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[QUOTE=YellowJacket;4414878][URL]https://fox17.com/news/local/undercover-human-trafficking-investigation-nets-4-arrests-in-tennessee[/URL][/QUOTE]Got more out of the weather report at the top of the news story than I did the actual news story.

[URL]https://reason.com/2019/08/26/secret-memos-show-the-government-has-been-lying-about-backpage/[/URL]

I wonder if he is a member of the board. LOL.

REALTOR PUBLISHES PHOTO OF HIM ENGAGED IN SEX ACT IN LISTING FOR NASHVILLE HOME. [URL]https://www.scoopnashville.com/2019/08/realtor-publishes-photo-of-him-engaged-in-sex-act-in-listing-for-nashville-home/[/URL].

So with all our favorite massage places closed, where is everyone going?

They are now looking at Eros and erotic monkey. Check out the wsj article today.

I really wanted a nice massage. Has anyone checked these out? Trying to be as safe as possible!

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

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[QUOTE=Kormin;4464828]I really wanted a nice massage. Has anyone checked these out? Trying to be as safe as possible!

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

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[URL]https://bowling-green.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/tender-erotic-sensual-massage/973638779157[/URL][/QUOTE]The first one bad reviews.

The second one is Hanna and I have seen several times, hosts out of her residence you will be happy.

Sex sting in Rutherford County.

[URL]https://www.wgnsradio.com/tbi-two-day-operation-arrests16-men-on-seeking-sex-cms-54104[/URL]

[QUOTE=DavidCrockett;4511771]Sex sting in Rutherford County.

[URL]https://www.wgnsradio.com/tbi-two-day-operation-arrests16-men-on-seeking-sex-cms-54104[/URL][/QUOTE]". Has resulted in the arrests of 16 men accused of seeking illicit sex from minors".

Yeah, not feeling sorry for these guys at all.

[QUOTE=TheRocketeer;4512680]". Has resulted in the arrests of 16 men accused of seeking illicit sex from minors".

Yeah, not feeling sorry for these guys at all.[/QUOTE]I 2nd that.

[QUOTE=TheRocketeer;4512680]". Has resulted in the arrests of 16 men accused of seeking illicit sex from minors".

Yeah, not feeling sorry for these guys at all.[/QUOTE]If these guys really were looking for sex with children, then I agree totally that they're scum and deserve what they'll get. But that takes a lot on faith. These "demand reduction operations" by LE aren't supposed to produce trials and convictions but to publicize names and ruin lives as a deterrent to others. Imagine you're just a standard monger answering the wrong ad, and then LE publishes your name and says you were looking for kids. How would you deny it? I'm not saying that happened in this case, but I also don't think you can just believe that the cops only tell the truth when they use bad publicity to do the work of gathering evidence and presenting it at trial. If you take another look at those mugshots and think that maybe all these guys did was try to get laid for money, but got busted by cops who figured accusing them of pedophilia was easier than taking them to trial, you'll see what a nightmare that would be. The story just says that the purpose of the operation as a whole was to "identify individuals seeking to engage in commercial sex with minors," but you notice that none of the individual charges listed mentions minors, just "trafficking a person for a commercial sex act." Just sayin'.

Bottom line, LE is never your friend. Stay safe out there.

[QUOTE=SecretTheLover;4513306]If these guys really were looking for sex with children, then I agree totally that they're scum and deserve what they'll get. But that takes a lot on faith. These "demand reduction operations" by LE aren't supposed to produce trials and convictions but to publicize names and ruin lives as a deterrent to others. Imagine you're just a standard monger answering the wrong ad, and then LE publishes your name and says you were looking for kids. How would you deny it? I'm not saying that happened in this case, but I also don't think you can just believe that the cops only tell the truth when they use bad publicity to do the work of gathering evidence and presenting it at trial. If you take another look at those mugshots and think that maybe all these guys did was try to get laid for money, but got busted by cops who figured accusing them of pedophilia was easier than taking them to trial, you'll see what a nightmare that would be. The story just says that the purpose of the operation as a whole was to "identify individuals seeking to engage in commercial sex with minors," but you notice that none of the individual charges listed mentions minors, just "trafficking a person for a commercial sex act." Just sayin'.

Bottom line, LE is never your friend. Stay safe out there.[/QUOTE]When communicating with a potential dream, if the ad looks suspicious, if the "girl" mentions she is 17, if she says I'm really young or any of the above. Just don't pull the trigger. Don't use your personal phone. Get a burner phone.

I agree that if these guys were actually told, "hey I'm only 16 is that OK? And they headed on over to do the deed, then they had it coming, pardon my pun.

YJ.

[QUOTE=SecretTheLover;4513306]If these guys really were looking for sex with children, then I agree totally that they're scum and deserve what they'll get. But that takes a lot on faith. These "demand reduction operations" by LE aren't supposed to produce trials and convictions but to publicize names and ruin lives as a deterrent to others. Imagine you're just a standard monger answering the wrong ad, and then LE publishes your name and says you were looking for kids. How would you deny it? I'm not saying that happened in this case, but I also don't think you can just believe that the cops only tell the truth when they use bad publicity to do the work of gathering evidence and presenting it at trial. If you take another look at those mugshots and think that maybe all these guys did was try to get laid for money, but got busted by cops who figured accusing them of pedophilia was easier than taking them to trial, you'll see what a nightmare that would be. The story just says that the purpose of the operation as a whole was to "identify individuals seeking to engage in commercial sex with minors," but you notice that none of the individual charges listed mentions minors, just "trafficking a person for a commercial sex act." Just sayin'.

Bottom line, LE is never your friend. Stay safe out there.[/QUOTE]If you are truly not guilty of trying to have sex with a child then it shouldn't be a problem to plead not guilty go to trial be found innocent of the charges and then sue for damages that's how you deny it. They had to have had something in the ad that made the subject a minor. If not the damages will be huge. Because yes those men's lives are ruined.

[QUOTE=YellowJacket;4513422]When communicating with a potential dream, if the ad looks suspicious, if the "girl" mentions she is 17, if she says I'm really young or any of the above. Just don't pull the trigger. Don't use your personal phone. Get a burner phone.

I agree that if these guys were actually told, "hey I'm only 16 is that OK? And they headed on over to do the deed, then they had it coming, pardon my pun.

YJ.[/QUOTE]I'm not questioning any of this. If the cops were really posing as kids and these guys bit, then down they should go. If I heard a girl say she was underage I wouldn't go for it, and not because it's probably a sting (though it probably is) but because I don't fuck underage girls. And I don't like people who do or would. So we're in agreement there. My point is that these cases are almost certainly not going to trial but will be pled out as much less serious charges because the main point of the operation is to get these guys' names and pictures in the paper with the charge "pedophile" attached to them. By the time any actual trial takes place, it won't be in the paper. The cops have no compunction charging you with soliciting kids, whatever the evidence, because it's just leverage for a plea bargain. And if you read down the story, these guys were all charged with "trafficking a person for a commercial sex act," which isn't sex with kids but (just) sex for money. So the cops told the radio station they were looking for pedophiles and caught sixteen mongers, and the radio station said they caught sixteen pedophiles, because that's a better story, even though the cops didn't actually say that, just that they caught sixteen mongers and were looking for pedophiles. None of us wants to see kids exploited, or women involuntarily trafficked, and that's why the cops use those boogeymen to attack mongering in general, which in my experience has always been two or more adults agreeing (usually for different reasons) to fuck each other for cash.

[QUOTE=IslandGuy1999;4513439]If you are truly not guilty of trying to have sex with a child then it shouldn't be a problem to plead not guilty go to trial be found innocent of the charges and then sue for damages that's how you deny it. They had to have had something in the ad that made the subject a minor. If not the damages will be huge. Because yes those men's lives are ruined.[/QUOTE]They didn't have to have something in the ad that indicated the girl was underage because they know by the time it would come to trial the charges will have been pled down considerably. The pedophilia charge is just leverage. If you think you could win damages against LE or the media for libel because they charged you with pedophilia (or even, like here, just implied it) when you were in fact guilty of soliciting a prostitute, well, good luck with that.

Besides, in this case, the police told the radio station two things: 1) they were looking for pedophiles; 2) they caught 16 guys. It was the radio station that concluded they caught 16 pedophiles. But if you look at the actual charges listed, these guys haven't been charged with anything but "trafficking a person for a commercial sex act," which is what every one of us on this board is technically guilty of, not soliciting sex from a minor or anything like that.

It's ok with me if you want to trust the police to play fairly; it's you who'll be surprised when the hammer falls. I'm just trying to give you a heads up. But believe whatever you want! I still hope you stay safe!

[QUOTE=SecretTheLover;4514485]They didn't have to have something in the ad that indicated the girl was underage because they know by the time it would come to trial the charges will have been pled down considerably. The pedophilia charge is just leverage. If you think you could win damages against LE or the media for libel because they charged you with pedophilia (or even, like here, just implied it) when you were in fact guilty of soliciting a prostitute, well, good luck with that.

Besides, in this case, the police told the radio station two things: 1) they were looking for pedophiles; 2) they caught 16 guys. It was the radio station that concluded they caught 16 pedophiles. But if you look at the actual charges listed, these guys haven't been charged with anything but "trafficking a person for a commercial sex act," which is what every one of us on this board is technically guilty of, not soliciting sex from a minor or anything like that.

It's ok with me if you want to trust the police to play fairly; it's you who'll be surprised when the hammer falls. I'm just trying to give you a heads up. But believe whatever you want! I still hope you stay safe![/QUOTE]The guy in the middle row of pics to the left in the black T-shirt is a retired pro basketball player and a country singer wannabe.

[QUOTE=DavidCrockett;4511771]Sex sting in Rutherford County.

[URL]https://www.wgnsradio.com/tbi-two-day-operation-arrests16-men-on-seeking-sex-cms-54104[/URL][/QUOTE]A warning was posted on another site when one of the members contacted the ad. The girl told him she was only 16 and asked him to bring alcohol. He told her he was not interested and posted a warning for others to see. If it went the same way with all the ones busted, and I feel strongly that it did, then they deserve everything coming their way. Let them rot.

[QUOTE=RickForFun1;4516321]A warning was posted on another site when one of the members contacted the ad. The girl told him she was only 16 and asked him to bring alcohol. He told her he was not interested and posted a warning for others to see. If it went the same way with all the ones busted, and I feel strongly that it did, then they deserve everything coming their way. Let them rot.[/QUOTE]I had the same thing happen to me a few years ago on a BP add, the person on the other end of the text told me they was 16, of course I declined and told them it was unsafe for them and I was reporting the add, I had a gut feeling it was LE and sure enough some guys got busted. Men that want under age girls is what makes this hobby more difficult for the rest of us. I agree they deserve what is coming to them if they knew, and most likely they did, that is the way LE set the hook in them.

[QUOTE=SnoBallGuy;4514805]The guy in the middle row of pics to the left in the black T-shirt is a retired pro basketball player and a country singer wannabe.[/QUOTE]They plastered his 'booking' pic on TV channel 4, a couple nights ago. Prolly won't get that gig on a major label he was hoping for.

She is from Clarksville Tennessee.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP_0ig0TJx8[/URL]

The guy admitted to going to meet a pro. Be careful out there, LE in Hermitage will surely be more aware and on the lookout: [URL]https://www.wkrn.com/news/three-arrested-after-trying-to-rob-a-man-in-hermitage/[/URL].

[QUOTE=BillyBarue;4528653]The guy admitted to going to meet a pro. Be careful out there, LE in Hermitage will surely be more aware and on the lookout: [URL]https://www.wkrn.com/news/three-arrested-after-trying-to-rob-a-man-in-hermitage/[/URL].[/QUOTE]-The guy arrived at the hotel room, and there were multiple men and women in the room.

-Hang out with them for an hour.

-Hopped in a car with these strangers to supposedly go and get beer.

-Then, surprise, got a gun pulled on him and taken to an ATM.

So many red flags there, you'd think the commies are invading. If there's even one more person than you expect in the room, that's when you bounce out.

[QUOTE=TheRocketeer;4531123]-The guy arrived at the hotel room, and there were multiple men and women in the room.

-Hang out with them for an hour.

-Hopped in a car with these strangers to supposedly go and get beer.

-Then, surprise, got a gun pulled on him and taken to an ATM.

So many red flags there, you'd think the commies are invading. If there's even one more person than you expect in the room, that's when you bounce out.[/QUOTE]Last week I went to visit a mature lady, that has been in the business for a while, I haven't ever seen her but she has been around. As soon as I walk into the room she wants to do LE check, then she ask for donation, I haven't been in the room 20 seconds yet, 2 red flags, instead of giving her the donation I ask to use the bathroom that the door is shut on. She said oh you want to go in the bathroom. I walked in the bathroom and I could see a dark shadow standing behind the shower curtain, LOL. I walked to the door and told her I was leaving, someone is in the shower, she said no there isn't. I left better to be safe than sorry. I don't know if it was a man or woman, but the fact that they was trying to hide made me uncomfortable. I have on a few occasions saw a provider with her roommate hanging out in the bathroom, or even like the original Anna that is being discussed, her boyfriend is always there, he doesn't try to hide and talks to me, he looks rough and I think she would be way better with out him but he has never caused any issues. You just have to use common sense to protect yourself. She may be great and if someone on here has seen her and knows she is good to go, let us know, I just had to go with my gut feeling.

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I have no interest in this option of it does up here.

[QUOTE=BallsDeep1;4531353]Last week I went to visit a mature lady, that has been in the business for a while, I haven't ever seen her but she has been around. As soon as I walk into the room she wants to do LE check, then she ask for donation, I haven't been in the room 20 seconds yet, 2 red flags, instead of giving her the donation I ask to use the bathroom that the door is shut on. She said oh you want to go in the bathroom. I walked in the bathroom and I could see a dark shadow standing behind the shower curtain, LOL. I walked to the door and told her I was leaving, someone is in the shower, she said no there isn't. I left better to be safe than sorry. I don't know if it was a man or woman, but the fact that they was trying to hide made me uncomfortable. I have on a few occasions saw a provider with her roommate hanging out in the bathroom, or even like the original Anna that is being discussed, her boyfriend is always there, he doesn't try to hide and talks to me, he looks rough and I think she would be way better with out him but he has never caused any issues. You just have to use common sense to protect yourself. She may be great and if someone on here has seen her and knows she is good to go, let us know, I just had to go with my gut feeling.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/38915547/6154361660[/URL][/QUOTE]This is why I only see ladies who do outcall. I'm not big on surprises or confrontations.

[QUOTE=AbeNormal;4533877]This is why I only see ladies who do outcall. I'm not big on surprises or confrontations.[/QUOTE]Me too. It cost a little more, but I think it's a better experience.

[QUOTE=Tntitans213;4534466]Me too. It cost a little more, but I think it's a better experience.[/QUOTE]I prefer outcalls also.

My feelings.

If it a provider that I know and trust. Like years or several visits are in the past, I don't mind an in call.

But if it is someone new, it is always outcall. You are in control of the whole situation. BTW, always go with your gut feelings.

It's the season. [URL]https://fox17.com/news/local/victim-and-3-suspects-arrested-after-solicitation-leads-to-robbery-1-suspect-at-large[/URL]

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[QUOTE=ChuckNdHowz;4570262]It's the season. [URL]https://fox17.com/news/local/victim-and-3-suspects-arrested-after-solicitation-leads-to-robbery-1-suspect-at-large[/URL][/QUOTE]

She's sure to be caught by the looks of her. Hell, Ray Charles could spot that face tat. [URL]https://www.wkrn.com/news/crime-tracker/police-woman-poses-as-prostitute-robs-man-at-hendersonville-motel/[/URL].

[QUOTE=BillyBarue;4571214]She's sure to be caught by the looks of her. Hell, Ray Charles could spot that face tat. [URL]https://www.wkrn.com/news/crime-tracker/police-woman-poses-as-prostitute-robs-man-at-hendersonville-motel/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Why would anyone want to see her to begin with.

[QUOTE=ChuckNdHowz;4570262]It's the season. [URL]https://fox17.com/news/local/victim-and-3-suspects-arrested-after-solicitation-leads-to-robbery-1-suspect-at-large[/URL][/QUOTE]The victim of the robbery was not too smart. After the robbery he (presumably) calls the cops and ten tells them I was going to solicit sex and then. Kind of like calling the cops saying I got robbed as I was trying to buy some dope.

This is going to' be a big deal .

The short story is Michigan will intact legislation to make Hotels responsible if there is.

Prostitution on their property. The state will force the hotels to train employees to.

"look" for signs of prostitution (and maybe reward them as "whistle blowers") .

Other states will follow promptly.

[URL]https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/12/21/sex-trafficking-lawsuit-hotel-chains-michigan-intercontinental-marriott/4405925002/[/URL]

[QUOTE=WhiteHorse77;4597193]This is going to' be a big deal .

The short story is Michigan will intact legislation to make Hotels responsible if there is.

Prostitution on their property. The state will force the hotels to train employees to.

"look" for signs of prostitution (and maybe reward them as "whistle blowers") .

Other states will follow promptly.


[URL]https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/12/21/sex-trafficking-lawsuit-hotel-chains-michigan-intercontinental-marriott/4405925002/[/URL][/QUOTE]A lot of chains, like Marriott, already do this. What would be new is if they try to enforce this on the low end of hotel the market.

[QUOTE=MacJayii;4597781]A lot of chains, like Marriott, already do this. What would be new is if they try to enforce this on the low end of hotel the market.[/QUOTE]Exactly! A lot of the low end hotels and notels are independently owned and the owners are familiar with the providers. Several providers have told me the owners know what they do. One traveling provider told me she paid a little extra fee, for the promise that LEO would not bother her.

Damn. And I loved Detroit because it was such a great city for the hobby. Even used one of those hourly hotels with the mirrors all over to hook up with a girl that had moved from Nashville.

[QUOTE=RustyKuntz;4598646]Exactly! A lot of the low end hotels and notels are independently owned and the owners are familiar with the providers. Several providers have told me the owners know what they do. One traveling provider told me she paid a little extra fee, for the promise that LEO would not bother her.[/QUOTE]Enforcement on the low end of the market will be difficult. And if they are paying an extra fee, those wouldn't give up easy extra off the books money. Hotel business is not a high margin business.

[QUOTE=MacJayii;4597781]A lot of chains, like Marriott, already do this. What would be new is if they try to enforce this on the low end of hotel the market.[/QUOTE]Did you actually take time to read the article? If you did, you'd see that ALL national Hotel chains, including Motel 6 , Red, Roof, etc (which all belong to the American Hotel and Lodging Asoc) are participating in this "National Campaign" Here's the key quote from the article:

"In June, the American Hotel & Lodging Association announced a national campaign "to unite the industry around a single, comprehensive approach to fight trafficking. ".

As part of the effort, the group and its member companies have trained more than a million employees around the world, and more is expected to coincide with National Human Trafficking Awareness Month in January, president and CEO Chip Rogers said in a statement Friday. ".

[QUOTE=WhiteHorse77;4599963]Did you actually take time to read the article? If you did, you'd see that ALL national Hotel chains, including Motel 6 , Red, Roof, etc (which all belong to the American Hotel and Lodging Asoc) are participating in this "National Campaign" Here's the key quote from the article:

"In June, the American Hotel & Lodging Association announced a national campaign "to unite the industry around a single, comprehensive approach to fight trafficking. ".

As part of the effort, the group and its member companies have trained more than a million employees around the world, and more is expected to coincide with National Human Trafficking Awareness Month in January, president and CEO Chip Rogers said in a statement Friday. ".[/QUOTE]I think by "low end" they meant non-chain hotels and motels.