death rate. Shouldn't our year to date tally be 200,000+ higher than last year? Also please note that covid must be the new cure for the flu. Flu deaths are almost 0.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5060318]So then, why did you vote for Trump again?

Stay tuned for the first episode of the Skippy Biden and ShamWow Harris dog and pony show. Like Biden won't shit himself if he had to handle a real national emergency? Wonder if ShamWow is in charge of getting Biden's adult diapers rhino lined.

As for Covid, Skippy can't do much. Most Americans are too stubborn to wear masks and virtually no business is actively enforcing it.[/QUOTE]Did you read what I posted? Me vote for this shit-stain again. Hell NO! Trump fucked himself by botching the COVID-19 response. Americans defer to the President in times of crisis. All Trump needed to do was say a few encouraging words and follow public health recommendations. He should have let public health officials do all the actual work and have them in front of the camera most of the time. Had he done those things, he'd probably have won his re-election in a landslide.

[QUOTE=Admin2;5060419]There were ZERO MAGA hat wearing assholes insisting that the economy gets destroyed, that was totally and completely a product of the left. You can spew as much bullshit as you want about it but blaming Trump for the covid economy is as big a lie as him saying there is fraud in the election.

The left DEMANDED that the worlds economy get destroyed and now is trying to avoid that responsibility, it's fucking disgusting.

A2.[/QUOTE]Well, the data suggests the opposite, countries that took DRAMATIC steps to protect their population's health in the pandemic have generally also protected their economy too.

[I]The charts show that countries which suffered the most severe economic downturns like Peru, Spain and the UK are generally among the countries with the highest COVID-19 death rate.

And the reverse is also true: countries where the economic impact has been modest like Taiwan, South Korea, and Lithuania have also managed to keep the death rate low.

Notice too that countries with similar falls in GDP have witnessed very different death rates. For instance, compare the US and Sweden with Denmark and Poland. All four countries saw economic contractions of around 8 to 9 percent, but the death rates are markedly different: the US and Sweden have recorded 5 to 10 times more deaths per million.[/I]

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/covid-health-economy[/URL]

You should write the sequel to Freakonmics and you can cite all your statistics and ignore the underlying root causes and shared responsibility. You still have failed to address the democrat responses in NY, IL, and CA, all of which have some of the highest rates in the country (even with draconian lockdowns) or the fact that this virus is NOT that deadly. Permanently killing the jobs of 10's of millions of people is straight up lunacy. Let me throw some truth on you while I'm at it Libtard. We are going to 200 K cases a day between Thanksgiving and Christmas. So hunker down with your loved ones, family, and 20 favorite CAMP girls (who have probably all been exposed and never knew it) and protect them. Hobbyman and I have some free time this weekend and we will build you a giant fucking cross to carry around on your back as you carry the weight of the world on your shoulders so everyone will KNOW. Take solace in the face that on Jan 20, 2021 we will all be saved when Dementia Joe takes office and has more Lids than a Tupperware party as he grinds out the 3 hour work days. We're fucked.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5060444]Well, the data suggests the opposite, countries that took DRAMATIC steps to protect their population's health in the pandemic have generally also protected their economy too. [I]The charts show that countries which suffered the most severe economic downturns like Peru, Spain and the UK are generally among the countries with the highest COVID-19 death rate. And the reverse is also true: countries where the economic impact has been modest like Taiwan, South Korea, and Lithuania have also managed to keep the death rate low. Notice too that countries with similar falls in GDP have witnessed very different death rates. For instance, compare the US and Sweden with Denmark and Poland. All four countries saw economic contractions of around 8 to 9 percent, but the death rates are markedly different: the US and Sweden have recorded 5 to 10 times more deaths per million.[/I] [URL]https://ourworldindata.org/covid-health-economy[/URL][/QUOTE]I always get a big laugh when people want to compare the large, diverse Unites States to countries that will either fit within the 5 bureaus of NY or inside the entire state of NY. The US territory covers a good 80+ % of all of Europe. Notice the select charts chosen do not include Chine or Russia for two reasons. They may be worse but most likely, we will never get a straight answer out of them.

Just because something works on a small scale does not mean it can work on a much larger scale.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5059632]The one and only reason countries around the world have gone into full lock down mode is to prevent their health care facilities from being overwhelmed. People, this is not complicated, this administration by letting the coronavirus surge through the U.S. population with minimal testing, minimal social distancing and encouraging minimal face mask wearing has allowed the U.S to become the world's largest experiment in herd immunity. We shall see how this experiment in herd immunity works out.[/QUOTE]I think you're sadly misinformed, even if you do speak from a position of absolute enlightenment. Full lock down mode has certainly not been about preventing overwhelming the hospitals in this country. Witness the way Georgia was so roundly criticized by the rest of the country, despite the fact that its hospitals were never overwhelmed. Witness the way CA and Washington state prohibited people from even going outdoors (even giving tickets for going fishing of all things!), even though their hospitals were never overwhelmed. Witness the way Sweden has been so roundly criticized when their hospitals were never in jeopardy of being overwhelmed.

Also, this was never about "herd immunity", either here or in Sweden. You should educate yourself a little better before you proclaim yourself as an expert and pretend to have all the answers.

[QUOTE=Trump45;5059772]President Trump needs to declare Martial Law. And when the Marxists riot he immediately should invoke the Insurrection Act.[/QUOTE]Clever disguise Oldti but the syntax gave you away.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5060632]I always get a big laugh when people want to compare the large, diverse Unites States to countries that will either fit within the 5 bureaus of NY or inside the entire state of NY. The US territory covers a good 80+ % of all of Europe. Notice the select charts chosen do not include Chine or Russia for two reasons. They may be worse but most likely, we will never get a straight answer out of them.

Just because something works on a small scale does not mean it can work on a much larger scale.[/QUOTE]I agree. There are two reasons that South Korea has been so successful:

1. Their about the size of Indiana, give or take.

2. Koreans are naturally nosy as shit, so contact tracing becomes easy when they can dedicate small armies of healthcare workers to track people down and test them. Can you imagine trying to do contact tracing on everyone in the US? Wonder how many millions of healthcare workers that would take and if most Americans would even respond positively to having their personal lives scrutinized.

Yes it's all over now.

Over for this country.

Over for people of my minority.

Over for the growth of this nation.

The crooked politician with dirt and blood on his hands is now running the country. Coupled with a woman of questionable identity and morals.

I now expect this country to be run into the ground by illegal aliens. This country is now WIDE OPEN for anyone to come in and take advantage of the US welfare system. Illegal immigrants who DO NOT pay taxes will take advantage of this country and all its opportunities. While hard-working tax payers fit the bill.

Only one I hate more than Biden, is SCAMala Harris. I am more concerned about Biden kicking the bucket, and allowing her to run this country.

Hopefully I am still here 4 years from now, but I don't believe things will Improve.

In 4 years this country will be run into the ground, and there will be another major war on our hands.

There is nothing left for me to say. Don't bother replying, because I have left this thread for good.

Enjoy your democratic victory, and the demise of this country. Good day or good riddance.

[QUOTE=VMackey02;5060553] Take solace in the face that on Jan 20, 2021 we will all be saved when Dementia Joe takes office and has more Lids than a Tupperware party as he grinds out the 3 hour work days. We're fucked.[/QUOTE]My sentiments exactly. And when he croaks in office, we'll have ShamWow the fake black woman running the country? Absurd.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5060632]I always get a big laugh when people want to compare the large, diverse Unites States to countries that will either fit within the 5 bureaus of NY or inside the entire state of NY. The US territory covers a good 80+ % of all of Europe. Notice the select charts chosen do not include Chine or Russia for two reasons. They may be worse but most likely, we will never get a straight answer out of them.

Just because something works on a small scale does not mean it can work on a much larger scale.[/QUOTE]China with ONE BILLION more people than the US in only 3% more land so 4 times the population density as well whcih have been exposed to Covid longer than any group in the world really, really, really, no seriously REALLY has only had 85 K cases and 4500 dead people. No seriously, really, the US is the worst in the world.

Thank god this all ends this week. Maybe another 400,000,000 lives in the third world don't need to be destroyed.

A2.