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[QUOTE=Phlasher;4074029]Don't have any first-hand knowledge, but rumor on Reddit is that it has suffered same fate as Backpage. I find that very hard to believe, given there has been no news of such a shutdown. The new owner is in Eastern Europe and the site hosted in Montreal, so it should be as protected against US legal action as is this site.[/QUOTE]Is there a particular sub Reddit? I'd like to follow.
[QUOTE=DNut;4074410]Does Saffron still go au natural when it comes to body hair? I remember old reports that likes to keep natural unshaven hair in her armpits, Bush, legs, etc. Still true?[/QUOTE]Yes, she does.
[QUOTE=TickleJay;4075229]Is there a particular sub Reddit? I'd like to follow.[/QUOTE]You can find under R/Pittsburgh. Most recent post in this thread was two days ago.
[B]Dear Steve at EE[/B]
When I use your service, I always seem to avoid all the aggravations of excuses and dead phones and confusing texts and worthless calls and postponements and ghosting and waiting and bullshit and time wasting and just plain not responding! Thank you!
[QUOTE=ThatGuy011;4073992]It's not a secret that these girls are doing this to get a fix, and the moment they don't need you, you're nothing to them.[/QUOTE]THATS A FACT. But a lot of guys on here are blind. They seek companionship so bad or want a friend so bad. Or just want to play mr. Nice guy. And then get ripped off. Its crazy the stories I read on here. Wiring money to them. Giving money up front. Driving them places. Drug runs.
I just don't get it.
A GFE is a girlfriend experience. If your girlfriend gives you a CBJ (covered blow job) that is some hooker shit and not a GFE.
[QUOTE=LightYagami;4080278]A GFE is a girlfriend experience. If your girlfriend gives you a CBJ (covered blow job) that is some hooker shit and not a GFE.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/girlfriend-experience[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_experience[/URL]
[URL]https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/exq3j4/whats-a-girlfriend-experience-like[/URL]
It's weird how none of these talk about blowjobs. A GFE relates to the emotional aspect of the encounter. It's about intimacy and such. I've had BBBJ with no intimacy or emotional connection provided. But, whatever, keep using the term unlike every definition of it anywhere.
[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;4080602][URL]https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/girlfriend-experience[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_experience[/URL]
[URL]https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/exq3j4/whats-a-girlfriend-experience-like[/URL]
It's weird how none of these talk about blowjobs. A GFE relates to the emotional aspect of the encounter. It's about intimacy and such. I've had BBBJ with no intimacy or emotional connection provided. But, whatever, keep using the term unlike every definition of it anywhere.[/QUOTE]You don't read your own links and your use of every definition is just as moronic. Again a girlfriend that gives a covered blow job is a hooker. Trying to pretend that is the same is some hooker jujitsu that some are dumb enough to repeat like the stupid empty parrots that they are.
GFE.
Like the others said, GFE=Girlfriend experience. In some situations, it also means that the prostitute / escort is willing to perform some services without condoms, akabarebacked, usually blowjobs (BBBJ).
[URL]https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gfe[/URL]
[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;4080602][URL]https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/girlfriend-experience[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_experience[/URL]
[URL]https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/exq3j4/whats-a-girlfriend-experience-like[/URL]
It's weird how none of these talk about blowjobs. A GFE relates to the emotional aspect of the encounter. It's about intimacy and such. I've had BBBJ with no intimacy or emotional connection provided. But, whatever, keep using the term unlike every definition of it anywhere.[/QUOTE]The fact that there is no clear definition of GFE just proves that it is a very YMMV kind of appointment. I totally agree that there has to be some emotional and physical attraction and interaction. Now whether the lady really feels that she likes you and likes having sex with you can and is in most cases an act. I have an provider friend who when she talks with me about appointments often says, "And the Oscar goes to. " because she is acting when she is with a customer. I have often heard from ladies that they have dual personalities: Sally Nympho and Martha Maiden. The nympho is who she is when fucking for money and the maiden is who she is with her SO.
GFE and PSE are just two of the confusing things said in reviews and ads. I have wondered what ladies are really saying when they say "Open Minded?" Does that mean anal? Fetishes? BBFS? Who knows? That is why honest reviews are important for us the consumers.
The definitions of GFE, PSE and Open Minded will always be somewhat vague.
[QUOTE=BTBear;4080634]The fact that there is no clear definition of GFE just proves that it is a very YMMV kind of appointment. I totally agree that there has to be some emotional and physical attraction and interaction. Now whether the lady really feels that she likes you and likes having sex with you can and is in most cases an act. I have an provider friend who when she talks with me about appointments often says, "And the Oscar goes to. " because she is acting when she is with a customer. I have often heard from ladies that they have dual personalities: Sally Nympho and Martha Maiden. The nympho is who she is when fucking for money and the maiden is who she is with her SO.
GFE and PSE are just two of the confusing things said in reviews and ads. I have wondered what ladies are really saying when they say "Open Minded?" Does that mean anal? Fetishes? BBFS? Who knows? That is why honest reviews are important for us the consumers.
The definitions of GFE, PSE and Open Minded will always be somewhat vague.[/QUOTE]If you see someone more than once or twice it becomes clearer what a GFE really means.
There is a certain amount of decorum one has to possess. Being clean fresh breath and most of all height weight proportionate.
If you can't have these plus not smelling like you've just gotten off your job or as we age smelling like an old man don't expect a GFE experience. Just because you are paying for her time you can demand a GFE.
I think young girls don't want an old man's tongue in their mouth. Right now my lady I see twice a week is in her 50's.
Other ladies I see that give me a GFE experience are in their 30's and up.
One of the hottest women I see over in Pittsburgh is in her 60's.
So when you complain about a gal not being a GFE for you. Look in the mirror and be the best you can be.
And you will be rewarded. Light cologne and clean clothes being clean shaven or having a beard that smells nice and neatly trimmed. Think to yourself. Would a woman want to give me the girl friend experience?
Be the guy that says. Hell yes.
[QUOTE=LightYagami;4080622]You don't read your own links and your use of every definition is just as moronic. Again a girlfriend that gives a covered blow job is a hooker. Trying to pretend that is the same is some hooker jujitsu that some are dumb enough to repeat like the stupid empty parrots that they are.
GFE.
Like the others said, GFE=Girlfriend experience. In some situations, it also means that the prostitute / escort is willing to perform some services without condoms, akabarebacked, usually blowjobs (BBBJ).
[URL]https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gfe[/URL][/QUOTE]
It's funny how you call me "moronic" for citing evidence to support my argument, when the citation you provided very clearly says "In some situations." In any event, all the links I provided emphasize the emotional aspect of the encounter. They don't mention "BBBJ." And, as I said, there are girls who give BBBJ, have no emotional connection, and don't really like kissing. Try reading more closely next time.
You say a girlfriend who gives a covered blowjob is a hooker. Guess what? So is the hooker who you bareback. What's your point?
[QUOTE=BTBear;4080634]The fact that there is no clear definition of GFE just proves that it is a very YMMV kind of appointment. I totally agree that there has to be some emotional and physical attraction and interaction. Now whether the lady really feels that she likes you and likes having sex with you can and is in most cases an act. I have an provider friend who when she talks with me about appointments often says, "And the Oscar goes to. " because she is acting when she is with a customer. I have often heard from ladies that they have dual personalities: Sally Nympho and Martha Maiden. The nympho is who she is when fucking for money and the maiden is who she is with her SO.
GFE and PSE are just two of the confusing things said in reviews and ads. I have wondered what ladies are really saying when they say "Open Minded?" Does that mean anal? Fetishes? BBFS? Who knows? That is why honest reviews are important for us the consumers.
The definitions of GFE, PSE and Open Minded will always be somewhat vague.[/QUOTE]Here here.
[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;4081263]It's funny how you call me "moronic" for citing evidence to support my argument, when the citation you provided very clearly says "In some situations." In any event, all the links I provided emphasize the emotional aspect of the encounter. They don't mention "BBBJ." And, as I said, there are girls who give BBBJ, have no emotional connection, and don't really like kissing. Try reading more closely next time.
You say a girlfriend who gives a covered blowjob is a hooker. Guess what? So is the hooker who you bareback. What's your point?[/QUOTE]GFE for some is emotional. GFE for others is the BB aspect of the interaction. Personally, if it confuses others who read my reviews, I won't use the term anymore and won't answer GFE related questions of a provider. Problem solved LOL.
[QUOTE=BTBear;4080634]The fact that there is no clear definition of GFE just proves that it is a very YMMV kind of appointment. I totally agree that there has to be some emotional and physical attraction and interaction. Now whether the lady really feels that she likes you and likes having sex with you can and is in most cases an act. I have an provider friend who when she talks with me about appointments often says, "And the Oscar goes to. " because she is acting when she is with a customer. I have often heard from ladies that they have dual personalities: Sally Nympho and Martha Maiden. The nympho is who she is when fucking for money and the maiden is who she is with her SO.
GFE and PSE are just two of the confusing things said in reviews and ads. I have wondered what ladies are really saying when they say "Open Minded?" Does that mean anal? Fetishes? BBFS? Who knows? That is why honest reviews are important for us the consumers.
The definitions of GFE, PSE and Open Minded will always be somewhat vague.[/QUOTE]Fwiw I think of GFE as including LFK, DFK, DATY and BBBJ but not necessarily BBFS (I have used a condom with a girlfriend before to avoid pregnancy). Open minded I figure means BBFS, anal and all manner of fetishes unless otherwise excluded. PSE I equate with a lot of fake vocalizations and COF, CIM, etc. , which are not really my thing, but I do like realistic vocalizations, and got to say there are some regular UTRs that I can't honestly say whether they're faking or really enjoying it, because either the sex or their acting is that good. But, to your point, there is no real definition of these things. It wouldn't be a bad use of this forum for someone with proper authority, or "the crowd," to come up with generally accepted definitions. Even after all these years, BTW, I find it humorous and psychologically intriguing the number of providers who will do anything but kiss, because they reserve that for "boyfriends. " The emotional complexity of all this -- for both sides -- is actually pretty damn interesting from a strictly academic standpoint.
[QUOTE=DNut;4074410]Does Saffron still go au natural when it comes to body hair? I remember old reports that likes to keep natural unshaven hair in her armpits, Bush, legs, etc. Still true?[/QUOTE]Was wondering if anyone still had the videos of her that were posted? Went looking for them a few weeks ago and looks like they've been deleted.
[QUOTE=GMichael;4081328]Was wondering if anyone still had the videos of her that were posted? Went looking for them a few weeks ago and looks like they've been deleted.[/QUOTE]Several people have mentioned the "scary" approach to her apartment. What is the problem. Structural problems? Rats? Thugs?
It is just kind of "run down". No thugs no bugs or rats, no LE. Saffron is a delight. Highly recommended.
[QUOTE=Golden3;4081383]Several people have mentioned the "scary" approach to her apartment. What is the problem. Structural problems? Rats? Thugs?[/QUOTE]
The neighborhood is decent, just a bit older and tired. There are some grand old homes in the area. Her building feels just like many college apts do, relaxed, a bit run down, but not scary. At least not to me.
As for Saffron, she is, as are all escorts, YMMV. During my second (and last) visit, we were busy, nearing completion and just shy of the hour mark, when she asked if I wanted to continue and that it would cost me more if I wanted to finish. That just hit me wrong. She shouldn't have done that right when I was about to finish, very much taking advantage of my pre-dick-ament. LOL. I, of course, said yes! But that also cost her my repeat business. She texted me several times after that but I didn't respond.
That said, many have had a great time with her. She is very cool and quite sexy. Despite that, I decided to go elsewhere thereafter.
[QUOTE=Golden3;4081383]Several people have mentioned the "scary" approach to her apartment. What is the problem. Structural problems? Rats? Thugs?[/QUOTE]
Why does it take what seems like hours and hours for my posts to be 'approved' by admin?
Is that the way it is for everybody? Am I on some double secret def con 5 probation shit of sorts?
If you catch admin when they're on the shitter or nappin', it takes like 8 hrs or so. My 'ISO' threads are useless to me a day later.
That is all.
[blue]Your white knighitng, starting fights and discouraging guys from posting about so chicks is what go you here, don't blame us.
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[QUOTE=Nky2000;4081404]It is just kind of "run down". No thugs no bugs or rats, no LE. Saffron is a delight. Highly recommended.[/QUOTE]Run down apt.
But the HAIRY BUSHES under the arms were more of a turn off.
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You're shitting me right? You live in a state with medical marijuana and on the border of one with recreational marijuana and you're asking for it on a pussy forum?
Put the Cheetos down and get in the car and go buy some.
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[QUOTE=TheGardener1;4085755]Run down apt.
But the HAIRY BUSHES under the arms were more of a turn off.[/QUOTE]Hair under arm and legs total turnoff for me. I don't care how good a provider is I can't bring myself to visit. Just me. I know she has very good reviews but not temped here. Just old fashion.
There is a more detailed answer back a few pages but the short answer is that the original video poster took them down because of some sort of dispute.
[QUOTE=GMichael;4081328]Was wondering if anyone still had the videos of her that were posted? Went looking for them a few weeks ago and looks like they've been deleted.[/QUOTE]
[quote=hillbillybob;4086139]hair under arm and legs total turnoff for me. I don't care how good a provider is i can't bring myself to visit. Just me. I know she has very good reviews but not temped here. Just old fashion.[/quote]I feel exactly the same way!
Hi, forgive if these might be the wrong place for this. I originally wasn't going to post this, but something happened today that really got under my skin. Every now and then I'll hop on [URL]Eros.com[/URL] for my birthday or special occasion. Well, I had a really crappy birthday, had a bad week at work, didn't get to celebrate it, plus my power was out for 2 days during the ice store we had last month.
I see someone who I've been eying for a while and decide to reach of them them. Got a reply back, asking for references. I send them as well mention my senior statuse on here as well my statuse on another site. She starts making fun of my for being on here and the other site. I ask about how early she makes appointments cause I work 3rd shift and don't have a lot of downtime. She replies back with something to the degree of, "You must think you're so special to ask that. " & "You think I'm going to let you break my rules so I can accommodate you?" WTF?
After that I never hear back from her, that I found her Twitter account and see that she posts email replies from people that she doesn't like in her account, "Look what this idiot wrote me. ".
Now, I'll admit, there were some dumb things people did say in those emails, but I wouldn't be posting that stuff for the world to see. Thankfully, she didn't post my emails on her account.
Then over the weekend, I saw someone else I had seen ads in th past who passes through every now and then. Her ad says to call, don't text. So, besides having a bad birthday and having to work Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Years Eve & New Years Day, I thought I'd reward myself and try again. I call, when was a Google Voice account. The recording says that replies will be returned the next day. Left a message, but when I pressed a button to send the message, I get disconnected. Next day, no reply back. So on my lunch break today, I give her a call back, but says the line is disconnected?! I check number, it's correct, call again, still says it's disconnected? Tried from a different number, it rings? So I guess she blocked my number. Get voice mail again, leave a message, asking how long would she be in town, cause of the holiday and if she visiting Dayton? As I get into the elevator at work, she calls me back? After "hello, can you hear me now", when I get off the elevator, all my co-workers are in the hallway. I tell her that I'm at work and can't really talk. She replies with, "If you want me to do to Dayton, it's (fill in the blank, plus extra)".
Trying to be casual with others nearby, I say, "Mmm Hmm, I'll will have to get back to you on that. ".
She replies with, "Look, don't be wasting my time if you can't agree with that amount. " and hangs up the phone.
When I was able to get away from my co-workers, I called her back, to work once again get a recording saying the line has been disconnected?
Ok, I've met a few ladies on Eros before who were visiting from out of town, one of them multiple times, but what the hell is going on with those two? I personally don't think I did anything wrong?
Have any of you had a similar experience and do you believe I did anything wrong?
[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;4086139]Hair under arm and legs total turnoff for me. I don't care how good a provider is I can't bring myself to visit. Just me. I know she has very good reviews but not temped here. Just old fashion.[/QUOTE]LOL. Don't judge me but that actually moves her up my list. Everybody has a thing or three.
[QUOTE=Vilnius;4087169]LOL. Don't judge me but that actually moves her up my list. Everybody has a thing or three.[/QUOTE]Not judging anyone just my preference. She has great reviews enjoy your time. Some things just turn me off. Body hair on a woman other then the Kitty a NO NO for me.
[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;4086139]Hair under arm and legs total turnoff for me. I don't care how good a provider is I can't bring myself to visit. Just me. I know she has very good reviews but not temped here. Just old fashion.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I just can't do that and find it a huge turnoff. I know some guys like it like it's the rebel earth mother naughty girl but I find it disgusting. To each their own.
[QUOTE=MsmithOhio1860;4087157]Hi, forgive if these might be the wrong place for this. I originally wasn't going to post this, but something happened today that really got under my skin. Every now and then I'll hop on [URL]Eros.com[/URL] for my birthday or special occasion. Well, I had a really crappy birthday, had a bad week at work, didn't get to celebrate it, plus my power was out for 2 days during the ice store we had last month.
Have any of you had a similar experience and do you believe I did anything wrong?[/QUOTE]I find the more professional I try to be, try to respect their time by planning ahead or making my intentions clear about what I want, the more annoyed they get. Girls on the regular sites only care if you want to see and pay them this minute and the girls from Eros want you to jump through a ton of hoops on their terms.
A lot of them have the mindset that they are doing you a favor when you are the one with the purchasing power.
Sooo, Thursday night I try to set something up for Friday evening. My ATF tells me that she had a prearranged booking for her lottery winner, so I called my other ATF, willing to make the drive, and she was a no go also. I call up my one and only UTR and she says we are good for 6 pm Friday. I confirm Friday afternoon and then one hour before, I get "the text", I am not going to be ready at our appointed time. Says she wants to meet 30 minutes later, no reason given. I say I can't do it and that we could reschedule later in the weekend. She then says she can make it work. I am still learning the ropes here guys, so I did not realize that was code for "I double booked". WTF! Are you serious?" You are a UTR, and you are double booking? Anyway, did not realize that until I made the drive, arrived early, and sat in the parking lot waiting for her to get there from wherever she was coming from (my bad assumption). She then texts me that she is running 5 minutes late and that turned into 15 minutes til I get the "I am ready" text. Now wait, I just saw a guy come out of her place, so I ask her if she is home? She admits she is and actually admits to having a previous appointment. So, if it was one of you guys coming out, I saw you walking to your car. I feel bad for you because I am sure she was texting and rushing you in your session. Needless to say, I tell her I am not interested in tardy, sloppy seconds and bid her adoo and blocked her. She knows my rules, and I have no UTR now. LOL.
So, I check the review board and send out several texts and Genesis is the first to respond. Based on recent reviews by senior members, I decide to give Genesis a shot. As I am getting ready to pull out of the parking spot I was in, I get hit by another car pulling out. Long story short, I have to wait for the police and told Genesis what was going on and that we would need to reschedule. An hour or more later, I ask her if she is still available and she says yes. I tell her I can be there in 20 minutes and she says "that is perfect". I get there and she says I need to hit the local pharmacy and get her some wet wipes to clean up after our session. First of all, why don't you get your own supplies, and two, why aren't you shower fresh after each session. Again, I did not realize this was another code for "I double booked" until after I get back to the parking lot with the baby wipes and see another of you coming out, get in your car, and then get the "I am ready" text. WTF! Twice in one night! So, I am thinking, maybe Maci had that appointment, and I deliver the baby wipes. But alas, Genesis was the only one not fully clothed and immediately took out some wet wipes and went to the bathroom. Needless to say, I just couldn't do it. I gave Maci $20 as I was leaving (I am sure you guys will yell at me for that), and then they get the block. Again, I hope whichever of you guys was there did not get a bad or rushed session from her texting and such.
Conclusion: If you have to delay our appointment time FOR ANY REASON, you double booked me. If you are a provider reading this, just be on time and I won't question how recent you saw your last client. If you double book me, you get blocked and you won't get my play money. I am curious though, how do you guys handle this issue? I suspect that them double booking is a consequence of you guys canceling appointments. I have never canceled or ghosted a provider.
As always, YMMV.
JAC.
[QUOTE=JustACustomer;4094827] I suspect that them double booking is a consequence of you guys canceling appointments. I have never canceled or ghosted a provider.
As always, YMMV.
JAC.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with your assumption. The hobby has certainly changed. In the short time since the "Blackout of 2018" there seems to be an abundance and growth of double bookings and "crickets. " Can you blame a provider double booking when she has had 6 NCNS and 8 last minute cancellations in 10 days? (that is a direct quote from a provider I just saw.) The airlines double book seats because of cancellations. Hotels sometimes do it too (I was once walked from Bally's in LV to a Holiday Inn because of overbooking.).
There are a number of posts by guys who say "better have a back up plan booked when you deal with... " so I am sure that some of us do it too.
I think that the influx of druggie BP girls and Street Walkers with cell phones who now post on the web allow for the guys to cancel at the last minute because some "lady" finally got back to them with a lower price / better deal so they cancel with the woman who is waiting in the hotel room she just bought for their appointment. The women probably hear the "I was in a wreck. " or "I got busy at work. " excuse as much as we hear "my phone died. " or "give me another 10 minutes. " that turns into 30 because her QV stayed for 45 minutes. The women really don't have a forum to complain in, they also fear reprisals by the guys through lack of appointments.
I have been a hobbyist for about 30 years. I remember when a lady was always "shower fresh" and on time for our one hour appointment. I say one hour because back in the day no one did half hours or quick visits. They weren't on drugs. This was a "job" not a ATM for their drug habit. Each party had at least a little respect for the other, women today are often seen as "cum buckets" and the men are just means to an end. Of course an hour was $150 or less, but when a lady today factors in several NCNS or cancellations with the cost of the room, they are often making less than that, which is why some ladies stay at "Notels" instead of Ritzes so they can cut their expected losses.
Yes we have the money so we should control the market. But they have the pussy. Who wins? With the current "state of the Hobby" I am not sure if anyone wins. Probably the only one who wins is Steve at EE. I wonder how often his ladies are NCNS'd or Cancelled on? Maybe it is the fear that we, the Hobbyist, can't book through him again if we do either. At least with EE, you know that a hot woman is awaiting your arrival, but she is also more expensive than the BP / Druggie provider. He also can maintain a standard of quality. Look at how fast a former sweetheart of USASG was bounced when she Cash & Dashed a client (though it was someone she booked directly.).
This post was not meant as a "white knight" post, but was just a post saying that we all should look in the mirror and ask, "Are we part of the problem?
[QUOTE=BTBear;4095039]I totally agree with your assumption. The hobby has certainly changed. In the short time since the "Blackout of 2018" there seems to be an abundance and growth of double bookings and "crickets. " Can you blame a provider double booking when she has had 6 NCNS and 8 last minute cancellations in 10 days? (that is a direct quote from a provider I just saw.) The airlines double book seats because of cancellations. Hotels sometimes do it too (I was once walked from Bally's in LV to a Holiday Inn because of overbooking.).
There are a number of posts by guys who say "better have a back up plan booked when you deal with... " so I am sure that some of us do it too.
I think that the influx of druggie BP girls and Street Walkers with cell phones who now post on the web allow for the guys to cancel at the last minute because some "lady" finally got back to them with a lower price / better deal so they cancel with the woman who is waiting in the hotel room she just bought for their appointment. The women probably hear the "I was in a wreck. " or "I got busy at work. " excuse as much as we hear "my phone died. " or "give me another 10 minutes. " that turns into 30 because her QV stayed for 45 minutes. The women really don't have a forum to complain in, they also fear reprisals by the guys through lack of appointments.
I have been a hobbyist for about 30 years. I remember when a lady was always "shower fresh" and on time for our one hour appointment. I say one hour because back in the day no one did half hours or quick visits. They weren't on drugs. This was a "job" not a ATM for their drug habit. Each party had at least a little respect for the other, women today are often seen as "cum buckets" and the men are just means to an end. Of course an hour was $150 or less, but when a lady today factors in several NCNS or cancellations with the cost of the room, they are often making less than that, which is why some ladies stay at "Notels" instead of Ritzes so they can cut their expected losses.
Yes we have the money so we should control the market. But they have the pussy. Who wins? With the current "state of the Hobby" I am not sure if anyone wins. Probably the only one who wins is Steve at EE. I wonder how often his ladies are NCNS'd or Cancelled on? Maybe it is the fear that we, the Hobbyist, can't book through him again if we do either. At least with EE, you know that a hot woman is awaiting your arrival, but she is also more expensive than the BP / Druggie provider. He also can maintain a standard of quality. Look at how fast a former sweetheart of USASG was bounced when she Cash & Dashed a client (though it was someone she booked directly.).
This post was not meant as a "white knight" post, but was just a post saying that we all should look in the mirror and ask, "Are we part of the problem?[/QUOTE]I agree with BTBear and I also remember the good ol' days when the girls showed up on time and were clean and fresh. I didn't participate too often back then, only when I was on the road and traveling without co-workers. But the girls were polite, friendly and clean and I don't recall a single one of them being strung out or drugged up. Conversely, though, we (at least I always did) treated them with respect also. Yes, heard a few stories from a couple of girls who were treated a bit roughly, but for the most part it was a mutually respectful and fun time for both parties. I'm an older guy (I assume BTBear is also) and, as much as I hate to say it, I really think the younger generation--guys and girls--are largely at fault here. How many times do you see ads that state something along the lines of, "I love older guys" or "looking for older gentlemen"? And there's a BUNCH of ads from black providers that state "no AA under 30", etc. I've spoken to a black provider about that and she flat out told me that young black guys are rude, cheap and sloppy. (I'm not trying to start a race riot here, just repeating what I've heard.) Anyway, I think it's safe to say that the crickets and no-shows that we have to put up with are partially the result of OUR (mongers') lack of respect and simple good manners in the way we treat the ladies. Unfortunately, all this ranting and raving probably won't change a damn thing.
We all have different tastes. Mine is barebacking providers. I also DTAY with them. Theres always a risk with every provider we meet. I try to make that risk as small as I can. I've been asked how I know they will bareback. Its simple I ask them LOL. Alot of them upcharge for it. I won't give more for it. Most of their rates are too high for what you get to begin with. If I have to wear a cover the first time and then bareback her the second time I will do that. Its like kind of getting to know her and how well she fucks. Some I walkout on for different reasons. Especially if I'm not attracted to them. Or body oder or their additude. Needle marks are another. Its not luck. You have to know what your doing. I also get checked. Even if you wear a cover you need to get checked. Thats up to you. For me theres nothing better than seeing my cum run down their legs and filling them up. I don't mind hairy or shaved. Good Hunting Lenny6746 And yes I've been doing this for years now.
[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4095518]We all have different tastes. Mine is barebacking providers. I also DTAY with them. Theres always a risk with every provider we meet. I try to make that risk as small as I can. I've been asked how I know they will bareback. Its simple I ask them LOL. Alot of them upcharge for it. I won't give more for it. Most of their rates are too high for what you get to begin with. If I have to wear a cover the first time and then bareback her the second time I will do that. Its like kind of getting to know her and how well she fucks. Some I walkout on for different reasons. Especially if I'm not attracted to them. Or body oder or their additude. Needle marks are another. Its not luck. You have to know what your doing. I also get checked. Even if you wear a cover you need to get checked. Thats up to you. For me theres nothing better than seeing my cum run down their legs and filling them up. I don't mind hairy or shaved. Good Hunting Lenny6746 And yes I've been doing this for years now.[/QUOTE]Most women I have been with love a man's cock in them and a number of them if you are good will ask you to finish in them as they love the feel of the sperm deep inside. I won't go BB with a SWalker and won't bareback a woman Greek as I don't love greek. I simply adore going down on a woman and have had a number of women ask me to do it to them as they tell me I am very good at it Even better if they love to get off more than once. Even had one woman ask me back gratis just for that with her doing mutual 69. Most women will be back with you if you are kind and clean and I have a bucket list of ladies that I want to be with and am working on. Any lady who loves the feel of a man deep inside of them or orally working on them for multiple O's may feel free to contact me. Be clean kind and enjoy what you do along with being reasonable. Those who can not get pregnant go to the head of the line. Those who have top of the line BC are also preferences. I will be in Dayton Cincy area next weekend Any ladies who want to play PM discretion assured. Doc.
[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4095518]We all have different tastes. Mine is barebacking providers. I also DTAY with them. Theres always a risk with every provider we meet. I try to make that risk as small as I can. I've been asked how I know they will bareback. Its simple I ask them LOL. Alot of them upcharge for it. I won't give more for it. Most of their rates are too high for what you get to begin with. If I have to wear a cover the first time and then bareback her the second time I will do that. Its like kind of getting to know her and how well she fucks. Some I walkout on for different reasons. Especially if I'm not attracted to them. Or body oder or their additude. Needle marks are another. Its not luck. You have to know what your doing. I also get checked. Even if you wear a cover you need to get checked. Thats up to you. For me theres nothing better than seeing my cum run down their legs and filling them up. I don't mind hairy or shaved. Good Hunting Lenny6746 And yes I've been doing this for years now.[/QUOTE]Lenny most guys on here will bareback a women given the chance most won't be honest about their adventures like you. Then you have guys who think they're some kind of father figure who feel it's their right to tell a grown man that BB isn't something they shouldn’t do. We have a Bareback thread that goes unused because people have been blasted on here for doing it. Any man that says they don't enjoy or want or wish they could BB most every girl they see is lying. I'm like you if there is something off I won’t I've enjoyed BB with some providers on USASG there are girls on here that are willing but just don't want it posted because everyone will be asking and it gets overwhelming for the provider so I just won't report it. Girls tell me guys ask for it on just about every session that's why they put no BB in their post but most will do it anyway. If I posted on the girls who allowed bare most on here would be surprised or maybe not. As for daty I love to have my face in some pussy about 90 percent of girls I do. Thanks for your honesty Bro but use the BB thread no one uses it it's just sitting there. HL29.
[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;4096729]Lenny most guys on here will bareback a women given the chance most won't be honest about their adventures like you. Then you have guys who think they're some kind of father figure who feel it's their right to tell a grown man that BB isn't something they shouldnt do. We have a Bareback thread that goes unused because people have been blasted on here for doing it. Any man that says they don't enjoy or want or wish they could BB most every girl they see is lying. I'm like you if there is something off I wont I've enjoyed BB with some providers on USASG there are girls on here that are willing but just don't want it posted because everyone will be asking and it gets overwhelming for the provider so I just won't report it. Girls tell me guys ask for it on just about every session that's why they put no BB in their post but most will do it anyway. If I posted on the girls who allowed bare most on here would be surprised or maybe not. As for daty I love to have my face in some pussy about 90 percent of girls I do. Thanks for your honesty Bro but use the BB thread no one uses it it's just sitting there. HL29.[/QUOTE]I agree, I have barebacked more then a few of your favorite providers over the years. If I named them you would be shocked and a few feelings maybe hurt since you thought they were wholesome girls. It happenes all the time.
Reading the posts of Kenal1 and BTbear made me think of the good old days. Had to find the ladies thru the yellow pages. You had to pick your lady by the description of their measurements and hair color. I always said just send me the one I would have the most fun with. Seems like there was less ripoffs and disappointments back then.
[QUOTE=KidKuddi;4097057]I agree, I have barebacked more then a few of your favorite providers over the years. If I named them you would be shocked and a few feelings maybe hurt since you thought they were wholesome girls. It happenes all the time.[/QUOTE]Amon swam in these waters for a few years. 😳128541;.
And of course it would be Bengallman. You started this now lets end this here. What the fuck you think your coaching?? A fucking 18 year old? Grow up and keep your advise to yourself. We simply don't need your HORSESHIT. I put out a true report and you and your triple covered dick had to shoot your mouth off. Mongers like you give us a bad rap. I hope every monger on here starts barebacking safely of course. Have fun out there Lenny6746 over and out. Bareback of course.
[QUOTE=BengalMan;4097489]Amon swam in these waters for a few years. 😳128541;.[/QUOTE]I wonder what old Amon is doing these days, his posts were always interesting to read. Come back Amon. Play safe.