Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=JustACustomer;4094827]Sooo, Thursday night I try to set something up for Friday evening. My ATF tells me that she had a prearranged booking for her lottery winner, so I called my other ATF, willing to make the drive, and she was a no go also. I call up my one and only UTR and she says we are good for 6 pm Friday. I confirm Friday afternoon and then one hour before, I get "the text", I am not going to be ready at our appointed time. Says she wants to meet 30 minutes later, no reason given. I say I can't do it and that we could reschedule later in the weekend. She then says she can make it work. I am still learning the ropes here guys, so I did not realize that was code for "I double booked". WTF! Are you serious?" You are a UTR, and you are double booking? Anyway, did not realize that until I made the drive, arrived early, and sat in the parking lot waiting for her to get there from wherever she was coming from (my bad assumption). She then texts me that she is running 5 minutes late and that turned into 15 minutes til I get the "I am ready" text. Now wait, I just saw a guy come out of her place, so I ask her if she is home? She admits she is and actually admits to having a previous appointment. So, if it was one of you guys coming out, I saw you walking to your car. I feel bad for you because I am sure she was texting and rushing you in your session. Needless to say, I tell her I am not interested in tardy, sloppy seconds and bid her adoo and blocked her. She knows my rules, and I have no UTR now. LOL.

So, I check the review board and send out several texts and Genesis is the first to respond. Based on recent reviews by senior members, I decide to give Genesis a shot. As I am getting ready to pull out of the parking spot I was in, I get hit by another car pulling out. Long story short, I have to wait for the police and told Genesis what was going on and that we would need to reschedule. An hour or more later, I ask her if she is still available and she says yes. I tell her I can be there in 20 minutes and she says "that is perfect". I get there and she says I need to hit the local pharmacy and get her some wet wipes to clean up after our session. First of all, why don't you get your own supplies, and two, why aren't you shower fresh after each session. Again, I did not realize this was another code for "I double booked" until after I get back to the parking lot with the baby wipes and see another of you coming out, get in your car, and then get the "I am ready" text. WTF! Twice in one night! So, I am thinking, maybe Maci had that appointment, and I deliver the baby wipes. But alas, Genesis was the only one not fully clothed and immediately took out some wet wipes and went to the bathroom. Needless to say, I just couldn't do it. I gave Maci $20 as I was leaving (I am sure you guys will yell at me for that), and then they get the block. Again, I hope whichever of you guys was there did not get a bad or rushed session from her texting and such.

Conclusion: If you have to delay our appointment time FOR ANY REASON, you double booked me. If you are a provider reading this, just be on time and I won't question how recent you saw your last client. If you double book me, you get blocked and you won't get my play money. I am curious though, how do you guys handle this issue? I suspect that them double booking is a consequence of you guys canceling appointments. I have never canceled or ghosted a provider.

As always, YMMV.

JAC.[/QUOTE]I wish more guys were like you, and me!

If a provider is more than a few minutes late, I won't see her and never try again. If a provider goes crickets or is difficult to communicate with, I won't see her and she doesn't get a second chance.

Does this limit the providers I see? Yep, you bet. But the quality of my dates is much higher than what I hear people complaining about.

Regarding BB, I'm sure nearly every single girl will do it, even if not the first, the second time, because in their reasoning, they 'know' you.

For myself, she has to look like someone I'd be okay being seen with, if she weren't a hooker. So let's say the average provider or SW isn't making the cut, so I'll just do BJ, but those few gems get it. I can't do those girls who are my age or younger, but drugged themselves to look 40+.

But DATY, is a no go. I've done that with 2 AMP ladies, only because I thought it would get me FS. Both thought that I simply wanted to do it to them. One still did not give up FS, and the would have regardless. DATY does nothing for me, if I want to please someone I will do it, but I don't care about pleasing a sex worker, and I feel for the most part, they're probably too disconnected from feelings of enjoyment to get anything out of it, anyway. Basically, they've fucked or done things with too many people they're unattractive to for sex to be anymore than an means to and end.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4097595]And of course it would be Bengallman. You started this now lets end this here. What the fuck you think your coaching?? A fucking 18 year old? Grow up and keep your advise to yourself. We simply don't need your HORSESHIT. I put out a true report and you and your triple covered dick had to shoot your mouth off. Mongers like you give us a bad rap. I hope every monger on here starts barebacking safely of course. Have fun out there Lenny6746 over and out. Bareback of course.[/QUOTE]Didn't mean to offend. Bareback all day long.

Apologeez.

[QUOTE=Dillsborodave;4097257]Reading the posts of Kenal1 and BTbear made me think of the good old days. Had to find the ladies thru the yellow pages. You had to pick your lady by the description of their measurements and hair color. I always said just send me the one I would have the most fun with. Seems like there was less ripoffs and disappointments back then.[/QUOTE]Talk about the good old day BUDDA. Sasha an Cupcake. Those were the days.

We are all old enough here to know what we are doing and know the risks. Each monger has a comfort level when it comes to risk and that won't change. No need to judge or try to "save" those mongers that choose riskier behavior. Most important we need to exchange information to keep each other safe from scams, robbers, and pissed off uncles. The truth of the matter is that all the girls, even those that say no BB in their ads will BB the regulars that they choose but put no BB in their ads because they want to pick who gets that treat and don't want to BB everybody that comes along. It's long been a hot topic of discussion but it shouldn't be, I don't judge anyone on their choices or weird fetishes, if you want a chick with a dick, that's cool by me, not my style but I wouldn't mind hearing about it and wouldn't give you a hard time. Anyway not trying to preach, we need to focus on the stuff that really matters in my opinion.

[QUOTE=DaytonSteve;4099278]We are all old enough here to know what we are doing and know the risks. Each monger has a comfort level when it comes to risk and that won't change. No need to judge or try to "save" those mongers that choose riskier behavior. Most important we need to exchange information to keep each other safe from scams, robbers, and pissed off uncles. The truth of the matter is that all the girls, even those that say no BB in their ads will BB the regulars that they choose but put no BB in their ads because they want to pick who gets that treat and don't want to BB everybody that comes along. It's long been a hot topic of discussion but it shouldn't be, I don't judge anyone on their choices or weird fetishes, if you want a chick with a dick, that's cool by me, not my style but I wouldn't mind hearing about it and wouldn't give you a hard time. Anyway not trying to preach, we need to focus on the stuff that really matters in my opinion.[/QUOTE]We all have preferences. And so do the ladies. Do's and don'ts are hinged on a number of things.

Kissing.

Rimming.

Daty.

Greek.

And the list goes on. I have had ladies say if you review me don't go into details.

What we did I don't do with every guy I see. So I don't. I have heard gents say they don't like condoms and would rather finish.

With a BJ. Guys married or having a GF aren't going to BB and run the risk of bringing something home.

Everyone BB with someone so the risk large or small is always there.

Oral play is somewhat safer because of the amount of bacteria you have in your mouth.

Play on dudes. Remember its always a woman's choice. Not ours to assume she will.

I always carry. A condom.

I had a young lady I reached out to on listcrawler a couple days ago, I texted her around 11 am my other half gets off work around 3 so when I texted her I put in my text not to respond after 3 the wifey would be home. So what does this clown 🤡 do? She texts me at 9 pm with Hey Babe. I just happened to go to my car to retrieve something and didn't know she had text when I come in the wifey has this look on her face and not talking, she had saw and read the text. What makes it so bad is she got the phone number and started texting with this idiot the girl gave her prices and everything and her general location. Total mess that evening. Now the wifey is kind of cool now I played it like a wrong number the wife told me to ask her for a screenshot of the text. Thankfully she didn't send it. So I get up this morning there's another text from another chick who I haven't seen in about 8 months she identifies herself gives her new number but thinks by her saying if this is the wrong number I apologize. The SO didn't see that but I texted her and ripped her a brand new one. She apologized but if my girl had saw that it would not have been good. These women are selfish thirsty and grimy. I would get a monger phone but if my SO found that she would have a fit. Just wanted to get that rant off maybe I should start carrying my phone with me in my pocket LOL. HL29.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;4103651]I had a young lady I reached out to on listcrawler a couple days ago, I texted her around 11 am my other half gets off work around 3 so when I texted her I put in my text not to respond after 3 the wifey would be home. So what does this clown 🤡 do? She texts me at 9 pm with Hey Babe. I just happened to go to my car to retrieve something and didn't know she had text when I come in the wifey has this look on her face and not talking, she had saw and read the text. What makes it so bad is she got the phone number and started texting with this idiot the girl gave her prices and everything and her general location. Total mess that evening. Now the wifey is kind of cool now I played it like a wrong number the wife told me to ask her for a screenshot of the text. Thankfully she didn't send it. So I get up this morning there's another text from another chick who I haven't seen in about 8 months she identifies herself gives her new number but thinks by her saying if this is the wrong number I apologize. The SO didn't see that but I texted her and ripped her a brand new one. She apologized but if my girl had saw that it would not have been good. These women are selfish thirsty and grimy. I would get a monger phone but if my SO found that she would have a fit. Just wanted to get that rant off maybe I should start carrying my phone with me in my pocket LOL. HL29.[/QUOTE]I know the feeling. About 10 years ago my ex actually found my hobby phone. Luckily I got into the habit of removing the battery and kept it in another location, but still had to come up with a story on the spot explaining why I had this phone in my trunk. Told her I found it in a parking lot. Thank god she didn't see the condoms in the spare tire compartment! My advice to you would be to get a hobby phone. If you really can't like you say, at least download a texting app like textnow or something similar. When you are hobbying just download the app and sign in. Be sure to clear your playstore history though. When finished, simply uninstall the app from the phone. Hope things work out for ya! Stay safe.

Wifeys don't forget she won't either. You may think you got away with it. You didn't. That will linger a long time. Stay cool Give me the chics number I'm single and don't care. Pm me Good luck lenny6746.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;4103651]I had a young lady I reached out to on listcrawler a couple days ago, I texted her around 11 am my other half gets off work around 3 so when I texted her I put in my text not to respond after 3 the wifey would be home. So what does this clown 🤡 do? She texts me at 9 pm with Hey Babe. I just happened to go to my car to retrieve something and didn't know she had text when I come in the wifey has this look on her face and not talking, she had saw and read the text. What makes it so bad is she got the phone number and started texting with this idiot the girl gave her prices and everything and her general location. Total mess that evening. Now the wifey is kind of cool now I played it like a wrong number the wife told me to ask her for a screenshot of the text. Thankfully she didn't send it. So I get up this morning there's another text from another chick who I haven't seen in about 8 months she identifies herself gives her new number but thinks by her saying if this is the wrong number I apologize. The SO didn't see that but I texted her and ripped her a brand new one. She apologized but if my girl had saw that it would not have been good. These women are selfish thirsty and grimy. I would get a monger phone but if my SO found that she would have a fit. Just wanted to get that rant off maybe I should start carrying my phone with me in my pocket LOL. HL29.[/QUOTE]I use a text app and always have the notifications turned off when I'm at home. I keep the app hidden from my screen. You never know when you will get a response.

[QUOTE=JustTry;4103786]I use a text app and always have the notifications turned off when I'm at home. I keep the app hidden from my screen. You never know when you will get a response.[/QUOTE]Yes, use a text app, and delete the ap when done mongering and reinstall. That's what I do.

As an FYI. These apps use the name of your phone to others using the same ap. So for iPhone if you have a revealing phone name, it broadcasts that.

MM.

[QUOTE=MikeMichigan;4103902]Yes, use a text app, and delete the ap when done mongering and reinstall. That's what I do.

As an FYI. These apps use the name of your phone to others using the same ap. So for iPhone if you have a revealing phone name, it broadcasts that.

MM.[/QUOTE]I've used several and never had that happen.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4103767]Wifeys don't forget she won't either. You may think you got away with it. You didn't. That will linger a long time. Stay cool Give me the chics number I'm single and don't care. Pm me Good luck lenny6746.[/QUOTE]She's not in breaking up status but she's been at me for the past few days. We were watching family feud and a cheaters question came up I got the number 1 answer she looked at me and said You Should Know. HL29.

I’ll find her number when I get time alone and shoot you a pm fuck it I’ll put it on the forum.HL29

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;4103651]I had a young lady I reached out to on listcrawler a couple days ago, I texted her around 11 am my other half gets off work around 3 so when I texted her I put in my text not to respond after 3 the wifey would be home. So what does this clown 🤡 do? She texts me at 9 pm with Hey Babe. I just happened to go to my car to retrieve something and didn't know she had text when I come in the wifey has this look on her face and not talking, she had saw and read the text. What makes it so bad is she got the phone number and started texting with this idiot the girl gave her prices and everything and her general location. Total mess that evening. Now the wifey is kind of cool now I played it like a wrong number the wife told me to ask her for a screenshot of the text. Thankfully she didn't send it. So I get up this morning there's another text from another chick who I haven't seen in about 8 months she identifies herself gives her new number but thinks by her saying if this is the wrong number I apologize. The SO didn't see that but I texted her and ripped her a brand new one. She apologized but if my girl had saw that it would not have been good. These women are selfish thirsty and grimy. I would get a monger phone but if my SO found that she would have a fit. Just wanted to get that rant off maybe I should start carrying my phone with me in my pocket LOL. HL29.[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me a couple years ago. The gal I had texted the day before said" I'll leave the door open, come on in and crawl in bed I'll be naked!" WTF.

[QUOTE=Tonk49;4097626]I wonder what old Amon is doing these days, his posts were always interesting to read. Come back Amon. Play safe.[/QUOTE]I think he died form his own disease, LOL.

He played to be a sick puppy, whether or not it was all true, who knows.

"These women are selfish thirsty and grimy."

This is exactly why I don't do car dates. People seem to need for something to happen to them before they realize these girls aren't your friends. I head things off before they can be an issue. Anything that leaves you 'open' will be exploited in some manner by most of them.

For texting, use an app, and turn off notifications. I've had a board favorite shoot me a random pic weeks after I contacted them.

[QUOTE=Bart269;4104433]Same thing happened to me a couple years ago. The gal I had texted the day before said" I'll leave the door open, come on in and crawl in bed I'll be naked!" WTF.[/QUOTE]Dude, get a friggin' burner! I never, ever, use my real phone for hobby play. The burner stays at my office locked up or hidden in my car. It is a very inexpensive way to avoid what could turn into a very expensive divorce. Just food for thought and MHO for what it is worth. Be safe.

[QUOTE=TannerMk;4104740]That is exactly what I do. I have an empty gas can in my trunk, and if my car smells of perfume, and or rotten fish, I'll fill up the can and leave it in the back seat. The smell of gasoline is almost overwhelming and unbearable. But that's the point. And gasoline works great for those strong odors that will not come off your fingers no matter what. We have all experienced this I'm sure. I remember once I had the smell of young, hot sex all over me. I went to the gas station and literally splashed gasoline all over myself. Rubbed it on my neck, chest, even under the belt. When I got home to the SO I threw a huge fit about the gas pump hose breaking and spewing gasoline all over! Perfect excuse for heading directly to the shower without a hello kiss and hug from the wife. Just be careful if you are a smoker![/QUOTE]Nice story, but I think most wives are going to give the same look of skepticism that Skylar gave Walter when he told that tale:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIC9_k40U[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bart269;4104433]Same thing happened to me a couple years ago. The gal I had texted the day before said" I'll leave the door open, come on in and crawl in bed I'll be naked!" WTF.[/QUOTE]Can't you get an app that you can close on your phone and open to check texts with a password? Damn that was a bad night.

OMG what a way to go. HL I know its not funny that made me laugh. I will support you any way I can. That's why we are here. Couldn't you. Have picked another show That's a woman's show anyhow. Watch rawhide or something safe like that. Seriously take care. Lenny6746.

[QUOTE=Bart269;4104433]Same thing happened to me a couple years ago. The gal I had texted the day before said" I'll leave the door open, come on in and crawl in bed I'll be naked!" WTF.[/QUOTE]That sound like a set up to me. I would never enter a place when they say door is open just come on in.

[QUOTE=FMichaels4533;4104750]Dude, get a friggin' burner! I never, ever, use my real phone for hobby play. The burner stays at my office locked up or hidden in my car. It is a very inexpensive way to avoid what could turn into a very expensive divorce. Just food for thought and MHO for what it is worth. Be safe.[/QUOTE]I got an iphone 7 with a broken screen that works just fine for 100 off facebook, a sim card from Amazon for a buck, and a one year trac phone plan for 99 plus tax. I'm single I still don't want my everyday number out there. Turn off all the alerts and let the ladies know it may take a while for you to get back, that you don't carry it with you.

Years ago, when I upgraded my phone at the AT&T store, I took my old phone and made it into a burner phone. I have 2 or 3 old phones laying around the house so nothing looks out of the ordinary. They gave me a number and asked me what name I wanted on it. So I gave them a fake name and that is what my phone is listed under. My AT&T store has a machine in the back of the store where you can pay cash for minutes. They have a plan where you pay $100 for 1000 minutes and they are good for 1 year. You can do less for 30-60-90 days but the $100 for 1000 minutes works best. So I pay cash once a year or when my minutes runs out and it is pretty close to untraceable from an identity standpoint. Have the phone on only when I need it.

[QUOTE=Ceenote;4104822]Nice story, but I think most wives are going to give the same look of skepticism that Skylar gave Walter when he told that tale:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIC9_k40U[/URL][/QUOTE]I know the gas would be a hard sell. Especially more than once. I can't think of a better story besides the gas. Certainly would not work to say I opened some rotten tuna cans while I was out. Any second level options or second time options? Road kill, landfill, rub french fries on hands? Ketchup had a strong smell. Could be a fast food accident.

I agree it's a serious question and can be a significant issue. This hobby takes a lot of thought.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;4103651]I had a young lady I reached out to on listcrawler a couple days ago, I texted her around 11 am my other half gets off work around 3 so when I texted her I put in my text not to respond after 3 the wifey would be home. So what does this clown 🤡 do? She texts me at 9 pm with Hey Babe. I just happened to go to my car to retrieve something and didn't know she had text when I come in the wifey has this look on her face and not talking, she had saw and read the text. What makes it so bad is she got the phone number and started texting with this idiot the girl gave her prices and everything and her general location. Total mess that evening. Now the wifey is kind of cool now I played it like a wrong number the wife told me to ask her for a screenshot of the text. Thankfully she didn't send it. So I get up this morning there's another text from another chick who I haven't seen in about 8 months she identifies herself gives her new number but thinks by her saying if this is the wrong number I apologize. The SO didn't see that but I texted her and ripped her a brand new one. She apologized but if my girl had saw that it would not have been good. These women are selfish thirsty and grimy. I would get a monger phone but if my SO found that she would have a fit. Just wanted to get that rant off maybe I should start carrying my phone with me in my pocket LOL. HL29.[/QUOTE]Just the hazards of playing and not having a burner phone. I keep my phone locked at all times. Have texting set to no banner or scrolling text messages on locked screen. My SO and I have an agreement not to go through each other's phone. We also agreed not to look at the bill info for each other's line. We figure we each have our vices and need satisfaction from time to time!

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;4105134]Just the hazards of playing and not having a burner phone. I keep my phone locked at all times. Have texting set to no banner or scrolling text messages on locked screen. My SO and I have an agreement not to go through each other's phone. We also agreed not to look at the bill info for each other's line. We figure we each have our vices and need satisfaction from time to time![/QUOTE]I just have a Google number and the Google Voice app on my phone. When I'm out to play, I add that account to my phone, and use it to text or make calls. Then, when playtime is over, I remove the account from my phone. If girls text me at a bad time, it won't buzz my phone when the account isn't even on there.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;4105761]I just have a Google number and the Google Voice app on my phone. When I'm out to play, I add that account to my phone, and use it to text or make calls. Then, when playtime is over, I remove the account from my phone. If girls text me at a bad time, it won't buzz my phone when the account isn't even on there.[/QUOTE]A lot (most / all?) of these web based texting accounts have a web interface so you can access them from a web browser. No need to use their app. The advantage of that is you will only get an alert if you have your browser open and one of the tabs is logged on to the site. A caveat though is that if you are sharing that computer, you need to actively log off, and not just close the tab. Otherwise, if someone were to go to that app's site, it will automatically log on to your account. You can access the site from your phone's browser, so that could also help.

[QUOTE=DNut;4105888]A lot (most / all?) of these web based texting accounts have a web interface so you can access them from a web browser. No need to use their app. The advantage of that is you will only get an alert if you have your browser open and one of the tabs is logged on to the site. A caveat though is that if you are sharing that computer, you need to actively log off, and not just close the tab. Otherwise, if someone were to go to that app's site, it will automatically log on to your account. You can access the site from your phone's browser, so that could also help.[/QUOTE]If you are in the habit of using an incognito browser, you have a better chance of staying safe, too!

So, I've been trying to see this girl that use to post on USA and has since just never kept posting, but I still have her number and keep trying to see her. She'll occasionally respond, and in hopes that we'll be able to work out a matching schedule. I always reply to keep things moving. I've been in the hobby about 10 years and have never had this happen: the other day she randomly gave me her "real" number because she responds faster on that since her other number is a texting app. The reason she would rather get back with me faster is that she hopes we'll be able to meet up soon because she's fallen on hard times (which I know is a common story of many providers that are trying all they can to get you to come see them asap). Everything she's said about herself seems to add up. The area she says that she's from matches up with exact locations. Also, her pictures aren't over-the-top (obviously fake). I've never had a provider give me a number I didn't ask for, but I'm hoping that helps me get into see her sooner. Any advice or opinions?

Suing Columbus Police alledging her strip club arrest was politically motivated.

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/us/stormy-daniels-files-suit-against-ohio-officers-who-arrested-her.amp[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheBrestMan;4108201]So, I've been trying to see this girl that use to post on USA and has since just never kept posting, but I still have her number and keep trying to see her. She'll occasionally respond, and in hopes that we'll be able to work out a matching schedule. I always reply to keep things moving. I've been in the hobby about 10 years and have never had this happen: the other day she randomly gave me her "real" number because she responds faster on that since her other number is a texting app. The reason she would rather get back with me faster is that she hopes we'll be able to meet up soon because she's fallen on hard times (which I know is a common story of many providers that are trying all they can to get you to come see them asap). Everything she's said about herself seems to add up. The area she says that she's from matches up with exact locations. Also, her pictures aren't over-the-top (obviously fake). I've never had a provider give me a number I didn't ask for, but I'm hoping that helps me get into see her sooner. Any advice or opinions?[/QUOTE]"Real" or "an app" number, it's just another number. The speed at which you two meet is determined by how desperate she is, not the number. Take the same precautions as you have no idea who is on the other end. Don't text anything incriminating and for heaven's sake, if you do meet, don't pay until after the deed.

Her next step is to start the "I don't want to see anyone else but you game. ".

Which leads to any number of stories all crafted to get money from you.

Since you say that you two have never hooked up, I think she is setting you up for more than you are bargaining for.

Call her bluff. Tell her you want to "be with her" or you are moving on. She will either go crickets or see you and then start asking for money. If either happens, just block both numbers and move on.

[QUOTE=TheBrestMan;4108201]So, I've been trying to see this girl that use to post on USA and has since just never kept posting, but I still have her number and keep trying to see her. She'll occasionally respond, and in hopes that we'll be able to work out a matching schedule. I always reply to keep things moving. I've been in the hobby about 10 years and have never had this happen: the other day she randomly gave me her "real" number because she responds faster on that since her other number is a texting app. The reason she would rather get back with me faster is that she hopes we'll be able to meet up soon because she's fallen on hard times (which I know is a common story of many providers that are trying all they can to get you to come see them asap). Everything she's said about herself seems to add up. The area she says that she's from matches up with exact locations. Also, her pictures aren't over-the-top (obviously fake). I've never had a provider give me a number I didn't ask for, but I'm hoping that helps me get into see her sooner. Any advice or opinions?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheBrestMan;4108201]So, I've been trying to see this girl that use to post on USA and has since just never kept posting, but I still have her number and keep trying to see her. She'll occasionally respond, and in hopes that we'll be able to work out a matching schedule. I always reply to keep things moving. I've been in the hobby about 10 years and have never had this happen: the other day she randomly gave me her "real" number because she responds faster on that since her other number is a texting app. The reason she would rather get back with me faster is that she hopes we'll be able to meet up soon because she's fallen on hard times (which I know is a common story of many providers that are trying all they can to get you to come see them asap). Everything she's said about herself seems to add up. The area she says that she's from matches up with exact locations. Also, her pictures aren't over-the-top (obviously fake). I've never had a provider give me a number I didn't ask for, but I'm hoping that helps me get into see her sooner. Any advice or opinions?[/QUOTE]I have gotten personal numbers from several I've been a regular of. It keeps them from having to weed through a bunch of bullshit and time wasters to get to someone serious about meeting. But I've ever gotten one from someone I've never met. My advice is to follow the advice in the posts below.

LL.

Thank you all for your ideas and help. I figured I'd try to see her at least once to see what happens, but I'll keep caution in my back pocket. She just has 'that' body type I have a hard time saying 'no' to.

"I was reenacting Tommy Boy. ".

[QUOTE=Ceenote;4104822]Nice story, but I think most wives are going to give the same look of skepticism that Skylar gave Walter when he told that tale:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIC9_k40U[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LiamBrennan;4109785]Based on that? $300/ hr? Serious? Does she have two pussies?[/QUOTE]Ouch, or maybe I have two jobs?

[QUOTE=LiamBrennan;4109688]... I'll definitely be making an appointment for this one and will post a review immediately but that might be too late for most of you. Just letting you other Latina and / or big tittied and / or eros fans know that one is coming to town, they're not terribly frequent and when they do come to town I think it's not a bad idea to encourage business so more of them will come back (as opposed to the crap we usually get) ...

Her name is Lina Lara. She wants $400 for the hour but a 30 min deal for $250, and hell, no way I'm lasting a full hour if she's any good at all. I'd be lucky to last 20 minutes if we skip the small talk.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

We need to stick together there's no pussy worth that much, My god I can get 5 to 6 providers for that. All your doing is driving up the prices for all of us. High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. Wake up! Lenny6746.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4110505]We need to stick together there's no pussy worth that much, My god I can get 5 to 6 providers for that. All your doing is driving up the prices for all of us. High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. Wake up! Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;3869438]What the fuck is that? Didn't know there was a price list for a fair market value or a instruction manual on how to price providers for a fair market value. Anyone have one I would like to see it. LOL Or can we go to the stock market and find it or a auction. Come on get real. A deal is what you pay for and if that provider pleased you and gave you satisfaction. Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]I'm pulling for you. Stick to your guns and one day we'll all be fucking unicorns for free.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4110505]We need to stick together there's no pussy worth that much, 189,407.54. All your doing is driving up the prices for all of us. High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. Wake up! Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Here we go again. A monger saying we have to tell the providers what we think they should charge. First place, you're saying that every monger, every single guy that see all the providers, is on the USA site so we should all stick together and boycott and make them drop their prices. I would guess a fraction of those seeing providers are members of the USA site.

I've posted about his before, a while back. Who are we, who are you, to tell a provider she is charging too much? "High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. " Ok, so don't pay. So don't see her. Don't tell somebody else, who is willing to see the provider for the amount she wants, that he shouldn't do it because you in fact want to see her, but don't have or won't spend the amount she wants. So we should not see her until she drops to a price that you think she should and you would pay? There are tons of providers I have seen advertised that I wouldn't see because I won't spend that kind of money on her because I simply don't find her attractive to spend that kind of money. Does that mean she is asking too much? To me yes, to others no. Then there would be another monger who likes her looks and what she offers, and to him, she is worth what she is asking and he pays it. Then she's not asking too much. I've paid big bucks to see two current porn stars that I have documented on here. For the experience I think it was worth it. Would I do it again? Probably not with them. But I certainly wouldn't tell other guys to boycott them because they are asking too much. Because as long as they are getting the business they require, want or need, then they are not asking too much. And I wouldn't spend that kind of bank on a local provider.

And that's all the point. A provider has her self priced knowing what she needs. If 9 out of 10 guys won't see her but she does get that one who will, and that one is all she needs to get what she needs, then she is priced just right. A provider decides and makes the decision on whether she is asking too much, not you or any of us. I don't believe most providers are looking to get every monger, to get everyone. Those that are we call street walkers. Those that advertise want a certain price and are satisfied with the percentage of those willing to pay. If they arent satisfied, then they lower their price. I drive a very expensive car. I think its worth it. I have friends that think its ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a car and wouldn't do it. But they aren't suggesting all car buyers boycott that particular car manufacturer to drop their prices so they can buy one. The manufacturer knows it isn't going to get all car buyers. These providers know they arent going to get all mongers and they don't want them. If they did they'd be working the street. They just want the ones willing to pay what they feel is fair for their services. If they get that certain percentage, then their price is just right. The ones I don't like I don't pay to see them and neither should you. And there are ones that I do like but I won't spend the cash they are asking but obviously others do and I don't begrudge them that. And I certainly don't have the right to tell them they are wrong and that the provider is wrong. And neither do you. And don't tell me I shouldn't see someone to try and make the provider more affordable for you. If I think she is worth it then she is. To me. Not to you? Ok.

Well said.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;4111556]Here we go again. A monger saying we have to tell the providers what we think they should charge. First place, you're saying that every monger, every single guy that see all the providers, is on the USA site so we should all stick together and boycott and make them drop their prices. I would guess a fraction of those seeing providers are members of the USA site.

I've posted about his before, a while back. Who are we, who are you, to tell a provider she is charging too much? "High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. " Ok, so don't pay. So don't see her. Don't tell somebody else, who is willing to see the provider for the amount she wants, that he shouldn't do it because you in fact want to see her, but don't have or won't spend the amount she wants. So we should not see her until she drops to a price that you think she should and you would pay? There are tons of providers I have seen advertised that I wouldn't see because I won't spend that kind of money on her because I simply don't find her attractive to spend that kind of money. Does that mean she is asking too much? To me yes, to others no. Then there would be another monger who likes her looks and what she offers, and to him, she is worth what she is asking and he pays it. Then she's not asking too much. I've paid big bucks to see two current porn stars that I have documented on here. For the experience I think it was worth it. Would I do it again? Probably not with them. But I certainly wouldn't tell other guys to boycott them because they are asking too much. Because as long as they are getting the business they require, want or need, then they are not asking too much. And I wouldn't spend that kind of bank on a local provider.

And that's all the point. A provider has her self priced knowing what she needs. If 9 out of 10 guys won't see her but she does get that one who will, and that one is all she needs to get what she needs, then she is priced just right. A provider decides and makes the decision on whether she is asking too much, not you or any of us. I don't believe most providers are looking to get every monger, to get everyone. Those that are we call street walkers. Those that advertise want a certain price and are satisfied with the percentage of those willing to pay. If they arent satisfied, then they lower their price. I drive a very expensive car. I think its worth it. I have friends that think its ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a car and wouldn't do it. But they aren't suggesting all car buyers boycott that particular car manufacturer to drop their prices so they can buy one. The manufacturer knows it isn't going to get all car buyers. These providers know they arent going to get all mongers and they don't want them. If they did they'd be working the street. They just want the ones willing to pay what they feel is fair for their services. If they get that certain percentage, then their price is just right. The ones I don't like I don't pay to see them and neither should you. And there are ones that I do like but I won't spend the cash they are asking but obviously others do and I don't begrudge them that. And I certainly don't have the right to tell them they are wrong and that the provider is wrong. And neither do you. And don't tell me I shouldn't see someone to try and make the provider more affordable for you. If I think she is worth it then she is. To me. Not to you? Ok.[/QUOTE]