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[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2726171]Ah yes another fun loving asian princess. NOT. LOL.
That kind of haggling leads to just finish the massage, fork over a water, and I'm out the door.
The recommendation from me would be YUN or Exercise spa in that area.[/QUOTE]I thought Exercise was more of a cautious kind? Do they have as wide a menu as Yun?
Yes. I was referring to the good attitude for exercise. Should have been more clear on this.
[QUOTE=HeadFirst80;2726727]I thought Exercise was more of a cautious kind? Do they have as wide a menu as Yun?[/QUOTE]
Hi there. Been lurking awhile and wanted to first say thanks for the information. Definitely helps someone new at the game to get a general lay of the land before doing something stupid or wasting a ton of money.
Been to a few AMPs, and I wanted to contribute a report for Yun from about 2 weeks back. This wasn't my first visit there, but I don't drop by frequently enough for anyone to know who I am. My provider was Mona (I think) - not a great looking woman but had a nice rack and pretty friendly. TS was thorough and featured the appropriate level of teasing. The massage was a solid be+, hot towels and all. On the flip, she had draped me with a towel, which I took it upon myself to let drop to the side when she went to get massage oils. All of a sudden, she got really shy and seemingly embarrassed. I thought that maybe I had misread the signals or had done something out of protocol, but then she grabbed my hand and led me down to the area of needed service, and I gave her a nod and she was off. I wouldn't exactly call it sensual though. Pretty sure that if she hadn't gotten rubbing oils, she would have started a fire.
Anyway. Solid massage, standard finish, standard tip with no haggling that she seemed happy with. Didn't get my water though, but I didn't remember to ask until I was out the door, but I wasn't there for refreshments anyway.
Well, it's been a year since I've been to Jun. So I can't attest to their current practice. Also, at some places the extras are left to the discretion of the woman. Think group "a": No extras unless you are really really lucky. Heavenly massage chain is in group A. (I've gotten extras, but the woman asked me to come to her house. Not the store.) Group "B": Extras for sure. Like Yun or Lux. If you fail to get extras there, its because you came in wearing a police uniform. Group "C". Maybe, in your case Jun. But, like I said, at Group "C", the management allows girls to provide extras if they like the guy. Or know the guy, etc. But, for your part, the key is they do not force the girl to do anything particular. If you show up, nervous or asking too many questions, you might give off a vibe that will get you shut down. Be mellow, not pushy or rushed. Leave the towel off. Offer to massage the girl after a few minutes. Make return visits to the same girl. It's a skill you can develop over time. Bob.
[QUOTE=BigWaffle;2726689]Long time lurker, first time poster. I've only made a few visits to AMPs so far, but here are my experiences:
Jun's Spa. Tried it once. Legit massage place as far as I can tell. No extras. Maybe you need to make multiple visits to establish trust.
Yun. Had Sarah and Coffee. Not bad, not great.
Sky 1 - Had Ci-ci and May. Cici was pretty good, May was terrible though. Would not recommend her.
I think with Yun and Sky1 you guys already know what's up, you don't need my limited experience to help. But Jun's is interesting. I remember reading that Bob had gotten extras from there.[/QUOTE]
Big waffle. Thanks for the report. Easy reading, nice summary.
SKY1 - I had Cici. Cool lady, no tipping issues. Average rub for me,played a nice tune but not good enough to go back.
YUN. Had Coffee. Nice lady but was not the happiest person. Very good massage. Played a nice tune, went back.
Never been to JUN.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2727079]Well, it's been a year since I've been to Jun. So I can't attest to their current practice. Also, at some places the extras are left to the discretion of the woman. Think group "a": No extras unless you are really really lucky. Heavenly massage chain is in group A. (I've gotten extras, but the woman asked me to come to her house. Not the store.) Group "B": Extras for sure. Like Yun or Lux. If you fail to get extras there, its because you came in wearing a police uniform. Group "C". Maybe, in your case Jun. But, like I said, at Group "C", the management allows girls to provide extras if they like the guy. Or know the guy, etc. But, for your part, the key is they do not force the girl to do anything particular. If you show up, nervous or asking too many questions, you might give off a vibe that will get you shut down. Be mellow, not pushy or rushed. Leave the towel off. Offer to massage the girl after a few minutes. Make return visits to the same girl. It's a skill you can develop over time. Bob.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigWaffle;2726689]Long time lurker, first time poster. I've only made a few visits to AMPs so far, but here are my experiences:
Jun's Spa. Tried it once. Legit massage place as far as I can tell. No extras. Maybe you need to make multiple visits to establish trust.
Yun. Had Sarah and Coffee. Not bad, not great.
Sky 1 - Had Ci-ci and May. Cici was pretty good, May was terrible though. Would not recommend her.
I think with Yun and Sky1 you guys already know what's up, you don't need my limited experience to help. But Jun's is interesting. I remember reading that Bob had gotten extras from there.[/QUOTE]
Great summarization, Bob. Now, when you offer to massage the girl do you specifically ask her to also get her off her clothes or she does it voluntarily? When she doesn't get naked do you simply massage her with her clothes on? I've had mixed results with this approach and have always wondered if there was a certain technique that would fetch better results.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2727079]Be mellow, not pushy or rushed. Leave the towel off. Offer to massage the girl after a few minutes. Make return visits to the same girl. It's a skill you can develop over time. Bob.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2727888]Great summarization, Bob. Now, when you offer to massage the girl do you specifically ask her to also get her off her clothes or she does it voluntarily? When she doesn't get naked do you simply massage her with her clothes on? I had mixed results with this approach and have always wondered if there was a certain technique that would fetch better results.[/QUOTE]If this is the first time, I start slowly. Shoes off. Do the feet to relax her. Ask if they want oil. (They never want oil) so go over the clothes. Firm strong pressure. Not rubbing. She's face down. Raise her shirt a little to get hands on bare back. Raising it a little at a time. Finally ask "may I" to remove her shirt. On the bottom. Gave a great ass rub. Slowly work your hands on her bare butt. Slid her pants down. At each stage confirm. Keep in mind most want clothes partially on in case they have to jump up quickly.
Now if thw woman is experienced or horny she'll know the drill and take off her clothes. 100% of the girls I met a Lux took their clothes off immediately. At Jun spa last year each massage "got better" until the third time when we did full nude DATY. Bob.
Bob is spot on. I start with the clothes on. If she likes what you are doing she will take her top off. I always ask to unsnap her bra for more coverage on her back. While working her lower back and butt I slowly move the pants down a little. If she raises up her hips then I know it is ok to slide the pants down. Always leaving the undies on until later in the massage.
I'm impressed as to how meticulously you work your way up (or down?) You are a master craftsman. I bow to you.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2728031]If this is the first time, I start slowly. Shoes off. Do the feet to relax her. Ask if they want oil. (They never want oil) so go over the clothes. Firm strong pressure. Not rubbing. She's face down. Raise her shirt a little to get hands on bare back. Raising it a little at a time. Finally ask "may I" to remove her shirt. On the bottom. Gave a great ass rub. Slowly work your hands on her bare butt. Slid her pants down. At each stage confirm. Keep in mind most want clothes partially on in case they have to jump up quickly.
Now if thw woman is experienced or horny she'll know the drill and take off her clothes. 100% of the girls I met a Lux took their clothes off immediately. At Jun spa last year each massage "got better" until the third time when we did full nude DATY. Bob.[/QUOTE]
Took the trip and I'm very glad I did. Attractive older ladies here. I was greeted by an old friend ( one of the best in the business ) at the door, showed me to the room and sent in another lady. The TS and the massage were outstanding.
The pricing is normal and there was no tip haggling. Both ladies were in good holiday spirits, laughing and joking and it was a nice change of pace.
2 thumbs up from me.
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2730862]Took the trip and I'm very glad I did. Attractive older ladies here. I was greeted by an old friend ( one of the best in the business ) at the door, showed me to the room and sent in another lady. The TS and the massage were outstanding.
The pricing is normal and there was no tip haggling. Both ladies were in good holiday spirits, laughing and joking and it was a nice change of pace.
2 thumbs up from me.[/QUOTE]I second that. The experience for me was very similar. Ladies may not be "Freshest meat" in the market but sure are willing!
She started the massage deep tissue in the TS and got many cracks out, then in the room one of the best back walks I've had. These are the places I will gladly give my business.
[QUOTE=HeadFirst80;2731443]I second that. The experience for me was very similar. Ladies may not be "Freshest meat" in the market but sure are willing![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2730862]Took the trip and I'm very glad I did. Attractive older ladies here. I was greeted by an old friend ( one of the best in the business ) at the door, showed me to the room and sent in another lady. The TS and the massage were outstanding.
The pricing is normal and there was no tip haggling. Both ladies were in good holiday spirits, laughing and joking and it was a nice change of pace.
2 thumbs up from me.[/QUOTE]Please pm me who the old friend is? Is it who used to be at GQ?
No, this one was never in this area.
[QUOTE=Mmaforever;2731868]Please pm me who the old friend is? Is it who used to be at GQ?[/QUOTE]
Been to both of these recently here's a little review of the recent service:
LUX: Friendly Mamasan for the past few months. Older women, but always guaranteed service. Sometimes a haggle. If you can get Ruby, she's a little older, but gives a GREAT experience. 1/2 hr rate higher than Sky.
SKyY: Different Mamasan everytime I've been. Girls do the usual LEO check. Everything on the menu on 1st visit. Better looking, younger girls. Always a haggle on the finish which I do not like.
[QUOTE=JohnBill1232;2734155]Been to both of these recently here's a little review of the recent service:
LUX: Friendly Mamasan for the past few months. Older women, but always guaranteed service. Sometimes a haggle. If you can get Ruby, she's a little older, but gives a GREAT experience. 1/2 hr rate higher than Sky.
SKyY: Different Mamasan everytime I've been. Girls do the usual LEO check. Everything on the menu on 1st visit. Better looking, younger girls. Always a haggle on the finish which I do not like.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the post. For what it's worth, I agree with the assessment of Lux vs Sky 1. Never left Lux feeling rushed or that value wasn't there. I can't say that about Sky 1. Sometimes you can tell they just want you out the door. Lux tends to at least act like they appreciate you being there and they seem to go the extra mile.
I had the itch so I went to Yun about a week ago. Mamasan puts me in the first little room almost a closet. She says everyone is busy. She says 15 minutes. Then 20 or 30 minutes. I could not wait. So I go and try New Life. I have heard good and bad so I figured what the heck. The place was empty from what I could tell. I took that as a bad sign. I am greeted by a decent looking woman. I pay, go to the sauna, then to the table shower. No rushing which was nice. I got a great table shower but not to much attention to my boys. Just a little. Back in the room and she gave me a great massage. No teasing at all but I tried to gently brush her leg here and there. After a really nice massage it was time for the flip. No negotiation and I left happy. If Yun is busy or if I want a good massage I will try this place again.
[QUOTE=JohnBill1232;2734155]Been to both of these recently here's a little review of the recent service:
LUX: Friendly Mamasan for the past few months. Older women, but always guaranteed service. Sometimes a haggle. If you can get Ruby, she's a little older, but gives a GREAT experience. 1/2 hr rate higher than Sky.
SKyY: Different Mamasan everytime I've been. Girls do the usual LEO check. Everything on the menu on 1st visit. Better looking, younger girls. Always a haggle on the finish which I do not like.[/QUOTE]Is Ruby back at Lux? She's awesome!
New Life is not bad. I always get the same nice lady who I've known for a while.
Her back walk is very good and she is very accommodating.
[QUOTE=JoeD999;2734804]I had the itch so I went to Yun about a week ago. Mamasan puts me in the first little room almost a closet. She says everyone is busy. She says 15 minutes. Then 20 or 30 minutes. I could not wait. So I go and try New Life. I have heard good and bad so I figured what the heck. The place was empty from what I could tell. I took that as a bad sign. I am greeted by a decent looking woman. I pay, go to the sauna, then to the table shower. No rushing which was nice. I got a great table shower but not to much attention to my boys. Just a little. Back in the room and she gave me a great massage. No teasing at all but I tried to gently brush her leg here and there. After a really nice massage it was time for the flip. No negotiation and I left happy. If Yun is busy or if I want a good massage I will try this place again.[/QUOTE]
I have to meet this Ruby. LOL.
I've been here three times and it was not bad. I like the MMS.
[QUOTE=BillR;2734943]Is Ruby back at Lux? She's awesome![/QUOTE]
I had a nice time with Cici at SKY. But it was very business like. Need a little charm school here.
[QUOTE=GMan25;2734651]Thanks for the post. For what it's worth, I agree with the assessment of Lux vs Sky 1. Never left Lux feeling rushed or that value wasn't there. I can't say that about Sky 1. Sometimes you can tell they just want you out the door. Lux tends to at least act like they appreciate you being there and they seem to go the extra mile.[/QUOTE]
Anyone know if Natalie is still at golden hands? Any new girls there? Still limited menu? Pm me if you want.
I visited a local AMP that I have been to several times before. Usual TS, Sauna and back to the room for the massage. The last couple of times I was there, it got better every time. The massages got better, conversation got more personal; ie: lives, work, history etc. Laughter, joking around, teasing, serious kissing and even the finishes got better. This past Saturday was no exception. Started as usual, but this time I asked her if she wanted a massage. She immediately took off her clothes, and laid face down on the table. I started the massage and ended with some pussy play that led to FIV and DATY. Then she surprises me and says she wants to "come on me". I of course said yes, she grabs a cover and she puts it on with her her mouth, and continues sucking on me while I finger her, and she is getting wetter and wetter. She mounts me and we hump like bunnies until she lets out a yell and comes hard, soaking my cock and the table. I commented on her wetness and she says that's what happens when I come, and your massage got me very horny. She gets off of me, pulls off the cover and takes my cock in her mouth and proceeds to suck me dry. This was one of the absolute best AMP experiences ever, almost felt like she was my girlfriend. She says she can't wait for the next time I visit, that she is going to surprise me. I must admit, I can't either. Thanks Bob521 for the suggestion of asking if she would like a massage.
You did actually make a Big Sale narrating your FR at a local AMP. Now if you will lay clues as to the AMP / provider it'll be helpful to this community as well as add credibility to your report. Thanks.
[QUOTE=BigSales59;2735474]I visited a local AMP that I have been to several times before. Usual TS, Sauna and back to the room for the massage. The last couple of times I was there, it got better every time. The massages got better, conversation got more personal; ie: lives, work, history etc. Laughter, joking around, teasing, serious kissing and even the finishes got better. This past Saturday was no exception. Started as usual, but this time I asked her if she wanted a massage. She immediately took off her clothes, and laid face down on the table. I started the massage and ended with some pussy play that led to FIV and DATY. Then she surprises me and says she wants to "come on me". I of course said yes, she grabs a cover and she puts it on with her her mouth, and continues sucking on me while I finger her, and she is getting wetter and wetter. She mounts me and we hump like bunnies until she lets out a yell and comes hard, soaking my cock and the table. I commented on her wetness and she says that's what happens when I come, and your massage got me very horny. She gets off of me, pulls off the cover and takes my cock in her mouth and proceeds to suck me dry. This was one of the absolute best AMP experiences ever, almost felt like she was my girlfriend. She says she can't wait for the next time I visit, that she is going to surprise me. I must admit, I can't either. Thanks Bob521 for the suggestion of asking if she would like a massage.[/QUOTE]
FYI sky is closed til January 2 for roof repairs.
I went to Yun yesterday. I have been there many times. Yesterday was my least enjoyable visit. MT has a large scar on her chest. Table shower was good, message was interrupted several times and cut short by 20+ minutes. She acknowledged my time was cut short because they were busy.
[QUOTE=BigWaffle;2735333]Anyone know if Natalie is still at golden hands? Any new girls there? Still limited menu? Pm me if you want.[/QUOTE]As far as I know, Natalie is still there (as of early December at least). I go there a fair bit and Leah is actually one of my all time favorites, but its always been limited menu.
I strayed from my usual Lux because I heard that an MT there fits the description of a long lost favorite older girl. I went in with very low expectations, and planned to hit a more well established place if I wasn't happy there. My long lost wasn't there today but I drew a beautiful 20 something instead. They didn't try to stick me into that closet dry sauna, and I might have been shorted on time but that's not why I go to these places. My mt named Yumi was hot, funny and a pleasure to be around. She was busty and had the perfect amount of baby fat. I did not need to go to a more established place when I left. Very highly recommended. Use the back door labeled "spa".
[QUOTE=NuruLover;2746041]I strayed from my usual Lux because I heard that an MT there ...[/QUOTE]By "there" I meant M2.
I finally made it over to gh for the first time. I walked in without calling ahead. I asked if Natalie was available and she was, so I got a half-hour massage. To make a long story short, I don't plan on seeing her again. We made some decent small-talk, but she has an assembly line vibe to me; get you in, get you out, take your money. I may go back to gh in the future, but I'll be looking for different therapists. The lady who greeted me at the desk looked a lot more pleasant and laid-back than Natalie. I didn't get her name though. Natalie has a pretty hot body, but I'd rather have an average cute girl with a sweet personality. Pm me if you want more details about my visit.
The new occupant of the busted Panacea Spa space is going to be a tough choice. The Plusses: attractive mamasan who gives a terrific TS, and a great-looking young spinner who gives a great sensual massage, with a body good enough to eat. The Minuses: Totally paranoid about the previous operators being shut down by Glenview PD; Jeans as the uniform; very limited roaming over jeans with a no breast touch policy. Promises of better things to come, but I don't know if the 65/ hr + 10 for the TS will be worth the multiple visits required. The attractiveness of the staff, and the quality of the massage will compete with any legit salon, but not being able to sample what could be available will be frustrating until things become routine.
I'd move on.
[QUOTE=ReadyForRub;2747651]The new occupant of the busted Panacea Spa space is going to be a tough choice. The Plusses: attractive mamasan who gives a terrific TS, and a great-looking young spinner who gives a great sensual massage, with a body good enough to eat. The Minuses: Totally paranoid about the previous operators being shut down by Glenview PD; Jeans as the uniform; very limited roaming over jeans with a no breast touch policy. Promises of better things to come, but I don't know if the 65/ hr + 10 for the TS will be worth the multiple visits required. The attractiveness of the staff, and the quality of the massage will compete with any legit salon, but not being able to sample what could be available will be frustrating until things become routine.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ReadyForRub;2747651]The new occupant of the busted Panacea Spa space is going to be a tough choice. The Plusses: attractive mamasan who gives a terrific TS, and a great-looking young spinner who gives a great sensual massage, with a body good enough to eat. The Minuses: Totally paranoid about the previous operators being shut down by Glenview PD; Jeans as the uniform; very limited roaming over jeans with a no breast touch policy. Promises of better things to come, but I don't know if the 65/ hr + 10 for the TS will be worth the multiple visits required. The attractiveness of the staff, and the quality of the massage will compete with any legit salon, but not being able to sample what could be available will be frustrating until things become routine.[/QUOTE]I was there last weekend, struck up a convo with the girl, and had a nice HE with roaming anywhere. Be friendly, not pushy, but persuasive. On my next visit, we plan to have tea together before the massage. (I think Bob521 would be proud of me.).
[QUOTE=Bebop60;2748862]I was there last weekend, struck up a convo with the girl, and had a nice HE with roaming anywhere. Be friendly, not pushy, but persuasive. On my next visit, we plan to have tea together before the massage. (I think Bob521 would be proud of me.).[/QUOTE]Two additional downsides are 3/4-height walls and fabric "doors". We shouldn't have to be looking for a relationship beyond the business transaction.
[QUOTE=ReadyForRub;2747651]The new occupant of the busted Panacea Spa space is going to be a tough choice. The Plusses: attractive mamasan who gives a terrific TS, and a great-looking young spinner who gives a great sensual massage, with a body good enough to eat. The Minuses: Totally paranoid about the previous operators being shut down by Glenview PD; Jeans as the uniform; very limited roaming over jeans with a no breast touch policy. Promises of better things to come, but I don't know if the 65/ hr + 10 for the TS will be worth the multiple visits required. The attractiveness of the staff, and the quality of the massage will compete with any legit salon, but not being able to sample what could be available will be frustrating until things become routine.[/QUOTE]That's what happened in Orange County, CA. They went from all access to no access jeans. If you think tights are bad just wait.
Yes, the no access jeans are a bone killer. I get a kick out of the shoes, then socks, then stockings / tights up to the waste, then a pleather skirt with a belt or the dreaded one piece.
[QUOTE=Rubenme2;2749006]That's what happened in Orange County, CA. They went from all access to no access jeans. If you think tights are bad just wait.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2749019]Yes, the no access jeans are a bone killer. I get a kick out of the shoes, then socks, then stockings / tights up to the waste, then a pleather skirt with a belt or the dreaded one piece.[/QUOTE]Coming next, the chastity belt. LOL.
I had had a few lackluster experiences in a row from other experiences, with either no extras or not the most attractive providers, so I decided to pay the premium to get a likely good looking girl and have a good time, so I stopped by the place behind the CVS. I drew Yumi, who was younger for the business, but right in line for Sky, with a pretty face, with a 9+ body for sure. The TS was good with all the right signals, followed by the sauna, then to the massage room. I have to say that Yumi's massage skills were excellent. I would give it a solid 8 in the massage department. On the flip, the expected negotiations occurred. I knew it would be $. 4, but tried for $. 2 to no avail (again, I knew I would pay the premium for the younger / prettier provider). The performance was good and enthusiastic. Had some time remaining and got a very good scalp massage to finish. Would certainly repeat with Yumi.
I've been to Sky three times in the past year, and my first and last sessions were great (with my first being the best session I've had at any AMP). The middle one was so-so, with a pretty bad massage but the provider was one of the most attractive girls I've seen in an AMP (but shorted me pretty badly on time). I will probably continue to repeat with Sky, especially to bounce back after a bad session or two.
Stay safe out there, gents.
The more guys cave in and give 140, the more they will expect it. It gives them the confidence that they can hold their ground in negotiations. 100 should be the going rate IMHO. Walk in with only 100 in your pocket and then you can't be upsold.
That's why its hard to go anywhere anymore.
[QUOTE=Joe6009;2753766]The more guys cave in and give 140, the more they will expect it. It gives them the confidence that they can hold their ground in negotiations. 100 should be the going rate IMHO. Walk in with only 100 in your pocket and then you can't be upsold.[/QUOTE]