Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Frog41;3495026]Got a link or can you send me a pm with the number?[/QUOTE][URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/amazing-bodywork-by-a-stunning-beauty/29945793[/URL]

[QUOTE=RocketmanStl;3491788]It's a new Aspen, working with a couple of other gals near Big Bend & Clayton. I heard the old Aspen moved to California.[/QUOTE]I think Aspen is a part of this group near Big Bend and Clayton. I also think they are "managed" by our old friend Jessica who used to work near there. Let me know if anyone has a good experience with these gals.

[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/hometown-honeys/30037218[/URL]

Was in the area and went there. Is this place closed for good now?

[QUOTE=StlMaven;3494515]Called this gal who says she may end up staying in the area. I was apprehensive, because she sounded nervous on the phone, but I'm glad I decided to dive in.

She got on the table, and massaged her breasts on my chest. She grabbed my hand and placed it on her chest. I massaged her chest, til she hopped off the bed, as she continued to tease, and into an erotic finish. I asked about upgrades, and she states she does offer them. Nude is also an option. I will be back. I hope she sticks around. She is very pleasant to converse with, and seems to be highly educated. Seems more of these girls are having to get into this business to pay for their schooling. Rate quoted 140, left her 200. Well worth it. #on Ad is 314-548-88 xx.

Maven.[/QUOTE]So you paid 200 for a topless HJ? No offense dude, but this is the kind of thing that continues to drive prices up in the area.

What's up everyone! I'm coming into town this week for a business trip. Which independent providers do you all recommend? I'm not looking for FS just a good massage with a great HE from a decent looking woman. I've looked at YGND and I am intrigued. What is everyone's experience with them? Any others you reccomend? Let me know here or via PM. Thanks, stay safe!

I am back to report some new info. Sorry I don't post much but I see no need to hash up the same information that others already posted. If your into chubby Asian women, I recommend seeing Cindy at the place everyone is raving about west of st charles.

Left happy but wish I had someone more my type. You like big and natural as well, she may work for you. Claims to been there only a month. Title and info above should lead you to her.

Be back to report anything new I find out there.

Sly.

The massage was very nice, and the covering towel came off right away. There was teasing, and on the flip, the towel came back tented. Only a pleasant massage.

[QUOTE=SamWiseCometh;3488215]I'll be going there on Sunday (Sun Li) to see how it goes.

One of the women who I used to see at 101 Massage is working at Sun Li now. They've always been just fine massages, nothing else yet.[/QUOTE]

I saw no clock in the room, I would estimate at about 45 minutes, she asked me if I'd like to flip, I was half way off the table due to her teasing already LOL.

She got on the table, and massaged her breasts on my chest. She grabbed my hand and placed it on her chest. I massaged her chest, til she hopped off the bed, as she continued to tease, and into an erotic finish. I asked about upgrades, and she states she does offer them. Nude is also an option. I will be back. I hope she sticks around. She is very pleasant to converse with, and seems to be highly educated. Seems more of these girls are having to get into this business to pay for their schooling. Rate quoted 140, left her 200. Well.

Worth it. #on Ad is 314-548-88 xx.

I agree with An349 as paying 200 for a topless massage with HJ ending is IMO way too much! Lets say we're golfing and par for this course is 76 and I shoot a 127. I would not be happy about that score and I most likely would try and forget that golf outing ever existed and never discuss it again. The typical (PAR for this course) 1 hr. Topless massage with HJ finish is $120. She charged over the going rate plus your tip equals a 40% mark up over the typical rate of 120. The formula I used is 120 divided by. 60=200. Now, I'm using comps from the GND and other smoking hot fbsm providers. The point I'm trying to make is exactly what An349 made that over paying and over tipping could drive up prices. This isn't good for either party as the provider will have a false sense of her cost of goods resulting in less clientele. Now with the higher price a provider may assume everything will be a wash with less clients or she will make more $$$ with less clients and higher rates. This isn't the case as many people have budgets they have to stick to and every 10,20,30,40 percent mark up in cost of goods knocks a ton of people out of the market which results in a lot less clients and $$ The problem is many providers look how much money they'll make today, not tomorrow. The following is a national statistic I heard in 2012 that stuck in my head. For every $1,000. A home goes up in price knocks 130,000 + people out of the market. This was based on the national average home price. That's a lot of people that are effected by just a $1,000. Increase and were talking about a home not a topless fbsm. My point is if every $1,000. Increase knocks 130,000 people out of the housing market imagine how a 10,20,30,40 % mark up would adversely effect any providers business. Please don't take any offense with my post as I'm just trying to break down my logic on over charging and over tipping.

[QUOTE=DcVacay;3495731]What's up everyone! I'm coming into town this week for a business trip. Which independent providers do you all recommend? I'm not looking for FS just a good massage with a great HE from a decent looking woman. I've looked at YGND and I am intrigued. What is everyone's experience with them? Any others you reccomend? Let me know here or via PM. Thanks, stay safe![/QUOTE]Check rose out. Reviews on ter. [URL]Roselovestl.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=Ritewing;3495061]Yes, she was here in St. Charles for a while. Ad had a pretty attractive face picture-was probably her some time ago. Went to see her a month ago or so. Was disappointed. She's very heavy-I'm guessing 225 lbs. Or so. Yes she has some hugh E's that account for a part of that. Did a half hour-everything is available but won't repeat. Just don't like big heavy girls.

Her ad said she was on Veterens Memorial Pkwy near the Cave Springs exit in an apartment complex.[/QUOTE]Any chance that is former porn actress Kitty Lee? She works out of st louis from time to time and I saw her last year at likely the same complex. The ad calls her savannah lee now.

[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/miss-savannah-busty-beauty/30158193[/URL]

[QUOTE=DcVacay;3495731]What's up everyone! I'm coming into town this week for a business trip. Which independent providers do you all recommend? I'm not looking for FS just a good massage with a great HE from a decent looking woman. I've looked at YGND and I am intrigued. What is everyone's experience with them? Any others you recomend? Let me know here or via PM. Thanks, stay safe![/QUOTE]If you are here into next week, I'd definitely recommend YGND. The ladies work Monday through Friday, and you have to call or text to get started.

I have been a long-time fan, and the results are almost always satisfactory. My preferences at the moment are Tammy (No. 1) and Angel (also No. 1). Both are pros and they know how to please. Hope this helps.

DT.

Elaina.

I don't post much because 1) I don't feel the need to repeat information from others posts and 2) I rarely see someone without a few reviews first. But today I saw elaina in Clayton / Rich heights.

I think the pictures are her. If they're not, they're close enough.

The real treat is in her routine. If anyone has been searching for s super sensual, legitimately good rub with lots of guided MT, in the vein of the retired Tiereney of YGND, the baton has been passed!

Please, keep her busy (but not too busy!) and treat her well.

[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/Therapeu...ymate/30157843[/URL]

Cheers.

[QUOTE=KittyRose0603;3496487]Check rose out. Reviews on ter. [URL]Roselovestl.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]First and only post? And your name has her name in it? Kind of weird. Can anyone else vouch for this ad?

I would definitely agree that Rose Love would be a great choice. Excellent communication, simply gorgeous and an affordable price point.

[QUOTE=KittyRose0603;3496487]Check rose out. Reviews on ter. [URL]Roselovestl.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DcVacay;3498183]First and only post? And your name has her name in it? Kind of weird. Can anyone else vouch for this ad?[/QUOTE]Pretty close to correct. That wasn't her first post. Her first post was an ad for herself that seems like it got deleted by Admin.

Your inbox is full.

[QUOTE=DcVacay;3498183]First and only post? And your name has her name in it? Kind of weird. Can anyone else vouch for this ad?[/QUOTE]It is Rose. Kitty was her stage name when she danced and she jumped all over me in PMs after I posted information about her from TER and then claimed to be Ana. When I asked why she only responded to barely questionable posts about Rose but not any of those about Parker or the others and of course there was no response other than 'maybe you should book with her'.

In fact, the description of her profile says advertiser so maybe she should stick with posting in that forum.

Saw Rose today for my 72nd birthday and I'm afraid it wasn't my best present by any stretch of the imagination. I had seen her four times before, two times for 45 minutes at $160 and two times for a half hour at $120. Today I did the hour at $200.

After the massage started and I had flipped and I was fingering her, I asked if I could go down on her and she said that would be extra. I didn't pursue it since I was hoping it would be part of the fee I had paid. We had communicated a number of times during the week and I put my original post on here as a way to come to her defense and hopefully help her out. Since she said that she liked to "reach a certain level of intimacy" and then see what happens I guess I was thinking / hoping that we had reached a different level but that was not the case.

After I got home I sent her a text saying how disappointed I was and today's appointment. She pointed out very adamantly that she had always told me that what I was looking for was not included at the $200 level and she most definitely had. But she had also said "sometimes more happens, sometimes not" so I guess my expectations had been raised by that which was a misunderstanding on my part. We then had a rather heated phone conversation and when I asked how much what I was looking for would be she indicated $600 and it would be covered. I'm pretty sure she was referring to a CBJ as opposed to FS but perhaps I'm incorrect about that too. In any event, I thought I should point this out to others as that seems a little steep from my perspective. Guess I should have been forewarned by senior member SirChuck and not set my expectations so high.

Of course this can certainly be a case of YMMV. I'm definitely an old geezer so possibly younger clients are in for a better experience.

[QUOTE=Apache77;3491118]Having seen Rose a total of four times I thought I should weigh in on the conversation. First, this woman has excellent communication skills with very quick responses to your texts. I realize that's not a big deal to some people but it's something you don't find very often and which I certainly appreciate. Second, Rose is very intelligent and is very easy to talk to. I realize those also might not be attributes that are high on everyone's list but, in my humble opinion, they do enhance the overall experience. Finally, this woman is absolutely gorgeous, probably the prettiest in the hobby that I've had the pleasure of spending some time behind closed doors with. As to her breasts, and with apologies to Seinfeld, they're real and they're spectacular!

As to the session, if you go in expecting a BBBJ then you're probably going to be disappointed. She definitely prefers that there not be a high level of expectation on the part of the client as she would rather reach a certain level of intimacy with a person and then see what happens. My visits with her have been wonderful with very happy endings. If only a HJ is involved she has an excellent, soft technique that certainly works for this old timer. When this is coupled with her gorgeous appearance it definitely gets the job done. My 72nd birthday is next Monday and I'm sure that the visit I pay Rose will be my best present.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DcVacay;3498183]First and only post? And your name has her name in it? Kind of weird. Can anyone else vouch for this ad?[/QUOTE]Nothing strange here as she is being transparent. Her status (just below her handle, on both posts) lists her as a forum advertiser, which helps Jackson pay for this site. It's the providers (or their shills) who hide behind screen names to self-promote or challenge reviews that can be an issue.

I don't have anything for or against seeing her as I haven't seen her myself and almost all of the posts on her are discussion from those who haven't seen her or reviews from those who don't have a deep track record.

[QUOTE=Stl69;3430790]I agree that Kathleen is disappointing. She is the same Kathleen that was once off of Schuetz Road near Lindbergh in a private home. Always wants to know if you are 420 friendly and offers to provide if desired. Yes, she's a talker and doesn't provide much of a sensual build up before the HJ finish.[/QUOTE]I saw Kathleen a couple of weeks back and had a decent session. In addition to Stl69's negative review, I was very hesitant because of criticisms from other reliable forum members a couple of years ago. I decided to take a chance and see if her time in Tampa (a very competitive market--unlike STL) made a difference. As she recently moved back, some of the previous problem areas are not issues right now (place is great and only a couple of cats right now--but I suspect more will eventually be added). She was friendly and definitely more on the chatty side but I was ok with that. She backed off the talking a little bit when I stayed silent. In my session, there was a pretty good sensual build up nearly from the start as part of a decent massage heavily focused on legs, butt, and lower back. She was also good in how she dealt with her boundaries (consistent with prior posts about her. I always push for a bit more.... but no luck in this case). She provided the full hour and I was able to take a shower afterwards. She's mid-50's and not a spinner type so competes with Faro (who I still need to see) and former older area luminaries like Molly & Sharon. Not sure if I'll repeat but it was better than I expected so might be worth a shot if her style fits your mood.

[QUOTE=Apache77;3499902]Saw Rose today for my 72nd birthday and I'm afraid it wasn't my best present by any stretch of the imagination. I had seen her four times before, two times for 45 minutes at $160 and two times for a half hour at $120. Today I did the hour at $200.

After the massage started and I had flipped and I was fingering her, I asked if I could go down on her and she said that would be extra. I didn't pursue it since I was hoping it would be part of the fee I had paid. We had communicated a number of times during the week and I put my original post on here as a way to come to her defense and hopefully help her out. Since she said that she liked to "reach a certain level of intimacy" and then see what happens I guess I was thinking / hoping that we had reached a different level but that was not the case.

After I got home I sent her a text saying how disappointed I was and today's appointment. She pointed out very adamantly that she had always told me that what I was looking for was not included at the $200 level and she most definitely had. But she had also said "sometimes more happens, sometimes not" so I guess my expectations had been raised by that which was a misunderstanding on my part. We then had a rather heated phone conversation and when I asked how much what I was looking for would be she indicated $600 and it would be covered. I'm pretty sure she was referring to a CBJ as opposed to FS but perhaps I'm incorrect about that too. In any event, I thought I should point this out to others as that seems a little steep from my perspective. Guess I should have been forewarned by senior member SirChuck and not set my expectations so high.

Of course this can certainly be a case of YMMV. I'm definitely an old geezer so possibly younger clients are in for a better experience.[/QUOTE]It's not you, that is her MO. Never promise anything but make it seem like more is going to happen then get offended when you ask for more. The stripper mentality never goes away.

[QUOTE=Apache77;3499902]Saw Rose today for my 72nd birthday and I'm afraid it wasn't my best present by any stretch of the imagination. I had seen her four times before, two times for 45 minutes at $160 and two times for a half hour at $120. Today I did the hour at $200.

After the massage started and I had flipped and I was fingering her, I asked if I could go down on her and she said that would be extra. I didn't pursue it since I was hoping it would be part of the fee I had paid. We had communicated a number of times during the week and I put my original post on here as a way to come to her defense and hopefully help her out. Since she said that she liked to "reach a certain level of intimacy" and then see what happens I guess I was thinking / hoping that we had reached a different level but that was not the case.

After I got home I sent her a text saying how disappointed I was and today's appointment. She pointed out very adamantly that she had always told me that what I was looking for was not included at the $200 level and she most definitely had. But she had also said "sometimes more happens, sometimes not" so I guess my expectations had been raised by that which was a misunderstanding on my part. We then had a rather heated phone conversation and when I asked how much what I was looking for would be she indicated $600 and it would be covered. I'm pretty sure she was referring to a CBJ as opposed to FS but perhaps I'm incorrect about that too. In any event, I thought I should point this out to others as that seems a little steep from my perspective. Guess I should have been forewarned by senior member SirChuck and not set my expectations so high.

Of course this can certainly be a case of YMMV. I'm definitely an old geezer so possibly younger clients are in for a better experience.[/QUOTE]Don't hold yourself down. Your money is green. I've sampled all of what she is about back when she was a stripper. She had no issues fucking guys from the club in the past. I doubt she has any now. She is just trying to get her business into the high end market. Good for her if she is able but not really for me personally. Much better value can be found with analovesstl. IMHO. I'd highly recommend Parker personally and really most of the other girls as well. Better value. P.S., I know they all they 500 FS. But life is YMMV, never forget that.

This is not a big deal but while I don't have a "deep track record" on this board I certainly do on TER. I have been a member there for seven years and have posted over 80 reviews so hopefully some will recognize my name / handle and put some credence in what I say.

[QUOTE=BretM69;3500200]Nothing strange here as she is being transparent. Her status (just below her handle, on both posts) lists her as a forum advertiser, which helps Jackson pay for this site. It's the providers (or their shills) who hide behind screen names to self-promote or challenge reviews that can be an issue.

I don't have anything for or against seeing her as I haven't seen her myself and almost all of the posts on her are discussion from those who haven't seen her or reviews from those who don't have a deep track record.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure if this has already been posted but there seems to be a lot of different providers on BP with 314-296-7283. Also shows up for "Busted Escorts" when googled, but not sure how reliable that is. Anyway better safe than sorry!

Good Hunting!

FFT.

[QUOTE=ForFunTonite;3501349]I'm not sure if this has already been posted but there seems to be a lot of different providers on BP with 314-296-7283. Also shows up for "Busted Escorts" when googled, but not sure how reliable that is. Anyway better safe than sorry!

Good Hunting!

FFT.[/QUOTE]It's legit (by which I mean, not LE). The shared number is the woman who handles scheduling. I've seen 2 girls at this number and one more at the same location and it's as safe and well run as one could hope for.

[QUOTE=ForFunTonite;3501349]I'm not sure if this has already been posted but there seems to be a lot of different providers on BP with 314-296-7283. Also shows up for "Busted Escorts" when googled, but not sure how reliable that is. Anyway better safe than sorry!

Good Hunting!

FFT.[/QUOTE]That's just a shares space along Big Bend near Clayton Rd. Several FBSM ladies work out of there under Jessica's direction. Nothing new to report there. Except that they cost way more than YGND girls, aren't as reliably delicious, and there's no telling who you'll get when you show up. YMMV, of course. Just one monger's opinion.

LTB.

[QUOTE=ForFunTonite;3501349]I'm not sure if this has already been posted but there seems to be a lot of different providers on BP with 314-296-7283. Also shows up for "Busted Escorts" when googled, but not sure how reliable that is. Anyway better safe than sorry!
Good Hunting!
FFT.[/QUOTE]"Busted Escorts" and its ilk are a scam. They scrape advertising sites and redirect you to their "safe" pay site and / or provide a (probably not free) way for the provider to stop their number from being flagged. Can't speak specifically to the number of providers using 7283.

[QUOTE=Lovethatbob;3501695]That's just a shares space along Big Bend near Clayton Rd. Several FBSM ladies work out of there under Jessica's direction. Nothing new to report there. Except that they cost way more than YGND girls, aren't as reliably delicious, and there's no telling who you'll get when you show up. YMMV, of course. Just one monger's opinion.
LTB.[/QUOTE]My bad that I didn't look up the 7283 number before I made my last post. I've been tempted a few times to see some of the women but when I see mention of Big Bend / Clayton I don't pull the trigger given the likely connection with Jessica, who built out a three-room upstairs space near that corner. With Jessica things were always expensive ($100/60 m or 150/90 m + tip) although for a brief while it was a hell of ride. You may have a good experience but it / you won't come cheap.

Bret.

Two police SUVs out in front of VIP right now. 8:10 pm Tuesday. Stay safe.

[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/erotic-massage-beauty-with-a-sensual-touch/26590933[/URL]

Wanted to see something new. Tried and book with her and she is busy until Sunday. Dang guys you are all over this one. Please report your findings. I'm interested if she is worth the time. If not I'll report next week. Thanks.

[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-divine-touch-to-bring-you-to-your-knees-b2b-and-nuru-goddess-isis-reign-available-now/29268063[/URL]

Late to report. Seen this one a week or 2 ago. I picked the lowest $$ package. She is not as hot as the pics. Might be her might not. I didn't haggle. I was expecting a 10 but got an 8. . Her body was great not as nice as pic, but she was pretty. She gave a great message and used hot stones. She was in a nice neighborhood way down telegraph. I won't repeat because of the drive. She has a table in a private room. Pros were a great massage. Fanatics ass, again not as nice as pics. Good attitude, very friendly. Cons. Price, cats, and drive. Other reviews have everything on the table. I just got the massage and HJ with MT. Also a screening process.

[QUOTE=QueNine;3501832]Two police SUVs out in front of VIP right now. 8:10 pm Tuesday. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Long time lurker here. Had to make an account to respond to this. Does anybody have more info? I have been treated well at VIP. One of my favorite destinations. I know it can't last forever, but would be a real shame to see it shut down or cased out so soon.

[QUOTE=Greg48;3413641]Better than Nikki in Clayton?[/QUOTE]Nikki is still my favorite. She tastes yummy.

[QUOTE=LuvBoobies;3500763]Don't hold yourself down. Your money is green. I've sampled all of what she is about back when she was a stripper. She had no issues fucking guys from the club in the past. I doubt she has any now. She is just trying to get her business into the high end market. Good for her if she is able but not really for me personally. Much better value can be found with analovesstl. IMHO. I'd highly recommend Parker personally and really most of the other girls as well. Better value. P.S., I know they all they 500 FS. But life is YMMV, never forget that.[/QUOTE]I'm sure what I have to say doesn't carry much weight as I never post or review on here, but with all this debate it caught my attention. As new as I am to posting, I've seen girls all over stl. My input is, rose does offer more. It sounds to me like this is a YMMV scenario of why apache77 is upset. 160-200 is not sufficient enough for FS or BBBJ. I have never paid less than 500 for those services. With that said, Monica offered 80 but it was a 15 minute BBBJ in and out the door. I preferred rose because she is classy, intelligent, and more beautiful than any girls I've seen. I think if you're expecting a BBBJ or FS for 160 you'll be disappointed every time. I laughed when he mentioned his age. I'm 67 and received FS with condom from rose, but I paid 600. Money talks in this business. I feel like we should all know this. If you're looking for cheap BBBJ go see Monica. That's my suggestion, but you get what you pay for she's not a looker like rose or other girls and you'll only get 15 min job.

As for Angels, I believe they are better in price. Definitely cheaper, but unreliable. I've had my appointments with all those girls cancelled on many times and even had them not show at all. Parker seems the most reliable there now that rose is gone, but still you are paying 500 for BJ and FS. At least that's what I paid.

Rose will use condoms, but Ana's girls don't. My preference is condom so I see rose bc I know she's safe and classy. To each their own. There are pros and cons to all of them. I've seen almost all of the girls in stl and choose to stay out of these forums bc most of the time, I just see reviews coming from butt hurt men who were too cheap to pay. To help everyone out, Monica is the ticket for cheap BBBJ. I've heard rumors at dollies for more and even cheaper but I prefer safety over money. I gladly pay 500 for FS, a knock out and knowing I'm not taking anything home.

Good luck men. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=ChuckFinley5;3503384]Long time lurker here. Had to make an account to respond to this. Does anybody have more info? I have been treated well at VIP. One of my favorite destinations. I know it can't last forever, but would be a real shame to see it shut down or cased out so soon.[/QUOTE]Are the Ofallon "officials" receiving justifiable complaints about this biz, this parking lot.

Like many parking lots. The chances that the 2 police vehicles were just parked while updating their laptops, comparing their fantasy leagues, etc.

Create any scenario on why they happen to be there.

After 3 trips. In 3 months, its overrated like 90% of the AMPs are locally. To each their own!

[QUOTE=QueNine;3501832]Two police SUVs out in front of VIP right now. 8:10 pm Tuesday. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]You have to realize that there are restaurants on both sides of this place, they could've been eating lunch or dinner!

[QUOTE=Tony9;3503886]Are the Ofallon "officials" receiving justifiable complaints about this biz, this parking lot.

Like many parking lots. The chances that the 2 police vehicles were just parked while updating their laptops, comparing their fantasy leagues, etc.

Create any scenario on why they happen to be there.

After 3 trips. In 3 months, its overrated like 90% of the AMPs are locally. To each their own![/QUOTE]I've been by there a couple of times when there were more than one or two LE vehicles in the parking lot directly in from of VIP. They were just in the restaurants close by getting something to eat both times. No worries guys.

[QUOTE=ChuckFinley5;3503384]Long time lurker here. Had to make an account to respond to this. Does anybody have more info? I have been treated well at VIP. One of my favorite destinations. I know it can't last forever, but would be a real shame to see it shut down or cased out so soon.[/QUOTE]Why does it even matter? If they close, they close. If they stay open, they stay open. I have no additional info. But if I did, it wouldn't make any difference.

It breaks my heart to write this review because it will only make my next appointment harder to schedule. But, as a public service, I'll proceed.

I had a 30 appointment with "Thai soup" at the Clayton / Richmond Heights location.

She is real! Her pictures are real! She is beautiful and sweet excellent at what she does.

She is, Hands down, The most attractive girl I have visited with. Not hyperbole.

See her and thank me later.

[QUOTE=Bones55;3503833]Nikki is still my favorite. She tastes yummy.[/QUOTE]We have all been wondering about?